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Frater Perdurabo
04-02-2011, 03:53 PM
Another nice win...

SephClone89
04-02-2011, 03:53 PM
www.didthetwinswin.com

hula
04-02-2011, 03:53 PM
Indeed! :bandance:

HomeFish
04-02-2011, 03:54 PM
2.0 game lead over the Twins, very nice

guillensdisciple
04-02-2011, 03:54 PM
Shady start by Edwin, but overall he did exactly what we needed. Good to see everything gel today.

Good way to start the season, hopefully this translates into victories against good clubs too.

Corlose 15
04-02-2011, 03:54 PM
They've got a couple things they can clean up but overall you can't complain about 23 runs to start the season and a couple nice wins. :bandance:

GoGoCrede
04-02-2011, 03:55 PM
Dare we go for the sweep? :smile:

guillensdisciple
04-02-2011, 03:55 PM
www.didthetwinswin.com (http://www.didthetwinswin.com)


NICE!!!!

I was waiting for it.

WhiteSox5187
04-02-2011, 03:55 PM
Not much to complain about today.

SoxFan1979
04-02-2011, 03:55 PM
White Sox TCOB I like it!!!

Frater Perdurabo
04-02-2011, 03:55 PM
It was nice to use only two relievers to shut down the last three innings.

soxlady8
04-02-2011, 03:57 PM
11 hits today !

However 2 errors by Morel :(

DirtySox
04-02-2011, 03:58 PM
However 2 errors by Morel :(

Aberration.

ChiSoxGal85
04-02-2011, 03:58 PM
The offense is showing its stuff. Let's keep it up, boys! Carlos is RED hot. If he and Gordon have their stuff together this year, and Paul and Adam do what they know how...I have lotsa hope for this season.

gobears1987
04-02-2011, 03:58 PM
TCQ is in the zone. Jackson looked good and so did the pen.

infohawk
04-02-2011, 03:59 PM
Nice win! Time for the Sunday line-up.

gobears1987
04-02-2011, 03:59 PM
Fire Greg Walker!

Maximo
04-02-2011, 03:59 PM
They are all seeing the ball well..........even the outs are hit hard.

LITTLE NELL
04-02-2011, 04:01 PM
Lets hope we have the killer instinct this year, kick the Tribe while they're down as we go for the sweep.

manders_01
04-02-2011, 04:01 PM
Perfect way to start this day and the Sox season for me...watching a White Sox winner! :thumbsup:

bluedemon45
04-02-2011, 04:05 PM
Lets finish this weekend strong and get the sweep! I know its only Cleveland but they are making great contact right now.

SoxSpeed22
04-02-2011, 04:06 PM
Last time we started out 2-0 on the road, we won the World Series. :cool:
Other than that one inning, Jackson battled well and the offense showed up again.

Thome_Fan
04-02-2011, 04:07 PM
Homefish even without any complaints? This team is good. :gulp:

SephClone89
04-02-2011, 04:07 PM
Hell yeah! Great to see Jackson battle, and the pen do its job. My mancrush on Becks is resurfacing...and Dunn and Quentin? Hot damn.

Chat was fun today--if you're in tomorrow, make sure you stop in!

Foulke You
04-02-2011, 04:07 PM
Carlos looks poised for a big year. Poor Alex Rios. Talk about bad luck in this one for him. Two balls smoked and he is still 0 for. Nice job by Edwin to rebound after a couple shaky middle innings.

KMcMahon817
04-02-2011, 04:11 PM
If the first two games are any indication of how Carlos will play this year, the SOX will be very, very, very dangerous. He is very locked in and is taking nice easy swings. Very promising.

Dan H
04-02-2011, 04:11 PM
If Quentin just stays consistent, this offense will be the best in the league. Let's hope the offense can stay hot. It would be great to see to the team get off to a great start offensively unlike the past few seasons.

LoveYourSuit
04-02-2011, 04:12 PM
What a difference it makes to have a guy like Dunn in the heart of the order.

The line up is dangerous, no easy outs.

