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tstrike2000
06-27-2012, 04:55 PM
Thank God! Sox waive Will Ohman.

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/06/27/report-white-sox-place-ohman-on-waivers/

asindc
06-27-2012, 04:57 PM
Mr. Ohman, I wish you well in future endeavors.

tstrike2000
06-27-2012, 04:59 PM
I know he's not officially gone just yet, but I'm assuming and hoping he'll be gone soon.

ChiSoxFann
06-27-2012, 05:01 PM
At the Yard Sale earlier this month my dad bought me a Will Ohman locker nameplate as a gag gift for $5. We had a good laugh over it so thanks for that Will.

Noneck
06-27-2012, 05:01 PM
He actually wasnt too bad last year.

doublem23
06-27-2012, 05:03 PM
Will, I hope before you sign your next deal, you get it in writing that the manager and pitching coach will treat you like a LOOGY

SI1020
06-27-2012, 05:04 PM
He actually wasnt too bad last year. No he really wasn't. This years his pitches are flat and just kind of roll in their room service style for the hitters. He looked really frustrated today and Robin's expression was easy to read in the 9th inning. He'd had enough. Good luck Will, sorry it didn't work out this year.

SephClone89
06-27-2012, 05:09 PM
Sorry you never played for a manager who knew how to best utilize your limited ability.

34rancher
06-27-2012, 05:14 PM
I'm really hoping he goes to either the Tigers or Indians.

Either that or the Yanks, Rangers, or Angels whom we could play in the playoffs.

#1swisher
06-27-2012, 05:15 PM
Mark Gonzales

Two candidates to take Ohman's roster spot are LHPs Donnie Veal (1.62 ERA in 22 games at AAA Charlotte) and Leyson Septimo (1.48 in 21 Gs).

LITTLE NELL
06-27-2012, 05:20 PM
In a perfect world everybody on a team would do a job good enough to stay on the roster, that doesn't happen and Ohman is out of here. I'm sure it's not a fun thing to tell a player he is no longer needed and even worse when you are the player. During today's game I was screaming at Ohman while the Twins were trying for an impossible comeback, now I feel sort of bad but he had to go.

tstrike2000
06-27-2012, 05:22 PM
He actually wasnt too bad last year.

No, he was serviceable enough to keep himself on the team. This season, him and Zach Stewart probably had whiplash from watching their pitches hit out of the ballpark at record speed. And also like Stewart, it was time to part ways.

DumpJerry
06-27-2012, 05:24 PM
The Yankees, whom we have four games against now, just put two pitchers on the DL.......:thinking:

waldo_the_wolf
06-27-2012, 05:32 PM
At least Will Ohman (prior to today) had decent control so that at least made him less nerveracking than Randy Williams.

XplodingScorbord
06-27-2012, 05:33 PM
Mark Gonzales

Two candidates to take Ohman's roster spot are LHPs Donnie Veal (1.62 ERA in 22 games at AAA Charlotte) and Leyson Septimo (1.48 in 21 Gs).

No, this can't be correct. All I hear is that the Sox minor league teams are barren.

Harry Potter
06-27-2012, 05:35 PM
Sorry you never played for a manager who knew how to best utilize your limited ability.

I was at the home opener and remember how Ventura brought in Ohman to face Avila. Ohman threw one pitch, Avila hit a single, and Ventura promptly pulled him.

At the time, I thought our coaching staff had finally gotten it right, that Ohman is a LOOGY and not a one-inning pitcher.

Unfortunately that was just an apparition.

Oh well... Godspeed Will

JB98
06-27-2012, 05:40 PM
It remains to be seen whether Ohman will actually be shown the door, but at least there is mounting evidence that the Sox will make changes when players aren't performing. Hasn't always been the case the last couple years.

SoxFan49
06-27-2012, 05:44 PM
I'm glad we can move on to future endeavors, Ohman sadly didn't do much here, but I still hope he can find success somewhere.

