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Fenway
01-08-2012, 04:18 PM
The Tigers are being very secretive of what their new scoreboard will be like in 2012 but a Daktronics rep told me it will the biggest they have done in MLB.

Given that Daktronics built the Kaufman Stadium board it should be impressive. It will replace the board Daktronics installed when Comerica opened in 2000.

http://detroit.tigers.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20111214&content_id=26160670&vkey=news_det&c_id=det

Brian26
01-08-2012, 04:22 PM
I thought the Tigers scoreboard in LF was already large. Didn't see a reason it would have to get bigger.

Also, the Mets are moving in their right-field wall.

Oblong
01-09-2012, 08:41 AM
The physical structure of the board itself is big... too big if you ask me, but right now it's nothing more than an old crappy screen with a bunch of ads, 7 the lsat time I counted. This is really long overdue.

Fenway
01-09-2012, 09:16 AM
The physical structure of the board itself is big... too big if you ask me, but right now it's nothing more than an old crappy screen with a bunch of ads, 7 the lsat time I counted. This is really long overdue.

The new boards all allow for virtual ads that look like fixed panels but can be used for video if they want.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/222111_1925386807078_1014362077_32221683_3976070_n .jpg

[https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/294485_10150372482402247_717447246_10401744_427289 725_n.jpg

The old Fenway board was also built in 2000 by Daktronics and the difference between the boards was staggering.

The 3 companies that make these boards just get better and better

http://diamond-vision.com/news_recent.asp

http://www.daktronics.com/ProductsServices/Applications/Sports/SportsInstallations/Pages/default.aspx

http://www.lighthouse-tech.com/PhotoGallery.aspx?c=b2f8e5fc-2ffa-4357-be8d-98dc5731eff6&level=1

Max Power
01-09-2012, 10:32 AM
I'll assume there won't be any improvements to the Comiskey scoreboards. We'll continue to fall further behind the pack in that area. We use to be on the leading edge of scoreboard design. Having a fancy scoreboard isn't that big of a deal to me- I do go to NU basketball games- but I'd be lying if I said I didn't enjoy seeing tons of stats and replays in HD on the boards at other parks.

Hitmen77
01-09-2012, 10:36 AM
....and the poor mix of scoreboards the White Sox offer keep falling further and further behind the rest of the league.

russ99
01-09-2012, 11:17 AM
....and the poor mix of scoreboards the White Sox offer keep falling further and further behind the rest of the league.

They just redid the out of town board, and the main board was redone and the ribbon boards added in 2003.

Other than improving the left field board, what should they do?

I'd much rather Jerry spend more on player development and keep the payroll around $100-110M than needlessly keep up with the Jones' on video screens.

Hitmen77
01-09-2012, 11:28 AM
They just redid the out of town board, and the main board was redone and the ribbon boards added in 2003.

Other than improving the left field board, what should they do?

I'd much rather Jerry spend more on player development and keep the payroll around $100-110M than needlessly keep up with the Jones' on video screens.

The main CF board at the Cell looks pretty outdated to me. It's small and shows little in the way of game stats.

Our ribbon boards show nothing but ads and unimpressive graphics. Other parks are able to incorporate game info into their ribbon boards.

It's not simply to "keep up with the Joneses", I've been to other parks it was nice to see detailed player and game stats on their scoreboard.

The worst part of the Cell's scoreboard system is that most of the current game stats are on the LF scoreboard which is obstructed from view at many seats down the 3B line. It's pretty bad when you can't see the line score for the current game from many seats. Fixing that is not, as you say, "needless".

Yes, I'm aware that the Sox are stuck with lousy payroll commitments and declining attendance. So, I'm not expecting them to make this change in the next couple of years. But somehow, other teams are able fund player development while keeping their scoreboards up to date.

Fenway
01-09-2012, 11:38 AM
These scoreboards usually pay for themselves in additional revenue.

The Yankees get $3M a year from Subway for this farce...

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The main CF board at the Cell looks pretty outdated to me. It's small and shows little in the way of game stats.

Our ribbon boards show nothing but ads and unimpressive graphics. Other parks are able to incorporate game info into their ribbon boards.

It's not simply to "keep up with the Joneses", I've been to other parks it was nice to see detailed player and game stats on their scoreboard.

