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wilburaga
05-25-2011, 04:05 PM
When Rivera becomes eligible for the Hall, (probably 50 years from now at the rate he's going), any writer who doesn't select him on the first ballot should be stripped of his voting privileges.

ComiskeyBrewer
05-25-2011, 07:58 PM
there will be at least one, because for some reason, baseball writers don't think any one player should get 100% of the votes(i think that happened for Gwynn a few years ago).

Soxfest
05-25-2011, 08:28 PM
Mariano is a stud and a 1st ballot HOF............Clutch as there ever has been in the 9th inning.

miker
05-25-2011, 08:55 PM
How many innings?

Still, you can't argue with the results. Best one pitch specialist ever?

palehozenychicty
05-26-2011, 04:39 AM
There are closers. Then there is Mariano.

wilburaga
05-26-2011, 09:33 AM
there will be at least one, because for some reason, baseball writers don't think any one player should get 100% of the votes(i think that happened for Gwynn a few years ago).

I'm not sure about this. Seaver has the highest all-time first ballot percentage (98.84), garnering 425 out of 430 votes. I cannot imagine Mariano not topping this. I don't think any writer would want the scorn and ridicule of being the only holdout for Rivera's perfect induction.

soxfanreggie
05-26-2011, 09:55 AM
I'm not sure about this. Seaver has the highest all-time first ballot percentage (98.84), garnering 425 out of 430 votes. I cannot imagine Mariano not topping this. I don't think any writer would want the scorn and ridicule of being the only holdout for Rivera's perfect induction.

I completely agree on Mariano. He will be known for his position for a long time to come.

There are several people I think who would hit 99% or more besides Mariano (or would have hit it without steroid scandals), and several of them have played over the last twenty years:

Pujols - he's the greatest player of the 2000s for a reason. No real need to go over his resume.

Greg Maddux - 4 straight Cy Youngs (dominance at his position, even though he wasn't a K pitcher); 15 wins for 17 straight years (consistency); defense (18 Gold Gloves!); winner (World Series, playoffs, games - 8th all time); and he still struck out over 3,000 hitters. There is a reason both Chicago and Atlanta retired his number. He was that darn good. Doug Mapson hit it out of the park when he convinced the Cubs to take Mad Dog.

For the articial enhancers:
A-Rod or Barry Bonds if they stayed clean, as both had the talent to do great things without artificial enhancement.

downstairs
05-26-2011, 11:42 AM
No one will EVER get 100% of the vote. Its just the way writers are. They love the very few things in life where they have real power over something. And quite a few of them will NEVER vote in a player on his first ballot.

Not that I agree with it, just stating facts.

Babe Ruth got 95% of the vote!

(Two negro league players got 100% but that's different... there was a stigma attached to that, and it wasn't a normal vote... it wasn't writers that voted.)

doublem23
05-26-2011, 11:59 AM
No one will EVER get 100% of the vote. Its just the way writers are. They love the very few things in life where they have real power over something. And quite a few of them will NEVER vote in a player on his first ballot.

Not that I agree with it, just stating facts.

Babe Ruth got 95% of the vote!

(Two negro league players got 100% but that's different... there was a stigma attached to that, and it wasn't a normal vote... it wasn't writers that voted.)

Lou Gehrig also supposedly recieved 100% of the vote after he died, but again, not the standard BBWAA ballot and I think they've never actually released his induction ballot numbers.

tacosalbarojas
05-26-2011, 12:13 PM
I'm not sure about this. Seaver has the highest all-time first ballot percentage (98.84), garnering 425 out of 430 votes. I cannot imagine Mariano not topping this. I don't think any writer would want the scorn and ridicule of being the only holdout for Rivera's perfect induction.
True, unless wilburaga somehow got ahold of a vote.

Bob Roarman
05-27-2011, 09:01 AM
How many innings?

Still, you can't argue with the results. Best one pitch specialist ever?

Easy. That's not giving him enough credit.