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Lip Man 1
09-28-2011, 04:22 PM
By the Numbers:

With the departure of Ozzie Guillen, the focus and perhaps the heat now falls squarely on G.M. Kenny Williams. We’ll see what he does this off season to set the Sox franchise back on an upward path. But for right now some numbers and things to consider.

THE PATTERN CONTINUES:

From 2000 through 2006 the Sox never had a losing season. They had six winning ones (00,01,03,04,05,06) and a .500 one (02). That was the longest ‘non-losing’ stretch since back in the ‘Golden Era’ of White Sox baseball, 1951 through 1967 (17 consecutive winning seasons).

Since then however the Sox can’t even put together back to back winning seasons (yet another strong indicator that something is going badly wrong with this franchise) and have found themselves in a bizarre pattern.

2006 = winning season (90 wins)
2007 = losing season
2008 = winning season (89 wins)
2009 = losing season
2010 = winning season (88 wins)
2011 = losing season
2012 = ?????

If the pattern holds the Sox will have a winning season in 2012 with 87 wins.

THE NEW MILLENIUM:

Since opening day 2000 through the end of the 2011 season, here is the Sox overall record:

1,024 wins, 921 losses, .526 winning percentage. They have had eight winning seasons (00, 01, 03, 04, 05, 06, 08, 10), three losing seasons (07, 09, 11 - all in the last five years) and a .500 season. (02)

Average record: 85.3 – 76.7

The Sox have made the postseason three times in that span (00,05,08) winning three divisional crowns and a World Series. The overall post season record in that time is 12-7 (with 11 wins coming in 2005).

KENNY WILLIAMS:

Here is Kenny’s record and how that compares to some of his immediate predecessors:

From the start of the 2001 season through the end of the 2011 season Kenny’s record is 929 wins, 854 losses, .521 winning percentage. He’s overseen seven winning seasons (01,03,04,05,06,08,10), three losing seasons (07,09,11) and a .500 season. (02) The Sox have made two post season appearances in that time winning a World Series. The playoff record in that time frame is 12-4 (with 11 wins coming in 2005.)

Average record: 84.4 – 77.6

Compared to his immediate predecessors:

Ron Schueler: 10 years (1991-2000) 817 wins - 734 losses - .526 winning percentage. Six winning seasons (91,92,93,94,96,00), four losing seasons (95,97,98,99).

The Sox made two playoff appearances (93,00) and had a record of 2-7.

Larry Himes: Four years (1987-1990) 311 wins - 335 losses - .481 winning percentage. One winning season (90), three losing seasons (87,88, 89)
The Sox never made the playoffs under him.

ATTENDENCE:

For the fifth consecutive season, White Sox fan attendance dropped from the previous year.

2006 = 2,957,414
2007 = 2,684,395
2008 = 2,500,648
2009 = 2,284,163
2010 = 2,194,378
2011 = 2,001,262

The change from the end of the 2006 season to the end of the 2011 season is 956,152 fewer fans.

SOME NUMBERS FROM THE 2011 SEASON:

Record: 79-83
Number of games scoring three runs or less: 77 out of 162 (47.5%)
Longest win streak: 5 games
Longest losing streak: 7 games
Number of losses when holding opponent to three runs or less: 15
Extra inning record: 7-11
1-run record: 24-25
2 run record: 13-13
Games lost when leading in the 7th inning or later: 13
(EIGHT of those came in the 9th inning!!!!! Amazing...)
Games won when trailing in the 7th inning or later: 9
Sox were shutout 9 times.
Sox shutout an opponent 14 times.

The Sox had a stretch from April 13 through May 6 where they lost 18 of 22 games.

The Sox had a stretch from September 11 through September 28 where they lost 12 out of 18 games.

Even with the putrid offense for most of the year they still could have easily had a winning record if not for those numerous 9th inning meltdowns that snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.