PalehosePlanet
04-02-2011, 04:14 PM
Carlos looks poised for a big year. Poor Alex Rios. Talk about bad luck in this one for him. Two balls smoked and he is still 0 for. Nice job by Edwin to rebound after a couple shaky middle innings.

When he is hitting the ball from the middle of the plate away to center and right-center he is a great hitter. When he's trying to pull those pitches is when he struggles --- badly.

7 RBI through 2 games. Carlos for the RBI crown!!

Nice to see Edwin and the staff calm down after the 2nd. I was worried there for a while.

PeteWard
04-02-2011, 04:26 PM
Carlos looks poised for a big year. Poor Alex Rios. Talk about bad luck in this one for him. Two balls smoked and he is still 0 for. Nice job by Edwin to rebound after a couple shaky middle innings.

Rios crushed that one that the third baseman robbed him of. It also would have been the end of Carrasco very early. He settled down after that.

Red Barchetta
04-02-2011, 04:31 PM
Lets hope we have the killer instinct this year, kick the Tribe while they're down as we go for the sweep.

I agree. No more "let's just win the series" talk.

chisoxfanatic
04-02-2011, 04:31 PM
They've got a couple things they can clean up but overall you can't complain about 23 runs to start the season and a couple nice wins. :bandance:
Not only are they scoring runs, but they're scoring them EARLY in the games. If that continues, it puts extra pressure on the opposing team. It would be nice for the other team to constantly have to play catch-up.

PeteWard
04-02-2011, 04:34 PM
Not only are they scoring runs, but they're scoring them EARLY in the games. If that continues, it puts extra pressure on the opposing team. It would be nice for the other team to constantly have to play catch-up.

They did a lot of that in 2005. It helped the starters relax as well. Here's to hope! :gulp:

ClutchHarold#3
04-02-2011, 04:46 PM
2011 Sox attendance record: 2 - 0!!!

Trying to talk my girlfriend in to going again tomorrow for a sweep - front row tickets can be had here for $7 apiece!

Nice win - decent outing for Jackson, Quentin looking dangerous (that double was hit right at us!), and seeing DJ and Farmio crossing the street as we were leaving!

TDog
04-02-2011, 04:53 PM
What a difference it makes to have a guy like Dunn in the heart of the order.

The line up is dangerous, no easy outs.

Dunn hasn't been the most dangerous hitter in the lineup, though. Quentin has provided more offense than Dunn in each of the first two games. It's possible that Beckham is hitting better this year because he's seeing better pitches, but the way Beckham has been hitting, especially going deep in the count and getting two strike-hits, there is more to his strong offensive start. The only starter without a hit, including the Pierre and Ramirez who got off to horrendous starts last year, is Rios, and he was robbed of an RBI hit today.

I heard a little bit of the Indian announcers while I was out working this morning (accounting for the time change), and they were saying that the White Sox aren't an all-or-nothing team anymore. Really, they may have been last September after they put Ramirez in the DH spot, but what the Sox have done so far seems a continuation of July and August of last year when they were one of the top offenses in baseball. (Look it up.)

In some ways, today's win was more impressive than the opener with the runs scored after the first two hitters in the inning went down -- in two innings -- and it looks like every hitter who came up with a runner on third and less than two outs drove in the run. Those two successes account for five runs in a game won by five runs.

Jackson pitched well enough. He gave up a solo home run with a 5-0 lead. Morel's two error play set up the other two runs (and made one of the runs unearned), although it looked like Jackson was going to pitch over it.

This whole team is hitting right now, and Quentin is hitting better than anyone expected, like he did in the middle of his MVP-like season. Friday the hitters were patient with a sinker-ball pitcher. Today they were jumping all over Carrasco, who might not have been knocked out early but for some great defense at third. Sunday they face another sinker-baller, and I hope they have a good gameplan against him as well.

I don't think I've seen such impressive offense to start a Sox season since 2000. I hope it continues.

aryzner
04-02-2011, 04:59 PM
Sox win!

Twins have already lost.

Tigers currently down 6-0 to the Yankees.

This could end up a perfect day of baseball.

LoveYourSuit
04-02-2011, 05:06 PM
Dunn hasn't been the most dangerous hitter in the lineup, though. Quentin has provided more offense than Dunn in each of the first two games. .....