The worst part of the Cell's scoreboard system is that most of the current game stats are on the LF scoreboard which is obstructed from view at many seats down the 3B line. It's pretty bad when you can't see the line score for the current game from many seats. Fixing that is not, as you say, "needless".

Yes, I'm aware that the Sox are stuck with lousy payroll commitments and declining attendance. So, I'm not expecting them to make this change in the next couple of years. But somehow, other teams are able fund player development while keeping their scoreboards up to date.

C-Dawg
01-09-2012, 11:54 AM
These scoreboards usually pay for themselves in additional revenue.

The Yankees get $3M a year from Subway for this farce...



Wow that really IS weak! I thought it looked pretty cool until they spent most of the video racing side-by-side underground. Lame. The scoreboard at the end is nice; gotta know who's in the lead throughout the season!

DumpJerry
01-09-2012, 11:59 AM
I get a chuckle whenever White Sox fans complain the scoreboard situation at Comiskey.


Go to Wrigley sometime. Talk about lack of information!

Fenway
01-09-2012, 12:10 PM
I get a chuckle whenever White Sox fans complain the scoreboard situation at Comiskey.


Go to Wrigley sometime. Talk about lack of information!

All I need

http://thebiglteeshirt.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/soxbeatcubs.jpg

johnnyg83
01-09-2012, 12:12 PM
I get a chuckle whenever White Sox fans complain the scoreboard situation at Comiskey.


Go to Wrigley sometime. Talk about lack of information!

Apples and Ivy.

We try to compete in that world. They don't. USCF's CF scoreboard looks like a Division III college football scoreboard.

Hitmen77
01-09-2012, 12:14 PM
I get a chuckle whenever White Sox fans complain the scoreboard situation at Comiskey.


Go to Wrigley sometime. Talk about lack of information!

Yeah, but the Cubs have somehow convinced the kool-aid drinkers that their scoreboard is heaven on earth. I agree that the Wrigley scoreboard is a joke, but the reality is that you can't compare their situation to what we have at the Cell. I doubt the Sox can pass of the obstructed view of basic scoreboard info as "nostalgic charm".

Fenway
01-09-2012, 12:18 PM
Yeah, but the Cubs have somehow convinced the kool-aid drinkers that their scoreboard is heaven on earth. I agree that the Wrigley scoreboard is a joke, but the reality is that you can't compare their situation to what we have at the Cell. I doubt the Sox can pass of the obstructed view of basic scoreboard info as "nostalgic charm".

To do it right would mean rebuilding the ad panel wall behind the bleachers and bringing the 3 boards closer similar to what Fenway did last year. That would solve the obstructive view problem in LF.

I love the dedicated pitcher/batter board they installed.
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5303/5747653745_e659092d2f_z.jpg

skobabe8
01-12-2012, 10:00 AM
http://media.star-telegram.com/smedia/2012/01/05/15/49/T7S2L.St.58.jpg

http://www.star-telegram.com/2012/01/05/3637330/fan-friendly-features-rangers.html


A new sports bar and concession stands, air-conditioned children's play area and additional club seating with spectacular views of the field are among new fan-friendly features under construction at the Rangers Ballpark in Arlington. The team provided local media a first look at $12 million in improvements to the city-owned stadium, which hasn't been significantly renovated since it opened in 1994. To help give fans relief from the elements, the Rangers are adding 23,000 square feet of indoor, air-conditioned space, which includes a two-story restaurant and sports bar with views of the field, a kid's zone to replace the outdoor Vandergriff Plaza Sports Park and a 100-seat Batter's Eye Club on top of Greene’s hill in centerfield.

beasly213
01-12-2012, 10:04 AM
Forget the scoreboard. Can we PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE get someone to peel off those old and faded pinwheel stickers off the front of the club level? You don't need to replace them just take them off. They're all faded and look like dirty white stickers around what is otherwise a clean looking stadium.

