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Frater Perdurabo
07-07-2012, 05:38 PM
What a game!

soxnut1018
07-07-2012, 05:39 PM
Good time to be a Sox fan.

SoxFan49
07-07-2012, 05:39 PM
Youkilis really makes this team unstoppable!

aryzner
07-07-2012, 05:39 PM
I was really worried about this homestand with Texas coming in and then the Jays, who always play us hard.

To have this homestand going as best possible scenario so far? Awesome.

Let's sweep 'em tomorrow!!

Brian26
07-07-2012, 05:40 PM
11 out of 14, 3.5 game lead, we got a team.

Zakath
07-07-2012, 05:40 PM
Sox 10 games over for the first time since the end of the 2010 season. Gavin wins for the first time ever vs. the Jays; Romero loses for the first time ever vs. the Sox.

And that No. 20? He's OK...

soxinem1
07-07-2012, 05:40 PM
Now ten over .500!!

5-0 on the homestand!

Gavin worked quick and hit his spots.

Youk with the blast and great sales job in the 9th!!

And Thornton closed it out? Mercy!! :bandance:

cbone
07-07-2012, 05:40 PM
Wow, this is really fun! :bandance::gulp:

34rancher
07-07-2012, 05:41 PM
If Youk isn't greeting with a standing O tomorrow, then shame on us. He's singlehandedly given us the lead or win or what 5 in a row.
Guess he likes hitting at the cell.

spawn
07-07-2012, 05:41 PM
This team is terrible. Kenny Williams is the worst GM in all of baseball. 90 losses here we come!

LITTLE NELL
07-07-2012, 05:41 PM
Another character building game, the kind you need to win pennants.
Time for another sweep!

central44
07-07-2012, 05:41 PM
I've come to associate the Jays with very bad things over the past few seasons--i'm really glad the Sox have already won this series! :D:

The worst we can do on this homestand against the Rangers and Jays is 5-1...wow.

Zakath
07-07-2012, 05:43 PM
This team is terrible. Kenny Williams is the worst GM in all of baseball. 90 losses here we come!

We'd have to play .256 baseball the rest of the way (20-58) to match SI's prediction of 67-95 for the season.

Chez
07-07-2012, 05:48 PM
I appreciated this game.

LoveYourSuit
07-07-2012, 05:48 PM
OMG if Gavin could do this for us every 5 days.

What Peavy and him have done vs that lineup the last two nights is mighty impressive.

LongLiveFisk
07-07-2012, 05:50 PM
It did look like Bautista slid off the base in the 9th, and I think Youk was still tagging him, so if that's the case then he's obviously out.

Noneck
07-07-2012, 05:52 PM
The Sox pitching have been shutting down 2 very good hitting clubs, impressive.

ChiSoxGal85
07-07-2012, 05:53 PM
Youkilis has absolutely been key to this team's success in the last few series. Thanks, Boston!!!

Nice job by Gavin. His last two games have been much better.

Looking for the sweep tomorrow!!!

Chez
07-07-2012, 05:54 PM
We were this hot going into the break in 2009. If KW trades Quintana for Edwin Jackson, I'm done.

slavko
07-07-2012, 05:59 PM
Ball beats runner, runner out. Dumb to go for 3, deserved it. Floyd with #1 Ace stuff now, don't lose it. What's Youk won for us now, 5 games? Man's on a mission. And they hit a few balls at our guys, that's tough, that's baseball.

Don't assume a loss tomorrow. Dylan is only mediocre, not bad. And he hasn't hurt us when he got the ball, either.

Brian26
07-07-2012, 06:01 PM
It did look like Bautista slid off the base in the 9th, and I think Youk was still tagging him, so if that's the case then he's obviously out.

Bautista should have been called out for stupidity by default in trying to get to third base when his team was down two runs in the 9th.

Brian26
07-07-2012, 06:03 PM
We were this hot going into the break in 2009. If KW trades Quintana for Edwin Jackson, I'm done.

That trade was in 2010 though. 2009 was the Peavy trade. Admittedly, those two seasons were very similar. The Sox were hot going into the Break and then cooled off the rest of the way.

