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DumpJerry
10-01-2012, 02:34 PM
Heard it on The Score this morning. He will do it "as soon as possible."

So, the truth has come out. His wrist was never right after the "cleaning" it had earlier this season. We suspected this given the fall-off in his performance.

SephClone89
10-01-2012, 02:35 PM
May as well bench him now, or at least after today.

Lip Man 1
10-01-2012, 02:50 PM
To his credit he never used it as an excuse and honestly who knows how much it was a factor? Only PK I'm sure.

Lip

TomBradley72
10-01-2012, 03:03 PM
To his credit he never used it as an excuse and honestly who knows how much it was a factor? Only PK I'm sure.

Lip

His OPS dropped about 200 points after April/May (surgery timing)-

SI1020
10-01-2012, 05:56 PM
I'm not a doctor or a psychic but IMO Paul was playing hurt for a long time. He just couldn't drive the ball like he would have been able if healthy.

WLL1855
10-01-2012, 05:56 PM
To his credit he never used it as an excuse and honestly who knows how much it was a factor? Only PK I'm sure.

Lip

This is a testament to Konerko's professionalism. He didn't pull a JD Drew and sit out half the season. The guy felt he could play through it and gave it his best shot.

slavko
10-01-2012, 06:00 PM
What was his VORP when he was a singles hitter in the cleanup spot? Gutting it out in this case = hurting the team. But he didn't bat himself 4th or put his name on the lineup card every day, did he?

LoveYourSuit
10-01-2012, 06:21 PM
What was his VORP when he was a singles hitter in the cleanup spot? Gutting it out in this case = hurting the team. But he didn't bat himself 4th or put his name on the lineup card every day, did he?


Ventura ****ed this thing up so badly.

There was not reason for him to ride Dunn/Konerko 3 and 4 from start to finish if things werer broke.

Think of how many more games possibly they could have won had AJ hit 3rd and Rios 4th the entire 2nd half.

kobo
10-01-2012, 06:36 PM
Ventura ****ed this thing up so badly.

There was not reason for him to ride Dunn/Konerko 3 and 4 from start to finish if things werer broke.

Think of how many more games possibly they could have won had AJ hit 3rd and Rios 4th the entire 2nd half.
They possibly could have won the same, maybe even less. Seeing as how there is no replacement for Konerko I don't see how dropping him in the order would have really helped. He would be producing the same no matter where he was in the lineup. There's also no guarantee that moving AJ and Rios up would produce different/better results. But I guess it's going to be 'Blame Ventura' now for the woes of this team.

JB98
10-01-2012, 06:41 PM
They possibly could have won the same, maybe even less. Seeing as how there is no replacement for Konerko I don't see how dropping him in the order would have really helped. He would be producing the same no matter where he was in the lineup. There's also no guarantee that moving AJ and Rios up would produce different/better results. But I guess it's going to be 'Blame Ventura' now for the woes of this team.

Yeah, I can't blame Ventura for going with his main guys. He has no bench. This team just wasn't good enough or deep enough in the end.

Unless Rios would have been allowed to bat nine consecutive times, it would have been hard to construct a good lineup lately.

Lip Man 1
10-01-2012, 07:22 PM
JB:

I don't necessarily disagree with you but Dunn was hitting .200 killing opportunities and potential rallies. I don't see what was wrong with A.J. or Rios up there with a better average, getting maybe one more at bat a game, turning the lineup over etc.

It's all speculation now and maybe Robin learned something from it.

Lip

delben91
10-01-2012, 09:15 PM
Ventura ****ed this thing up so badly.

There was not reason for him to ride Dunn/Konerko 3 and 4 from start to finish if things werer broke.

Think of how many more games possibly they could have won had AJ hit 3rd and Rios 4th the entire 2nd half.

Fire Ventura!

VMSNS
10-01-2012, 10:26 PM
I had wrist surgery two months ago (had to have a screw put in to repair a fractured scaphoid that never healed), and it wasn't fun. I hope for a swift recovery for PK.

I guess we now have an explanation for the drop-off in his production.

LoveYourSuit
10-01-2012, 11:53 PM
They possibly could have won the same, maybe even less. Seeing as how there is no replacement for Konerko I don't see how dropping him in the order would have really helped. He would be producing the same no matter where he was in the lineup. There's also no guarantee that moving AJ and Rios up would produce different/better results. But I guess it's going to be 'Blame Ventura' now for the woes of this team.


Yes, if they were going to suck they were going to suck at any part of the order.

But I would rather the other two guys have gotten perhaps an extra AB every other night than the other two.

Foulke You
10-02-2012, 12:24 AM
Paulie also missed time with a bad back this year too. Konerko is getting up there in age now and I'm beginning to wonder if his body can handle the daily grind as a position starter. I wonder if the Sox would consider moving Paulie into the full time DH role next season? Dunn was competent at 1B this year and a DH switch could theoretically keep Paulie healthier and more offensively productive.

