View Full Version : Marmol out as Cubs closer

07-15-2011, 10:36 PM
Sounds like closer by committee.


07-15-2011, 10:40 PM
Now Cubs fans know how we felt about Thornton.

07-16-2011, 12:16 AM
Will he still celebrate wildly when he gets two guys out in the 7th inning while trailing 5-3?

07-16-2011, 12:54 PM
His fastball velocity over the last 6 weeks or so is down to 90-91 and he only throws it chest high in hopes that the batter will chase it. He has zero confidence in the heater right now (and for good reason) and has become a one pitch pitcher. When hitters look for one single pitch you better have excellent control with that pitch, which he obviously does not.

07-16-2011, 03:10 PM
Further evidence why Mariano Rivera is one of, if not the best closer baseball has seen.

07-16-2011, 05:03 PM
I don't watch much Cub baseball, but his slider doesn't break near what it did last year, based on the highlights of the last blown save.

07-16-2011, 10:24 PM
Is this attributable to one of the three dozen or so current curses the Cubs are toiling under or are we looking at a new curse as to why the Cubs suck?

07-17-2011, 09:58 AM
I said ever since he started doing well as a pitcher that his reliance on his slider was going to be his downfall. When he came up, he had an excellent fastball and used it much more. His slider was more of his out pitch.

Sliders are tough on the arm, and seeing as how his velocity and control has dropped, I think something may be up. IMO, having the slider as your main pitch is asking for trouble when you're a converted fielder.

It will be interesting comparing the careers of Marmol and Sergio Santos in a couple of years, since they are both converted fielders, where Sergio is more of a fastball/curveball guy and Carlos a fastball/slider

07-17-2011, 08:01 PM
But we should trade Sale, Santos, and Beckham for Marmol!