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F4L
06-27-2012, 03:59 PM
Discuss!

Nice to beat down those Twinks!:)

SoxFan49
06-27-2012, 03:59 PM
DFA Ohman soon?

SOXPHILE
06-27-2012, 04:02 PM
Nice. Way to discard of those nasty, moldy Twinkies.

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Lets hope this is the last time we see Ohman throw a pitch in a White Sox uniform.

LITTLE NELL
06-27-2012, 04:02 PM
Great hitting, lets hope we start to hit again like we did in May. Another solid start by Sale.
I've seen enough of Oh-man.

34rancher
06-27-2012, 04:02 PM
DFA Ohman soon?

Can we play Kiss him goodby for our own pitchers?

What a sour note on a great game.

asindc
06-27-2012, 04:02 PM
Is Ohman even capable of pitching a 1-2-3 inning against anyone?

tstrike2000
06-27-2012, 04:02 PM
Nice game, about time we bomb Blackburn, like we should've bombed the guy last night. Get rid of the garbage who finished off the game for us and the day will be complete.

F4L
06-27-2012, 04:03 PM
How about that Youkilis kid?

And doesn't Ron Washington has to consider putting Rios on the All-Star team? Not many OF's in the AL doing more all-around work than Rios right now. The numbers don't lie.

WisSoxFan
06-27-2012, 04:03 PM
Is Ohman even capable of pitching a 1-2-3 inning against anyone?

I'm pretty sure he could get my son's team, of course it's made up of 7-year olds.

Corlose 15
06-27-2012, 04:04 PM
Once Danks and or Humber comes back, there's no way they keep Ohman.

Man is this team feast or famine. 0,8,1,1,3,12 in the last six games. With Floyd pulling out of his nosedive and Peavy, Sale, and Quintana going strong, if they get some offensive consistency they could take off.

Tragg
06-27-2012, 04:04 PM
I wish the rotation would have worked out for Sale to pitch against the Yanks.

Way to pound these ****ers.

LITTLE NELL
06-27-2012, 04:05 PM
I'm pretty sure he could get my son's team, of course it's made up of 7-year olds.

Any older than that, he's in trouble.

Huisj
06-27-2012, 04:06 PM
I'm pretty sure he could get my son's team, of course it's made up of 7-year olds.

It's tough to hit the strike zone against small kids though.

guillensdisciple
06-27-2012, 04:06 PM
I wish the rotation would have worked out for Sale to pitch against the Yanks.

Way to pound these ****ers.

Who. Cares? We're going there up. 2.5 most likely. Just have to split in new York and you're basically guaranteed first place by next week. With 4 of our pitchers coming, we should take two.

Plus Quintana might have something to prove.

34rancher
06-27-2012, 04:07 PM
I'm pretty sure he could get my son's team, of course it's made up of 7-year olds.

I'll say no way for sure then. The strike zone is way smaller on them.

SoxSpeed22
06-27-2012, 04:08 PM
The Twins pitching sucks so it's nice to beat on some mediocre pitchers.
New York will be a challenge though. It might have been nice to see what Sale could do against that lineup.

F4L
06-27-2012, 04:08 PM
Cleveland currently has the bases loaded with 2 outs in the 9th vs. NY. Trailing 5-4. Let's go Yanks!

LITTLE NELL
06-27-2012, 04:08 PM
Who. Cares? We're going there up. 2.5 most likely. Just have to split in new York and you're basically guaranteed first place by next week. With 4 of our pitchers coming, we should take two.

Plus Quintana might have something to prove.

I'm praying for a split.

white sox bill
06-27-2012, 04:08 PM
2 series won in a row!! Happy days are here again! :smile:

SephClone89
06-27-2012, 04:09 PM
Not to beat this into the ground, but the fourteen games under .500 Twins just drew 36k. On a Wednesday afternoon.

Come on.

WisSoxFan
06-27-2012, 04:10 PM
Down go the Indians! It's been a good day.

F4L
06-27-2012, 04:10 PM
Yankees win!

Sox up 2.5 games! Biggest 1st place lead this entire year, correct?

harwar
06-27-2012, 04:10 PM
Cleveland currently has the bases loaded with 2 outs in the 9th vs. NY. Trailing 5-4. Let's go Yanks!

it's a final yankees beat the indians

boiker
06-27-2012, 04:11 PM
Sox win, Tribe loses.:cool:

WisSoxFan
06-27-2012, 04:11 PM
I'll say no way for sure then. The strike zone is way smaller on them.

