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thomas35forever
09-20-2011, 12:43 PM
Don't look now, but the Cardinals are only 2 1/2 games behind the Braves, who have been in the driver's seat basically all year. What's happened to them?:scratch:

ComiskeyBrewer
09-20-2011, 03:53 PM
They have destroyed their bullpen by overpitching the young guys. Vinters, Krimbel and O Flahrey(sp?) are 3 of the top 4 in relief innings pitched at 77, 76 and 74 respectively. They are paying for it now.

Fenway
09-20-2011, 04:05 PM
Major sidebar here that could concern the White Sox.

If everything we have read both in Chicago and nationally is correct that while JR would not want to fire Ozzie he will let the GM decide.

Most national writers seem to think the White Sox will let Ozzie go to Miami and in turns paves the way for LaRussa to come back after 25 years.

Would KW even want Tony? Well he is well aware the Chairman and LaRussa are close friends.

But if the Cards make the playoffs it will make it that much harder for Tony to leave.

ComiskeyBrewer
09-20-2011, 05:12 PM
Not to mention, ATL has a harder schedule left(2 @ FLA, 3 @ WASH, 3 vs PHI), than STL(3 vs Mets, Cubs, 3 @ HOU).

PKalltheway
09-21-2011, 11:11 AM
Major sidebar here that could concern the White Sox.

If everything we have read both in Chicago and nationally is correct that while JR would not want to fire Ozzie he will let the GM decide.

Most national writers seem to think the White Sox will let Ozzie go to Miami and in turns paves the way for LaRussa to come back after 25 years.

Would KW even want Tony? Well he is well aware the Chairman and LaRussa are close friends.

But if the Cards make the playoffs it will make it that much harder for Tony to leave.

I don't think that would be the best of decisions to bring Tony in. While he doesn't quite have the "foot-in-mouth" syndrome that Ozzie has, his ego is just as big, if not bigger. I think KW would butt heads with LaRussa just as much as he has with Ozzie. If I were them, I would pass if the opportunity ever presented itself.

SI1020
09-21-2011, 12:51 PM
They have destroyed their bullpen by overpitching the young guys. Vinters, Krimbel and O Flahrey(sp?) are 3 of the top 4 in relief innings pitched at 77, 76 and 74 respectively. They are paying for it now. An incredible strain on a pitcher's arm. Fire the manager.

SoxSpeed22
09-21-2011, 07:52 PM
The king of empty stats is stifling the Braves, while the Cards take an early lead on the Mets. This should get interesting.

Tragg
09-21-2011, 09:18 PM
I hope the Giants sneak past them all.

soxfanatlanta
09-22-2011, 07:15 AM
They have destroyed their bullpen by overpitching the young guys. Vinters, Krimbel and O Flahrey(sp?) are 3 of the top 4 in relief innings pitched at 77, 76 and 74 respectively. They are paying for it now.

Jurrjens and Hansen have spend significant time on the DL, and Lowe is having a very bad year; I'm amazed that the pen held up for as long as it did. I went to the game on Sunday: all the pitchers looked exhausted from Beachy to Kimbrel. Add the fact that the bats have been pretty silent all year (is Heward a bust?) and you have a recipe for a classic September meltdown.

I'd love to see some October baseball at the Ted, but I just don't think they have anything left in the tanks.

DSpivack
09-26-2011, 09:35 PM
Braves lost again tonight, Cardinals were losing 4-2 in the 8th in Houston, but with 2 men on Lance Berkman comes up with a huge 2-run double to tie it.

Could both wild card races be tied tonight?

So much for the lack of a race this month.

chisoxfanatic
09-26-2011, 09:50 PM
How would MLB handle 2 tie-breakers on the same night? Would TBS pick up one of them and the MLB Network the other?

Fenway
09-26-2011, 09:52 PM
How would MLB handle 2 tie-breakers on the same night? Would TBS pick up one of them and the MLB Network the other?
5 PM and 8 PM on TBS with TNT doing overflow

sox1970
09-26-2011, 09:52 PM
How would MLB handle 2 tie-breakers on the same night? Would TBS pick up one of them and the MLB Network the other?

I would bet TBS would have both. One at 4pm. One at 7 or 8pm

DSpivack
09-26-2011, 11:17 PM
Cardinals tied it in the 9th, but blow it in extras.

Braves still up 1 game.

Zakath
09-27-2011, 06:54 PM
Braves losing at home 3-0 to Phillies.

vinny
09-27-2011, 08:46 PM
Braves lose; Cards and Astros tied at 5 in the 5th.

guillensdisciple
09-27-2011, 09:16 PM
Pulling for the Cards. Nothing against the Braves.

