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Fenway
12-04-2011, 10:35 AM
With the CBA in place we may see some action this week

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2011/12/04/parade_of_possibilities_at_the_winter_meetings/?page=full


http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/baseball-hot-stove-a-cool-start-jose-reyes-offer-marlins-market-slow-pujols-fielder-article-1.986378

DirtySox
12-04-2011, 01:37 PM
Lol.


jonmorosi Jon Morosi
BREAKING: Manny Ramirez is making a comeback. Filing for reinstatement from MLB voluntary retired list, source tells FOXSports.com.
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jonmorosi Jon Morosi
Manny Ramirez will be eligible to play this season after serving a 50-game suspension, source tells FOXSports.com.
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Sockinchisox
12-04-2011, 01:52 PM
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/Manny-Ramirez-seeks-return-in-2012-ending-retirement-120411

DSpivack
12-04-2011, 02:04 PM
But will any team be dumb enough to sign him?

Boondock Saint
12-04-2011, 03:22 PM
But will any team be dumb enough to sign him?

Nope.

A. Cavatica
12-04-2011, 03:44 PM
But will any team be dumb enough to sign him?

Fortunately, KW has to cut payroll.

DirtySox
12-04-2011, 04:02 PM
SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman
#bluejays have plenty of spending $. They do appear to be in prince market. (side note: dad played there)
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Fenway
12-04-2011, 04:59 PM
What on earth does this logo have to do with baseball???

http://www.sportsagentblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/2011-winter-meetings1-e1320888335123.jpg

DirtySox
12-04-2011, 05:57 PM
JimBowdenESPNxm JIM BOWDEN
Enrique Rojas of ESPNDeportes reporting that Marlins have increased offer to Reyes to over 100m
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DirtySox
12-04-2011, 06:12 PM
Joelsherman1 Joel Sherman
#Mets have not been alerted yet by Reyes camp that number is 6-111M from #Marlins as ESPN is reporting
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WLL1855
12-04-2011, 06:44 PM
JimBowdenESPNxm JIM BOWDEN
Enrique Rojas of ESPNDeportes reporting that Marlins have increased offer to Reyes to over 100m
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Oh please let this be true. I would love nothing more than for Loria to go on a spending spree and have it all blow up in his face.

DirtySox
12-04-2011, 07:58 PM
Ken_Rosenthal Ken Rosenthal
Sources: #Marlins, Reyes close on six-year deal, believed to be for $110 million. #MLB
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Is Buehrle next?

DirtySox
12-04-2011, 08:50 PM
ChiTribRogers Phil Rogers
From everything he's said, Hanley Ramirez not thrilled to move from SS to 3B for Jose Reyes. It's Ozzie Guillen's job to work it out.
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DirtySox
12-05-2011, 12:52 PM
SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman
#royals, who've already added 2 pitchers, talking trades for starters. In on gio gonzalez, others. Wil myers coveted by others
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Just as I suspected. Royals could be scary if they get some pitching.

cws05champ
12-05-2011, 03:14 PM
Just as I suspected. Royals could be scary if they get some pitching.
Yep, if they get some veteran pitching stability with their offense....they could contend in the division.

PKalltheway
12-06-2011, 11:53 AM
http://a3.twimg.com/profile_images/1144343763/foxjon_normal.jpg (http://twitter.com/#!/jonmorosi)
@jonmorosi (http://twitter.com/#!/jonmorosi)Jon Morosi
#Marlins (http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23Marlins) offer to Albert Pujols is 10 years and over $200 million, source confirms.

:o::o::thud:

guillensdisciple
12-06-2011, 02:23 PM
Wow they get him and I think they can pen their playoff invitations. Would have a very very stacked line up.

WhiteSox5187
12-06-2011, 02:31 PM
Wow they get him and I think they can pen their playoff invitations. Would have a very very stacked line up.

Well what is their pitching like? I think their pitching is quite shakey but that lineup would be pretty fun to watch. They might wind up regretting that contract in the last five years of it or so though.

Fenway
12-06-2011, 02:47 PM
Ozzie is drooling

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/fish_bytes/2011/12/ozzie-guillen-envisions-a-marlins-lineup-containing-albert-pujols-.html

Gammons checked in with WEEI and the buzz in Dallas is the Marlins may announce this in time for the 6 PM local news in Miami.