My son will swing at anything, especially when he's hitting right handed.

guillensdisciple
06-27-2012, 04:11 PM
Not to beat this into the ground, but the fourteen games under .500 Twins just drew 36k. On a Wednesday afternoon.

Come on.

How much do they charge for tickets?

delben91
06-27-2012, 04:12 PM
Not to beat this into the ground, but the fourteen games under .500 Twins just drew 36k. On a Wednesday afternoon.

Come on.

Yes, offense finally wakes up, Sale dominates, Youkilis is hitting, Dunn takes one deep and we go up 2.5 in the division, so let's make sure we find some negative to harp on lest we get too upbeat this afternoon. Thanks for stepping in before we got out of control.

Tragg
06-27-2012, 04:12 PM
Who. Cares? We're going there up. 2.5 most likely. Just have to split in new York and you're basically guaranteed first place by next week. With 4 of our pitchers coming, we should take two.

Plus Quintana might have something to prove.
The season doesn't end next week. We have a hard schedule from now through most of July. Just would have been nice to have our best pitcher for that series.

guillensdisciple
06-27-2012, 04:13 PM
Yes, offense finally wakes up, Sale dominates, Youkilis is hitting, Dunn takes one deep and we go up 2.5 in the division, so let's make sure we find some negative to harp on lest we get too upbeat this afternoon. Thanks for stepping in before we got out of control.

Wouldn't be wsi without some negativity sprinkled in.

I wasn't here for the world series post game thread but I'm sure some negativity got in there too.

SephClone89
06-27-2012, 04:13 PM
Yes, offense finally wakes up, Sale dominates, Youkilis is hitting, Dunn takes one deep and we go up 2.5 in the division, so let's make sure we find some negative to harp on lest we get too upbeat this afternoon. Thanks for stepping in before we got out of control.

I'm aware. It's just something that jumped out at me when I looked at the box score. What more is there to say about how good Sale and the offense were?

October26
06-27-2012, 04:13 PM
Sox win, Tribe loses.:cool:

Best news I've heard so far today. Didn't get to watch the game but loved seeing the Sox score go higher and higher every time I refreshed the MLB app on my phone. :D:

Sox beat the Twins and win the series...oh yeah! :bandance:

GoGoCrede
06-27-2012, 04:14 PM
Heh, heh, heh.

SephClone89
06-27-2012, 04:15 PM
How much do they charge for tickets?

Judging by the dynamic pricing for tomorrow's game and a later game against the Sox, around the same, surprisingly.

34rancher
06-27-2012, 04:15 PM
Not to beat this into the ground, but the fourteen games under .500 Twins just drew 36k. On a Wednesday afternoon.

Come on.
Hey twins fans want to see a first place team. They can now talk about the time they saw 20 hits in one game.
My son will swing at anything, especially when he's hitting right handed.
Hard to swing when you're being hit.

doublem23
06-27-2012, 04:17 PM
Hey twins fans want to see a first place team.

:thumbsup:

hawkjt
06-27-2012, 04:18 PM
Tough day for the Yanks.:smile:...CC goes on the DL and Pettitte fractures his ankle on a liner hit back at him. Yanks had to use Freddie today,instead of Friday vs Quintana,so they are bringing up a rookie named Warden to start Friday instead....can't hurt. Oh,but they did beat the Tribe...thanks,pinstripes.

Meanwhile,the Sox Sexy Hitting Machine got revved up for the first time in weeks....beautiful thing.:D:

Not going waste much time worrying about Oh-man....his performance speaks for him.

Great job by Sale,on a day when he did not have to be razor sharp,he still was very good.
Bullpen should be rested for the Yanks,and Axelrod Day. Very timely break for guys like Addison Reed,Jones,Thornton and Crain.

Now,to that hitting...oh my.
Youk is hitting .420(11 of 26) in his last 7 games...he hot?
Fantastic to see Adam bust out the oppo field stick..maybe it will take.
Everybody in the lineup got a hit or 3...we got by without PK,Tank and Gordo,I guess!

Now, go to NYC and get a couple ..at least!

SOXPHILE
06-27-2012, 04:18 PM
I didn't see this posted anywhere, so:

Twins are crappy, and are perpetual losers.

dwitt76
06-27-2012, 04:26 PM
I will never take a series win in Minny for granted, even if they are in last. :cool:

DeadMoney
06-27-2012, 04:29 PM
Sox Win, Tribe Lose.... Annnd Ohman has been placed on waivers! :bandance::bandance::bandance:

asindc
06-27-2012, 04:29 PM
When was the last time we won two series in a row against the Twinkees?

hawkjt
06-27-2012, 04:29 PM
Breaking news....Ohman placed on waivers,according to Ohman. Not accompanying Sox to NYC....so long Ohman:?:

SOXPHILE
06-27-2012, 04:31 PM
Breaking news....Ohman placed on waivers,according to Ohman. Not accompanying Sox to NYC....so long Ohman:?:

Just heard it on the postgame show. A hat trick for Sox fans:

-Sox beat the hell out of the Twins

-Jnjuns lose, pushing Sox to 2.5 games up

-Bye bye Ohman

voodoochile
06-27-2012, 04:34 PM
Sox win! Toons lose! Dunn goes the other way TWICE! Youkilis gets THREE hits!