TheOldRoman
01-12-2012, 11:19 AM
Forget the scoreboard. Can we PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE get someone to peel off those old and faded pinwheel stickers off the front of the club level? You don't need to replace them just take them off. They're all faded and look like dirty white stickers around what is otherwise a clean looking stadium.I agree, and I will add in the other graphics they added for the 2003 All Star Game, the silly asymmetrical firework graphic which was inexplicably left on the outer windows of the press entrance behind homeplate for the past eight seasons. It looks horribly tacky, like putting a bumper sticker on a Cadillac.

http://www.stadium-advisor.com/image-files/us-cellular-field.jpg http://www.chicagoarchitecture.info/CAI/Images/NearSouthSide/USCellularField-003.jpg

beasly213
01-12-2012, 12:09 PM
I agree, and I will add in the other graphics they added for the 2003 All Star Game, the silly asymmetrical firework graphic which was inexplicably left on the outer windows of the press entrance behind homeplate for the past eight seasons. It looks horribly tacky, like putting a bumper sticker on a Cadillac.

http://www.stadium-advisor.com/image-files/us-cellular-field.jpg http://www.chicagoarchitecture.info/CAI/Images/NearSouthSide/USCellularField-003.jpg

I wouldn't mind something on the outside of the main entrance by the statue but those All Star logo stars need to go. Maybe a a fireworks graphic? Or even just a big Sox Logo.

tebman
01-12-2012, 12:59 PM
....and the poor mix of scoreboards the White Sox offer keep falling further and further behind the rest of the league.

That's what I don't understand. The cost is high to design and build a new board but that's why they're cluttered with ads. Stanley, Pepsi, McDonald's, and a host of others pay for space on there. Why couldn't a deal be struck with an ad agency to arrange to build a new board and let them handle the ad revenue to recoup their investment?

I know it's ancient history, but that's how Veeck built the original monster board in 1960. He told the story in his book. It cost $350,000 to build it but it didn't cost the Sox anything up front because an ad company had it built and sold the billboard space themselves. Obviously the cost would be higher now but I don't get why a similar scheme wouldn't work.

Display technology is light years ahead of what it was in 1960. A creative team could cook up a redesigned display that would be visible, show all the relevant game information, and be true to the celebratory goofiness of Veeck's original board (with pinball-machine lights, fireworks, sparks, smoke, confetti, whatever). And it could be paid for by the ad revenue and tie-ins it would generate.

The White Sox invented the scoreboard-as-attraction concept all those years ago. I don't understand why they don't embrace it.

roylestillman
01-13-2012, 10:58 AM
I wouldn't mind something on the outside of the main entrance by the statue but those All Star logo stars need to go. Maybe a a fireworks graphic? Or even just a big Sox Logo.
Here's one I'd like to throw out there for debate: When do they take down the Home of the 2005 World Champion sign painted on the back of one of the scoreboard facing the Dan Ryan. I have no strong feeling about this, but with only two players left from that team, it might be time to think about it.

SephClone89
01-13-2012, 12:30 PM
Here's one I'd like to throw out there for debate: When do they take down the Home of the 2005 World Champion sign painted on the back of one of the scoreboard facing the Dan Ryan. I have no strong feeling about this, but with only two players left from that team, it might be time to think about it.

Absolutely.

Rocky Soprano
01-13-2012, 12:47 PM
Here's one I'd like to throw out there for debate: When do they take down the Home of the 2005 World Champion sign painted on the back of one of the scoreboard facing the Dan Ryan. I have no strong feeling about this, but with only two players left from that team, it might be time to think about it.

NEVER!

Don't Stop Believing.
HOLD ON TO THAT FEELING!

Fenway
01-13-2012, 12:48 PM
That's what I don't understand. The cost is high to design and build a new board but that's why they're cluttered with ads. Stanley, Pepsi, McDonald's, and a host of others pay for space on there. Why couldn't a deal be struck with an ad agency to arrange to build a new board and let them handle the ad revenue to recoup their investment?

The White Sox invented the scoreboard-as-attraction concept all those years ago. I don't understand why they don't embrace it.


That is exactly how it is done now - the Red Sox didn't spend a dime for the board.

http://ancsports.com/

http://multimedia.ancsports.com/Baseball

I believe the White Sox use them for the home plate ads.

dickallen15
01-13-2012, 09:41 PM
While a new fancy board would be nice, I would just like to see a couple of auxilary boards like they had at the old park above first base and third base with the line score and count on them. They could easily be hung on the club level facade.

