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PKalltheway
11-22-2011, 01:37 PM
First Brewer to take home the award since Robin Yount in 1989. Braun received 20 out of 32 first-place votes.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20111121&content_id=26018700&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb

SephClone89
11-22-2011, 04:13 PM
Congrats to him. A very special player, though this was a toss-up between he and Kemp.

Also, my girlfriend has a huge crush on him for some reason.

MtGrnwdSoxFan
11-22-2011, 04:27 PM
Congrats to the Hebrew Hammer. Would have liked to see Kemp win it, but Braun led his team to the playoffs and Kemp didn't.

PalehosePlanet
11-22-2011, 04:38 PM
Congrats to the Hebrew Hammer. Would have liked to see Kemp win it, but Braun led his team to the playoffs and Kemp didn't.

He and Prince Fielder did; I thought they'd split the vote.

I don't have a problem with Braun winning, but Kemp coming oh-so-close to the first triple crown in 43 years would have gotten my vote.

shes
11-22-2011, 04:41 PM
Congrats to the Hebrew Hammer. Would have liked to see Kemp win it, but Braun led his team to the playoffs and Kemp didn't.

A single player does not lead his team to the playoffs in baseball, so I have a tough time swallowing that reasoning for why Kemp didn't win.

happydude
11-22-2011, 04:56 PM
He and Prince Fielder did; I thought they'd split the vote.

I don't have a problem with Braun winning, but Kemp coming oh-so-close to the first triple crown in 43 years would have gotten my vote.

Didn't Kemp also win a Gold Glove playing in center, a far more important position than Braun's left? And not only were Kemp's numbers superior overall but he put them up without the kind of protection Braun got with Fielder right behind him. Still, being on a playoff team should count for something. Congrats to Braun...

thomas35forever
11-22-2011, 06:06 PM
Congrats to Ryan.

tstrike2000
11-22-2011, 08:07 PM
Nice job by Braun, he's a quite a player.

#1swisher
11-22-2011, 08:17 PM
Congrats Braun! :tiphat: :gulp:

palehozenychicty
11-23-2011, 06:19 AM
Matt Kemp http://bit.ly/v78kBZ
vs.
Ryan Braun http://bit.ly/rYAVZm


Both are talented players. I've been fortunate to watch Kemp live a couple of times, and when he's on, he has Hall of Fame potential. I think his overall lack of career consistency did him in here. His numbers are clearly better than Braun, and Braun has a lot more help on the roster.

The definition of valuable in the case of MVP is supposed to be restricted to individual performance, without a heavy factor in team accomplishment, according to the rule book. They came the closest when A-Rod was named MVP in '03 for a terrible Rangers squad.

Reality is different in how writers assess value, as we know, with regional and personal biases entering the picture. Statistical measurements have expanded to give a more rounded, yet debatable picture of a player's raw contribution to a team.

Adding layers of context to the argument involve Kemp accomplishing his season with the McCourt saga weighing the franchise and Braun hitting with postseason expectations.

Did Kemp finally break through for good? Braun has been fairly consistent with ascending metrics. It can get interesting.

I still believe that Herm Edwards was right in that you play to win the game. But Matt Kemp deserved the MVP.

happydude
11-23-2011, 07:48 AM
Matt Kemp http://bit.ly/v78kBZ
vs.
Ryan Braun http://bit.ly/rYAVZm


Both are talented players. I've been fortunate to watch Kemp live a couple of times, and when he's on, he has Hall of Fame potential. I think his overall lack of career consistency did him in here. His numbers are clearly better than Braun, and Braun has a lot more help on the roster.

The definition of valuable in the case of MVP is supposed to be restricted to individual performance, without a heavy factor in team accomplishment, according to the rule book. They came the closest when A-Rod was named MVP in '03 for a terrible Rangers squad.

Reality is different in how writers assess value, as we know, with regional and personal biases entering the picture. Statistical measurements have expanded to give a more rounded, yet debatable picture of a player's raw contribution to a team.

Adding layers of context to the argument involve Kemp accomplishing his season with the McCourt saga weighing the franchise and Braun hitting with postseason expectations.

Did Kemp finally break through for good? Braun has been fairly consistent with ascending metrics. It can get interesting.

I still believe that Herm Edwards was right in that you play to win the game. But Matt Kemp deserved the MVP.

Good overall commentary!

doublem23
11-23-2011, 09:11 AM
Also, my girlfriend has a huge crush on him for some reason.

A girl has a crush on a rich, handsome, successful pro athlete?

:thinking:

It is indeed a mystery.

VenturaFan23
11-23-2011, 10:01 AM
George Costanza's mom was right...."That Braun is a real go-getter!"

Congrats to Ryan Braun.