Brian26
07-07-2012, 06:04 PM
Don't assume a loss tomorrow. Dylan is only mediocre, not bad. And he hasn't hurt us when he got the ball, either.

I'd like the Sox to grab a big lead early and make sure Romero's drilling of AJ for no reason today is gifted back to Lind or Bautista.

Tragg
07-07-2012, 06:08 PM
This is Floyd - he pitches great games and forgettable games. He's not striking out many, and next time more hits may get through. Over a season, he's a pretty good 4th starter, which is where he sits with the Sox.
I think our starting pitching's fine. 3 really good ones, which is all we need for the playoffs.
If we can get an upgrade over Axelrod without giving up anything, then fine.

WhiteSox5187
07-07-2012, 06:09 PM
That trade was in 2010 though. 2009 was the Peavy trade. Admittedly, those two seasons were very similar. The Sox were hot going into the Break and then cooled off the rest of the way.

Perhaps my memory is faulty, I don't remember the Sox being that hot in 2009. I remember them looking pretty lethargic until inter league and then continuing their lethargic play save for a run in late July that culminated with Buehrle's perfect game. In 2010 I think they were in the middle of that ten game winning streak at the break.

HomeFish
07-07-2012, 06:14 PM
I saw the Blue Jays AAA team play last night. Lots of guys on that team with .300+ averages hitting for power. The fact that they are in AAA shows the strength of this Blue Jays lineup. But with all due respect to Peavy and Floyd, I am still more impressed by what Quintana did to the Rangers.

Chez
07-07-2012, 06:14 PM
That trade was in 2010 though. 2009 was the Peavy trade. Admittedly, those two seasons were very similar. The Sox were hot going into the Break and then cooled off the rest of the way.

Yep. 2010. My mistake.

SoxSpeed22
07-07-2012, 06:16 PM
There's no way in hell we win this game last year. I think we can safely say that last year is in the rear-view mirror and we are waving it goodbye (or giving it the finger, whichever one). Nothing to complain about for winning 9 of 12 in an important stretch.

BigKlu59
07-07-2012, 06:20 PM
Another character building game, the kind you need to win pennants.
Time for another sweep!

You said it... Wont have the yips down the stretch when a couple of runs need to go a long way. Thank you Bobby Valentine for having such a hard head.. We'll take a hungry scrapping Vet to fill a leadership role on the USS White Sox. All Hands on Deck as we watch your dingy sink in Boston Harbour.

Love the way these guys pick each other up..

BK59

TDog
07-07-2012, 06:30 PM
We were this hot going into the break in 2009. If KW trades Quintana for Edwin Jackson, I'm done.

You're probably thinking of 2010. The White Sox won the last nine games going into the All-Star break to take a half-game lead in the division. But the dynmanics were different. Peavy had gone down with his season-ending injury earlier in the month. Garcia was starting to lose it. That last game before the break was against the Royals. Hudson gave up five runs in four innings to the Royals, but the White Sox scored 15 that day. Going into the break, the White Sox had two pitchers that could be expected to get knocked around early, putting strain on the bullpen, which increased after the break.

This year, Floyd and Axelrod are giving the White Sox more than Garcia and Hudson, and Peavy, Sale and Quintana are giving the White Sox at least as much as Peavy, Buehrle and Danks. And Danks and Humber should be back in the second half.

Really, the pitching has been great on this homestand, except for a bad first inning by Axelrod in a game the White Sox won after never being out of. Floyd, who it was argued was a bad pitcher because he gave up two home runs in Yankee stadium last week, hasn't been scored upon in the two games before that and this afternoon.

The White Sox are playing great baseball. It could be frustrating all-or nothing baseball, big runs agaisnt the rangers and nothing since, if not for Youkilis, who has been the offensive MVP since he came over from the Red Sox. He has averaged more than an RBI a game, and they have been big RBIs in close low-scoring games. His play at third today in the ninth reflected his experience. Bautista, though, must have put sticking a triple in his stat line above winning today because there was absolutely no reason with one out in the ninth to try to go to third base if there is going to be a play. His run means nothing. If he comes around to score, it still leaves the Jays short. A hitter behind him has to score to tie the game.

