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Fenway
12-03-2011, 12:18 AM
Loria and Selig have a BIG problem

http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/12/02/2529191/feds-open-sec-probe-into-miami.html


http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/mh-feds-probe-new-marlins-stadium-20111202,0,674682.story


http://miami.cbslocal.com/2011/12/02/report-marlins-stadium-deal-under-federal-investigation/

HomeFish
12-03-2011, 01:10 AM
We're all waiting to see what kind of neon suit the Marlin's lawyer wears in court.

Viva Medias B's
12-03-2011, 01:26 AM
Loria and Selig have a BIG problem

http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/12/02/2529191/feds-open-sec-probe-into-miami.html


http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/mh-feds-probe-new-marlins-stadium-20111202,0,674682.story


http://miami.cbslocal.com/2011/12/02/report-marlins-stadium-deal-under-federal-investigation/

I wonder if this could bring both of them down. Or will they weasel out of it?

Fenway
12-03-2011, 01:38 AM
I wonder if this could bring both of them down. Or will they weasel out of it?

My hunch is this all goes back to those documents Deadspin released last year on the Marlins.

http://deadspin.com/5619235/florida-marlins-financial-documents/gallery/1

Yahoo followed up
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=jp-marlinsfinancials082810

Of course Loria is real popular in Canada

http://www.thestar.com/sports/baseball/mlb/article/1087473--griffin-miami-marlins-set-to-be-a-huge-bonanza-for-loria

Boondock Saint
12-03-2011, 03:33 AM
We're all waiting to see what kind of neon suit the Marlin's lawyer wears in court.

Well played.

WhiteSox5187
12-03-2011, 06:17 AM
I wonder if this could bring both of them down. Or will they weasel out of it?

I suspect that they will weasel out of it but depending on how much Selig knew, this could damage his legacy.

geofitz
12-03-2011, 08:48 AM
replies:"Thanks for the info".

You can be assured the dwarf is busy shredding and destroying any and all incriminating documents concerning him and his step father.

BTW. Has anyone ever seen Billy the Marlin and David Samson in the same picture?

IIRC, Regaldo (any relation to Rudy?) might have been the only Miami-Dade commissioner to vote against the stadium. He's now Mayor of Miami city.

soxfanreggie
12-03-2011, 02:21 PM
I suspect that they will weasel out of it but depending on how much Selig knew, this could damage his legacy.

Somehow I could see the commish's discretionary fund or some other MLB fund making some payments to the city to 'fix' any problems with the parking garage payments as well as some other 'philanthropic' efforst in the county and city.

Frontman
12-03-2011, 04:12 PM
I suspect that they will weasel out of it but depending on how much Selig knew, this could damage his legacy.

What legacy? Ok, made the owners a ton of bank; but turned a blind eye to the rampant steroid abuse in his game to the point it has become a punchline.

I'm pretty sure he will never have a sterling polished legacy after that fiasco, not to mention this:

http://www.mashedreport.com/2010/06/03/bud.jpg


I'm pretty sure history will record that while the league made a lot of money during his era; the actual game of baseball suffered due to his mis-management.

SI1020
12-03-2011, 05:04 PM
Well played. I agree, that was a good one.

TDog
12-03-2011, 05:08 PM
What legacy? Ok, made the owners a ton of bank; but turned a blind eye to the rampant steroid abuse in his game to the point it has become a punchline.

I'm pretty sure he will never have a sterling polished legacy after that fiasco, not to mention this:

http://www.mashedreport.com/2010/06/03/bud.jpg


I'm pretty sure history will record that while the league made a lot of money during his era; the actual game of baseball suffered due to his mis-management.

The legacy of Judge Landis is one of expelling players from the game without due process and outright forbidding African Americans from playing. If you want to argue that the permanent suspensions without due process saved the game, you could argue that steroids were overlooked in the 1990s to save the game.

I don't think baseball has suffered under Selig, at least not due to his mismanagement.

SI1020
12-03-2011, 05:19 PM
The legacy of Judge Landis is one of expelling players from the game without due process and outright forbidding African Americans from playing. If you want to argue that the permanent suspensions without due process saved the game, you could argue that steroids were overlooked in the 1990s to save the game.

I don't think baseball has suffered under Selig, at least not due to his mismanagement. I disagree. Frontman was right. He made a lot of money and damaged the game.

TDog
12-03-2011, 06:11 PM
I disagree. Frontman was right. He made a lot of money and damaged the game.

I don't think he damaged the game any more than any other commissioner, except for Giammatti.

mzh
12-03-2011, 06:27 PM
The legacy of Judge Landis is one of expelling players from the game without due process and outright forbidding African Americans from playing. If you want to argue that the permanent suspensions without due process saved the game, you could argue that steroids were overlooked in the 1990s to save the game.

I don't think baseball has suffered under Selig, at least not due to his mismanagement.
What exactly did the game need saving from :scratch:. Even if there was a slight downturn in interest before the home run explosion, it was nothing like the rampant gambling and other problems in the game pre-1930. That's not to say that Landis was a fair man by any means, but the steroid fallout has been much greater than it would have been by taking care of business when it should have been.

WhiteSox5187
12-03-2011, 06:54 PM
I don't think he damaged the game any more than any other commissioner, except for Giammatti.

Selig made the owners a lot of money but under his watch he canceled the World Series for the first time which led to the game being so unpopular that he and the owners turned a willful blind eye and let some of baseball's most sacred records become tarnished, he over expanded the leagues in an effort to try and pay for collusion (which is something he helped engineer), he oversaw the World Series go from one of the biggest events in all of sports to something that no one will watch unless one of three teams are in it. Daver likes to point out that Selig consolidated his power like no other commissioner in the game and he did make the owners a lot of money but I don't think that baseball is in a better spot now than it was when he took over.

DSpivack
12-03-2011, 07:09 PM
What exactly did the game need saving from :scratch:. Even if there was a slight downturn in interest before the home run explosion, it was nothing like the rampant gambling and other problems in the game pre-1930. That's not to say that Landis was a fair man by any means, but the steroid fallout has been much greater than it would have been by taking care of business when it should have been.

I would say that Landis is easily the worst commish baseball has ever had.

Daver
12-03-2011, 11:35 PM
I would say that Landis is easily the worst commish baseball has ever had.


Peter Uberroth's hand signed letter to every team instructing them to participate in collusion is arguably the worst thing that has happened to MLB. I think it is anyway.

Vernam
12-04-2011, 12:50 AM
I suspect that they will weasel out of it but depending on how much Selig knew, this could damage his legacy.

I'm just a little disappointed that it popped too soon (presumably) to ensnare Osprey and Onely. Would be nice to see them do hard time in some Dade County correctional facility. Not that I'd rule it out at this point.

Vernam