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Lip Man 1
09-25-2011, 04:14 PM
THE PATTERN CONTINUES:

From 2000 through 2006 the Sox never had a losing season. They had six winning ones (00,01,03,04,05,06) and a .500 one (02). That was the longest ‘non-losing’ stretch since back in the ‘Golden Era’ of White Sox baseball, 1951 through 1967 (17 consecutive winning seasons).

Since then however the Sox can’t even put together back to back winning seasons (yet another strong indicator that something is going badly wrong with this franchise) and have found themselves in a bizarre pattern.

2006 = winning season (90 wins)
2007 = losing season
2008 = winning season (89 wins)
2009 = losing season
2010 = winning season (88 wins)
2011 = losing season
2012 = ?????

If the pattern holds the Sox will have a winning season in 2012 with 87 wins. But looking at things as they stand, that's a mighty big 'IF."

Lip

soxfanatlanta
09-25-2011, 07:16 PM
THE PATTERN CONTINUES:

From 2000 through 2006 the Sox never had a losing season. They had six winning ones (00,01,03,04,05,06) and a .500 one (02). That was the longest ‘non-losing’ stretch since back in the ‘Golden Era’ of White Sox baseball, 1951 through 1967 (17 consecutive winning seasons).

Since then however the Sox can’t even put together back to back winning seasons (yet another strong indicator that something is going badly wrong with this franchise) and have found themselves in a bizarre pattern.

2006 = winning season (90 wins)
2007 = losing season
2008 = winning season (89 wins)
2009 = losing season
2010 = winning season (88 wins)
2011 = losing season
2012 = ?????

If the pattern holds the Sox will have a winning season in 2012 with 87 wins. But looking at things as they stand, that's a might big 'IF."

Lip

You are assuming that JR does not do a complete salary dump; if he does, we will be watching AAA baseball for a few years at the least.

SI1020
09-25-2011, 07:21 PM
You are assuming that JR does not do a complete salary dump; if he does, we will be watching AAA baseball for a few years at the least. They have the off season to begin changing my mind, but I'm not really expecting them to. It could be really tough the next few years.

soxfanatlanta
09-25-2011, 07:23 PM
They have the off season to begin changing my mind, but I'm not really expecting them to. It could be really tough the next few years.

Considering the minors is pretty much nil from a talent perspective, you could be right.

Fenway
09-25-2011, 07:53 PM
You are assuming that JR does not do a complete salary dump; if he does, we will be watching AAA baseball for a few years at the least.

Or as Bill Madden in the NY Daily News hints - sell

(Madden hears Rocky might be involved and don't forget McDonough grew up a White Sox fan)

FarmerAndy
09-25-2011, 09:08 PM
THE PATTERN CONTINUES:

From 2000 through 2006 the Sox never had a losing season. They had six winning ones (00,01,03,04,05,06) and a .500 one (02). That was the longest ‘non-losing’ stretch since back in the ‘Golden Era’ of White Sox baseball, 1951 through 1967 (17 consecutive winning seasons).

Since then however the Sox can’t even put together back to back winning seasons (yet another strong indicator that something is going badly wrong with this franchise) and have found themselves in a bizarre pattern.

2006 = winning season (90 wins)
2007 = losing season
2008 = winning season (89 wins)
2009 = losing season
2010 = winning season (88 wins)
2011 = losing season
2012 = ?????

If the pattern holds the Sox will have a winning season in 2012 with 87 wins. But looking at things as they stand, that's a mighty big 'IF."

Lip

As far as I'm concerned, any season that you don't make the playoffs is a losing season.

A. Cavatica
09-25-2011, 09:27 PM
:fireozzie:sellreinsy:firejerry:fireward:firepetti s

gosox41
09-25-2011, 09:37 PM
Or as Bill Madden in the NY Daily News hints - sell

(Madden hears Rocky might be involved and don't forget McDonough grew up a White Sox fan)

Huh?

HangWiffum
09-25-2011, 09:50 PM
i'm assuming he's saying Rocky Wirtz would buy the sox and make John McDonough team president

Lip Man 1
09-25-2011, 09:51 PM
Farmer:

I understand your definition and in many ways I agree with it, considering the advantages the Sox have over the other teams in the division and in theory a better chance to dominate it and get to the post season often.

The reality is though that hasn't happened...so I take solace where I can. I don't look down on a "winning season" considering how hard it's been for some teams to have even one of them.

Why the Sox can't put something together like Cleveland in the 90's and Minnesota in the 00's is beyond me.

It seems no matter what the Sox do they always seem to come up short somewhere, which given typical White Sox luck, always seems to bite them on the ass and cost them big time.

Lip

Lip Man 1
09-25-2011, 09:53 PM
I think gosox's comment was based more on 'what's Madden been drinking?..'

Lip

Nellie_Fox
09-26-2011, 12:13 AM
As far as I'm concerned, any season that you don't make the playoffs is a losing season.This isn't the NBA, although they seem to want to move in that direction.

Daver
09-26-2011, 12:35 AM
This isn't the NBA, although they seem to want to move in that direction.

MLB does allow also rans to make the playoffs nowadays.

kufram
09-26-2011, 10:35 AM
MLB does allow also rans to make the playoffs nowadays.

The playoffs were a great expansion of post season play. I'd hate to see it ruined by letting more teams get into the post season which I suppose would mean playing into mid-November. They are expanding by one more team for each league soon.... how long before the extra revenue makes them add more teams? I'd like to see the White Sox in the post season more but not as a best of the mediocre scenario.

Nellie_Fox
09-26-2011, 11:21 AM
I'd hate to see it ruined by letting more teams get into the post season which I suppose would mean playing into mid-November. Thanksgiving baseball baby! Have Madden there to give out turkey legs!