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soxinem1
04-14-2012, 05:54 PM
Another nice, team effort!!

:bandance::bandance:

Let's go for the sweep tomorrow!!

Broccoli Rob
04-14-2012, 05:55 PM
http://i.imgur.com/8ws4n.jpg

russ99
04-14-2012, 05:55 PM
Woo hoo!! Go Sox! :gulp:

4 in a row, make it 5 tomorrow, when I'm there. :D:

soxnut1018
04-14-2012, 05:56 PM
And the good pitching continues. Winning is fun.

Tlou_2lMLAc

BigHurt3515
04-14-2012, 05:58 PM
I love winning!!
Great game!

gf2020
04-14-2012, 05:58 PM
What a nice feeling to beat these guys.

Frater Perdurabo
04-14-2012, 05:59 PM
Really impressed with this team. They are following the same formula as the 1990 and 2005 clubs.

This team just seems to exude class and professionalism all the way around, reflecting Robin's reputation.

The better Robin looks, the more lazy, self-centered and undisciplined our previous manager looks by comparison.

ChiSoxGal85
04-14-2012, 05:59 PM
Great win! Solid effort by Floyd to get out of a bases loaded jam twice, if I recall correctly. A little timely hitting and great D, and it's all good.

A sweep tomorrow would be sweet! Go Sox!

KnightSox
04-14-2012, 06:00 PM
Defense defense defense.

October26
04-14-2012, 06:00 PM
Fun game to watch, fun win! :wooty:Keep it going tomorrow, boys!

veeter
04-14-2012, 06:01 PM
Pitching, defense and timely hitting baby!!!

JB98
04-14-2012, 06:02 PM
That's 4-0 against AL Central opponents.

Just for the record, last year the Sox didn't earn their fourth win against the AL Central until May 18.

MtGrnwdSoxFan
04-14-2012, 06:02 PM
So, this is the worst team in the division, huh?

Frater Perdurabo
04-14-2012, 06:03 PM
That's 4-0 against AL Central opponents.

Just for the record, last year the Sox didn't earn their fourth win against the AL Central until May 18.

As I recall we also sucked at home early last year. Good to see we're establishing home field advantage as well.

Soxman219
04-14-2012, 06:03 PM
Don't know how much times I'll get to say this. OUR WHITE SOX ARE IN FIRST PLACE!!:bandance::bandance::bandance::bandance::ba ndance::bandance:
Go for the sweep in the red unis tomorrow!

SoxSpeed22
04-14-2012, 06:04 PM
First place, hooray! :bandance:
A 5-2 start against the ALCS participants from last year, and Cleveland, is always nice. The pitching is attacking the hitters and the power came through today. Even though they are striking out more, it beats the hell out of popping up, or a weak grounder on the first or second pitch.
And where did Thorny get that changeup from?

voodoochile
04-14-2012, 06:04 PM
Every single starter reached base once and only Flowers and Morel reached base twice yet the Sox managed to score 5 runs.

Another fine pitching effort against a tough offense.

It's fun to win games early in the year they make more seem possible...

:soxwin:

:supernana:

:)

A. Cavatica
04-14-2012, 06:04 PM
Really impressed with this team. They are following the same formula as the 1990 and 2005 clubs.

This team just seems to exude class and professionalism all the way around, reflecting Robin's reputation.

The better Robin looks, the more lazy, self-centered and undisciplined our previous manager looks by comparison.

Teams always seem to play better when a bad manager is shown the door.

doublem23
04-14-2012, 06:05 PM
As I recall we also sucked at home early last year. Good to see we're establishing home field advantage as well.

Not to mention it's nice to get off to a good start. Seems like the last 2-3 seasons they were already 10 games out of 1st by May 1

Noneck
04-14-2012, 06:08 PM
Its still very early but a fast start is what this club and ownership needs.

Frater Perdurabo
04-14-2012, 06:09 PM
The last time they had a good start was 2006. Even in 2008 they had a lousy April and didn't really get rolling until mid-May, right around the time my son was born.

Frater Perdurabo
04-14-2012, 06:11 PM
Its still very early but a fast start is what this club and ownership needs.

I hope this hot start continues and induces more fans to show up. It would be nice to have some payroll space available to add at the deadline if necessary.

chisoxfanatic
04-14-2012, 06:13 PM
That's 4-0 against AL Central opponents.

Just for the record, last year the Sox didn't earn their fourth win against the AL Central until May 18.
And, as we all know, winning your divisional games goes a long way to winning your division.

This team's looking better than I thought.

RCWHITESOX
04-14-2012, 06:14 PM
As I have said before this team is going to be alot better than most people thought. It's obvious that under new leadership this team has a new attitude This team comes to the park prepared to play good fundamental baseball ;something that was surely missing last year Go Sox!

cheezheadsoxfan
04-14-2012, 06:21 PM
Really impressed with this team. They are following the same formula as the 1990 and 2005 clubs.

This team just seems to exude class and professionalism all the way around, reflecting Robin's reputation.

The better Robin looks, the more lazy, self-centered and undisciplined our previous manager looks by comparison.

He Who Shall Not Be Named!! :tongue:
I'm seriously giddy so far. I know, I know, it's early but....:bliss:
"Enjoy every sandwich" – Warren Zevon

voodoochile
04-14-2012, 06:22 PM
As I have said before this team is going to be alot better than most people thought. It's obvious that under new leadership this team has a new attitude This team comes to the park prepared to play good fundamental baseball ;something that was surely missing last year Go Sox!

I think they are just happy that the circus left town and Robin still seems like a fun guy to play for, just much more stable and not nearly as ego driven. Team is free to focus on baseball and that seems to be what they are doing.

Tragg
04-14-2012, 06:22 PM
I understand why some prognosticators picked us to fall off the face of the earth: there is often some team, usually fairly veteran, that under-performs April-July, then basically quits in August and September as they bring up minor leaguers. The baseball writers community has no respect for our minor leaguers, we're a veteran team, so we were their choice.
But, as usual, they under-rate our starting pitching and completely ignore defense.
I like the way Ventura uses our bullpen. There's no defined "7th inning guy", "8th inning guy"...this creates more flexibility and keeps all the pitchers alert and comfortable to pitch in any inning.
The only specialist is Ohman, and it's refreshing that Ventura realizes that (his predecessor did not). Also refreshing is the absence of useless veterans on this team whose current production could easily be replicated by younger players who also have worlds more potential.

TDog
04-14-2012, 06:25 PM
Another great win, if not grindy, at least another that the team grinded out.

You couldn't say that Floyd had a better game than Peavy did Friday. Floyd didn't make it to the seventh and twice pitched out of bases-loaded, two out situations. But rating one start ahead of the other is irrelevant as good as they were.

Obviously, Floyd wasn't going to let Young beat him, although I wouldn't rate him the scariest hitting in the lineup. Still, no one else produced against Floyd except for Jackson leading off innings with two-strike hits. For the second afternoon in the row, the Tigers got no hits with runners in scoring position. But today, the Tigers got no hits with runners on base.

If today's pitching effort was more impressive than yesterday's, it isn't that the Tigers scored fewer runs, but that the defense wasn't called upon to make any game saving plays. Floyd's problem in Texas was the home run ball. Today, his breaking pitches were nasty, and today, if I counted correctly, the Tigers only hit two fly ball outs against Floyd.

The Sox caught a break when the starter was hit in the dugout with a Fielder fould line drive. They already had a 2-0 lead at that point, despite the good start. No big innings, for the Sox, just scoring in five of their eight innings at the plate, four times with two out. Most impressive was not the home runs but De Aza tripling home a run against the southpaw brought in to face him and Dunn driving a pitch into the gap with a runner on third and less than two outs.

Of the eight White Sox hits, two were singles.