We’ll see what the off season brings, things haven’t gone well from the start of the 2007 season……… (Sox record in that time is 407-404)

Lip

#1swisher
09-28-2011, 04:25 PM
Doug Padilla: Breaking down Kenny Williams move by move.

http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/white-sox/post/_/id/7958/breaking-down-kenny-williams-move-by-move?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

MtGrnwdSoxFan
09-28-2011, 04:27 PM
Great work, as always.

Seeing those red-highlighted stats depressed the hell out of me. What this season could have been, and now thanks to that, we may be looking at a total rebuild.

Patrick134
09-28-2011, 04:34 PM
The weird thing is, with all those bad numbers, the Sox had a very respectable 43-38 road record. The Yanks and Tigers lead the league with just 2 more road wins than the Sox. Meanwhile the Sox were a putrid 36-45 at home. Only one team (the Twins) had a worse home record. If they had played just .500 at home, the Sox would have been on the fringe of the wild card hunt.

VMSNS
09-28-2011, 04:35 PM
In case anyone is interested in the 2011 White Sox record by month...

April: 10-18
May: 16-13
June: 14-11
July: 12-12
August: 16-12
September: 11-17

Longest losing streak of the season: 7 games (April 13th-20th, and September 11th-17th)
Longest winning streak of the season: 5 games (August 5th-9th)

asindc
09-28-2011, 04:39 PM
Doug Padilla: Breaking down Kenny Williams move by move.

http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/white-sox/post/_/id/7958/breaking-down-kenny-williams-move-by-move?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

The author says letting Maggs walk/signing Dye instead and trading Lee for Pods were bad moves.:o:

asindc
09-28-2011, 04:41 PM
In case anyone is interested in the 2011 White Sox record by month...

April: 10-18
May: 16-13
June: 14-11
July: 12-12
August: 16-12
September: 11-17

Longest losing streak of the season: 7 games (April 13th-20th, and September 11th-17th)
Longest winning streak of the season: 5 games (August 5th-9th)

So if the team had reversed its April and Sept. records, the Sox would most likely be preparing for the playoffs now?

Lip Man 1
09-28-2011, 04:46 PM
Seems to be the pattern the last five years in a row doesn't it?

At best a mediocre start, the last three years have been putrid starts...and a poor finish.

Hard to make any type of postseason plans like that. Except for the golf course.

Lip

Daver
09-28-2011, 04:51 PM
Larry Himes may have had a losing record, but he built the base that all of Schuelers success was based on.

asindc
09-28-2011, 04:51 PM
Seems to be the pattern the last five years in a row doesn't it?

At best a mediocre start, the last three years have been putrid starts...and a poor finish.

Hard to make any type of postseason plans like that. Except for the golf course.

Lip

Yes, a change was needed. Too much of a pattern to be a coincidence.

LITTLE NELL
09-28-2011, 06:05 PM
Yes, a change was needed. Too much of a pattern to be a coincidence.

With Ozzie gone it will be interesting on how prepared this team will be coming out of Spring Training. IMHO Ozzie did not prepare the team where they were ready for the opening bell not only this year but a few more.

Zakath
09-28-2011, 07:22 PM
So if the team had reversed its April and Sept. records, the Sox would most likely be preparing for the playoffs now?

14 more wins if those records are reversed, giving us 93 wins. Now, you'd have to figure out whether some of those wins would have been over the Tigers, but at minimum we would be the wild-card.

samurai_sox
09-28-2011, 07:33 PM
Just curious,

before the Kenny/Ozzie era did the Sox blame the slow starts on the cold weather?

Because thats the excuse the Sox kept feeding us every year.

Brian26
09-28-2011, 07:42 PM
Larry Himes may have had a losing record, but he built the base that all of Schuelers success was based on.

Himes and Al Goldis. Himes made a lot of underrated trades/pickups though (Lance Johnson and Calderon, which parlayed into Raines).

Bruizer
09-29-2011, 12:56 PM
By the Numbers:

Games lost when leading in the 7th inning or later: 13
(EIGHT of those came in the 9th inning!!!!! Amazing...)

Lip

I think I was at all of those games, including yesterday's... :?: