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Fenway
11-30-2011, 11:10 PM
http://baseballhall.org/news/press-releases/2012-hall-fame-ballot-out-today

The ballot: Jeff Bagwell, Jeromy Burnitz, Vinny Castilla, Juan Gonzalez, Brian Jordan, Barry Larkin, Javy Lopez, Edgar Martinez, Don Mattingly, Fred McGriff, Mark McGwire, Jack Morris, Bill Mueller, Terry Mulholland, Dale Murphy, Phil Nevin, Rafael Palmeiro, Brad Radke, Tim Raines, Tim Salmon, Ruben Sierra, Lee Smith, Alan Trammell, Larry Walker, Bernie Williams, Tony Womack, Eric Young.

Oblong
11-30-2011, 11:31 PM
Did you guys see the Juan Gone HOF Brochure?

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=15563

hilarious write up.

MeteorsSox4367
12-01-2011, 01:59 PM
http://baseballhall.org/news/press-releases/2012-hall-fame-ballot-out-today

The ballot: Jeff Bagwell, Jeromy Burnitz, Vinny Castilla, Juan Gonzalez, Brian Jordan, Barry Larkin, Javy Lopez, Edgar Martinez, Don Mattingly, Fred McGriff, Mark McGwire, Jack Morris, Bill Mueller, Terry Mulholland, Dale Murphy, Phil Nevin, Rafael Palmeiro, Brad Radke, Tim Raines, Tim Salmon, Ruben Sierra, Lee Smith, Alan Trammell, Larry Walker, Bernie Williams, Tony Womack, Eric Young.

During its college basketball coverage last night, ESPN ran on the crawl that Bernie Williams was one of the nominees for the HOF.

I know Williams was a good player, but if he weren't a Yankee, would he be HOF-worthy?

On this list, is there anyone who is a lock? You've got McGwire and Palmeiro with the whole steroid mess. I liked Bagwell and Murphy as players, but I don't know if they should get into the HOF. As for Mattingly, I've always hated the Yankees, but I liked him as a player. I don't know if he's HOF-worthy.

Javy Lopez? Bill Mueller? Phil Nevin? C'mon, now.

WhiteSox5187
12-01-2011, 02:05 PM
During its college basketball coverage last night, ESPN ran on the crawl that Bernie Williams was one of the nominees for the HOF.

I know Williams was a good player, but if he weren't a Yankee, would he be HOF-worthy?

On this list, is there anyone who is a lock? You've got McGwire and Palmeiro with the whole steroid mess. I liked Bagwell and Murphy as players, but I don't know if they should get into the HOF. As for Mattingly, I've always hated the Yankees, but I liked him as a player. I don't know if he's HOF-worthy.

Javy Lopez? Bill Mueller? Phil Nevin? C'mon, now.

Larkin probably makes it to the Hall this year. And that's about it.

TDog
12-01-2011, 02:27 PM
Larkin probably makes it to the Hall this year. And that's about it.

I would like to see Fred McGriff make it. I think he is a good person who did a lot for the game and still works with kids.

eastchicagosoxfan
12-01-2011, 02:39 PM
http://baseballhall.org/news/press-releases/2012-hall-fame-ballot-out-today

The ballot: Jeff Bagwell, Jeromy Burnitz, Vinny Castilla, Juan Gonzalez, Brian Jordan, Barry Larkin, Javy Lopez, Edgar Martinez, Don Mattingly, Fred McGriff, Mark McGwire, Jack Morris, Bill Mueller, Terry Mulholland, Dale Murphy, Phil Nevin, Rafael Palmeiro, Brad Radke, Tim Raines, Tim Salmon, Ruben Sierra, Lee Smith, Alan Trammell, Larry Walker, Bernie Williams, Tony Womack, Eric Young.

I think Larkin should be elected next year. I think Bagwell will be elected in a few years. Good arguements can be made for and against Raines and Martinez. I think Raines has a better case than Martinez. The steroids guys have to work really hard to sway the voters. Murphy, Walker and Williams were good players.

Lamp81
12-02-2011, 12:18 AM
I'd vote Morris and Raines.

asindc
12-02-2011, 10:39 AM
During its college basketball coverage last night, ESPN ran on the crawl that Bernie Williams was one of the nominees for the HOF.

I know Williams was a good player, but if he weren't a Yankee, would he be HOF-worthy?

On this list, is there anyone who is a lock? You've got McGwire and Palmeiro with the whole steroid mess. I liked Bagwell and Murphy as players, but I don't know if they should get into the HOF. As for Mattingly, I've always hated the Yankees, but I liked him as a player. I don't know if he's HOF-worthy.

Javy Lopez? Bill Mueller? Phil Nevin? C'mon, now.

Tim Raines should be.

WLL1855
12-04-2011, 07:56 PM
http://baseballhall.org/news/press-releases/2012-hall-fame-ballot-out-today

The ballot: Jeff Bagwell, Jeromy Burnitz, Vinny Castilla, Juan Gonzalez, Brian Jordan, Barry Larkin, Javy Lopez, Edgar Martinez, Don Mattingly, Fred McGriff, Mark McGwire, Jack Morris, Bill Mueller, Terry Mulholland, Dale Murphy, Phil Nevin, Rafael Palmeiro, Brad Radke, Tim Raines, Tim Salmon, Ruben Sierra, Lee Smith, Alan Trammell, Larry Walker, Bernie Williams, Tony Womack, Eric Young.

It just blows my mind how some of these names find their way on the ballot.

Phil Nevin?, Tony Womack?, Bill Mueller? Are you kidding me?

Is there some kind of prize you get if you don't get a single vote? There should be.

thomas35forever
12-05-2011, 12:17 AM
It just blows my mind how some of these names find their way on the ballot.

Phil Nevin?, Tony Womack?, Bill Mueller? Are you kidding me?

Is there some kind of prize you get if you don't get a single vote? There should be.
I think the rule is anyone who played in the bigs 10 or more years gets on regardless of what they did. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Oblong
12-05-2011, 08:30 AM
I would like to see Fred McGriff make it. I think he is a good person who did a lot for the game and still works with kids.

No, you're thinking of Tom Emanski (http://espn.go.com/page2/s/caple/030709.html).


My ballot would be:

Bagwell, Larkin, Martinez, Morris, Raines, Trammell.

(yeah I'm biased. However I'm iffy on Morris)

I don't think we get anybody elected this year from the BBWAA ballot.

TommyJohn
12-05-2011, 10:35 AM
I think the rule is anyone who played in the bigs 10 or more years gets on regardless of what they did. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

There used to be a process whereby a committee would determine who should go on the ballot-but Milt "Mr. Almost-Perfect Asswad" Pappas howled loud and long when he did not make the final ballot. So I think if the "review committee" still exists, it is just a formality.

gobears1987
12-05-2011, 10:48 AM
If Fred McGriff somehow makes it, there is no question about what hat he'd be wearing.

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