PalehosePlanet
06-27-2012, 05:45 PM
He actually wasnt too bad last year.

That's correct. He had an awful opening series in Cleveland, then pitched pretty well the rest of the year.

Not so this year. Good luck Will.

thomas35forever
06-27-2012, 05:52 PM
Thanks for... Thanks for...

Hell, what do I want to thank him for? Doing well against lefties when called upon for the occasion?

Frontman
06-27-2012, 06:40 PM
I'm just amazed this thread made it to two pages!

Hitmen77
06-27-2012, 06:44 PM
I'm just amazed this thread made it to two pages!

Whatever happened to the Zach Stewart appreciation thread?

The Dude
06-27-2012, 07:16 PM
Thank God! Sox waive Will Ohman.

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/06/27/report-white-sox-place-ohman-on-waivers/

Hey, he can always say, "holy ****, at least I'm better than MacDougal!":redneck:gulp:

The Dude
06-27-2012, 07:17 PM
Mark Gonzales

Two candidates to take Ohman's roster spot are LHPs Donnie Veal (1.62 ERA in 22 games at AAA Charlotte) and Leyson Septimo (1.48 in 21 Gs).



Hmm both have great names, I'll take either one!:D:

FourStarsTwoBars
06-27-2012, 07:32 PM
:whiner: Will Ohman is my favorite guy :whiner:

chisoxfanatic
06-27-2012, 07:36 PM
OH-MAN!!!

It had to be said!

Irishsox1
06-27-2012, 08:25 PM
Smart move. Ohman's numbers this year are horrible and they can easily get a different lefty.

A. Cavatica
06-27-2012, 08:35 PM
"One of KW's most pointless signings."

- A. Cavatica, April 8

http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=2910388&postcount=177

shes
06-27-2012, 09:40 PM
Hmm both have great names, I'll take either one!:D:

Septimo: converted OF, now strictly a bullpen specialist, has always been horribly wild and ineffective against righties, but against lefties he's typically had some success, especially this year where they can't touch him (not a huge sample though). Command will always be an issue with him.

Veal: Also has good stuff (low 90s heat, decent curve) and serious control issues, but he's more durable than Septimo (once upon a time he was a top-flight SP prospect) and can conceivably pitch against either lefties or righties.

Neither has had any ML success. Both are nearing 30 years of age. I think Septimo has a higher ceiling in terms of what he can due for our club, but is a greater risk for pure, unadulterated, failure. Veal at least could give you 3 innings of mop-up after Humber fails to make it through 4.

I wouldn't be too excited about either, but then again, this is the last man in the 'pen we're talking about. Most teams have at least one bad Ohman on the big league club.

tstrike2000
06-27-2012, 09:48 PM
Hey, he can always say, "holy ****, at least I'm better than MacDougal!":redneck:gulp:

Mike MacDougal, brings back horrid memories of the lost summer of '07.

Sox didn't take long to decide, Ohman DFA'd.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/ct-spt-0628-bits-white-sox-twins-chicago--20120628,0,6687481.story

I like how the Sox are moving lately. DFA Fukudome and Ohman, and trade Stewart along with Lillibridge for an upgrade at 3B in Youkilis.

Tragg
06-27-2012, 09:55 PM
I don't know - as a situational lefty he was probably okay.

LoveYourSuit
06-27-2012, 10:05 PM
For a team not drawing, big props to JR and Kenny for spending $4+ million this week to better the team.

getonbckthr
06-27-2012, 10:25 PM
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Hitmen77
06-27-2012, 10:45 PM
No, this can't be correct. All I hear is that the Sox minor league teams are barren.

I guess I don't understand this comment. Nobody said these two candidates are expected to be great in the majors. How do these two relievers prove in any way that the Sox farm system isn't lacking talent?

If they're an improvement over Ohman, great. But that's a pretty low bar for "success" IMO.