Sox blowout the Twinkies IN MINNESOTA!

Extra! Extra! Read all about it! Sox in first place and we gonna shout it! Extra! Extra!

:soxwin:

:)

:supernana: :supernana: :bandance:

bestkosher
06-27-2012, 04:34 PM
Oh.....man!

hawkjt
06-27-2012, 04:34 PM
So, who comes up to replace Ohman? Do we need another lefty?
Bruney is clearly here to stay for the time being.

Who is on the farm,ready to rock?

More good news, Rays rally to tie the Royals with two in the 8th...still threatening with man on third,one out.

Need to push those Royals away a bit,so they are sellers come next month.

WhiteSox5187
06-27-2012, 04:35 PM
Breaking news....Ohman placed on waivers,according to Ohman. Not accompanying Sox to NYC....so long Ohman:?:

Placed on waivers or DFA'd? Because there is a big difference between the two.

soxinem1
06-27-2012, 04:35 PM
Placed on waivers or DFA'd? Because there is a big difference between the two.

Not sure if it matters. No one will place a waiver claim on him and if anyone is interested, they'll wait until he becomes a FA.

The writing was on the wall for Ohman from day one of the season. At least last year he had a fastball. This year he threw softer than Buehrle.... And straighter.

In his defense, he was rarely used as the LOOGY he was intended to be. Ozzie and Robin both tried to make him something he was/is not.

DeadMoney
06-27-2012, 04:36 PM
Just heard it on the postgame show. A hat trick for Sox fans:

-Sox beat the hell out of the Twins

-Jnjuns lose, pushing Sox to 2.5 games up

-Bye bye Ohman

And for some - look what's happening at Clark/Addison.

I feel a bit for Ohman, knowing that he was well liked in the clubhouse, but that's the nature of the game. With Stewart gone, Ohman was the last guy out of the pen. And, as the last guy out of the pen with very little success, his spot was far from guaranteed.

Great day today though... Let's keep it rolling into NY.

Side note: Dunn needs to go on Dan Patrick daily now.

ChiSoxGal85
06-27-2012, 04:37 PM
Breaking news....Ohman placed on waivers,according to Ohman. Not accompanying Sox to NYC....so long Ohman:?:
Where's the Like button?

hawkjt
06-27-2012, 04:37 PM
Placed on waivers or DFA'd? Because there is a big difference between the two.

They said he was placed on waivers,but then indicated his time with the Sox is over,so I guess DFA.

Noneck
06-27-2012, 04:38 PM
1.25M salt and peppered, Oh Man.

kobo
06-27-2012, 04:38 PM
Placed on waivers or DFA'd? Because there is a big difference between the two.
According to Gonzales' twitter, he was waived.

ChiSoxGal85
06-27-2012, 04:38 PM
Placed on waivers or DFA'd? Because there is a big difference between the two.
The Score is saying on waivers; some are tweeting that he's not making the trip to New York.

TomBradley72
06-27-2012, 04:39 PM
Just heard it on the postgame show. A hat trick for Sox fans:

-Sox beat the hell out of the Twins

-Jnjuns lose, pushing Sox to 2.5 games up

-Bye bye Ohman

Looks to me like Robin is not at all afraid to move "dead weight" on the roster- for various reasons we've converted Morel/Fukudome/Lillibridge to Hudson/Jordan Danks/Youkilis and when Danks/Humber come back- we'll have replaced Ohmann and Stewart with Quintana and Bruney- some nice in season upgrades to the overall roster.

SoxFan49
06-27-2012, 04:39 PM
So, who comes up to replace Ohman? Do we need another lefty?
Bruney is clearly here to stay for the time being.

Who is on the farm,ready to rock?

More good news, Rays rally to tie the Royals with two in the 8th...still threatening with man on third,one out.

Need to push those Royals away a bit,so they are sellers come next month.

I say when Danks and Humber come back they stick Humber in the bullpen and make Quintana the full-time starter in the rotation.