Vestigio
12-06-2011, 03:53 PM
https://twitter.com/#!/SedanoShow/status/144161710926864385

Things just got interesting for Ozzie and the Marlins

VMSNS
12-06-2011, 04:31 PM
https://twitter.com/#!/SedanoShow/status/144161710926864385

Things just got interesting for Ozzie and the Marlins

:rolling:

asindc
12-06-2011, 04:35 PM
https://twitter.com/#!/SedanoShow/status/144161710926864385

Things just got interesting for Ozzie and the Marlins

:rolling:

For those of us without access to Twitter...?

MtGrnwdSoxFan
12-06-2011, 04:37 PM
For those of us without access to Twitter...?

The tweet says that Hanley Ramirez doesn't want to play third, and will demand a trade if he can't play short.

russ99
12-06-2011, 04:39 PM
The tweet says that Hanley Ramirez doesn't want to play third, and will demand a trade if he can't play short.

I don't see why that would be a big deal, Reyes is better at 2B anyway.

Edit: That report has been debunked by the Marlins, but I'd bet Ramirez isn't thrilled.

DumpJerry
12-06-2011, 04:48 PM
For those of us without access to Twitter...?
Just click on the link in the post.

asindc
12-06-2011, 04:49 PM
Just click on the link in the post.

Firewall blocked.

DumpJerry
12-06-2011, 04:54 PM
Firewall blocked.
Oh. Well, it said that Dunn wanted to hit 90 home runs last season, but Ozzie told him he would kill him if he did because he wanted out of Chicago.

DSpivack
12-06-2011, 07:36 PM
On Twitter Chuck Garfein says that the Marlins are considering offering Buehrle the no-trade clause he is seeking; also, the Rangers and Nationals are trying very hard for him, as well.

EDIT: Also, Jon Heyman says that the Marlins met with MLB officials to determine if their contract offer to Pujols is kosher with the new CBA, as that is something they want to resolve ASAP.

DirtySox
12-06-2011, 07:55 PM
BNightengale Bob Nightengale
#STLCARDS Pujols now has three teams that are offering 10-year contracts in excess of $200 million: STL, MIAMI, AND unidentified team
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Mystery team sighting!

DSpivack
12-06-2011, 07:57 PM
BNightengale Bob Nightengale
#STLCARDS Pujols now has three teams that are offering 10-year contracts in excess of $200 million: STL, MIAMI, AND unidentified team
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Mystery team sighting!

Who do you think ? team is?

DSpivack
12-06-2011, 08:07 PM
Looks like someone was a little over-served down in Dallas...

http://www.mlb.com/news/wall/article.jsp?content_id=26110444&partnerId=aw-5323347639044224621-996

FreeBuck12
12-06-2011, 08:15 PM
Oh. Well, it said that Dunn wanted to hit 90 home runs last season, but Ozzie told him he would kill him if he did because he wanted out of Chicago.

I literally just spit out my wine. Well played, sir.:tongue:

DSpivack
12-06-2011, 08:57 PM
Angel Pagan from Mets to Giants, per Ken Rosenthal.

EDIT: Mets get Andres Torres and Ramon Ramirez.

VMSNS
12-06-2011, 09:03 PM
Mystery Team is going all the way this year! 2012 World Series Champions for sure.

ComiskeyBrewer
12-06-2011, 09:08 PM
Who do you think ? team is?


Lakers. Buss REALLY wants to win this year.

guillensdisciple
12-06-2011, 09:09 PM
Who do you think ? team is?


The White Sox.

Brian26
12-06-2011, 09:14 PM
On Twitter Chuck Garfein says that the Marlins are considering offering Buehrle the no-trade clause he is seeking; also, the Rangers and Nationals are trying very hard for him, as well.

I've been reading all day on Twitter from multiple sources that the Marlins don't want to give Pujols a no-trade clause because of their etched-in-stone policy, yet, Garfein thinks they would waive this for Buehrle? That seems suspect.

DSpivack
12-06-2011, 09:37 PM
Lakers. Buss REALLY wants to win this year.