Septimo: converted OF, now strictly a bullpen specialist, has always been horribly wild and ineffective against righties, but against lefties he's typically had some success, especially this year where they can't touch him (not a huge sample though). Command will always be an issue with him.

Veal: Also has good stuff (low 90s heat, decent curve) and serious control issues, but he's more durable than Septimo (once upon a time he was a top-flight SP prospect) and can conceivably pitch against either lefties or righties.

Neither has had any ML success. Both are nearing 30 years of age. I think Septimo has a higher ceiling in terms of what he can due for our club, but is a greater risk for pure, unadulterated, failure. Veal at least could give you 3 innings of mop-up after Humber fails to make it through 4.

I wouldn't be too excited about either, but then again, this is the last man in the 'pen we're talking about. Most teams have at least one bad Ohman on the big league club.

palehosepub
06-27-2012, 11:02 PM
Definitely time for Wil to move on- FWIW, he was supposedly a good clubhouse guy with a keen sense of humor. He also was one of the more active White Sox players in the charitable causes deparment, he spent his time visting serviceman / veterans.

We just need somone to hold down the 12th spot (mop up guy) until Danks (or Humber) comes back.

cws05champ
06-27-2012, 11:16 PM
I was watching Ohman pitch today and just thought...cmon, we don't have anyone in the minors better than this guy? Lefty, Righty...I don't care. Just get somebody else up here.

Bon Voyage!!!

As somebody else pointed out, I like the way the Sox are handling business right now. Fukudome is not getting it done, and gets hurt...gone, and Danks replaces him. Ohman, ineffective gone. Trading extra pieces for a big upgrade at a starting position, done.

Lamp81
06-28-2012, 01:01 AM
Definitely time for Wil to move on- FWIW, he was supposedly a good clubhouse guy with a keen sense of humor. He also was one of the more active White Sox players in the charitable causes deparment, he spent his time visting serviceman / veterans.

We just need somone to hold down the 12th spot (mop up guy) until Danks (or Humber) comes back.

I had heard on the Score, I believe, that Will Ohman walked around, with an attitude of someone who accomplished a whole lot more in his career, than what he actually did, and that rubbed some guys, in the clubhouse, the wrong way.

That being said, Will was very nice to my kids when, he signed autographs and posed for pictures on Kids Day. I always appreciate that.

StillMissOzzie
06-28-2012, 01:18 AM
A LOOGY is supposed to come in and get a lefty batter out. Ohman wasn't getting anybody out. Does that make him a NOOGY? Ot is that what he got by being DFA'd?

SMO
:scratch::D::?:

CoopaLoop
06-28-2012, 01:29 AM
He was bad, but worse he was put in too many situations to fail.

May you find your place as a lefty specialist the remainder of your career.

Nellie_Fox
06-28-2012, 01:34 AM
A LOOGY is supposed to come in and get a lefty batter out. Ohman wasn't getting anybody out. Does that make him a NOOGY? Ot is that what he got by being DFA'd?

SMO
:scratch::D::?:Left-handed hitters were batting .182 with a .559 OPS against him this year.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=ohmanwi01&year=2012&t=p

Soxman219
06-28-2012, 03:29 AM
Peace out.

larryliss
06-28-2012, 10:03 AM
This was the guy that blasted the sox when he was on the cubs. How he was finally on the better side of town. Not smart to burn bridges when in public eye.

tick53
06-28-2012, 10:48 AM
Bubbye!!!

ChiSoxGirl
06-28-2012, 10:57 AM
Peace out.

Bubbye!!!

Seriously. Dude was terrible and made too many games way more interesting than they needed to be.

doublem23
06-28-2012, 11:14 AM
This was the guy that blasted the sox when he was on the cubs. How he was finally on the better side of town. Not smart to burn bridges when in public eye.

I'm pretty sure that was Bobby Howry

SephClone89
06-28-2012, 11:22 AM
Never forget:This was the guy that blasted the sox when he was on the cubs. How he was finally on the better side of town. Not smart to burn bridges when in public eye.