WhiteSox5187
06-27-2012, 04:41 PM
According to Gonzales' twitter, he was waived.

If he is placed on waivers and no one claims he could still be on the team though, right? If he is placed on unconditional waivers he is off the team. I thought that is how it works.

Noneck
06-27-2012, 04:43 PM
Will it now be Leesmans time?

kobo
06-27-2012, 04:43 PM
I say when Danks and Humber come back they stick Humber in the bullpen and make Quintana the full-time starter in the rotation.
A SP is not going to lose his spot in the rotation due to injury.

eriqjaffe
06-27-2012, 04:43 PM
Ohman's actually going to be designated for assignment on Thursday, which gives the Sox 10(?) days to trade or release him, IIRC.

Harry Potter
06-27-2012, 04:43 PM
Mark Gonzales ‏@MDGonzales
Correct terminology is that Ohman will be DFA on Thursday

DonnieDarko
06-27-2012, 04:45 PM
Will it now be Leesmans time?

Quintana stays in the rotation when Humber comes back until Danks returns. After that, he probably goes to the minors to stay stretched out. Axelrod goes into the bullpen. Leesman stays in the minors until he can cut down on the walks.

SoxFan49
06-27-2012, 04:46 PM
A SP is not going to lose his spot in the rotation due to injury.

It's not just due to injury, he has an ERA of 6.01 and Quintana has an ERA of 1.25, maybe they go with a 6-man rotation which I doubt. But I think Quintana has proved too much to go back to AAA or the bullpen.

UofCSoxFan
06-27-2012, 04:46 PM
A SP is not going to lose his spot in the rotation due to injury.

Well Humber would have lost his spot weeks ago if Danks wasn't hurt. Quintana deserves to stay in the rotation. Humber has been awful since his perfect game. He'll lose his spot because of ineptness, not injury.

doublem23
06-27-2012, 04:47 PM
Will it now be Leesmans time?

Sox aren't hurting for LHP in the bullpen, maybe Omogrosso, who has supposedly been flirting with 100 MPH as a converted reliever now?

TheOldRoman
06-27-2012, 04:48 PM
Quintana stays in the rotation when Humber comes back until Danks returns. After that, he probably goes to the minors to stay stretched out. Axelrod goes into the bullpen. Leesman stays in the minors until he can cut down on the walks.Thanks. I, and presumably others in this thread, forgot that Humber would be back before Danks. Humber will take Axelrod's spot. It won't be a question of Humber moving to the pen or Quintana going back down until Danks comes off the DL. Hopefully Humber is much improved after getting rid of the nagging injury and the decision becomes a good problem to have.

Noneck
06-27-2012, 04:49 PM
He'll lose his spot because of ineptness, not injury.

And how are you so sure that the ineptness was not caused by injury?

LITTLE NELL
06-27-2012, 04:49 PM
Yankees win!

Sox up 2.5 games! Biggest 1st place lead this entire year, correct?


2.5 up on June 3rd also.

hawkjt
06-27-2012, 04:50 PM
I would be shocked and angry if Quintana is banished from the rotation,unless he blows up completely. He is our best pitcher the last month,and that is saying a lot when you have two Pitchers of the Month alongside him.

Humber goes to long relief when Johnny Danks comes back. Having a sixth starter in the bullpen is a huge luxury in a year when starting pitching is so scarce in MLB. We could go six man rotation in August,to ease the innings count of Sale and Peavy also. Axelrod is the odd man out,eventually.

WhiteSox5187
06-27-2012, 04:54 PM
And how are you so sure that the ineptness was not caused by injury?

Well right now Humber will be taking Axelrod's spot and Quintana is still filling in for Danks. When Danks returns there should be enough info to decide who becomes the long man.

TheOldRoman
06-27-2012, 04:56 PM
I would be shocked and angry if Quintana is banished from the rotation,unless he blows up completely. He is our best pitcher the last month,and that is saying a lot when you have two Pitchers of the Month alongside him.This just made me think, one more good start from Quintana and the Sox may be 3 for 3 in collecting pitcher of the month awards. I don't know who else is pitching well this month, but Quintana over five starts is 1-1 with a 0.96 ERA, 15K, 1BB and a WHIP of 1.10. Wow.

SoxFan49
06-27-2012, 04:56 PM
And how are you so sure that the ineptness was not caused by injury?

I guess we'll find out when he comes back and has a couple of starts before Danks comes back, either way I think if Quintana can keep his ERA at 1 then he deserves to start over Humber.

PalehosePlanet
06-27-2012, 04:56 PM
Sox aren't hurting for LHP in the bullpen, maybe Omogrosso, who has supposedly been flirting with 100 MPH as a converted reliever now?

