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Lip Man 1
08-12-2011, 06:07 PM
Daver will be pleased.

http://www.sportsillustratedeverywhere.com/issues/protected/com.timeinc.si.web.inapp.08152011/trevor-bauer-will-not-be-babied-8833.html


Pitch counts, restrictions on long toss, not throwing everyday seem to be going out the window. The latest example, Trevor Bauer.

Pretty fascinating story.

Lip

eastchicagosoxfan
08-12-2011, 06:55 PM
I haven't read the article yet, but common sense dictates that some of the guys should be able to go nine in around 50% of their starts. Ironicaly, I was looking at some stats this morning of games started and complete games. Without going back to review, Fergie Jenkins and Bob Gibson finished a bit over 50% of their starts. I think Robin Roberts was a bit below. (I had Jim Bunning here, and for some reason I can't separate Bunning from Roberts) They're HOF'ers, but I'm sure their teamates were around 40%. Of course the farther you go back, the higher percentage of complete games. I was astounded to see John Clarkson complete all but six of his 600 starts. While the game has changed from 1885 to today, arms are the same. Training and medical knowledge are lightyears ahead of the 1960's, let alone the 1880's.

Fenway
08-13-2011, 09:57 AM
Nolan Ryan banished pitch counts with the Rangers 2 years ago

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/columnist/thorne/2009-04-26-thorne-column_N.htm

A year later they win their first pennant

Daver
08-15-2011, 08:46 PM
Daver will be pleased.

http://www.sportsillustratedeverywhere.com/issues/protected/com.timeinc.si.web.inapp.08152011/trevor-bauer-will-not-be-babied-8833.html


Pitch counts, restrictions on long toss, not throwing everyday seem to be going out the window. The latest example, Trevor Bauer.

Pretty fascinating story.


That's just crazy talk, everyone knows that it is a proven fact that pitchers are the only ballplayers that have regressed in stamina and endurance in the last century, and even moreso in the last forty years.

And don't even get me started on the value of unproven pitching prospects, every single one of them is worth twice his weight in platinum.

PatK
08-16-2011, 04:04 PM
Can't read article

gobears1987
08-16-2011, 04:29 PM
I think pitch counts should remain in use for injury prone pitchers like Jake Peavy. However, when you have a pitcher like Mark Buehrle, just forget about the damn thing and let him throw so long as he is effective.