I realize it's only two games, but Dunn pushing Paulie, Rios, and especially Quentin down one slot in the order makes a big difference. There is just a different feel to the rhythm of the order to me. I'm sure the Indian pitchers feel this too.


Guys will have their slumps no doubt. But the key here is for one guy to pick up the next during these times. I feel this team might be able to sustain producing runs regardless of who is in a slump.

Lip Man 1
04-02-2011, 05:12 PM
Another solid performance, another fast start and a good starting pitching performance. That's the way to play the game.

So far, so good.

Lip

Brian26
04-02-2011, 05:14 PM
I know it's only two games, but this team looks very confident right now.

veeter
04-02-2011, 05:19 PM
Sale and Santos are good. I love when the Sox get off to good starts.

PeteWard
04-02-2011, 05:21 PM
All is good so far. Sox are looking at two games up on everyone except KC if NY holds this 6-1 lead. The only thing we have not seen yet is Thornton. He is key.

gobears1987
04-02-2011, 05:23 PM
Dunn came here despite preferring to play the field in the NL over DH'ing because he wanted to be on a winner. I'm sure he likes being in a line-up where he isn't the only one capable of producing.

cws05champ
04-02-2011, 05:24 PM
Great game...no complaints from me!!!

This could be a fun summer.

gobears1987
04-02-2011, 05:24 PM
Sale and Santos are good. I love when the Sox get off to good starts.

They combined for three strong innings of relief. They can be to this team what Cotts and Politte were in '05.

doublem23
04-02-2011, 05:29 PM
Breaking news the white sox haven't scored in 10 mimutes about 3 hours ago (http://twitter.com/karlravechespn/status/54249528836108290) via Mobile Web (http://mobile.twitter.com/) Retweeted by 12 people


http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/1114848249/karl_ravech_x200_bigger.jpg (http://twitter.com/karlravechespn)
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karl ravech

Thome_Fan
04-02-2011, 05:37 PM
Breaking news the white sox haven't scored in 10 mimutes about 3 hours ago (http://twitter.com/karlravechespn/status/54249528836108290) via Mobile Web (http://mobile.twitter.com/) Retweeted by 12 people


http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/1114848249/karl_ravech_x200_bigger.jpg (http://twitter.com/karlravechespn)
karlravechespn (http://twitter.com/karlravechespn)
karl ravech

Hahaha, I love when we're good enough to warrant that!

DumpJerry
04-02-2011, 05:58 PM
By the way, this was the smallest crowd in the history of Jacobs/Progressive Field. It was a Ricketts' Era Wrigley Field sized crowd.

Red Barchetta
04-02-2011, 06:00 PM
By the way, this was the smallest crowd in the history of Jacobs/Progressive Field. It was a Ricketts' Era Wrigley Field sized crowd.

I noticed that on TV. Didn't they set some kind of record for consecutive sell-outs when they opened Jacob's Field and the Indians were good, aka Jim Thome/Albert Belle/Roberto Alomar era?

Gavin
04-02-2011, 06:09 PM
Great game, stupid thread title.

DumpJerry
04-02-2011, 06:10 PM
I noticed that on TV. Didn't they set some kind of record for consecutive sell-outs when they opened Jacob's Field and the Indians were good, aka Jim Thome/Albert Belle/Roberto Alomar era?
They had several consecutive seasons where all 81 games sold out.

soxstarter
04-02-2011, 06:15 PM
Thanks to Chisox girl for keeping us up on today's games while we are out in the boonies of Wisconsin.

Go Sox! :D:

Foulke You
04-02-2011, 06:30 PM
I noticed that on TV. Didn't they set some kind of record for consecutive sell-outs when they opened Jacob's Field and the Indians were good, aka Jim Thome/Albert Belle/Roberto Alomar era?
It went from 1995 to 2004:

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/story/2001/04/04/indians010404.html

I believe the attendance record has since been broken by the Red Sox. The Cleveland economy is really hurting and the Tribe has been bad for a while now which kills attendance. I heard recently that they lost another 2000 season ticket holders in the offseason. When all you do is sign Chad Durbin and pray for Sizemore to be healthy, you aren't exactly going to get a ton of ticket sales.