Yep, Omogrosso would be my choice for the pen also. Leesman can help us if another starter goes down, we need a spot start/double header type of deal, or to ease the load on the rotation later in the year.

Noneck
06-27-2012, 04:57 PM
Well right now Humber will be taking Axelrod's spot and Quintana is still filling in for Danks. When Danks returns there should be enough info to decide who becomes the long man.

All these possibilities are sure nice to have. The more options the better the possibility for success.

SephClone89
06-27-2012, 05:01 PM
Isn't the word "ineptitude?"

doublem23
06-27-2012, 05:05 PM
Isn't the word "ineptitude?"

I would have used ineptitude as well, but ineptness works, too.

Foulke You
06-27-2012, 05:09 PM
Yep, Omogrosso would be my choice for the pen also. Leesman can help us if another starter goes down, we need a spot start/double header type of deal, or to ease the load on the rotation later in the year.
I'm thinking it might be Leyson Septimo or Donnie Veal that get the call. Both are lefty relievers and both have E.R.A.s around 1.50 this season and are doing well. I'm predicting it will be one of those two. The Sox like to keep the extra lefties in the pen because of all the good left handed hitters in our division.

asindc
06-27-2012, 05:10 PM
Ineptivity?

UofCSoxFan
06-27-2012, 05:21 PM
And how are you so sure that the ineptness was not caused by injury?

I don't of course...except that Humber is a journeyman pitcher that put together a half of a good season last year and perfect game this year. If he comes back from injury, and everything goes right, his numbers would still fall short of what Quintana has done. The rule that "you never lose your spot because of injury" isn't actually a rule you know, but I'll give Danks a shot since he actually has a sustained track record of success and is more likely to bounce back.

Humber and Floyd have by far been our worse two pitchers this year. Floyd has been great the past two starts and also has had much more success in the past than Humber, thus Humber is the one that is dropped (unless Floyd falls off a cliff again).

slavko
06-27-2012, 05:23 PM
Mark Gonzales ‏@MDGonzales
Correct terminology is that Ohman will be DFA on Thursday

That's better. Many times a player is put on waivers to see if he's claimed and then pulled back. This is waivers for sending him DFA. $2.5M/yr for can't pitch is a lot of $$$. Esp when we actually have guys in the minors who can pitch a little. We were desperate when we wrote that contract. Can't feel too bad for him. I bet he saved his money and has a nice life ahead of him. Pays to be born lefty.

UofCSoxFan
06-27-2012, 05:24 PM
I would have used ineptitude as well, but ineptness works, too.

Give me a break guys. They both are correct. Ineptness is the core quality of being inept. Ineptitude is an outward display of being inept in a much more acute fashion. I believe Humber, at his core is not a good pitcher. His ineptness was emphasized through his ineptitude displayed in his final few starts. Better?

SoxFan49
06-27-2012, 05:25 PM
Hopefully this day of rest for Konerko can take him out of his slump, he hasn't been hitting well lately but it seems like his power is gone too.

doublem23
06-27-2012, 05:33 PM
When was the last time we won two series in a row against the Twinkees?

Surprisingly the Sox have now won 4 series in a row vs. the Twins and have won 12 of the last 16 games against them.

Before this little streak, though, you'd have to go to May and June of '08 for the last back-to-back 3-game series wins against them.

delben91
06-27-2012, 05:34 PM
Will it now be Leesmans time?

Sox aren't hurting for LHP in the bullpen, maybe Omogrosso, who has supposedly been flirting with 100 MPH as a converted reliever now?

I'm thinking it might be Leyson Septimo or Donnie Veal that get the call. Both are lefty relievers and both have E.R.A.s around 1.50 this season and are doing well. I'm predicting it will be one of those two. The Sox like to keep the extra lefties in the pen because of all the good left handed hitters in our division.

What would it take to acquire these players? I know they can't be in the Sox' farm system as I've seen multiple posters on WSI state that there are absolutely zero players in the Sox system with major-league worthy talent.

Hopefully the teams that control these players will be willing to deal them to the Sox for some of our worthless minor-leaguers...

asindc
06-27-2012, 05:35 PM
Surprisingly the Sox have now won 4 series in a row vs. the Twins and have won 12 of the last 16 games against them

Yeah, the Dome had nothing to do with it.:rip:

hawkjt
06-27-2012, 05:45 PM
I'm thinking it might be Leyson Septimo or Donnie Veal that get the call. Both are lefty relievers and both have E.R.A.s around 1.50 this season and are doing well. I'm predicting it will be one of those two. The Sox like to keep the extra lefties in the pen because of all the good left handed hitters in our division.