All the other improvements from the new roof to the new restaurant have been home runs.

keloms
01-14-2012, 06:52 PM
Coming to Wrigley this spring
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/chi-budweiser-patio-20120114,0,7881552.photo


http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2012-01/143848720-14145520.gif

Fenway
01-14-2012, 07:04 PM
Coming to Wrigley this spring
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/chi-budweiser-patio-20120114,0,7881552.photo


http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2012-01/143848720-14145520.gif

Gee I wonder where Theo got that idea from? :tongue:

http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1063/1396334235_dd151319df_z.jpg?zz=1

Fenway
01-20-2012, 07:16 PM
Amazing to see what MINOR league teams are getting now

http://www.daktronics.com/Company/NewsReleases/Pages/MontgomeryBiscuits.aspx

TomBradley72
01-21-2012, 08:24 AM
They just redid the out of town board, and the main board was redone and the ribbon boards added in 2003.

Other than improving the left field board, what should they do?

I'd much rather Jerry spend more on player development and keep the payroll around $100-110M than needlessly keep up with the Jones' on video screens.

It shouldn't be a choice of "either/or"- the scoreboard in left field is using the same technology as when the ballpark opened in 1990- and the overall "hodge podge" of scoreboards and their sightlines from the seating areas, etc. is - by far- the worst in major league baseball.

TomBradley72
01-21-2012, 08:28 AM
Forget the scoreboard. Can we PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE get someone to peel off those old and faded pinwheel stickers off the front of the club level? You don't need to replace them just take them off. They're all faded and look like dirty white stickers around what is otherwise a clean looking stadium.

Thank you for posting this- to me this is an example of where the White Sox come off as pretty apathetic when it comes to their stadium- why are there STILL remanants around the ballpark from an All Star game hosted 9 years ago?

Brian26
01-21-2012, 01:21 PM
Amazing to see what MINOR league teams are getting now

http://www.daktronics.com/Company/NewsReleases/Pages/MontgomeryBiscuits.aspx

That puts the White Sox out-of-town scoreboard to shame.

mzh
01-21-2012, 01:45 PM
That puts the White Sox out-of-town scoreboard to shame.
I think the new out of town board is actually well done, albeit hard to see from the farthest corners of the ballpark.

Brian26
01-21-2012, 02:00 PM
I think the new out of town board is actually well done, albeit hard to see from the farthest corners of the ballpark.

I can't see anything on the board if I'm sitting along the third base side.

Fenway
02-12-2012, 02:13 PM
The new board in Detroit starting to take shape

http://multimedia.detnews.com/pix/05/a0/dc/52/64/84/20120209152454_2012-0209-dg-hockey0102.jpg

Oblong
02-13-2012, 08:32 AM
And to help Miguel's transition to 3B we've installed a hockey rink in the infield so that the runners would have issues.

siugrad25
02-13-2012, 09:12 AM
The new board in Detroit starting to take shape

http://multimedia.detnews.com/pix/05/a0/dc/52/64/84/20120209152454_2012-0209-dg-hockey0102.jpg

Fens,

What's the deal with the promo for the Wings/Maple Leafs Winter Classic at Comerica Park? I thought I saw a photo with Detroit players in Ann Arbor last week. I understand its Detroit and why they make the drive for quick PR piece but still. A little false advertising? (Especially when you put up the border of a rink).

Oblong
02-13-2012, 09:41 AM
Fens,

What's the deal with the promo for the Wings/Maple Leafs Winter Classic at Comerica Park? I thought I saw a photo with Detroit players in Ann Arbor last week. I understand its Detroit and why they make the drive for quick PR piece but still. A little false advertising? (Especially when you put up the border of a rink).

The game between the Leafs/Wings will take place in Ann Arbor. All the other festivities will take place at Comerica Park. There will be an Alumni game (or two), college games (Great Lakes Invitational among them), a game between Grand Rapids Griffins and Toronto Marlies, as well as an OHL game with Plymouth Whalers. Also some HS games and public skating.

The announcement and press conference also took place at Comerica Park.