I saw that someone tweeted that joke to Mark Teahen (why I still follow him I don't know). I laughed.

ComiskeyBrewer
12-06-2011, 09:54 PM
I saw that someone tweeted that joke to Mark Teahen (why I still follow him I don't know). I laughed.

My reaction was the same "why do i still follow him?"
:D:

DSpivack
12-06-2011, 10:03 PM
@Ken_Rosenthal (https://twitter.com/#%21/Ken_Rosenthal) Ken Rosenthal
Sources: #Angels (https://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23Angels) pursuing Pujols. Ongoing conversations. #MLB (https://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23MLB)

5 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/#%21/Ken_Rosenthal/status/144264125772607489) via Twitter for iPhone (http://twitter.com/#%21/download/iphone)

Are they the "mystery team"?

thomas35forever
12-06-2011, 11:47 PM
http://a0.twimg.com/profile_images/1413002961/261697_1774507407982_1398220196_31427237_7309874_n _normal.jpg (http://twitter.com/#%21/JimBowdenESPNxm) @JimBowdenESPNxm (http://twitter.com/#%21/JimBowdenESPNxm) JIM BOWDEN


Source: Pujols down to Marlins and Cardinals period.

DirtySox
12-07-2011, 12:00 AM
susanslusser Susan Slusser
I have had it confirmed that the #Tigers are trying to make a strong push for Gio Gonzalez. #Athletics
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FreeBuck12
12-07-2011, 12:46 AM
Okay..my surrogate uncle and mlb.com beat writer scott merkin Has informed me that buster olney meant that they sox wanted a talent package for Danks similar to whatcleveland gave up with they required Jimenez.... Not that they actually want Jimenez... Just FYI

asindc
12-07-2011, 07:42 AM
susanslusser Susan Slusser
I have had it confirmed that the #Tigers are trying to make a strong push for Gio Gonzalez. #Athletics
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Billy Beane said on MLB Network that they are not actively shopping any of their starting pitchers, but are listening in case they get an offer they can't refuse. Bosch, Sizemore, and money for Gio?

cws05champ
12-07-2011, 09:01 AM
Billy Beane said on MLB Network that they are not actively shopping any of their starting pitchers, but are listening in case they get an offer they can't refuse. Bosch, Sizemore, and money for Gio?
Yeah....I think in any Gonzalez deal they'll want Turner in return.

Fenway
12-07-2011, 09:11 AM
Nobody seems to know who the third team is with Pujols but the Marlins think they are now out of it.

DSpivack
12-07-2011, 02:31 PM
Nobody seems to know who the third team is with Pujols but the Marlins think they are now out of it.

That wasn't the Angels? Anyways, it appears now that Pujols is returning to St. Louis.

Supposedly the Marlins have moved on and offered CJ Wilson a 6-year deal, which no other team has yet been willing to do. They are also supposedly one of the three teams that Buehrle has whittled down his choices to, AND they're now going after Prince Fielder. Crazy.

DSpivack
12-07-2011, 03:06 PM
Buster_ESPN:
Source: Hanley Ramirez's rep asked the Marlins for a restructured deal. MIA upset with this, will now be looking to trade Hanley (more). [via Twitter]

DirtySox
12-07-2011, 03:14 PM
Buster_ESPN:
Source: Hanley Ramirez's rep asked the Marlins for a restructured deal. MIA upset with this, will now be looking to trade Hanley (more). [via Twitter]


Crazy.

soltrain21
12-07-2011, 03:22 PM
Buster_ESPN:
Source: Hanley Ramirez's rep asked the Marlins for a restructured deal. MIA upset with this, will now be looking to trade Hanley (more). [via Twitter]


Awesome.

DSpivack
12-07-2011, 03:32 PM
Crazy.

Awesome.

Ken_Rosenthal:
#Marlins prez Samson: Hanley did not ask for contract to be restructured. Hanley not getting traded. Hanley critical part of team. #MLB [via Twitter]

Who knows what's going on.

DSpivack
12-07-2011, 03:49 PM
More on Miami:

BNightengale:
Ozzie Guillen says Hanley Ramirez not going anywhere and is huge part of offense #marlins (http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23marlins) [via Twitter]

jonmorosi:
Ozzie on Buehrle: "I hope we get him." #Marlins (http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23Marlins) [via Twitter]

GoGoCrede
12-07-2011, 03:51 PM
More on Miami:

BNightengale:
Ozzie Guillen says Hanley Ramirez not going anywhere and is huge part of offense #marlins (http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23marlins) [via Twitter]jonmorosi:
Ozzie on Buehrle: "I hope we get him." #Marlins (http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23Marlins) [via Twitter]

I suppose it's entirely petty of me to hope Ozzie doesn't get what he wants, right?

EDIT - Oh well, seems he got it anyway.

FreeBuck12
12-07-2011, 03:57 PM
Burls signs with the marlins 4years/$56 mil via twitter sources

DirtySox
12-07-2011, 04:04 PM
JimBowdenESPNxm JIM BOWDEN
JIm Duquette of SiriusXM is reporting that JImmy Rollins has agreed to terms with the Phillies
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guillensdisciple
12-07-2011, 04:05 PM
Burls signs with the marlins 4years/$56 mil via twitter sources

Wow this kinda sucks but I guess he liked Ozzie more than we thought.

That team is going to be good really good from the looks of it

DSpivack
12-07-2011, 04:12 PM
Wow this kinda sucks but I guess he liked Ozzie more than we thought.

That team is going to be good really good from the looks of it

They're not done, either.

Jon_Heyman:
Guess what? I'm told marlins still trying for wilson even after landing buehrle (and reyes and bell). Talking to prince too

guillensdisciple
12-07-2011, 04:14 PM
I kept saying they were only a couple away and now they have three and might have two more. Ridiculous where they got this money. This is Miami heat syndrome for sure. When Miami became this superpower I have no idea but I actually always had a soft spot for them and this is not a bad thing for me. Let's see where they go with all of this maybe they sign fielder and I honestly think they're the second best team in the NL

Lip Man 1
12-07-2011, 05:50 PM
Well buying a championship worked once before for them.

Lip

DirtySox
12-07-2011, 10:27 PM
jonmorosi Jon Morosi
Source with knowledge of C.J. Wilson talks expects him to sign five-year deal with #Angels.
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DirtySox
12-07-2011, 10:32 PM
jonmorosi Jon Morosi
#Tigers nearing deal with Octavio Dotel, as @dknobler reported. Source says likely to be one year and an option.
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DSpivack
12-07-2011, 11:26 PM
I kept saying they were only a couple away and now they have three and might have two more. Ridiculous where they got this money. This is Miami heat syndrome for sure. When Miami became this superpower I have no idea but I actually always had a soft spot for them and this is not a bad thing for me. Let's see where they go with all of this maybe they sign fielder and I honestly think they're the second best team in the NL

Beyond Buehrle their rotation might still be a bit of a mess.

Josh Johnson is a bonafide ace, one of the best in the NL, but has real health issues.

Anibal Sanchez has had 2 good seasons after barely pitching at all for 3 years, when he had shoulder problems and then torn labrum surgery.

Javier Vazquez has put up good numbers on mediocre Marlin teams, but we all know how reliable he is.

Beyond that Hand, Volstad, Nolasco & Hensley are all nothing special.

And we all know how much drama surrounds Ozzie's teams, but there are issues beyond the Guillen family there. Logan Morrison (LoMo, ugh) has run into some problems with the team because of his love of twitter (maybe he and Ozzie's sons can one-up each other), and he seems like a strange guy overall. Hanley Ramirez was out of shape and maybe out of touch last season, and reportedly is unhappy that the team wants him to switch to 3B after signing SS Jose Reyes (and who knows about his long-term health).

Obviously they should be much better next season. But I think there's a bit of potential there for it to blow up in their face.

cards press box
12-08-2011, 12:01 AM
And some think that Javier Vazquez (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/javier_vazquez/) will retire. I will say, though, that Josh Johnson, Mark Buerhle, Anibal Sanchez and Ricky Nolasco is a pretty good quartet. Could the Marlins use some starting pitching depth? Yes. It wouldn't surprise me if the Marlins picked up another starter is a trade, assuming that C.J. Wilson signs with the L.A. Angels.