Last night, if the defense didn't win the game for the White Sox, the Jays defense contributed to the Jays losing the game. Today, the White Sox defense recovered from a mistake, at least making the win easier, but the recovery was made possible by bad baserunning.

I would rather see Sale start Sunday, not take the mound in the All-Star Game and come back Friday night against the Royals. But Ventura knows what he is doing. Today the winning run was put in scoring position after Ventura ordered a sacrifice bunt, although as it turned out, scoring position would have been first. And the White Sox beat the Rangers with Axelrod starting on this homestand.

mzh
07-07-2012, 06:39 PM
This little run we are now is much more impressive than the one a few weeks ago, IMO. The first time we just got hot and blew everybody away. This time around we are winning games that we should not be winning, proving that we can win even on days when the offense doesn't give us more than a couple runs. If the mantra of last year's team was snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, it has certainly been the other way around thus far.

FielderJones
07-07-2012, 06:40 PM
Looks like Thornton can pitch a 9th inning once in a while after all.

That misplay by Tank could been disastrous, but for the stupidity of Bautista. Maybe Robin needs to send a message by subbing Danks in left at the end of a couple games.

doublem23
07-07-2012, 06:45 PM
This team is terrible. Kenny Williams is the worst GM in all of baseball. 90 losses here we come!

You forgot the parts where we need to dump Dunn, Peavy, and Rios for pennies on the dollar

doublem23
07-07-2012, 06:46 PM
I've come to associate the Jays with very bad things over the past few seasons--i'm really glad the Sox have already won this series! :D:

I've associated the Jays with bad things since 1993

PalehosePlanet
07-07-2012, 06:50 PM
Looks like Thornton can pitch a 9th inning once in a while after all.

That misplay by Tank could been disastrous, but for the stupidity of Bautista. Maybe Robin needs to send a message by subbing Danks in left at the end of a couple games.

He lost the ball in the sun, which can happen. It's not like he dogged it or took a bad route to the ball. I'd imagine that LF at the Cell, facing straight west, directly at the sun at 5:30-6:00PM could be pretty rough.

Bringing in Danks because he's a better outfielder is a good idea, but not to teach Tank a lesson.

doublem23
07-07-2012, 06:51 PM
Youkilis has absolutely been key to this team's success in the last few series. Thanks, Boston!!!

9-3 since the trade, IIRC

Watching the Sawx/Yankees on Fox and Boston's 3B is having a rough game at the hot corner. Thanks, Bobby V.

TheOldRoman
07-07-2012, 06:54 PM
Youk with the blast and great sales job in the 9th!!It wasn't a sales job. Bautista beat the tag but slid off the bag. Youk kept the tag on him after his hand came off, and that's when he was called out.

Great win today. It's infuriating that the Sox did nothing against Romero, who has been terrible of late. He didn't give up less than 5 runs in any of his past 8 starts, and gave up 8 and 9 in his last two. Oh well, I guess he "found it" today. I'm glad that Gavin had a great game and Youk got a hold of one. I'm glad the Sox are staying on a run while the Tigers are finally putting on their big-boy pants against the Royals. They've gotta be pissed they have gone 7-3 over their last ten and LOST a game to the Sox.

palehozenychicty
07-07-2012, 07:03 PM
Another good win. Just keep it rolling.

tstrike2000
07-07-2012, 07:06 PM
I'm liking this lumberjack looking guy we have playing third base for us.

DumpJerry
07-07-2012, 07:09 PM
9-3 since the trade, IIRC

Watching the Sawx/Yankees on Fox and Boston's 3B is having a rough game at the hot corner. Thanks, Bobby V.
I'm pretty sure the Mayor of Boston has issued a shoot to kill order with respect to one Bobby Valentine.

What were the Red Sox thinking when they hired him? There's a reason he was in Japan for 10 years while there were countless of Manager openings here in MLB.

Quentin08
07-07-2012, 07:31 PM
Nice momentum going into the All-Star break. A win tomorrow would be fantastic!