And unlike a year ago on the first home Saturday when Thornton came in and failed to protect a ninth-inning lead against the Rays in what would have been the fifth White Sox win against two losses, Thornton today just got the job done. No dropped fly balls in left. No nothing.

I am guessing that the Cell is going to play smaller when summer heats up, but the White Sox are beginning the season playing some solid baseball.

HomeFish
04-14-2012, 06:26 PM
White Sox have been terrible on Sunday in the last decade. Let's hope that changes.

LITTLE NELL
04-14-2012, 06:28 PM
White Sox have been terrible on Sunday in the last decade. Let's hope that changes.

Because stupid Ozzie always had a horrible lineup on Sundays.
Tomorrow this changes and we get the sweep.

RKMeibalane
04-14-2012, 06:34 PM
Because stupid Ozzie always had a horrible lineup on Sundays.
Tomorrow this changes and we get the sweep.

:jerry

"Don't forget about my Southpaw Wrecking Crew lineup!"

Lip Man 1
04-14-2012, 06:35 PM
This team will go as far as the pitching will take them, and right now the pitching is on fire. Best bullpen in the league right now stat wise.

A 5-2 start with five of those games against Texas and Detroit is tremendous.

Now the Sox have to avoid losing to predicted garbage teams like Baltimore, Seattle and Oakland. That has been a real issue for them (losing games to bad teams) since 2006.(at least)

If they can do that they can have a better start to the year than anybody was expecting.

Lip

Sad
04-14-2012, 06:38 PM
:bandance:

what a great 2 games-
Don't Stop Now Boys!

Let's get out the brooms tomorrow!

BigKlu59
04-14-2012, 06:39 PM
This team will go as far as the pitching will take them, and right now the pitching is on fire. Best bullpen in the league right now stat wise.

A 5-2 start with five of those games against Texas and Detroit is tremendous.

Now the Sox have to avoid losing to predicted garbage teams like Baltimore, Seattle and Oakland. That has been a real issue for them (losing games to bad teams) since 2006.(at least)

If they can do that they can have a better start to the year than anybody was expecting.

Lip

Its the pinstripes.... Burn those black softball batting practice uni's.. Its great to watch a game with the home whites and the visitors wearing the grays.. No, I'm not a purist... Go Sox!!!! Loving the run out of the gate..

BK59

asindc
04-14-2012, 06:50 PM
Its the pinstripes.... Burn those black softball batting practice uni's.. Its great to watch a game with the home whites and the visitors wearing the grays.. No, I'm not a purist... Go Sox!!!! Loving the run out of the gate..

BK59

Here here!!

SI1020
04-14-2012, 06:53 PM
Floyd's problem in Texas was the home run ball. Today, his breaking pitches were nasty, and today, if I counted correctly, the Tigers only hit two fly ball outs against Floyd.
I agree. When Floyd has his really good curve ball he is one of the nastiest pitchers in MLB. When it flattens out or he has trouble locating it that's a different story.

Zakath
04-14-2012, 06:54 PM
This team will go as far as the pitching will take them, and right now the pitching is on fire. Best bullpen in the league right now stat wise.

A 5-2 start with five of those games against Texas and Detroit is tremendous.

Now the Sox have to avoid losing to predicted garbage teams like Baltimore, Seattle and Oakland. That has been a real issue for them (losing games to bad teams) since 2006.(at least)

If they can do that they can have a better start to the year than anybody was expecting.

Lip

Baltimore got us at home at a really bad time last year, right after the disastrous road trip to Tampa/Detroit/New York in late April where we went 3-8, which had followed the bullpen implosion against the A's and the sweep by the Angels.

No Vlad for the O's any more, but unfortunately, they still have Markakis, who hits better against us than any other AL team. We always do seem to find ways to blow games against them.

ChicagoG19
04-14-2012, 07:01 PM
Baltimore got us at home at a really bad time last year, right after the disastrous road trip to Tampa/Detroit/New York in late April where we went 3-8, which had followed the bullpen implosion against the A's and the sweep by the Angels.