GoGoCrede
04-02-2011, 06:34 PM
Breaking news the white sox haven't scored in 10 mimutes about 3 hours ago (http://twitter.com/karlravechespn/status/54249528836108290) via Mobile Web (http://mobile.twitter.com/) Retweeted by 12 people


http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/1114848249/karl_ravech_x200_bigger.jpg (http://twitter.com/karlravechespn)
karlravechespn (http://twitter.com/karlravechespn)
karl ravech

Love it! Glad we're getting good buzz.

soltrain21
04-02-2011, 06:35 PM
Only got to follow the game on my phone, but I am pleased with this outcome and the start of this ball club.

I don't except them to score 15 or 8 runs every game - but if Beckham builds on his second half of last year and TCQ is even remotely what he was in 2008 than this team is stacked offensively.

palehozenychicty
04-02-2011, 06:42 PM
Another solid win overall. :bandance:

thomas35forever
04-02-2011, 06:54 PM
I missed this one because I was going up against Farmio and DJ on the radio, calling my own game (featuring a walk-off home run). I won't comment on the game itself, but was that the actual attendance number or do my eyes deceive me? It's amazing how far the Tribe has fallen.

TomBradley72
04-02-2011, 07:53 PM
great game, stupid thread title.

+1

WhiteSox5187
04-02-2011, 07:54 PM
I know the last time we started a season out 2-0 was 2005, but have we ever started a season out 3-0? It means nothing of course, but off the top of my head I can't think of the last time we did that. 2000 maybe?

TomBradley72
04-02-2011, 07:57 PM
I missed this one because I was going up against Farmio and DJ on the radio, calling my own game (featuring a walk-off home run). I won't comment on the game itself, but was that the actual attendance number or do my eyes deceive me? It's amazing how far the Tribe has fallen.

7 of the last 9 seasons at/below .500- and zero hope this year- no one (except the Cubs) would draw well after that kind of run. Economy of northern Ohio doesn't help.

Hitmen77
04-02-2011, 08:13 PM
Great start for the Sox. Offense looks incredible. Rios is 0 for but he really crushed a ball early in the game that just died at the warning track. He was also robbed of a big hit by a great defensive play by the Tribe's 3B.

Buehrle and Jackson weren't exactly impressive, but the Indians can still hit well. Let's get that sweep tomorrow!

Carlos looks poised for a big year. Poor Alex Rios. Talk about bad luck in this one for him. Two balls smoked and he is still 0 for. Nice job by Edwin to rebound after a couple shaky middle innings.

The key for him will be to stay healthy. If he can do that, I'm confident he'll be an RBI machine.

I noticed that on TV. Didn't they set some kind of record for consecutive sell-outs when they opened Jacob's Field and the Indians were good, aka Jim Thome/Albert Belle/Roberto Alomar era?

Yes, in fact it was 455 straight sellouts and Cleveland actually retired the number 455 in honor of that feat. I believe they were last in attendance in MLB in 2010. That's a long way to fall for a team that was 1 game away from the World Series 3 years earlier.

They get no sympathy from me, though. IMO, Indians fans are by far the most obnoxious of our AL Central rivals.

JB98
04-02-2011, 08:14 PM
The two-out hitting was nice today — RBI single by Pierre in the sixth, two-run double by Quentin in the seventh.

Those are the kinds of hits that demoralize an opponent.

DumpJerry
04-02-2011, 08:15 PM
I know the last time we started a season out 2-0 was 2005, but have we ever started a season out 3-0? It means nothing of course, but off the top of my head I can't think of the last time we did that. 2000 maybe?
1959. 4-0. 2000 started 0-2.

SephClone89
04-02-2011, 08:31 PM
I know the last time we started a season out 2-0 was 2005, but have we ever started a season out 3-0?

1959. 4-0.

I'm digging the pattern here.