Fenway
02-17-2012, 12:59 AM
Here's what the Tigers' new scoreboard will look like

http://cmsimg.detnews.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=C3&Date=20120215&Category=SPORTS0104&ArtNo=202160333&Ref=AR&MaxW=640&Border=0&Here-s-what-Tigers-new-scoreboard-will-look-like

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120215/SPORTS0104/202160333/Here-s-what-Tigers-new-scoreboard-will-look-like?odyssey=tab%7Ctopnews%7Ctext%7CFRONTPAGE

nut_stock
02-19-2012, 12:41 AM
I think the Sox need to build up regarding their current scoreboard in Center. Make the center field board twice the height, incorporate the data (lineups, line score, etc) on the new centerfield board. Then they can remove the board in left (which is partially blocked by fundamentals if you sit down the 3rd base line anyways.

And... the icing on the cake would be bigger pin-wheels on tip that also shoot out flames & sparks!

I wonder if it would be possible to make a small deck of seats in front of the fundamentals deck, overhanging the last 10 rows of the lower deck seats.... (make it the family section with easy access to fundamentals)

Fenway
03-09-2012, 07:58 PM
New board at AAA Memphis

http://www.daktronics.com/SiteCollectionImages/Redbirds_500.jpg

http://www.daktronics.com/Company/NewsReleases/Pages/MemphisRedbirds.aspx

Brian26
03-09-2012, 09:14 PM
If the Isotopes are a real team, I have to see their hat and logo.

Fenway
03-09-2012, 10:14 PM
If the Isotopes are a real team, I have to see their hat and logo.

Albuquerque Isotopes are very real in AAA

http://www.milb.com/index.jsp?sid=t342

https://ismmedia.com/shop.albuquerquebaseball.com/ISM3/thumbcache/6474624159d92fb28a6b7d9cc056f34d.500.jpg

DSpivack
03-09-2012, 10:18 PM
If the Isotopes are a real team, I have to see their hat and logo.

OK.

http://lasordaslair.com/files/2012/02/Isotopes-Logo.jpg

http://idn.efashionsolutions.com/asset/image/format/NE-ex/id/NE-MILBTEAM-ALIS_teamcolor_front

Viva Medias B's
03-09-2012, 10:23 PM
The center field scoreboard needs to become the main scoreboard in digital fashion and not just be the JumboTron.

DoItForDanPasqua
03-11-2012, 11:03 PM
I think the new out of town board is actually well done, albeit hard to see from the farthest corners of the ballpark.


It's fine unless you want to see out of town scores instead of advertisements and pictures of players. I miss the old one; it was simple, but the score of every game was displayed at all times.

StillMissOzzie
03-11-2012, 11:37 PM
I think the new out of town board is actually well done, albeit hard to see from the farthest corners of the ballpark.

It's fine unless you want to see out of town scores instead of advertisements and pictures of players. I miss the old one; it was simple, but the score of every game was displayed at all times.

Count me as one who likes the new out-of-town scoreboard. Yes, it is not visible from everywhere in USCF, a problem that plagues ALL the scoreboards one way or another, and some have griped that it is too cluttered, but once you know what you're looking for, there's a boatload of information there. You get the score, inning, pitcher, batter, and men on base in a tidy package.

SMO
:gulp:

TheVulture
03-12-2012, 03:18 AM
Amazing to see what MINOR league teams are getting now



Parkview Field in Ft Wayne:

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r115/subgenius88/scoreboard.jpg

Parrothead
03-12-2012, 07:22 AM
Parkview Field in Ft Wayne:

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r115/subgenius88/scoreboard.jpg

The hole park is amazing for a "A" level club and the food is awesome. It is worth the 3 hour drive (one way).

Hitmen77
03-13-2012, 09:00 AM
Amazing to see what MINOR league teams are getting now

http://www.daktronics.com/Company/NewsReleases/Pages/MontgomeryBiscuits.aspx

Yeah, but the Sox got their current scoreboard in 2003! It's too soon to make any improvements.

Interesting that minor league teams can afford to put in these kind of scoreboards, but the Sox have suggested they can't.

soxnut67
03-17-2012, 03:56 PM
Yeah, but the Sox got their current scoreboard in 2003! It's too soon to make any improvements.

Interesting that minor league teams can afford to put in these kind of scoreboards, but the Sox have suggested they can't.

Well unfortunately, after emailing Brooks, it sounds like it's going to be awhile before we get a new board. They can't consider it until 75% of the teams have an hd board.