We have a tough 10-game road trip coming up after the break (homecoming for Youk) but I have a good feeling about it. Then we come home to face Minny in our 2nd sellout of the season. Let's keep it up!

soxinem1
07-07-2012, 07:38 PM
I've associated the Jays with bad things since 1993

I go back to 1977. The White Sox lost the first ever game played between the two teams that year and not much has changed since then, or so it seems.

voodoochile
07-07-2012, 08:21 PM
How to win the PTC. A primer on how to pick a guaranteed winner:

PTC: YOOOOOOOUUUUK or the starting pitcher

B/U: The one you didn't pick to be PTC

You're welcome...

:soxwin:

:)

:supernana: :supernana: :supernana:

WLL1855
07-07-2012, 08:30 PM
He lost the ball in the sun, which can happen. It's not like he dogged it or took a bad route to the ball. I'd imagine that LF at the Cell, facing straight west, directly at the sun at 5:30-6:00PM could be pretty rough.

Bringing in Danks because he's a better outfielder is a good idea, but not to teach Tank a lesson.

Well put. Anyone watching the game and with any understanding of how baseball is played could tell it was a honest mistake. Calling for Tank's head over a play where he was stuck in a bad spot through no fault of his own is overreacting.

amsteel
07-07-2012, 09:11 PM
0.590 ball the rest of the way gets the Sox to 93ish wins which should be enough to win the division.

They've played 0.560 ball to this point.

A. Cavatica
07-07-2012, 09:22 PM
I miss Ozzie.

Zakath
07-07-2012, 09:45 PM
0.590 ball the rest of the way gets the Sox to 93ish wins which should be enough to win the division.

They've played 0.560 ball to this point.

Here's what we have left after tomorrow (77 games; 35 H, 42A):

AL East (19; 7H, 12A): 4 @Baltimore (8/27-30); 4 @Boston (7/16-19); 3 vs. New York (8/20-22); 4 vs. Tampa Bay (9/27-30); 4 @Toronto (8/13-16)

AL Central (43; 19H, 24A): 3 @Cleveland (10/1-3); 3 vs. Cleveland (9/24-26); 6 @Detroit (7/20-22; 8/31-9/2); 4 vs. Detroit (9/10-13); 9 @Kansas City (7/13-15; 8/17-19; 9/18-20); 6 vs. Kansas City (8/6-8; 9/7-9); 6 @Minnesota (7/30-8/1; 9/14-16); 6 vs. Minnesota (7/23-25; 9/3-5)

AL West (15; 9H, 6A): 3 @Los Angeles (9/21-23); 3 vs. Los Angeles (8/3-5); 3 vs. Oakland (8/10-12); 3 vs. Seattle (8/24-26); 3 @Texas (7/27-29)

The key is going to be how well we come out of the gate in the second half. 16 of the first 19 after the break are on the road. Cleveland doesn't have it much easier, with 16 of their first 23 on the road, while Detroit has 12 of their first 19 on the road.

Noneck
07-07-2012, 09:52 PM
Here's what we have left after tomorrow (77 games; 35 H, 42A):

AL East (19; 7H, 12A): 4 @Baltimore (8/27-30); 4 @Boston (7/16-19); 3 vs. New York (8/20-22); 4 vs. Tampa Bay (9/27-30); 4 @Toronto (8/13-16)

AL Central (43; 19H, 24A): 3 @Cleveland (10/1-3); 3 vs. Cleveland (9/24-26); 6 @Detroit (7/20-22; 8/31-9/2); 4 vs. Detroit (9/10-13); 9 @Kansas City (7/13-15; 8/17-19; 9/18-20); 6 vs. Kansas City (8/6-8; 9/7-9); 6 @Minnesota (7/30-8/1; 9/14-16); 6 vs. Minnesota (7/23-25; 9/3-5)

AL West (15; 9H, 6A): 3 @Los Angeles (9/21-23); 3 vs. Los Angeles (8/3-5); 3 vs. Oakland (8/10-12); 3 vs. Seattle (8/24-26); 3 @Texas (7/27-29)

The key is going to be how well we come out of the gate in the second half. 16 of the first 19 after the break are on the road. Cleveland doesn't have it much easier, with 16 of their first 23 on the road, while Detroit has 12 of their first 19 on the road.