Nellie_Fox
10-02-2012, 12:29 AM
Dunn was competent at 1B this yearNo he wasn't.

BainesHOF
10-02-2012, 12:43 AM
It was obvious that Konerko was injured. At some point, he should not have been batting third. If you check his stats, you can make a strong case that he shouldn't have even been playing. Just about anyone would have produced more in the last three or so months. Dan Johnson was a real alternative, at least against righties.

doublem23
10-02-2012, 01:03 AM
No he wasn't.

I must admit I didn't think he was any better or worse than Konerko has been the last few years

WhiteSox5187
10-02-2012, 02:39 AM
I must admit I didn't think he was any better or worse than Konerko has been the last few years

He probably has about the same range as Konerko but he cannot handle balls in the dirt anywhere near as well as Konerko does. That being said, I think I saw him miss only two or three balls this year and I don't think any of them really came back to hurt the Sox.

Scottiehaswheels
10-02-2012, 03:05 AM
I wonder what the recovery time would be as we don't know the extent of the problem. Looking over Paul's #'s since June, makes you wonder what if, especially if it was/is 1-2 month DL trip. Might have been worth it since his June/July/August were pitiful.

SCCWS
10-02-2012, 06:46 AM
No he wasn't.


He made 1 error in 50 games ( 440 chances) at first. That is adequate.

SCCWS
10-02-2012, 06:58 AM
It was obvious that Konerko was injured. At some point, he should not have been batting third. If you check his stats, you can make a strong case that he shouldn't have even been playing. Just about anyone would have produced more in the last three or so months. Dan Johnson was a real alternative, at least against righties.

Post all Star game, the White Sox as a team hit .249. Paulie hit .263 during that stretch. Not sure who on that bench could have hit higher than .263 for the 3 months. Dan Johnson hit .267 in Charlotte so I doubt he would have hit better than an injured Paulie

Nellie_Fox
10-02-2012, 11:37 AM
He made 1 error in 50 games ( 440 chances) at first. That is adequate.Errors are not a good measure of a first baseman, because the throws he doesn't dig out of the dirt are charged to the player making the throw, not him. Who do you think Youk, Alexei, and Beckham like seeing at first, Paulie or Dunn?

Foulke You
10-02-2012, 05:21 PM
Errors are not a good measure of a first baseman, because the throws he doesn't dig out of the dirt are charged to the player making the throw, not him. Who do you think Youk, Alexei, and Beckham like seeing at first, Paulie or Dunn?
I am not disputing that Paulie is better than Dunn. This goes without saying. Paulie is clearly the superior defender. However, Dunn came in with a reputation of being a butcher at 1B and he really wasn't. I wouldn't call Dunn a gold glove out there but can you really point to any games this season where Dunn's glove at 1B cost us the game? I can't remember a single one. If it means keeping Konerko more productive offensively all season, I'd take the slight downgrade on defense at 1B.

DumpJerry
10-04-2012, 02:31 PM
Here is the posting on the White Sox' Facebook page about today's surgery:

Paul Konerko underwent successful surgery this morning at Rush University Medical Center (https://www.facebook.com/RushUniversityMedicalCenter) to remove a loose body from his left wrist.

The procedure was performed by Dr. Mark Cohen, White Sox hand and wrist specialist, with assistance from Dr. John Fernandez and Dr. Charles Bush-Joseph of Midwest Orthopedics at RUSH.

Konerko, 36, was released from the hospital and will return tomorrow to his offseason home in Scottsdale, Ariz. Sutures will be removed from his wrist in 7-10 days, and he then will undergo a follow up examination by a White Sox hand and wrist specialist in Glendale, Ariz. Konerko is expected to make a full recovery and be ready for the start of spring training.
No word on whether or not the "body" was Jimmy Hoffa.

LITTLE NELL
10-04-2012, 02:50 PM
It was obvious that Konerko was injured. At some point, he should not have been batting third. If you check his stats, you can make a strong case that he shouldn't have even been playing. Just about anyone would have produced more in the last three or so months. Dan Johnson was a real alternative, at least against righties.

He didn't bat 3rd, he batted 4th.
Paulie was really banged up this year with getting hit in the eye, having the bad wrist and getting banged up on a play at first base which resulted in a concussion. My guess is Paulie will still be productive for at least 2 more years as long as he stays healthy. I'm sure we will be seeing more of him at DH.

#1swisher
10-04-2012, 05:22 PM
Well wishes to Paul Konerko and a full recovery. We need you man! :gulp:

mahagga73
10-05-2012, 08:42 AM
It was obvious that Konerko was injured. At some point, he should not have been batting third. If you check his stats, you can make a strong case that he shouldn't have even been playing. Just about anyone would have produced more in the last three or so months. Dan Johnson was a real alternative, at least against righties.
Yes , I don't know what the delay was in getting Johnson up on the roster. He did well in the minors from what I have heard, and it looks like he is a pretty decent hitter at the MLB level. He certainly would have been a better alternative than Danks or Hudson off the bench.