Good call. Gonzo just tweeted that one of these two are the likely callups.

TDog
06-27-2012, 05:47 PM
The season doesn't end next week. We have a hard schedule from now through most of July. Just would have been nice to have our best pitcher for that series.

The big picture, though, is that in June/July it as important and perhaps remains more important to beat the Twins than the Yankees. The Yankees don't compete in the same division, alhtough there is a greater chance that if the White Sox are battling for a play-in wild-card berth that they will be battling with the Yankees rather than the Twins.

And really, this wasn't a stressful day for Sale, which may be to his advantage. He pitched seven and left with a lead big enough that the White Sox had the luxury of resting everyone in the bullpen except or the last man. The runs Ohman gave up in saving the bullpen today were exponentially less threatening than the runs Reed gave up Tuesday night.

Tuesday night, but not today, really, the Twins showed that they can be competiive. Monday night, they were all over Peavy early and had their best pitcher going. Those first two innings agaisnt Peavy were the differnce between the Twins winning one of three and being swept. If scoring in the ninth

What was especially nice about the offense today was that much of it came from bench players. Everyone in the lineup, including Flowers who replaced Youkilis late, had at least one hit. Konerko, Viciedo and Beckham got the day off, along with everyone in the bullpen not named Ohman. I liked the two-strike hitting with authority by Pierzynski. I liked Pierzynski throwing out runners on the bases. No game-winning hit today becuase that first run came on an error, but it's nice to see that a day when Ramirez doesn't come through with runners in scoring position, he doesn't need to.

The White Sox coasted after the Dunn/Rios home runs. Blackburn, who came into the game with an ERA over 7 left with an even higher ERA today. I hope he has a strong outing in his next start against the Tigers to make up for today. But the dreaded bench-heavy lineup kept hitting.

And once again, the White Sox have their 2.5-game first place lead back.

thomas35forever
06-27-2012, 05:53 PM
Treat them like the crap they are. Love that philosophy.

TomBradley72
06-27-2012, 06:09 PM
A SP is not going to lose his spot in the rotation due to injury.

But he will from sucking for an extended period of time.

No way Quintana leaves the rotation.

TomBradley72
06-27-2012, 06:13 PM
Give me a break guys. They both are correct. Ineptness is the core quality of being inept. Ineptitude is an outward display of being inept in a much more acute fashion. I believe Humber, at his core is not a good pitcher. His ineptness was emphasized through his ineptitude displayed in his final few starts. Better?

Reminds me of a Don Rickles appearance on the old Dick Van Dyke Show- he kept saying he was inept early in the episode- at the end- he succeeds- and looks at Rob Petrie and says "I'm ept!"

Now- back to Quintana....

Hitmen77
06-27-2012, 06:30 PM
Quintana stays in the rotation when Humber comes back until Danks returns. After that, he probably goes to the minors to stay stretched out. Axelrod goes into the bullpen. Leesman stays in the minors until he can cut down on the walks.

When is Humber expected to return?

Do they have a time estimate for when Danks might return too?

balke
06-27-2012, 06:44 PM
Sox healthy fantasy team:

LINEUP

DeAza
Youkilis
Dunn
Konerko
Rios
AJ
Viciedo
Beckham
Ramirez

Bench: Danks/Escobar/Flowers/Hudson

PITCHING

Sale
Peavy
Danks
Floyd
Humber

Closer: Reed
8th: Crain
RHP: Jones/Axelrod/Bruney
LHP: Santiago/Thornton/Quintana

Long Relief: Quintana

Would they go with 3 lefties if Danks comes back and Quintana is still going like this?


With possibly a guy coming from the minors if Bruney or Axelrod faulter. I like :thumbsup: .

guillensdisciple
06-27-2012, 06:49 PM
Wouldn't making the rotation 6 instead of 5 be something that we want since that will give sale some relief?

Harry Potter
06-27-2012, 06:59 PM
Wouldn't making the rotation 6 instead of 5 be something that we want since that will give sale some relief?

Perhaps, but it didn't have the desired results last year.

doublem23
06-27-2012, 07:14 PM
When is Humber expected to return?

Do they have a time estimate for when Danks might return too?

I believe he is scheduled to throw a minor league rehab game soon and if all goes well he may start the last game of the 1st half so Sale can go to the All-Star game.

Zakath
06-27-2012, 07:19 PM
Good way to go into what's going to be a very tough stretch prior to the All-Star Game, and possibly the stretch that really settles whether or not this is actually a playoff contender. 10 games against arguably the two best teams in baseball and the team that seems to absolutely own us.

While we're in New York for 4 then at home vs. Texas and Toronto for 3 each, the Indians have 4 in Baltimore before heading home for 3 vs. the Angels and 4 vs. Tampa. The Tigers go to Tampa for 4, and then come home for 4 vs. Minnesota and 3 vs. KC. Schedule definitely favors Detroit, who still hasn't found another starter besides Verlander that can win consistently. The Tribe doesn't have a single starter whose ERA is under 4.

TomBradley72
06-27-2012, 07:22 PM
Sox healthy fantasy team:

LINEUP

DeAza
Youkilis
Dunn
Konerko
Rios
AJ
Viciedo
Beckham
Ramirez

Bench: Danks/Escobar/Flowers/Hudson

PITCHING

Sale
Peavy
Danks
Floyd
Humber

Closer: Reed
8th: Crain
RHP: Jones/Axelrod/Bruney
LHP: Santiago/Thornton/Quintana

Long Relief: Quintana

Would they go with 3 lefties if Danks comes back and Quintana is still going like this?


With possibly a guy coming from the minors if Bruney or Axelrod faulter. I like :thumbsup: .

Humber = Long Relief

Quintana stays in rotation-

chisoxfanatic
06-27-2012, 07:30 PM
I had to blink twice when I came home from work and saw 12 runs on 20 hits. Didn't see much of this, so I can't comment. But, I'm SO glad the Dome is done...Sox are 8-2 in their last 10 there.

kittle42
06-27-2012, 08:20 PM
What would it take to acquire these players? I know they can't be in the Sox' farm system as I've seen multiple posters on WSI state that there are absolutely zero players in the Sox system with major-league worthy talent.

Sigh. I'd point out all the things wrong with this, but you already know them.

cards press box
06-27-2012, 08:32 PM
Well right now Humber will be taking Axelrod's spot and Quintana is still filling in for Danks. When Danks returns there should be enough info to decide who becomes the long man.

No way Quintana leaves the rotation.

I can't imagine the Sox pulling Jose Quintana from the rotation. When John Danks comes back, I reckon that the Sox rotation will be:

Sale
Peavy
Danks
Quintana
Floyd

When Phil Humber returns, he will likely be the long man/spot starter. Things are really looking up for the Sox. Oh and lest we forget,

:winner

RCWHITESOX
06-27-2012, 08:35 PM
Nice game, about time we bomb Blackburn, like we should've bombed the guy last night. Get rid of the garbage who finished off the game for us and the day will be complete.

Your day has been completed; now lets hope they either bring up or obtain another quality reliever.

Soxman219
06-27-2012, 08:40 PM
Texas up 4-0 on the Tigers right now. :bandance:

Bucky F. Dent
06-27-2012, 09:43 PM
Felt great for Dunn today after all of the hell he took last year. He earned the hell he got, but none the less, that had to feel good for the big donkey.

SCCWS
06-27-2012, 09:46 PM
Why did Youk come out of the game? Hopefully not an injury.
Also, if theTwins series was televised in Chicago, how has he looked at the plate. He had 5 hits in the series which is a good start from a numbers standpoint.

JB98
06-27-2012, 10:00 PM
Why did Youk come out of the game? Hopefully not an injury.
Also, if theTwins series was televised in Chicago, how has he looked at the plate. He had 5 hits in the series which is a good start from a numbers standpoint.

Because it was 11-2.

SoxFan49
06-27-2012, 10:20 PM
I had to blink twice when I came home from work and saw 12 runs on 20 hits. Didn't see much of this, so I can't comment. But, I'm SO glad the Dome is done...Sox are 8-2 in their last 10 there.

You must've missed something on one of the blinks because we had 21 hits :)

chisoxfanatic
06-27-2012, 10:21 PM
You must've missed something on one of the blinks because we had 21 hits :)
I'm aware of that. But, when I turned it on, there were 20...I fell asleep for about 5 minutes, then there were 21, though!

Railsplitter
06-27-2012, 11:06 PM
Good. Let's leave New York in first place, too.

tstrike2000
06-27-2012, 11:55 PM
Humber = Long Relief

Quintana stays in rotation-

Only way Quintana is not in the rotation is either via injury or the team monitoring his innings.

slavko
06-28-2012, 01:53 AM
Felt great for Dunn today after all of the hell he took last year. He earned the hell he got, but none the less, that had to feel good for the big donkey.

Hope you noticed where all Dunn's hits were aimed today. (LF) OLd Fashioned Recipe for beating a slump.

Crooked Number
06-28-2012, 06:39 AM
Great to build momentum going into the Bronx. Sox played very well there last year, I feel they are in a position to do the same this time. The moves made recently have bolstered the roster in a positive direction.

The Sox have battled their injuries head on and have maintained so far. Some clubs have not faired well with theirs. Time to get on another roll. Hot streak Sox are due.

Chez
06-28-2012, 12:16 PM
Only way Quintana is not in the rotation is either via injury or the team monitoring his innings.

Agreed. But what's going to happen when Sale hits his innings number (rumored to be 160)? Does Sale get shut down for rest of the season? Sent to the bullpen? Pitches every other turn?

kittle42
06-28-2012, 12:54 PM
Agreed. But what's going to happen when Sale hits his innings number (rumored to be 160)? Does Sale get shut down for rest of the season? Sent to the bullpen? Pitches every other turn?

The Nats shut down Zimmermann last year.

doublem23
06-28-2012, 12:59 PM
The Nats shut down Zimmermann last year.

They were also 8 games under .500 and 22.5 games out of 1st place after Zimmermann's last start

DeadMoney
06-28-2012, 01:17 PM
Agreed. But what's going to happen when Sale hits his innings number (rumored to be 160)? Does Sale get shut down for rest of the season? Sent to the bullpen? Pitches every other turn?

The Sox don't seem to have any interest in monitoring pitches/innings. Whether you disagree with it, or not, they seem intent on letting Sale go as far (and as long) as his arm will take him (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/white-sox-let-emerging-ace-chris-sale-test-his-limits.html). According to Hahn (in the article), the Sox will not limit his pitch count or innings "artificially". To me, that says there is absolutely no 'rumored limit' on him (And IMO, nor should there be).

KMcMahon817
06-28-2012, 01:26 PM
The Sox don't seem to have any interest in monitoring pitches/innings. Whether you disagree with it, or not, they seem intent on letting Sale go as far (and as long) as his arm will take him (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/white-sox-let-emerging-ace-chris-sale-test-his-limits.html). According to Hahn (in the article), the Sox will not limit his pitch count or innings "artificially". To me, that says there is absolutely no 'rumored limit' on him (And IMO, nor should there be).

Agreed. He's gunna have to be pitching thru September (and October) if we have any shot of making the playoffs, and doing something while there.

DeadMoney
06-28-2012, 01:29 PM
Agreed. He's gunna have to be pitching thru September (and October) if we have any shot of making the playoffs, and doing something while there.

Exactly. If he's healthy and continues to prove he can handle the load, there's no reason the team should artificially limit him (as Hahn says in the article).

TDog
06-28-2012, 01:43 PM
Only way Quintana is not in the rotation is either via injury or the team monitoring his innings.

Or if the quality of his starts begins to decline sharply. Sometimes rookies, especially southpaws, who don't issue a lot of walks are very difficult against teams that haven't seen them, but they become less effective after they have beein in the league long enough for teams to get a good scouting report on them. There are sometimes other factors contributing to their decline because there can be more wear and demands of starting pitchers at the major league level.

Drew Smyly after Justin Verlander, was the Tigers most consistent starter early in the season. It wasn't until his fifth major league start that he gave up more than one run in a game (perhaps becuase the White Sox are not more challenged than other teams in facing rookie lefties they haven't seen before). That, of course, was in what should have been a loss to the White Sox, but the Tigers won it with two in the ninth against Thornton in relief of Peavy. In Smyly's seventh major league start, he gave up four runs in five innings in a loss to the Whtie Sox for his second major league start giving up more than one run. He has given up at least three earned runs in his six starts since and only has gone six innings twice.

Quintana isn't walking hitters. He isn't consistently getting behind in the count. He gives up quite a few hits but pitches out of trouble. Often rookie pitchers have difficulty out of the stretch, which can lead to big innings. Quintana looks like he belongs in a major league rotation and knows how to pitch. But that doesn't mean he will be equally effective in August.

kittle42
06-28-2012, 01:49 PM
They were also 8 games under .500 and 22.5 games out of 1st place after Zimmermann's last start

So you're saying there was a chance...

Hitmen77
06-28-2012, 03:35 PM
Good. Let's leave New York in first place, too.

Amazing that the Sox lead Cleveland by 2.5 and Detroit by 4 after playing rather mediocre baseball since June 2. They've been given a golden opportunity to get their act together.

The schedule gets tougher now for the next month. 2 series wins in a row is a good start. They're going to have to play better vs. NY and Texas, though.

I think the key to this season's success will be whether Konerko's wrist gets better and if John Danks comes back healthy.