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Moses_Scurry
04-24-2012, 09:12 AM
I've asked this question in years past, and it's always interesting to see the answer unfold. A few years ago, Milwaukee and Texas were on the list and Minnesota was nowhere near it.

My vote goes to the Padres. They were somewhat close a couple years ago, and they always seem to build up for a 2-3 year run. The extra wildcard only helps their chances. Plus, I still think the NL West is a weak division. The AL East and West teams on the list will have a very hard time overtaking the other teams in their divisions. The Royals will probably get some votes, but I just can't go with them.

DonnieDarko
04-24-2012, 09:13 AM
My vote goes to the Mariners. If they can just get their guys to hit, they've got the pitching staff to at least get into the playoffs in my mind. How far they go after that point is anyone's guess.

Vestigio
04-24-2012, 10:25 AM
I voted Pirates. They have some decent bats, but they need atleast one more quality SP if they are to compete in the weak NL Central. I can see them managing to win the wildcard within the next 3 to four years.

Max Power
04-24-2012, 10:26 AM
Off the top of my head:

Padres - Just missed the playoffs are recently as two years ago. NL West appears to lack a dominate team for now.
Pirates - Rumor is they're slowly headed in the right direction. NL Central doesn't appear to be terribly strong in the near future.
Mets - Now that Wilpon's Madoff issues have been resolved he can get back to worrying about the Mets. In the meantime the rest of the division has passed them by though.
Athletics - I don't see them doing anything beyond trying to be competitive for cheap until their stadium situation is resolved.
Mariners - They have some nice young players and have shown a willingness to spend money in the past.
Royals - I thought this was their year? Or is it next year? I can't keep up.
Twins - Bottoming out.
Orioles - Since it's impossible to make the playoffs finishing fifth in a division, it's going to be awhile.
Astros - They're a long way from the playoffs, and moving to the AL isn't going to help matters.

I think the Mariners are the best team on the list. They have to battle with the Rangers and Angles though. I know it's possible for three teams from one division to make the playoffs, but that seems unlikely.

It comes down to the Padres, Pirates, and, maybe, the Royals to me. I have no faith in the Pirates or Royals so I'll vote for the Padres.

moochpuppy
04-24-2012, 10:52 AM
Hmmm....there seems to be a team missing from this poll. :smile:

asindc
04-24-2012, 10:56 AM
I voted Mets because I think they are most likely to do a quick turnaround. I know that there are lingering Madoff issues, but now that they know what they are working with, they can get back on track somewhat more quickly than the others.

doublem23
04-24-2012, 10:59 AM
I voted Mets because I think they are most likely to do a quick turnaround. I know that there are lingering Madoff issues, but now that they know what they are working with, they can get back on track somewhat more quickly than the others.

That's who I voted for, too. I think it would have to be a National League team, which doesn't have the same kind of superpowers that AL does. Between the Yankees, Red Sox, Rangers, and Angels, that's potentially 4 of the 5 playoff spots seemingly every year. I know the Mets are kind of a joke right now, but they've got the resources to turn it around faster than probably any one else and the Phillies are starting to look their age, the Braves have yet to really put it all together, and the Marlins are still a mystery.

DSpivack
04-24-2012, 01:29 PM
I voted Mets because I think they are most likely to do a quick turnaround. I know that there are lingering Madoff issues, but now that they know what they are working with, they can get back on track somewhat more quickly than the others.

That's who I voted for, too. I think it would have to be a National League team, which doesn't have the same kind of superpowers that AL does. Between the Yankees, Red Sox, Rangers, and Angels, that's potentially 4 of the 5 playoff spots seemingly every year. I know the Mets are kind of a joke right now, but they've got the resources to turn it around faster than probably any one else and the Phillies are starting to look their age, the Braves have yet to really put it all together, and the Marlins are still a mystery.

The Mets are in now what may be the toughest division in baseball. Plus I don't see the Wilpons being able to up payroll to match that market anywhere in the near future.

Because of that, I voted for San Diego. Weak division and they have some good young talent--that Latos trade certainly helped.

