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all*star quentin
06-07-2012, 10:34 PM
Only thing different between this team and every other team in baseball. Day Games says Kerry Wood, is a big factor for the Cubs 106 year drought.
Not so much from a pitchers standpoint, but a position player has to go out there every single day. When coming back from a road trip they're at the field at 8 A.M. You're body just doesn't recover.

guillensdisciple
06-07-2012, 10:53 PM
Only thing different between this team and every other team in baseball. Day Games says Kerry Wood, is a big factor for the Cubs 106 year drought.
Not so much from a pitchers standpoint, but a position player has to go out there every single day. When coming back from a road trip they're at the field at 8 A.M. You're body just doesn't recover.

Yes, but that accounts for one game in a series. Of which, they will probably win 20 to 25 in a year even if they are mediocre. Those other 110 games they'll play- what about them?

slavko
06-07-2012, 11:40 PM
By the same logic, Kerry, every team that came to town during a homestand, having gotten used to playing night games in other cities, would have to be on the field at 8 AM as well. This should be a big advantage for the Cubs. We're talking pennant, baby.

Noneck
06-07-2012, 11:49 PM
Or maybe its hitting the party scene 4 hours earlier, staying out like you played a night game and having to return to the park at 8am.

amsteel
06-08-2012, 12:00 AM
Kerry realizes that the other team has to play during the day too, right?

WhiteSox5187
06-08-2012, 12:24 AM
Kerry realizes that the other team has to play during the day too, right?

And more often than not they are the ones that are coming in from out of town! The day game argument might have held water back in 1969 or something but now? Please, the Cubs hardly play any day games it seems like except for Fridays. They play day games on Saturdays and Sundays but it seems like most teams do too.

SoxSpeed22
06-08-2012, 01:17 AM
In Texas, playing in that intensive heat is a plausible reason for their problems, but they have had much better teams.
If you ask me, the therapeutic facilities might not be as good in a stadium that's way too old compared to newer stadiums. That way, players have more nagging injuries that can eventually turn worse.

TDog
06-08-2012, 02:34 AM
For more than a quarter century after the Cubs won their last World Series, no one played night baseball in the National League. The first night game was in 1935. It wasn't until the 1940s that night baseball became common. The Cubs in the post World War II years didn't even field a contender until 1967, and no one would have argued that they could be one if they played their games at night.

In 1969, though, day baseball got a lot of blame for the Cubs' collapse, capped off by a 9-18 (maybe it was 8-17) September. Playing all their home games out in the summer sun drained them. It didn't help that Leo Durocher rarely rested his regulars and even had Randly Hundley catch in more than 150 games. Fortunately, the diabetic who played 160 games that season didn't have cause to click his heals much on the way to the clubhouse in September.

Then 1984 came along, and the Cubs won two day games against the Padres in Wrigley and had to win only of three in San Diego to go to the World Series. After two night losses, the Cubs had a late 3-0 lead on an idyllic San Diego Sunday afternoon when bad stuff started to happen.

Then the Cubs got lights. They play a lot of night games now. In 2003, they were five outs away and playing at night at home. The next night, Kerry Wood got knocked around, and the drought continued.

Nine years later, a retired Kerry Wood is once again calling out the day games?


What?

Dan H
06-08-2012, 07:41 AM
The Cubs and their fans have plenty of excuses. Some still blame Bartman even though the team hasn't won a playoff game since then.

The excuses are boring. They and their so-called traditions stink. They will always stink even if they finally win something which probably won't be for at least a few more decades.

Kerry Wood sounds like a crybaby.

cws05champ
06-08-2012, 07:50 AM
In Texas, playing in that intensive heat is a plausible reason for their problems, but they have had much better teams.
If you ask me, the therapeutic facilities might not be as good in a stadium that's way too old compared to newer stadiums. That way, players have more nagging injuries that can eventually turn worse.
I was listening to an interview on MLB radio with Phil Coke. He said he was looking forward to going to Wrigley Field as he has never been there before....he even said on off days playing the White sox he considered taking a Wrigley tour.

The commentator said "We'll see how you feel about it when you go in there as a player.....do you enjoy camping?"