15 games vs. KC in the 2nd half. Thats a heck of a lot a games.

One more west coast series, thats good.

Mingo
07-07-2012, 09:53 PM
I don't know - maybe it is too obvious to say, but in the last two weeks Youkilis has provided this team with the emotional charge Aaron Rowand gave the 2005 White Sox.

It will be very interesting if Youk can sustain that emotional pitch he gives this team.

Zakath
07-07-2012, 09:57 PM
15 games vs. KC in the 2nd half. Thats a heck of a lot a games.

The Royals have a lot of home games in the second half (44) so they could potentially play themselves back into the fight, if it weren't for the fact that they are Kansas City and have little talent (their pitching staff is mediocre at best and they have little if any power in their lineup).

TDog
07-07-2012, 10:12 PM
I go back to 1977. The White Sox lost the first ever game played between the two teams that year and not much has changed since then, or so it seems.

And there was snow that day. The White Sox actually lost two of three to the Jays in that opening series. Doug Ault looked like a future home run king. Then they went 53-106 over the next 159 games.

Of course, I especially hate the Jays for 1993. Some even blame them for Michael Jordan's first retirement.

SoxandtheCityTee
07-07-2012, 10:45 PM
A beautiful day at the park. Temps dropped, I was sitting in the shade, there was a breeze off the lake -- and then there was the game! Noisy Jays fans behind us grew morose, poor things. Bring out the brooms tomorrow.

samurai_sox
07-07-2012, 11:00 PM
And there was snow that day. The White Sox actually lost two of three to the Jays in that opening series. Doug Ault looked like a future home run king. Then they went 53-106 over the next 159 games.

Of course, I especially hate the Jays for 1993. Some even blame them for Michael Jordan's first retirement.

:scratch:

delben91
07-07-2012, 11:19 PM
It's infuriating that the Sox did nothing against Romero, who has been terrible of late.

Blue Jays could easily say the same of their performance against Floyd today. Guess Gavin "found it" as well.

MtGrnwdSoxFan
07-07-2012, 11:22 PM
Blue Jays could easily say the same of their performance against Floyd today. Guess Gavin "found it" as well.

Floyd has been solid for the last four or so starts, the Yankee start notwithstanding.

WhiteSox5187
07-07-2012, 11:46 PM
0.590 ball the rest of the way gets the Sox to 93ish wins which should be enough to win the division.

They've played 0.560 ball to this point.

There is no way the White Sox play .590 ball here on out, that is close to .600; I think it is important to remember that this appears to be a streaky team and that they are never as good as we all think when they are on a hot streak and not as bad as we all think when they are on a cold streak. I think 90 wins will be good enough to win the Central and I think that you then have to hope the Sox are on a hot streak going into October.

central44
07-08-2012, 12:58 AM
There is no way the White Sox play .590 ball here on out, that is close to .600; I think it is important to remember that this appears to be a streaky team and that they are never as good as we all think when they are on a hot streak and not as bad as we all think when they are on a cold streak. I think 90 wins will be good enough to win the Central and I think that you then have to hope the Sox are on a hot streak going into October.

They probably won't play .600 ball, but at the same time I don't really count the mediocre games back in April when assessing the true ability of this team.

Ever since that hot streak, the Sox have morphed into a team that believes they can win every game, and it shows. The April Sox felt like a continuation of the 2011 team that quit on Ozzie and went through the motions--since May, they've looked like a different team that is having fun, and on the field is capable of either scoring 10 runs or winning a 1-0 game.

There will always be hot and cold streaks (for every team) but as long as they keep playing good defense (the one thing they can control) they'll weather those storms.

Personally I think this is one of those teams that could *potentially* win only 88-90 games, yet still be an extremely tough out in the postseason due to the pitching and defense alone.

cards press box
07-08-2012, 01:22 AM
I appreciated this game.

How about it!

:winner

thomas35forever
07-08-2012, 02:03 AM
I miss Ozzie.
This post makes me wonder what's going through his mind right now. Going into the break, his club is hovering around .500 and we're leading the Central. Unbelievable that he may have been the main problem after all. If so, thanks for taking your talents to South Beach, Oz.