Moses_Scurry
04-24-2012, 07:20 PM
Hmmm....there seems to be a team missing from this poll. :smile:

I tried to only include teams that are either in the middle of a long run of futility (Royals, Pirates, Orioles) or in the early stages of what looks to be a long run of futility (Twins, Mets).

I thought about including the cubbies, but didn't for no real reason. I guess I just didn't want to acknowledge their existence.

soxnut1018
04-24-2012, 07:54 PM
I voted for the Mariners because their potential rotation in two to three years is scary good.

palehozenychicty
04-24-2012, 09:28 PM
I voted Mets because I think they are most likely to do a quick turnaround. I know that there are lingering Madoff issues, but now that they know what they are working with, they can get back on track somewhat more quickly than the others.

The division is a lot better now than their last bit of relevance in '06-08.

Washington, Miami, Atlanta, and The Phils are still a lot more talented.

palehozenychicty
04-24-2012, 09:31 PM
I think Seattle and Kansas City will get better. KC is struggling, as we know now, but they were still a year or two away. .500 was the stretch maximum to expect, with no pitching staff.

DSpivack
04-24-2012, 09:54 PM
I think Seattle and Kansas City will get better. KC is struggling, as we know now, but they were still a year or two away. .500 was the stretch maximum to expect, with no pitching staff.

I do think the Mariners will improve, but they'll still have to compete with the likes of Los Angeles of Anaheim and Texas.

The Padres have less daunting competition in the Giants, Diamondbacks, Rockies and Dodgers; although perhaps the new ownership group will help the latter (though I'm rather skeptical if that sale turns out to have been as leveraged as I've read about).

asindc
04-25-2012, 09:38 AM
The Mets are in now what may be the toughest division in baseball. Plus I don't see the Wilpons being able to up payroll to match that market anywhere in the near future.

Because of that, I voted for San Diego. Weak division and they have some good young talent--that Latos trade certainly helped.

The division is a lot better now than their last bit of relevance in '06-08.

Washington, Miami, Atlanta, and The Phils are still a lot more talented.

I'm not that high on Philly and Atlanta. Philly's lineup is ageing and injured, and Atlanta's pitching was never as good long-term as it seemed the first four months of last season. I would not be surprised to see any of the four teams besides the Mets win that division this year, but that is only because each team has major flaws that the other teams can exploit. I expect Philly to continue to decline, Atlanta to continue to have pitching problems, and Washington and Miami to go through growing pains. The Mets don't have to increase payroll to improve the roster, they just have to make enough shrewd moves. I don't think they are that far behind the other four.

Lip Man 1
04-25-2012, 12:35 PM
Given the circumstances I have a hard time seeing how any of these clubs have any chance to make the playoffs in the foreseeable future.

Lip

russ99
04-26-2012, 08:18 AM
Had to give the Astros a lone vote.

But I'll pick Mets first, since they're still a big market team and can invest in better players more quickly than the other teams on the list.

Also we know not to underestimate how quickly the Twins can turn things around.

Moses_Scurry
04-26-2012, 09:07 AM
[QUOTE=Lip Man 1;2920454]Given the circumstances I have a hard time seeing how any of these clubs have any chance to make the playoffs in the foreseeable future.

Lip[/]

It wasn't to long ago that I posted this poll, and the then Devil Rays were voted the least likely of the group with zero votes. There was simply no way possible for them to ever make it with the YANKEES or RED SOX in the same division. Since then, they've been to a World Series and the postseason three times including two division winners.

Moses_Scurry
10-07-2012, 07:40 PM
THought I would resurrect this thread that I started before this season. I would have never guessed in a million years that Baltimore would be the answer (since they clinched before Oakland). Oakland was a surprise, but I was less surprised by them than Baltimore since Oakland has at least made the postseason somewhat recently. Next year some new teams will have to fill in the spots previously occupied by Baltimore and Oakland.

Amazing kudos to the 2 people that selected Baltimore. I need next week's lottery numbers from you ASAP!!!