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Fenway
05-15-2011, 07:32 AM
The Flubs come to Boston next weekend and the Globe looks back to 1918 - and makes a big error.

Let's see how long it takes for the crack WSI editors to find it

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2011/05/15/cubs_at_fenway_classic_stuff/?p1=Well_Sports_links

Brian26
05-15-2011, 08:05 AM
"the Cubs chose to play at Wrigley instead of Comiskey" ???

doublem23
05-15-2011, 08:06 AM
Eh, I caught it and it's not really that big of a deal. There's no storyline here, other than the Fenway/Wrigley angle, so I can't blame the Globe for blatantly rewriting history to try and up the hype for what should otherwise be a regular old interleague series.

Fenway
05-15-2011, 08:32 AM
"the Cubs chose to play at Wrigley instead of Comiskey" ???

In fact they did play at Comiskey and that is where the Star Spangled Banner was first played at a game.

SoxandtheCityTee
05-15-2011, 11:30 AM
I guess it'd be hopelessly old-fashioned to say that a major newspaper making such an error on an easily checked fact is kind of a big deal, which only means that it would have earned me a bad grade on the article in my high school journalism class. But the way they said it -- offering a reasoning for the wrong fact -- that's weird.

Maybe Ricketts offered them some money to get it wrong and then bury the correction. Myth-making is money-making in the land of the Blue Pajamas these days; how to survive the shock-horror if it became known that the Flubs CHOSE to play the WS at Comiskey? All those hats that say "Wrigley 1908" would have to have "but not 1918" added on.

DrCrawdad
05-15-2011, 03:03 PM
The Flubs come to Boston next weekend and the Globe looks back to 1918 - and makes a big error.

Let's see how long it takes for the crack WSI editors to find it

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2011/05/15/cubs_at_fenway_classic_stuff/?p1=Well_Sports_links

That's funny! I guess they were just following the lead of the Cubune. A few weeks ago they had a photo of then owner, Charlie Weeghman and manager Fred Mitchell. (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/breaking/cbsports-deposition-hints-cubs-may-have-thrown-1918-world-series-20110420,0,5011431.story) The caption said that it was during the regular season at Wrigley Field. It was clearly Comiskey Park, with the arched windows in the background. Topped off there was bunting around the field. I posted a message pointing out these inconvenient facts. How did the Cubune respond? They cropped out the arched windows and bunting then stuck an altered caption that was essentially the same, that it's Wrigley Field.

Here is the original, unedited photo.

Taliesinrk
05-15-2011, 07:12 PM
That's funny! I guess they were just following the lead of the Cubune. A few weeks ago they had a photo of then owner, Charlie Weeghman and manager Fred Mitchell. (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/breaking/cbsports-deposition-hints-cubs-may-have-thrown-1918-world-series-20110420,0,5011431.story) The caption said that it was during the regular season at Wrigley Field. It was clearly Comiskey Park, with the arched windows in the background. Topped off there was bunting around the field. I posted a message pointing out these inconvenient facts. How did the Cubune respond? They cropped out the arched windows and bunting then stuck an altered caption that was essentially the same, that it's Wrigley Field.

Here is the original, unedited photo.

Hahaha. that's pretty funny.

miker
05-15-2011, 07:54 PM
Never let the facts get in the way of a good story...

DrCrawdad
05-16-2011, 08:13 AM
Never let the facts get in the way of a good story...

Hahaha. that's pretty funny.

It is funny.

Which ballpark do you think this is...

http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=7052&d=1305489698

Hitmen77
05-16-2011, 11:07 AM
I bought a Baseball Hall of Fame calendar a few years ago and one of the items of baseball history in the calendar was about the 1918 WS and they said it was played at Wrigley Field. I know it's a rather obscure bit of trivia for most fans, but I was disappointed that the Hall Of Fame couldn't get that right.


That's funny! I guess they were just following the lead of the Cubune. A few weeks ago they had a photo of then owner, Charlie Weeghman and manager Fred Mitchell. (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/breaking/cbsports-deposition-hints-cubs-may-have-thrown-1918-world-series-20110420,0,5011431.story) The caption said that it was during the regular season at Wrigley Field. It was clearly Comiskey Park, with the arched windows in the background. Topped off there was bunting around the field. I posted a message pointing out these inconvenient facts. How did the Cubune respond? They cropped out the arched windows and bunting then stuck an altered caption that was essentially the same, that it's Wrigley Field.

Here is the original, unedited photo.

:rolling: :rolling:

That's hilarious. Someone at the Trib actually did that? In response to your comment, they cropped the evidence out of the picture instead of correcting their factual error? Incredible.

DrCrawdad
05-16-2011, 08:29 PM
I bought a Baseball Hall of Fame calendar a few years ago and one of the items of baseball history in the calendar was about the 1918 WS and they said it was played at Wrigley Field. I know it's a rather obscure bit of trivia for most fans, but I was disappointed that the Hall Of Fame couldn't get that right.


:rolling: :rolling:

That's hilarious. Someone at the Trib actually did that? In response to your comment, they cropped the evidence out of the picture instead of correcting their factual error? Incredible.

I posted my comment on the picture & caption. Then they cropped the photo and slightly altered the caption. I'm sure they did it in response to my post but they never acknowledged my post.

Here's another funny thing, they didn't have to crop the photo. All they had to do was change the caption to: "Charlie Wheeghman and manager, Fred Mitchell, 1918" That would be correct, without having to determine whether it was Wrigley or not. But either way, it is clearly Comiskey Park. Weeghman Park did not then nor does it now have arched windows.

Another point of fact, there was no place called "Wrigley Field" in 1918. It was Weeghman Park then.

Cubune, "still weasels after all these years..."

SoxandtheCityTee
05-17-2011, 03:00 PM
Will they nod along with Winken and Blinken, or accurately report that the 1918 games were played at Comiskey?

If they get it wrong the on-air folk may get blown up with texts & tweets embarassing them during the broadcast. Still, what do the facts matter when the fake nostalgia and emotional story of it all are so huge?

Taliesinrk
05-17-2011, 05:46 PM
It is funny.

Which ballpark do you think this is...

http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=7052&d=1305489698

Looks like Comiskey to me...

EnglishChiSox
05-20-2011, 11:16 AM
MLB.com is doing it now http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20110518&content_id=19231608&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb

The twitter handle of the writer is on there, might be worth someone pointing it out to him, how could so many get it so wrong?

miker
05-20-2011, 12:28 PM
how could so many get it so wrong?

If you tell a lie often enough...

TommyJohn
05-20-2011, 01:22 PM
MLB.com is doing it now http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20110518&content_id=19231608&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb

The twitter handle of the writer is on there, might be worth someone pointing it out to him, how could so many get it so wrong?


Guess they don't want the foul stench of the south side and Comiskey Park to be associated with the Cubbies. But seriously, I am wondering this as well. How does MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL, INC. (referring to Hitmen77's calendar) get this wrong? Do they have an opening for Fact Checker? I want to submit my resume.

Taliesinrk
05-20-2011, 02:05 PM
Think Levine should cite WSI as his source? Or could he have known that all by himself? http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/cubs/post/_/id/4346/cubs-played-1918-world-series-at-comiskey

FielderJones
05-20-2011, 02:32 PM
in late December 1913 Weeghman secured a ninety-nine year lease on the property.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Wrigley_Field

Who owns that land, Lutheran Theological Seminary? What happens when that lease expires December 2012?

ChicagoG19
05-20-2011, 04:21 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Wrigley_Field

Who owns that land, Lutheran Theological Seminary? What happens when that lease expires December 2012?

Doesn't matter. The end of the world is that month