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doublem23
09-19-2012, 08:32 PM
Did the calculations, here's the numbers as of this morning

TEAM R R via HR PCT
NYY 704 344 48.86
BAL 646 301 46.59
CHI 694 313 45.10
TOR 653 292 44.72
OAK 622 265 42.60
TEX 749 285 38.05
LAA 709 268 37.80
BOS 699 260 37.20
SEA 561 206 36.72
CLE 591 207 35.03
TBR 613 210 34.26
DET 666 225 33.78
MIN 652 193 29.60
KCR 622 178 28.62
AL 656 253 38.63

DSpivack
09-19-2012, 09:06 PM
Thanks for doing the math I was too lazy to do. :tongue:

I'm surprised the Tigers are so low.

doublem23
09-19-2012, 09:10 PM
Thanks for doing the math I was too lazy to do. :tongue:

I'm surprised the Tigers are so low.

It's because they surprisingly haven't hit a lot of homers

CoopaLoop
09-19-2012, 09:44 PM
6 out of the first 7 all within a couple games of the playoffs.

enurb
09-19-2012, 10:43 PM
My Tank predictions earlier today were way off base. He couldn't have had a worse night at the dish or in the field. I'm imposing a self-banishment on myself for a week.

WhiteSox5187
09-19-2012, 11:09 PM
It's because they surprisingly haven't hit a lot of homers

Well, their park isn't very conducive to home runs, where are they in terms of runs scored? Near the top, no?

DSpivack
09-19-2012, 11:15 PM
Well, their park isn't very conducive to home runs, where are they in terms of runs scored? Near the top, no?

http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/AL/2012.shtml

6th in the AL at 4.53 runs/game.

Sox are 4th at 4.72 runs/game.

DonnieDarko
09-20-2012, 08:16 AM
White Sox are 4th in runs scored in the AL?

Neato.

Mohoney
09-20-2012, 05:02 PM
Thanks for doing the math I was too lazy to do. :tongue:

I'm surprised the Tigers are so low.

Playing 81 games in Comerica Park might prevent Miguel Cabrera from winning the Triple Crown. I would absolutely hate to have Comerica as our home park.

Nellie_Fox
09-20-2012, 05:07 PM
Playing 81 games in Comerica Park might prevent Miguel Cabrera from winning the Triple Crown. I would absolutely hate to have Comerica as our home park.I would love to have a monster park (360 down the lines, 420 to center, like old Comiskey) and build a team around speed, pitching, and defense. You could get a lot of players that are not valued by slugging teams and have a huge home-field advantage. But, everybody wants home runs now, so that won't happen anywhere.

Mohoney
09-20-2012, 05:09 PM
I would love to have a monster park (360 down the lines, 420 to center, like old Comiskey) and build a team around speed, pitching, and defense. You could get a lot of players that are not valued by slugging teams and have a huge home-field advantage. But, everybody wants home runs now, so that won't happen anywhere.

Sorry about that. I didn't mean to suggest one style of play is superior to another. What I meant was, with the team we have now, I would hate to have Comerica as our home park.

With the team we have, I don't think we're in first place right now if we played in Comerica.

doublem23
09-22-2012, 12:46 AM
If anyone wants to keep track of this stat periodically, I just found that Baseball Prospectus does now. It's the "Guillen Number," named for our own former manager because the Sox usually relied on the HR to score instead of the smallball-type stuff he preached.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/sortable/index.php?cid=1091259

doublem23
09-22-2012, 01:16 AM
I would love to have a monster park (360 down the lines, 420 to center, like old Comiskey) and build a team around speed, pitching, and defense. You could get a lot of players that are not valued by slugging teams and have a huge home-field advantage. But, everybody wants home runs now, so that won't happen anywhere.

Isn't this essentially what the Twins and Padres have attempted to do with not so great results?

StillMissOzzie
09-22-2012, 01:25 AM
I feel like the Sox lead the world in solo HRs.

SMO
:?:

Nellie_Fox
09-22-2012, 01:27 AM
Isn't this essentially what the Twins and Padres have attempted to do with not so great results?I don't pay any attention to the NL, so I can't say anything about the Padres, but the Twins did not expect the park to be the dead zone that it is. IIRC the dimensions are identical to the Metrodome, but the ball just dies. Also, their pitching has been terrible; I did say pitching was a part of what you'd need.

Finally, during the time Terry Ryan was gone, the Twins seemed to drift away from their philosophy of control pitchers and contact over power in hitters, and expecting defensive fundamentals. That's the reason they've brought Ryan back, and it will take him a while to get back to his philosophy.

Edit: I just checked, and Target Field is actually smaller in left, left-center, and center than Metrodome, and pretty much identical in right and right-center.

doublem23
09-22-2012, 01:28 AM
I feel like the Sox lead the world in solo HRs.

SMO
:?:

AL Solo HR (as of 9/21)

TEAM HR
NYY 129
BAL 109
TEX 108
LAA 105
CHI 104
OAK 104
TOR 101
TBR 100
DET 91
BOS 87
SEA 81
KCR 74
MIN 73
CLE 68

http://www.baseball-reference.com/play-index/split_stats_lg.cgi?full=1&params=bases%7C000%7CAL%7C2012%7Cbat%7CAB%7C

Frater Perdurabo
09-22-2012, 08:25 AM
I don't pay any attention to the NL, so I can't say anything about the Padres, but the Twins did not expect the park to be the dead zone that it is. IIRC the dimensions are identical to the Metrodome, but the ball just dies. Also, their pitching has been terrible; I did say pitching was a part of what you'd need.

Finally, during the time Terry Ryan was gone, the Twins seemed to drift away from their philosophy of control pitchers and contact over power in hitters, and expecting defensive fundamentals. That's the reason they've brought Ryan back, and it will take him a while to get back to his philosophy.

Edit: I just checked, and Target Field is actually smaller in left, left-center, and center than Metrodome, and pretty much identical in right and right-center.

My hypothesis is that the turf, noise, white roof, lighting and air pressure difference (and maybe even the reversible fans) gave the Twins a big home field advantage, as they were accustomed to playing there 81 games/year, while their opponents did not. Now Target Field isn't that much different from all other open-air natural-grass parks, and so the significant road-team-disadvantage that helped the Twins is gone.

Coupled with the talent pipeline slowing, and Mauer's contract preventing the retention of Sox-killers Cuddyer and Kubel, and it's a complete 180 from just a few years ago.

Lip Man 1
09-22-2012, 11:33 AM
Frater:

I've had players tell me it took two days just to get used to the place and by then Minnesota usually had won a few games and the opponent couldn't wait to get out of town. It was the biggest home field advantage in the majors.

Lip

Frater Perdurabo
09-22-2012, 11:37 AM
Frater:

I've had players tell me it took two days just to get used to the place and by then Minnesota usually had won a few games and the opponent couldn't wait to get out of town. It was the biggest home field advantage in the majors.

Lip

I attended two Sox-Twins games there in 2009 (including Buehrle's start after his perfecto), and the overall effect was mildly disorienting, in a way that I had never experienced at any other ballpark.

doublem23
09-22-2012, 11:52 AM
I attended two Sox-Twins games there in 2009 (including Buehrle's start after his perfecto), and the overall effect was mildly disorienting, in a way that I had never experienced at any other ballpark.

I have no idea how anyone ever caught a fly ball there

thomas35forever
09-22-2012, 12:02 PM
I actually had a bad feeling when De Aza hit the homer last night. Felt like it would be one of those nights and I was right.