No Vlad for the O's any more, but unfortunately, they still have Markakis, who hits better against us than any other AL team. We always do seem to find ways to blow games against them.

The team is different this year. We don't need Batman, we got Robin.

asindc
04-14-2012, 07:01 PM
Baltimore got us at home at a really bad time last year, right after the disastrous road trip to Tampa/Detroit/New York in late April where we went 3-8, which had followed the bullpen implosion against the A's and the sweep by the Angels.

No Vlad for the O's any more, but unfortunately, they still have Markakis, who hits better against us than any other AL team. We always do seem to find ways to blow games against them.

Most of that was due to them having Jenks' number. I think Roberts, Mora, and Jones all have hit well over .300 against Bobby for their careers.

Hendu
04-14-2012, 07:03 PM
Really impressed with this team. They are following the same formula as the 1990 and 2005 clubs.

This team just seems to exude class and professionalism all the way around, reflecting Robin's reputation.

The better Robin looks, the more lazy, self-centered and undisciplined our previous manager looks by comparison.

I know it's early in the season and we're going to have our downs, but so far I totally agree. It's like a dark cloud has lifted, and this team is fun to watch again. Of course, having some great starting pitching always helps!

WisSoxFan
04-14-2012, 07:20 PM
I know it's early in the season and we're going to have our downs, but so far I totally agree. It's like a dark cloud has lifted, and this team is fun to watch again. Of course, having some great starting pitching always helps!

Maybe we're all projecting how we feel about this team since the one who will not be mentioned left, but it sure seems to be true just watching them. I hope that's the case because it's fun to "like" my favorite team again - if that makes sense.

Wedema
04-14-2012, 07:21 PM
Any word on Floyd's condition after being hit by the line drive in the dugout?

WisSoxFan
04-14-2012, 07:23 PM
Any word on Floyd's condition after being hit by the line drive in the dugout?

Unless I missed something in wasn't Floyd, it was their starter.

doublem23
04-14-2012, 07:25 PM
Any word on Floyd's condition after being hit by the line drive in the dugout?

Unless I missed something in wasn't Floyd, it was their starter.

Yeah, it was Wilk who took the Prince Fielder screamer to the arm. He has a left arm bruise but Detroit expected him to make his next start.

TDog
04-14-2012, 07:28 PM
This team will go as far as the pitching will take them, and right now the pitching is on fire. Best bullpen in the league right now stat wise.

A 5-2 start with five of those games against Texas and Detroit is tremendous.

Now the Sox have to avoid losing to predicted garbage teams like Baltimore, Seattle and Oakland. That has been a real issue for them (losing games to bad teams) since 2006.(at least)

If they can do that they can have a better start to the year than anybody was expecting.

Lip

Detroit has lost two games to a predicted-garbage team this weekend after sweeping the mighty Red Sox last weekend.

Wedema
04-14-2012, 07:33 PM
Yeah, it was Wilk who took the Prince Fielder screamer to the arm. He has a left arm bruise but Detroit expected him to make his next start.

Thanks, that is good news. When I got to my car after the game, I caught the end of Rongey talking about it on the postgame show and just assumed that he was talking about Floyd.

aryzner
04-14-2012, 07:39 PM
Sure feels good to say "First place Chicago White Sox."

I hope it lasts. :D:

fram40
04-14-2012, 08:19 PM
5 - 2 First Place White Sox!!

all*star quentin
04-14-2012, 08:42 PM
That's the Gavin Floyd, I know. Off to a great start. :gulp:

FielderJones
04-14-2012, 08:56 PM
Appreciate first place!

:gosox:

Moses_Scurry
04-14-2012, 09:13 PM
I like first place, and I hope to stay there for awhile.

thomas35forever
04-14-2012, 09:14 PM
My dad surprised me by taking me to the game today. Sat by the right field foul pole and had a clear view of De Aza's triple. My first day game since '06 and well worth it.

Floyd had to be giving Coop ulcers with his lack of control at times, but the way he pitched over everything was just unbelievable. As long as we get results, I'm happy.

