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Fenway
08-18-2011, 01:45 PM
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The Mayor being a Cubs fan seems to be helping things along

bridgeportcopper
08-18-2011, 04:05 PM
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The Mayor being a Cubs fan seems to be helping things along


Supposedly Emmanuel (?) not a big baseball fan....Cubs just the northside team so he is a fan of convenience. (He was a ballerina(o) you know?) Anyways, I seriously doubt in this turbulent economy that they get a penny. Rahm is proving himself to be a pretty tough cookie with the funds thus far.

DumpJerry
08-18-2011, 04:20 PM
Reading between the lines, it sounds like the current administration waits ten minutes before laughing at the Cubs' proposal while the previous administration was already chuckling while walking into the meeting......

BleacherBandit
08-18-2011, 09:37 PM
They should just make the move to Naperville.


The Naperville Cubs.

Mohoney
08-18-2011, 09:40 PM
Can't Bud just approve an interest-free loan from MLB General Funds?

doublem23
08-18-2011, 09:49 PM
Supposedly Emmanuel (?) not a big baseball fan....Cubs just the northside team so he is a fan of convenience. (He was a ballerina(o) you know?) Anyways, I seriously doubt in this turbulent economy that they get a penny. Rahm is proving himself to be a pretty tough cookie with the funds thus far.

You're not having a good day today

hi im skot
08-18-2011, 10:11 PM
Supposedly Emmanuel (?) not a big baseball fan....Cubs just the northside team so he is a fan of convenience. (He was a ballerina(o) you know?)

You're not having a good day today

http://blog.pennlive.com/pennsyltucky/2008/03/Lynn%20Swann030708.jpg

"Seriously, what the hell is that supposed to mean?"

DSpivack
08-18-2011, 10:17 PM
They should just make the move to Naperville.


The Naperville Cubs.

Schamburg has a baseball stadium, next to an expressway with dimensions nearly the same as Wrigley, currently sitting empty.

LongLiveFisk
08-18-2011, 10:26 PM
They should just make the move to Naperville.


The Naperville Cubs.


Dear God no.

I work in Naperville.

DumpJerry
08-18-2011, 10:34 PM
New Delhi, India would like a MLB franchise.......

Nellie_Fox
08-19-2011, 12:09 AM
Dear God no.

I work in Naperville.Even without it being the Cubs, the traffic in Naperville is already unbearable. There's no place they could put a major-league ballpark without grinding the entire city to a halt.

MUsoxfan
08-19-2011, 01:03 AM
Judging from his actions thus far, Da Mare isn't about to bail Ricketts out. Tom did this to himself, now he has to bear responsibility

grv1974
08-19-2011, 01:30 AM
Schamburg has a baseball stadium, next to an expressway with dimensions nearly the same as Wrigley, currently sitting empty.

I thought of Alexian Field, too. (or whatever it's called these days) Also, just like the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim..........they could be called the Chicago Cubs of Schaumburg.

g0g0
08-19-2011, 09:40 AM
No way the Cubs are going to be anything else besides the Chicago Cubs. I know you guys hate it, but if you ask about Chicago and baseball (for better or worse), you'll get Cubs 99% of the time. They are synonymous with the city.

doublem23
08-19-2011, 09:45 AM
No way the Cubs are going to be anything else besides the Chicago Cubs. I know you guys hate it, but if you ask about Chicago and baseball (for better or worse), you'll get Cubs 99% of the time. They are synonymous with the city.

Right, and I would think the Ricketts are smart enough to know that a big chunk of the team's appeal comes from Wrigley and the Wrigleyville experience. It's simply unlike almost anything you can find in the Majors any more.

As a city resident, I'm fine with the whole thing. If millions of people from the burbs and beyond want to come to Chicago every year and drop a ton of money, I'm fine with it. Chicago is only one of three cities left that has all it's major sports teams playing in the city proper, it would be a shame if we lost that distinction.

g0g0
08-19-2011, 09:48 AM
Right, and I would think the Ricketts are smart enough to know that a big chunk of the team's appeal comes from Wrigley and the Wrigleyville experience. It's simply unlike almost anything you can find in the Majors any more.

As a city resident, I'm fine with the whole thing. If millions of people from the burbs and beyond want to come to Chicago every year and drop a ton of money, I'm fine with it. Chicago is only one of three cities left that has all it's major sports teams playing in the city proper, it would be a shame if we lost that distinction.

+1 Well said.

Fenway
08-19-2011, 09:59 AM
I do think the city needs to free Ricketts and the Cubs of some of the landmark restrictions imposed. Their lack of in-stadium ads is a major revenue stream denied to them.

The TRIBUNE didn't care because with no debt service the team was a cash cow...now the Cubs are bleeding red ink with the stadium issue needing to be addressed before it falls down.

bridgeportcopper
08-19-2011, 10:08 AM
+1 Well said.


+2 Harumph!

1908<2005
08-19-2011, 11:06 AM
The Cell was publically funded as well. Like it or not, Wrigley Field is a nice source of tourism money for the city and a nicer Wrigley will just bring in more tourists to the city.

soltrain21
08-19-2011, 11:12 AM
The Cell was publically funded as well. Like it or not, Wrigley Field is a nice source of tourism money for the city and a nicer Wrigley will just bring in more tourists to the city.

But the White Sox don't own US Cellular. Ricketts OWNS Wrigley Field.

SOXPHILE
08-19-2011, 11:15 AM
The Cell was publically funded as well. Like it or not, Wrigley Field is a nice source of tourism money for the city and a nicer Wrigley will just bring in more tourists to the city.

That is true, and I remember being unhappy about that situation back in 1990-1991 when the stadium was built and opened.

However, the White Sox do not own Comiskey Park/U.S. Cellular. They pay rent. With the Cubs, they own Wrigley Field. It's theirs.

Fenway
08-19-2011, 11:16 AM
But the White Sox don't own US Cellular. Ricketts OWNS Wrigley Field.

But the White Sox DID own Comiskey Park....and the bartering began

doublem23
08-19-2011, 11:17 AM
But the White Sox don't own US Cellular. Ricketts OWNS Wrigley Field.

That's true, but the Sox owned old Comiskey, didn't they, and they got the state to build them a new park and give them a sweetheart lease on the stadium. The Sox might actually be better off not owning the park, for all we know.

slavko
08-19-2011, 01:15 PM
That's true, but the Sox owned old Comiskey, didn't they, and they got the state to build them a new park and give them a sweetheart lease on the stadium. The Sox might actually be better off not owning the park, for all we know.

Any arrangement would have to be a loan which the Club would pay off from revenues over time. I can't see shared ownership or the Club relinquishing ownership.

Frontman
08-23-2011, 09:16 AM
Exactly. Most ballparks/stadiums are lease agreements; with the team having a lot of say in what happens there. Wrigley is owned outright by the Ricketts.

I can't believe I'm typing this, but I agree with Dan Bernstein. If the team wants 200,000,000 like other teams (including the Sox) have done in the past, they need to give up at least partial ownership and give the city a direct source of income for its investment.