Chicago Cubs (2000–2001, 2005–2007)
Atlanta Braves (2008)
Los Angeles Dodgers (2009)
Baltimore Orioles (2010)
Florida Marlins (2010)
Chicago White Sox (2011–2012)

Looks like someone has forgotten...

Tragg
06-28-2012, 02:31 PM
Left-handed hitters were batting .182 with a .559 OPS against him this year.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=ohmanwi01&year=2012&t=p

OHman's limited, but wake me up when Brian Bruney puts up those numbers.

Crestani
06-28-2012, 03:52 PM
I don't even remember him..!!

Frontman
06-28-2012, 04:12 PM
"One of KW's most pointless signings."

- A. Cavatica, April 8

http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=2910388&postcount=177

Don't pat yourself on the back too hard there...... :rolleyes:

soxinem1
06-28-2012, 04:52 PM
This was the guy that blasted the sox when he was on the cubs. How he was finally on the better side of town. Not smart to burn bridges when in public eye.

I believe that was Scott Eyre who said that.

Neal Cotts and Bob Howry also mumbled something to the same effect.

Glad to see it worked out well for all of them..

asindc
06-28-2012, 04:56 PM
OHman's limited, but wake me up when Brian Bruney puts up those numbers.

When Bruney puts up worse numbers overall than Ohman (and it allowed to stay on the MLB roster), then we can talk.

soxinem1
06-28-2012, 05:01 PM
This should be titled the 'Will Ohman Depreciation Thread'......

white sox bill
06-28-2012, 05:04 PM
Goodbye Will, thanks for uhm....uhm.....goodbye

Foulke You
06-28-2012, 06:13 PM
I believe that was Scott Eyre who said that.

Neal Cotts and Bob Howry also mumbled something to the same effect.

Glad to see it worked out well for all of them..
Howry was the one who mouthed off. Neal Cotts never did. All I remember Eyre saying was that he had a tough time when he was with the Sox because of his A.D.D. that had yet to be diagnosed.

Foulke You
06-28-2012, 06:14 PM
Oh, and Will Ohman's sheer left handed-ness and veteran-ness will all but guarantee some team will pick him off the scrap heap to "shore up" their bullpen. He won't be unemployed long.

Tragg
06-28-2012, 06:39 PM
When Bruney puts up worse numbers overall than Ohman (and it allowed to stay on the MLB roster), then we can talk.

Overall numbers aren't relevant, UNLESS Ventura will not use a situational lefty situationally.
Further, Ohmans' career, as bad as he is, is far superior to Bruney.

I know OHman's bad, but Brian Bruney's on this relief staff, and he isn't even the last man.

Nellie_Fox
06-29-2012, 12:59 AM
When Bruney puts up worse numbers overall than Ohman (and it allowed to stay on the MLB roster), then we can talk.The issue was the statement that Ohman wasn't getting anybody out. He was, in fact, getting lefties out pretty reliably. The Sox kept insisting on using him as a one or two inning guy instead of as a loogy.

Now, if they thought they didn't have room to carry him as a loogy, that's fine and understandable. But it can't be argued that he was ineffective against lefties.

asindc
06-29-2012, 05:41 AM
Overall numbers aren't relevant, UNLESS Ventura will not use a situational lefty situationally.
Further, Ohmans' career, as bad as he is, is far superior to Bruney.

I know OHman's bad, but Brian Bruney's on this relief staff, and he isn't even the last man.

The issue was the statement that Ohman wasn't getting anybody out. He was, in fact, getting lefties out pretty reliably. The Sox kept insisting on using him as a one or two inning guy instead of as a loogy.

Now, if they thought they didn't have room to carry him as a loogy, that's fine and understandable. But it can't be argued that he was ineffective against lefties.
I understand the issue. It's just clear to me that they don't want a strict LOOGY.