As for today's game, another good one. Hope the good Floyd's here to stay and Youkilis keeps this up throughout the second half.

BainesHOF
07-08-2012, 03:54 AM
Awesome game, lame crowd.

I've come to expect lame crowds for day games. Maybe it's because more kids are in the park. Maybe the day crowd as a whole is baseball's version of "Sunday drivers." Whatever the case, the day crowds are usually lame. It was the fourth game of the season for me and, while I don't have much expectations of a day crowd at this point, people were weirdly tepid. It seemed like most of those in attendance were oblivious to the team's standing and Youkilis' tear. Youkilis' homer brought a standard reaction for a homer. A curtain call was in order, but there was absolutely no call for one. The crowd was in stark contrast to Wednesday's game that I attended and even Thursday's modest afternoon crowd, which I thought sounded pretty electric through the TV in the rainy ninth. I won't even bore you with the incredibly stupid, inane chatter I heard where I was sitting in section 125 behind the Toronto dugout. I'm so sick about hearing about the team's lack of attendance over the years, but I feel compelled to vent by what I heard/didn't hear Saturday. It's not like the weather was a factor either. You'd think that cool temperatures would have energized people. In any case, I thought the support for the team sucked at the park.

On a different subject, Bautista should've had no complaints about the call at third. The initial tag was irrelevant because he came off the bag while Youkilis still had the glove on him.

fusillirob1983
07-08-2012, 06:25 AM
Awesome game, lame crowd.

I've come to expect lame crowds for day games. Maybe it's because more kids are in the park. Maybe the day crowd as a whole is baseball's version of "Sunday drivers." Whatever the case, the day crowds are usually lame. It was the fourth game of the season for me and, while I don't have much expectations of a day crowd at this point, people were weirdly tepid. It seemed like most of those in attendance were oblivious to the team's standing and Youkilis' tear. Youkilis' homer brought a standard reaction for a homer. A curtain call was in order, but there was absolutely no call for one. The crowd was in stark contrast to Wednesday's game that I attended and even Thursday's modest afternoon crowd, which I thought sounded pretty electric through the TV in the rainy ninth. I won't even bore you with the incredibly stupid, inane chatter I heard where I was sitting in section 125 behind the Toronto dugout. I'm so sick about hearing about the team's lack of attendance over the years, but I feel compelled to vent by what I heard/didn't hear Saturday. It's not like the weather was a factor either. You'd think that cool temperatures would have energized people. In any case, I thought the support for the team sucked at the park.

On a different subject, Bautista should've had no complaints about the call at third. The initial tag was irrelevant because he came off the bag while Youkilis still had the glove on him.

I'm not sure about other people, but I wasn't aware how much cooler it was outside until I stepped out around 2PM. The forecast on Friday night called for a high of 97. My running group was cancelled yesterday morning because of an excessive heat warning. It was 92 at 8:30AM and 77 around 2PM.

Chez
07-08-2012, 06:31 AM
Awesome game, lame crowd.

I've come to expect lame crowds for day games. Maybe it's because more kids are in the park. Maybe the day crowd as a whole is baseball's version of "Sunday drivers." Whatever the case, the day crowds are usually lame. It was the fourth game of the season for me and, while I don't have much expectations of a day crowd at this point, people were weirdly tepid. It seemed like most of those in attendance were oblivious to the team's standing and Youkilis' tear. Youkilis' homer brought a standard reaction for a homer. A curtain call was in order, but there was absolutely no call for one. The crowd was in stark contrast to Wednesday's game that I attended and even Thursday's modest afternoon crowd, which I thought sounded pretty electric through the TV in the rainy ninth. I won't even bore you with the incredibly stupid, inane chatter I heard where I was sitting in section 125 behind the Toronto dugout. I'm so sick about hearing about the team's lack of attendance over the years, but I feel compelled to vent by what I heard/didn't hear Saturday. It's not like the weather was a factor either. You'd think that cool temperatures would have energized people. In any case, I thought the support for the team sucked at the park.