DSpivack
09-27-2011, 09:16 PM
Astros take the lead, up 6-5 in the 6th.

vinny
09-27-2011, 09:37 PM
Cards score 4 in the 7th after 2 are out and lead 9-6.

Zakath
09-27-2011, 10:24 PM
Cards score 4 in the 7th after 2 are out and lead 9-6.

Add three more in the eighth to make it 12-6.

Cardinals throwing Carpenter tomorrow, to either get the tie or take the wild card.

SOXPHILE
09-28-2011, 08:47 AM
Go Cardinals Go.

Viva Medias B's
09-28-2011, 09:35 AM
Go Redbirds!

chisox616
09-28-2011, 02:02 PM
Got tickets for the tiebreaker at Busch (if needed). As much as I'd like to see them clinch it tonight... boy, attending a Game 163 would be something else. Especially since I was at Mizzou for Game 163 in 2008.

WhiteSox5187
09-28-2011, 08:49 PM
Cardinals are up big (I think the Astros only have two hits) but Atlanta is holding a one run lead with a runner on first and nobody out in the top of the ninth.

thomas35forever
09-28-2011, 08:55 PM
Wow. The whole country gets to see why the Braves are blowing it.

Soxman219
09-28-2011, 08:55 PM
Utley could end it right here.

soxnut1018
09-28-2011, 08:56 PM
And they're loaded.

WhiteSox5187
09-28-2011, 08:56 PM
Utley could end it right here.

Tied it up.

thomas35forever
09-28-2011, 08:58 PM
Kimbrel is all over the place.

doublem23
09-28-2011, 09:00 PM
Kimbrel is all over the place.

79th appearance of the season, no wonder this kid is gassed

thomas35forever
09-28-2011, 09:03 PM
79th appearance of the season, no wonder this kid is gassed
This is going to be a big learning experience for Gonzalez. You can't rely on the same relief arms all year. I just hope these young guys' arms aren't ruined before all is said and done.

doublem23
09-28-2011, 09:10 PM
Jason Heyward just looked like hot garbage in that at bat. I basically don't follow the National League, so I was surprised to look at his stats and see he's had a pretty ****ty year. The hell happened to him?

soxnut1018
09-28-2011, 09:11 PM
Only fitting that this game goes to extras.

doublem23
09-28-2011, 09:12 PM
Only fitting that this game goes to extras.

I suspect Philadelphia's not too wild about that

DeadMoney
09-28-2011, 09:14 PM
I suspect Philadelphia's not too wild about that

Yeah, I don't see them running too many (or any important) bullpen arms out there.

thomas35forever
09-28-2011, 09:34 PM
Wow, what a catch.

soxnut1018
09-28-2011, 09:35 PM
Wow, what a catch.

Definitely. I didn't think he had a chance of the bat.

Lip Man 1
09-28-2011, 09:37 PM
Heyward has been fighting some sort of a shoulder injury.

Lip

Hendu
09-28-2011, 10:31 PM
Linebrink.

vinny
09-28-2011, 10:39 PM
Linebrink.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-rijlydjaORE/TmmVivepZ-I/AAAAAAAAALM/zVkpDx_1t9I/s1600/darthVader.jpg
Now his failure is complete.

doublem23
09-28-2011, 10:41 PM
Braves lose. Season over

PKalltheway
09-28-2011, 10:53 PM
Chip Caray and Joe Simpson were dead silent at the end of the game. It was almost eerie in a way. What a collapse. I loathe the Cardinals, but they earned it.

vinny
09-28-2011, 11:02 PM
Braves 9-18 in September. Cards 18-8. Unbelievable.

PaleHoser
09-28-2011, 11:03 PM
Braves had 8.5 game lead for Wild Card on September 1st. That has to hurt.

happydude
09-28-2011, 11:11 PM
Braves 9-18 in September. Cards 18-8. Unbelievable.

Braves had 8.5 game lead for Wild Card on September 1st. That has to hurt.

Its shocking that both they and the Red Sox, in the same year, gave up September leads of historic proportions to close out the season...

ComiskeyBrewer
09-28-2011, 11:30 PM
In the Boston Herald sports front and center is:

Mentioning how the Braves colossal collapse is complete. However, no mention of the Red Sox..............:scratch:

DSpivack
09-28-2011, 11:49 PM
In the Boston Herald sports front and center is:

Mentioning how the Braves colossal collapse is complete. However, no mention of the Red Sox..............:scratch:

The Braves started off in Boston, so it's kind of like Boston choking twice, no? :tongue:

WhiteSox5187
09-29-2011, 12:07 AM
The Braves started off in Boston, so it's kind of like Boston choking twice, no? :tongue:

Ooh, I like the way you're thinking!

asindc
09-29-2011, 08:19 AM
The Braves started off in Boston, so it's kind of like Boston choking twice, no? :tongue:

Good observation!