Golden Sox
06-08-2012, 09:04 AM
The bad guys have always made excuses for their lack of success. My favorite excuse from them came in 2004. After losing in the playoffs in 2003, they upgraded their team and told everybody 2004 was the year they were going to the World Series. Turns out they didn't have the year they thought they would and didn't even make the playoffs. The Cub players then blamed their 2 TV announcers, Steve Stone and Chip Caray for not making the playoffs. The Cubs ownership went along with this nonsense and neither Caray or Stone ever worked for the Cubs again. What amazed me about the whole incident of their crybaby act of blaming their TV announcers was the complete silence from the Chicago media about their crybaby act. I thought for sure that at least Jay Mariotti ( The Count Dracula of Chicago Sports journalism) would dump on the Cubs, but even he didn't say anything. Believe me, if the White Sox would of ever blamed their TV announcers for their lack of success, the Chicago media would dump all over them.

RedHeadPaleHoser
06-08-2012, 09:28 AM
IIRC, Game 6 and Game 7 of the 2003 NLCS were night games. Both games that the Cubs lost.

Shut up, Kerry.

Foulke You
06-08-2012, 09:55 AM
And more often than not they are the ones that are coming in from out of town! The day game argument might have held water back in 1969 or something but now? Please, the Cubs hardly play any day games it seems like except for Fridays. They play day games on Saturdays and Sundays but it seems like most teams do too.
Correct. The Cubs play quite a few night home games now. Most of the Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday home games are night games. Also, because of the FOX national blackout rules, many teams play day games on Saturdays now including the Sox.

cub killer
06-08-2012, 04:31 PM
Excuses, excuses. :rolleyes:

The reason that the flubs haven't won a WS since 1908, is because in every single season since then, they simply have not been good enough to get the job done.

Worst streak in worldwide sports. They have no one to blame but themselves.

Steelrod
06-08-2012, 04:35 PM
And the Rangers haven't a chance due to playing in extreme heat, which apparently doesn't affect the opposition.

cards press box
06-08-2012, 05:03 PM
I agree with Wood's day game theory. The problem is not the day games themselves but the fact that the players' body clocks change every couple of weeks.

Put it this way: imagine that every week, you switch from working a 9:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. shift to an 11:00 p.m. to 7:00 a.m. shift and the following week, you shift back. Can you imagine how tired you would feel all the time? Now, if every team in MLB played under such conditions, then it wouldn't make any difference. But the Cubs are still the only team to do so and it has cost them dearly on the field.

Of course, the Cubs have benefited from P.K. Wrigley's long-time eccentric position on lights. One advantage the Cubs have in attendance is based on the loyalty of many Cub fans aged 30-65 who got hooked on the Cubs because they got hooked watching the Cubs on t.v. after school.

The Cubs really do have a dilemma. They have a massive financial advantage due to the uniqueness of day baseball and the so-called uniqueness of Wrigley Field. But that unique same day baseball makes it very difficult for them to compete on the field.

For the Cubs to have the success on the field that other franchises have enjoyed, they would have to give up their unique position and the cash cow known as Wrigley. This problem must drive Cub fans nuts.

Lip Man 1
06-08-2012, 05:10 PM
The Cubs for years have been trying to get away from having to play afternoon games and add more nights games but they can't because of neighborhood restrictions and city laws.

To bad, so sad...LOL.

And the Cubs (Wrigley) was ready to add lights right before World War II started. When that happened Wrigley (to his credit) thought the steel to be used was needed more for the military than for his baseball club. Why he didn't put lights up immediately after World War II I have no idea.

Lip

fram40
06-10-2012, 10:31 AM
I agree with Wood's day game theory. The problem is not the day games themselves but the fact that the players' body clocks change every couple of weeks.

Put it this way: imagine that every week, you switch from working a 9:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. shift to an 11:00 p.m. to 7:00 a.m. shift and the following week, you shift back. Can you imagine how tired you would feel all the time? Now, if every team in MLB played under such conditions, then it wouldn't make any difference. But the Cubs are still the only team to do so and it has cost them dearly on the field.

Bull****! absolute bull****. This might be true for middle-aged, out of shape people, but I disagree when the people in question are elite professional athletes in their prime. Of course calling any Cubs player "elite" is probably a misnomer.

The Cubs have sucked for so long because they have over-rated their prospects and the so-called superstars (despite their HOF bona fides) are a bunch of overrated losers who choked under the pressure.

PatK
06-11-2012, 02:14 PM
IIRC, Game 6 and Game 7 of the 2003 NLCS were night games. Both games that the Cubs lost.

Shut up, Kerry.

Not to mention the highlight game of his career, the 20 strikeout game, was a day game.