I understand your point about afternoon crowds, but given the Sox attendance issues this season, blaming those who actually attended seems a bit backwards!

Frater Perdurabo
07-08-2012, 07:22 AM
They probably won't play .600 ball, but at the same time I don't really count the mediocre games back in April when assessing the true ability of this team.

Ever since that hot streak, the Sox have morphed into a team that believes they can win every game, and it shows. The April Sox felt like a continuation of the 2011 team that quit on Ozzie and went through the motions--since May, they've looked like a different team that is having fun, and on the field is capable of either scoring 10 runs or winning a 1-0 game.

There will always be hot and cold streaks (for every team) but as long as they keep playing good defense (the one thing they can control) they'll weather those storms.

Personally I think this is one of those teams that could *potentially* win only 88-90 games, yet still be an extremely tough out in the postseason due to the pitching and defense alone.

They are a different team. Quintana is pitching much better than Danks did. Axelrod is pitching better than Humber did after the perfecto. Jordan Danks is playing better than Fukudome did. And finally, Youkilis is a major upgrade over Morel/Hudson.

Hitmen77
07-08-2012, 09:44 AM
Youkilis has made a huge difference for this team. It's not only his offense, but his defense too of course.

That trade was in 2010 though. 2009 was the Peavy trade. Admittedly, those two seasons were very similar. The Sox were hot going into the Break and then cooled off the rest of the way.

Perhaps my memory is faulty, I don't remember the Sox being that hot in 2009. I remember them looking pretty lethargic until inter league and then continuing their lethargic play save for a run in late July that culminated with Buehrle's perfect game. In 2010 I think they were in the middle of that ten game winning streak at the break.

The difference between 2009/2010 and this year is that the Sox dug themselves in substantial holes in those past years (6.5 games out in June 2009 and 9.5 out in June 2010) before the team went on a tear and made it to first place. The problem those years is that those hot streaks were not sustainable and the the team faded out of the race in the 2nd half.

2010's hot streak from 9 games out to first place was pretty much the result of the Sox totally owning NL teams during interleague play. However, that team did also win 6 of 7 during the first week of July against the Rangers and Angels (2 good teams).

This year's team has had its hot and cold streaks too, but they've been pretty consistently in or near first place since late May.

Quentin08
07-08-2012, 10:00 AM
Awesome game, lame crowd.

I've come to expect lame crowds for day games. Maybe it's because more kids are in the park. Maybe the day crowd as a whole is baseball's version of "Sunday drivers." Whatever the case, the day crowds are usually lame. It was the fourth game of the season for me and, while I don't have much expectations of a day crowd at this point, people were weirdly tepid. It seemed like most of those in attendance were oblivious to the team's standing and Youkilis' tear. Youkilis' homer brought a standard reaction for a homer. A curtain call was in order, but there was absolutely no call for one. The crowd was in stark contrast to Wednesday's game that I attended and even Thursday's modest afternoon crowd, which I thought sounded pretty electric through the TV in the rainy ninth. I won't even bore you with the incredibly stupid, inane chatter I heard where I was sitting in section 125 behind the Toronto dugout. I'm so sick about hearing about the team's lack of attendance over the years, but I feel compelled to vent by what I heard/didn't hear Saturday. It's not like the weather was a factor either. You'd think that cool temperatures would have energized people. In any case, I thought the support for the team sucked at the park.

On a different subject, Bautista should've had no complaints about the call at third. The initial tag was irrelevant because he came off the bag while Youkilis still had the glove on him.

When you have thousands of people at the game who are all disappointed in the turnout, I think it has an effect on the energy they give out during the game. I know I sort of sat back at the last game I attended and didn't give much energy or cheer as loudly as I usually do just because I was a bit bummed by the sea of empty seats. When we get bigger crowds, no one will be disappointed, everyone will be pumped, and it will be electric as ever. The next Monday night game (July 23) is very close to selling out, and I can almost guarantee the crowd will be incredibly loud and lively.