And Flowers just KILLED that ball. Nobody in the park cheered right away because they couldn't believe that he of all people sent it over 420 feet. Keep making the most of your time Tyler and you'll be doing that a lot more for us in the future.

All in all, a great day to take in a game. Hope I won't have to wait too long for the next one.

SCCWS
04-14-2012, 09:41 PM
DeAza has been very involved offensively so far. Hopefully the team will get some production from the 9th and 2nd batters around him. Texas and Detroit are quality teams to beat. Bring your brooms tomorrow.

soxfan26
04-14-2012, 09:45 PM
Love a White Sox winner!!

Lorenzo Barcelo
04-14-2012, 10:09 PM
Its the pinstripes.... Burn those black softball batting practice uni's.. Its great to watch a game with the home whites and the visitors wearing the grays.. No, I'm not a purist... Go Sox!!!! Loving the run out of the gate..

BK59

The black jerseys are my favorite and I hate the stirrup look. :duck:

hawkjt
04-14-2012, 10:14 PM
All four of the Sox starters have a victory now....none of the Tigers have a win yet.

Gavin clearly did not have good command today,but he managed to give us a chance to win on a day he did not have his good stuff...me likey.
The way you pull that off is to make big pitches in key situations,and he did.

Getting on the board first is huge in these kinds of games and like Dayan did yesterday, Alexei did it today....nice job Alexei!!

DeAza has been great. Dunn pitched in today. PK is still on a 162 rbi pace,and Morel is starting to click. All good.

I have a lot of faith in Sale after only one start...hope he validates it tomorrow.

ChiSoxGirl
04-14-2012, 11:02 PM
That's 4-0 against AL Central opponents.

Just for the record, last year the Sox didn't earn their fourth win against the AL Central until May 18.

:o:

I've thought this team could surprise people since about a week after spring training began, but haven't said much about it. I see a team out there working hard, playing aggressive & smart baseball and most importantly, having fun.

After seeing postgame interviews both last night & tonight on the news, I noticed something in the background that I hadn't heard in years - loud music. The players have every reason to celebrate and be happy, so I'm glad they are. I'm glad they're now playing for a manager who gives a damn and is demanding the type of play from them that they're giving us. What a refreshing change of pace. I knew Robin would be a breath of fresh air and I've been right up to this point.

pudge
04-14-2012, 11:45 PM
Not to mention it's nice to get off to a good start. Seems like the last 2-3 seasons they were already 10 games out of 1st by May 1

Not only that, but seems like since about 2001, with a few exceptions (03, 05, 08) we have started awful. Starting awful almost always means you're not going anywhere, but starting good at least gives you a chance later. I have never bought into the "it's early" mentality - the games count now. It's refreshing to see a decent start out of the gate. The record at the end of April can say a lot.

hawkjt
04-15-2012, 07:59 AM
The pitching and defense was good last year early also,but so far this year we are hitting homers....10 homers in 7 games,on pace for 230 homers. Last year,not so much. I can live with strikeouts if we hit more homers. The weather is better this year,so maybe that helps.

DeAza and AJ have two each...not likely to keep that up.
PK,Dunn,Dayan,Alex,Alexei and Flowers each have a dinger...nice.

Tyler Flowers had a very good game behind the plate also. He might just be a big weapon this year and force Robin to rest AJ more,which I support.

October26
04-15-2012, 09:09 AM
:o:

I've thought this team could surprise people since about a week after spring training began, but haven't said much about it. I see a team out there working hard, playing aggressive & smart baseball and most importantly, having fun.

After seeing postgame interviews both last night & tonight on the news, I noticed something in the background that I hadn't heard in years - loud music. The players have every reason to celebrate and be happy, so I'm glad they are. I'm glad they're now playing for a manager who gives a damn and is demanding the type of play from them that they're giving us. What a refreshing change of pace. I knew Robin would be a breath of fresh air and I've been right up to this point.

:thumbsup: Great post.

