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johnnyg83
07-04-2011, 10:30 PM
What the hellfire. Look at those crazy batting stats

http://www.baseball-reference.com/awards/awards_2000.shtml#NLmvp

Richard Hidalgo finishes 20TH(!) with .314/44/122. And .391/.636/1.028

soxfanreggie
07-04-2011, 10:59 PM
Just looking at stats, Sosa (we know how he got them) had amazing stats and it's surprising to see him in 9th. Helton though...batting over .370 with 42 HRs and 147 RBIs...and he's 5th?!?!? :o: Especially with the highest WAR in the top-20 on the NL side.

I prefer not to think of this year though because if you scroll up, you see a great injustice in baseball history.

tstrike2000
07-04-2011, 11:01 PM
What the hellfire. Look at those crazy batting stats

http://www.baseball-reference.com/awards/awards_2000.shtml#NLmvp

Richard Hidalgo finishes 20TH(!) with .314/44/122. And .391/.636/1.028

Jeff Kent had a fine year, but not sure how he won it.

soxfanreggie
07-04-2011, 11:25 PM
Jeff Kent had a fine year, but not sure how he won it.

Especially with his teammate, Barry Bonds, in 2nd place.

johnnyg83
07-05-2011, 12:03 AM
I wonder if this was the year the media sort of figured it out.

Hidalgo's stats outside this year are staggeringly different.

doublem23
07-05-2011, 12:14 AM
I, of course, had to scroll up and check out the AL voting for that year.

Ugh.

:chunks

johnnyg83
07-05-2011, 12:17 AM
I, of course, had to scroll up and check out the AL voting for that year.

Ugh.

:chunks


So much for my "media figured it out theory" ... the steroid era was like internet bubble ... all this money and nothing behind it ... and no one takes it seriously

SephClone89
07-05-2011, 03:05 AM
I have literally no memory of Richard Hidalgo.

19 major leaguers with an OPS of 1.000 that year. Wow. Five last year, including Thome.

russ99
07-05-2011, 08:53 AM
I wonder if this was the year the media sort of figured it out.

Hidalgo's stats outside this year are staggeringly different.

Nope, he was 19th in MVP voting 3 years later.

Hidalgo was a top prospect for the Astros, but his knees went out on him early in his career due to a congenital problem. There's been no evidence at all to assume PEDs.

Also, he came from the same Astros' Venezuelan academy that produced Magglio, and was considered the second best player to come from there.

bridgeportcopper
07-05-2011, 10:31 AM
Scroll down for more zaniness, Kelly Wunsch was 5th in ROY voting & look who was AL Manager of the Year! Must've been a Y2K glitch.

asindc
07-05-2011, 10:51 AM
I, of course, had to scroll up and check out the AL voting for that year.

Ugh.

The thing about the 2000 AL MVP vote is that it is a correctable abomination... if Giambi would just come clean about what he apologized for. Jerk.

guillensdisciple
07-05-2011, 01:19 PM
Todd Helton had to have juiced.

soltrain21
07-05-2011, 01:37 PM
Todd Helton had to have juiced.

Then you better say Frank Thomas "had to have juiced."

sullythered
07-05-2011, 02:43 PM
Todd Helton had to have juiced.

Why? I see no evidence of that. He put up much gaudier numbers over the course of his career in the thin air of Colorado and he declined appropriately with age.

Foulke You
07-05-2011, 03:43 PM
Why? I see no evidence of that. He put up much gaudier numbers over the course of his career in the thin air of Colorado and he declined appropriately with age.
Agreed. It's *possible* but he has never been linked to anything. Another thing to remember is that this was the "pre-humidor" era of Coors Field. The ball absolutely launched out of that ballpark. They coudn't find any free agent pitchers back then who wanted to sign there because of the ballpark.

PaleHoser
07-05-2011, 04:47 PM
Check the AL Cy Young voting. Talk about "sick" numbers - reference Pedro Martinez, even with the Steroid Era and the DH in Fenway Park no less.