October26
07-08-2012, 10:41 AM
Since I worked on Saturday, I decided to watch the reply of this game on ComCast on Demand. I knew the Sox had won as I listened to the game on the radio, but it was a fun game to watch. Here are a few observations:

1) While it may have been unintentional, AJ getting hit in the back/side ribs is unacceptable. I know that had to hurt. :mad:

2) Gavin pitched great! :bandance:

2) Hawk's call of Youk's homer in the 5th was outstanding! Youkilis looks so happy wearing a White Sox uniform. I hope he can stay healthy and continue playing well both offensively and defensively. Oh, and I love how quickly Sox fans have taken to him and are yelling out the "YOUK" chant. :D:

4) I'm glad Viciedo losing the ball in the sun in the 9th did not come back to haunt the Sox. Great throw by Alexei to Youk and a nice swipe tag to get Bautista out.

5) Great game! Keep on winning, White Sox! :)

PeteWard
07-08-2012, 12:08 PM
It wasn't a sales job. Bautista beat the tag but slid off the bag. Youk kept the tag on him after his hand came off, and that's when he was called out.

Great win today. It's infuriating that the Sox did nothing against Romero, who has been terrible of late. He didn't give up less than 5 runs in any of his past 8 starts, and gave up 8 and 9 in his last two. Oh well, I guess he "found it" today. I'm glad that Gavin had a great game and Youk got a hold of one. I'm glad the Sox are staying on a run while the Tigers are finally putting on their big-boy pants against the Royals. They've gotta be pissed they have gone 7-3 over their last ten and LOST a game to the Sox.

I'm pissed the sox have gone 8-2 and only gained one game on them. That Twinks pen meltdown the other night was awful

PeteWard
07-08-2012, 12:11 PM
Awesome game, lame crowd.

I've come to expect lame crowds for day games. Maybe it's because more kids are in the park. Maybe the day crowd as a whole is baseball's version of "Sunday drivers." Whatever the case, the day crowds are usually lame. It was the fourth game of the season for me and, while I don't have much expectations of a day crowd at this point, people were weirdly tepid. It seemed like most of those in attendance were oblivious to the team's standing and Youkilis' tear. Youkilis' homer brought a standard reaction for a homer. A curtain call was in order, but there was absolutely no call for one. The crowd was in stark contrast to Wednesday's game that I attended and even Thursday's modest afternoon crowd, which I thought sounded pretty electric through the TV in the rainy ninth. I won't even bore you with the incredibly stupid, inane chatter I heard where I was sitting in section 125 behind the Toronto dugout. I'm so sick about hearing about the team's lack of attendance over the years, but I feel compelled to vent by what I heard/didn't hear Saturday. It's not like the weather was a factor either. You'd think that cool temperatures would have energized people. In any case, I thought the support for the team sucked at the park.

On a different subject, Bautista should've had no complaints about the call at third. The initial tag was irrelevant because he came off the bag while Youkilis still had the glove on him.

At least this year no one is doing the wave. Or am I wrong?

TDog
07-08-2012, 12:29 PM
:scratch:

Remember Game 1 of the ALCS? Guillen tied the game in the fourth with a two-run single after a Karkovice sacrifice, and Raines singled him in to give the Sox the lead. But the Blue Jays came back against McDowell with three in the top of the fifth and two more in the top of the seventh while the Blue Jays pitchers were limiting the Sox to just one more hit. And amid the frustration and disappointment in the ninth inning, there was a rumor going around that Michael Jordan, who was attending the game had left and out of the blue was retiring from the Bulls. The rumor turned into true postgame announcement.

Damn you, Blue Jays!

fusillirob1983
07-08-2012, 01:54 PM
At least this year no one is doing the wave. Or am I wrong?

They did it on the 4th of July, awful. I was at the game with my Cub fan roommate. He got a good laugh out of it.

MtGrnwdSoxFan
07-08-2012, 04:10 PM
I'm pissed the sox have gone 8-2 and only gained one game on them. That Twinks pen meltdown the other night was awful

You could look at it this way...how do you think the Tigers and their fans feel that they've gone 7-3 the last 10 and actually lost a game to the Sox?

Yeah, it's aggravating that the Sox can't get much separation from the Tigers, but at least we're matching them win for win for the most part.