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Domeshot17
05-02-2011, 02:46 PM
I don’t mean this as an overly negative thread, more a historical stat I couldn’t find. The White Sox finished April 9 games out of first place. Does anyone know the biggest April deficit ever made up by a playoff team?

Chez
05-02-2011, 02:51 PM
Didn't the Astros make a great comeback a few years ago? The Rockies seem to do it regularly.

jdm2662
05-02-2011, 02:51 PM
After their respective game on May 1, 2006, the Twins fell to 9-16 and nine games out of first place. this, of course, means nothing to what happens to the 2011 White Sox, but it's revelant to the thread.

ewokpelts
05-02-2011, 02:56 PM
astros were 15 out in 2005.

1964 cardinals had a similar jump to the world series

downstairs
05-02-2011, 02:56 PM
I'm sure 9 games down in April has been made up plenty of times

Marqhead
05-02-2011, 03:00 PM
You can look at the historical data as a comparison, but here's how I see it:

The supposed bottom feeders of the AL Central are in 1st and 2nd place. The contending teams are in 3rd, 4th and 5th.

I know Cleveland and KC are playing lights out right now, but over the long haul with their respective rosters I just don't see it happening.

We are 2.5 games back of the Tigers. I still expect either the Tigers, Twins or Sox to take the Central. Does this mean that 86-88 games might win the Central? Maybe. Can the Indians or Royals surprise everyone and take the Central? Possibly.

If you're a Sox fan I guess you have to cling to this. It's one month, it's only 29/162 games and in baseball strange things do happen. I'm grasping at straws, but it's all I've got left at this point.

DSpivack
05-02-2011, 04:52 PM
After their respective game on May 1, 2006, the Twins fell to 9-16 and nine games out of first place. this, of course, means nothing to what happens to the 2011 White Sox, but it's revelant to the thread.

Nor the 2011 Twins, though that isn't much consolation.

SlowMotion
05-02-2011, 06:17 PM
Don't think I've heard of Steve Rosenbloom before (which isn't saying much since I don't read many articles on the Sox that don't appear on ESPN Chicago), but he seems pretty fired up.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/rosenblog/chi-white-sox-season-is-over-so-kenny-williams-had-better-start-trading-20110502,0,1941110.column

Hard for me to disagree with much of it.

You can make a case for patience and that it's still early, but if you've watched this team with any degree of objectivity in the last month, you'll see that from top to bottom the play is just bad. Baserunning, pitching (starting and bullpen), clutch hitting, bunting, hitting in general. It's all bad, and aside from the first two games they've looked lifeless. Does anyone seriously see it getting better? AJ is useless, Beckham couldn't hit a double with 1 outfielder in the field (nor does he have elite power or even good speed), and Juan Pierre. Cmon. He is a more likeable Nyjer Morgan, if that.

A fire sale would be an awesome thing to see, because at least we'd be starting fresh and wouldn't have to watch this crap.

Nellie_Fox
05-02-2011, 06:40 PM
...Beckham couldn't hit a double with 1 outfielder in the field ...
Beckham has five doubles, second only to Quentin on the team.

SlowMotion
05-02-2011, 06:42 PM
Beckham has five doubles, second only to Quentin on the team.

Quentin has what, 13? Yeah he's right up there with the best and tearing the cover off the ball.

:thumbsup:

Nellie_Fox
05-02-2011, 06:47 PM
Quentin has what, 13? Yeah he's right up there with the best and tearing the cover off the ball.

:thumbsup:How did I know you'd try to change your argument? You made the hyperbolic statement that Beckham couldn't hit a double with only one outfielder, yet everyone else on the team except Quentin has fewer. You made a dumb statement and now you're trying to wiggle out of it. There are plenty of things to criticize, yet you pulled the wrong one out of your nether regions. Just admit it.

LITTLE NELL
05-02-2011, 07:07 PM
We reached our low point last year after 52 games when we were 22-30, shortly thereafter we went on the 25-5 run. I don't expect to see a run like that but if we can get back to .500 by mid June anything can happen after that.

SI1020
05-02-2011, 07:15 PM
Sooo, in case anyone's interested the Boston "Miracle" Braves of 1914 made quite the comeback. At the end of April they were 2-7, last place, 6 games back. On May 30 they were 10-22, last place 11 games out. As late as July 4 they were 26-40, still last, 15 games out. They finished the season 94-59, pennant winners and a stunning 10 1/2 games in the lead. Then they trounced the Philadelphia Athletics 4-0 in the World Series.

Nellie_Fox
05-02-2011, 07:17 PM
Sooo, in case anyone's interested the Boston "Miracle" Braves of 1914 made quite the comeback. At the end of April they were 2-7, last place, 6 games back. On May 30 they were 10-22, last place 11 games out. As late as July 4 they were 26-40, still last, 15 games out. They finished the season 94-59, pennant winners and a stunning 10 1/2 games in the lead. Then they trounced the Philadelphia Athletics 4-0 in the World Series.http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQOAgDjXDgsiqIub788vXS2WxDBOYeeH K5fpTMpr-MG9xvGxv1nsA
So you're saying there's a chance!

SI1020
05-02-2011, 07:22 PM
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQOAgDjXDgsiqIub788vXS2WxDBOYeeH K5fpTMpr-MG9xvGxv1nsA
So you're saying there's a chance! They're not dead yet!

PKalltheway
05-02-2011, 10:22 PM
Detroit was nine games out at the close of April in 1987, although they were only 9-12. They came back to win the AL East on the final day of the season with a 98-64 record. Milwaukee, who was in first with an 18-3 record to finish April, wound up finishing in third place and missing the playoffs with 91 wins that year.

russ99
05-03-2011, 10:57 AM
Didn't the Astros make a great comeback a few years ago? The Rockies seem to do it regularly.

The Astros were 15-30 on June 1st 2005, as in the famous newspaper "tombstone" below:

http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/hash/7b/80/7b807019e065ca09f12f6aa0d9d81895.jpg
(http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/hash/7b/80/7b807019e065ca09f12f6aa0d9d81895.jpg)

Lip Man 1
05-03-2011, 11:44 AM
Phil Rogers has the answer in his column today. Three teams have been ten out in April and made the postseason the last being the 87 Tigers, before that it was the 14 Braves if I remember reading it correctly.

So it can happen but don't bet your life on it.

Edit:

Here's the link:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/breaking/cbsports-your-morning-phil-history-liriano-granderson-20110503,0,251219.story

Lip