My entire family is super-excited with this great start by the Sox and even my husband (casual baseball fan) has inquired about the WSI Group and getting a chance to meet everyone if/when there is a gathering at a Sox game. How awesome is that?

And I'm with you, gotta give kudos to Robin for the great job he has done so far. Go Sox!

wassagstdu
04-15-2012, 09:16 AM
If this season is all about showing what a lousy manager Ozzie was, then count me out. For the record, I for one think Ozzie did a good job trying to make a silk purse out of the sow's ear that he was handed by our football GM year after year. Too bad De Aza never played football.

By the way, the Sox started out 6-3 in 2011, so gloating about Ozzie may be a bit premature.

guillensdisciple
04-15-2012, 09:42 AM
Again, just like a bad break up, the complete opposite is exactly what the sox need. Lets see how well this goes but this far into it, I could not be any more satisfied with the results.

If things click, this team could be really good. It could be that the tigers will just be a worse road team than home team this year.

MISoxfan
04-15-2012, 10:46 AM
Not only that, but seems like since about 2001, with a few exceptions (03, 05, 08) we have started awful. Starting awful almost always means you're not going anywhere, but starting good at least gives you a chance later. I have never bought into the "it's early" mentality - the games count now. It's refreshing to see a decent start out of the gate. The record at the end of April can say a lot.

We had a pretty good start to 2006

palehozenychicty
04-15-2012, 11:23 AM
If this season is all about showing what a lousy manager Ozzie was, then count me out. For the record, I for one think Ozzie did a good job trying to make a silk purse out of the sow's ear that he was handed by our football GM year after year. Too bad De Aza never played football.

By the way, the Sox started out 6-3 in 2011, so gloating about Ozzie may be a bit premature.

I agree as well. Ozzie was seldom given the 1986 Mets roster, in terms of talent.

The team does look a lot looser so far. For all of Beckham and Morel's hitting woes, they do play the field exceptionally well. This makes Dunn, Konerko, Viciedo, and Rios even more important in the batter's box.

doublem23
04-15-2012, 11:32 AM
If this season is all about showing what a lousy manager Ozzie was, then count me out. For the record, I for one think Ozzie did a good job trying to make a silk purse out of the sow's ear that he was handed by our football GM year after year. Too bad De Aza never played football.


Unfortunately De Aza isn't a broken down, worthless vet else he would have gotten a ton more PT in 2011.

That "football GM" was also instrumental in building the 2005 championship team, as Director of Player Development when most of the homegrown guys were in the minors and then as GM shrewdly adding the pieces he needed. So it's all a grey area, really. I know it's early, and there's still a great chance the 2012 Sox limp to 70-80 wins this season, but one week into the year and it looks pretty clear that Ozzie was the toxic element you were feeling with this team. Just saying it was Ozzie's time to move on doesn't mean he's a bad manager; Terry Francona and Joe Torre were both chased out of Boston and New York, respectively as well.

KMcMahon817
04-15-2012, 11:54 AM
If this season is all about showing what a lousy manager Ozzie was, then count me out. For the record, I for one think Ozzie did a good job trying to make a silk purse out of the sow's ear that he was handed by our football GM year after year. Too bad De Aza never played football.

By the way, the Sox started out 6-3 in 2011, so gloating about Ozzie may be a bit premature.

This post made me laugh.

SI1020
04-15-2012, 11:54 AM
If this season is all about showing what a lousy manager Ozzie was, then count me out. For the record, I for one think Ozzie did a good job trying to make a silk purse out of the sow's ear that he was handed by our football GM year after year. Too bad De Aza never played football.

By the way, the Sox started out 6-3 in 2011, so gloating about Ozzie may be a bit premature. Oh well the departure of Ozzie and all the bad feelings resulting won't go away any time soon. Read the New Yorker interview. Pretty disgusting and I am far from a moralizing prude. I'm so glad he is gone, and whether the Sox win 60, contend, or play somewhere in the middle, I'm more than a little happy that Robin is in the dugout now.