Nelfox02
04-02-2011, 08:32 PM
nice to win the opening series, sweep would be nice but its about taking series, especially against teams that you be beating. I thought overall Jackson, shaky at times, made pitches when needed to. Sale was great today, Sergio solid. After another fast start this game started trending bad, but Jackson stiffened, and TCQ had a huge 2 out hit to give us breathing room.

great start, eager to see Danks tomorrow.

soltrain21
04-02-2011, 08:37 PM
nice to win the opening series, sweep would be nice but its about taking series, especially against teams that you be beating. I thought overall Jackson, shaky at times, made pitches when needed to. Sale was great today, Sergio solid. After another fast start this game started trending bad, but Jackson stiffened, and TCQ had a huge 2 out hit to give us breathing room.

great start, eager to see Danks tomorrow.

Not when you are up 2-0 in the series against a team that completely blows. Sweep their asses.

JB98
04-02-2011, 08:46 PM
Not when you are up 2-0 in the series against a team that completely blows. Sweep their asses.

I agree. I hate that "just win series" crap.

It comes down to the team that wins the most games, not the team that wins the most series.

Tomorrow's game is every bit as important as today's was. It carries the same weight in the standings.

Play the regulars. Sweep their asses. I don't want to see Lillibridge out there just because the Sox won the first two games of the set.

TDog
04-02-2011, 09:29 PM
I know the last time we started a season out 2-0 was 2005, but have we ever started a season out 3-0? It means nothing of course, but off the top of my head I can't think of the last time we did that. 2000 maybe?

Ever? The White Sox have been playing American League baseball for more than a century. The Sox began the 1982 season going 8-0. They finished the season 6 games out of first. In 1983, they began the season going 0-3. At one point in early May, I think, when rookie Ron Kittle was asked about the slow start, the team winning only eight of the first 20 games, he noted that the previous year they opened 8-0, and that didn't mean anything. Of course, the 1983 White Sox ended up one of the best in franchise history, 99 wins and 20 games better than anyone else in their division.

I like the way this Sox team has played so far, but everything is amplified at the beginning of the season. It's just two games. It is isn't like you can expect the White Sox to average 12.5 runs a game or be unbeatable when they hold the opposition to 10 runs or less.

But to answer your question, I believe the White Sox haven't opened the season 3-0 since 1992, when they swept a season-opening three-game series in Anaheim.

Nelfox02
04-02-2011, 09:35 PM
Not when you are up 2-0 in the series against a team that completely blows. Sweep their asses.

sweeps are tough, even against teams that blow. Dont get me wrong I am not advocating complacency in just winning series, and agree that the Sox need to get a better killer instinct when it comes to sweeps, but with the long season I always focus on winning series.....if you win your series you are usually in good shape

Zakath
04-02-2011, 09:39 PM
Dunn came here despite preferring to play the field in the NL over DH'ing because he wanted to be on a winner. I'm sure he likes being in a line-up where he isn't the only one capable of producing.

Which is probably what drove his numbers down with men on when he was in Cincinnati and Washington. Not having anyone to hit behind you puts a lot of pressure on you to produce when guys are on, and Dunn's numbers suffered for it (for his career, he's about 20 points down in average w/RISP vs. overall average; OBP goes up, but his slugging percentage drops over 40 points as well).

Knowing that it's not absolutely crucial that you get a hit EVERY single time you come up or your team's going to lose should make him a better hitter. Have to give it about a month to see how much of an effect this is having, but so far, so good.

sox1970
04-02-2011, 09:51 PM
sweeps are tough, even against teams that blow. Dont get me wrong I am not advocating complacency in just winning series, and agree that the Sox need to get a better killer instinct when it comes to sweeps, but with the long season I always focus on winning series.....if you win your series you are usually in good shape

In theory, yes. If a team won every 3-game series 2 out of 3, and split every 2- and 4-game series, they'd go 99-63. But a baseball regular season isn't about series. It's about 162 opportunities to win a game, and hopefully at the end of the season you've won enough of them to get in the playoffs.

Once you get in the playoffs, then that's when winning series matters.

doublem23
04-02-2011, 11:14 PM
7 of the last 9 seasons at/below .500- and zero hope this year- no one (except the Cubs) would draw well after that kind of run. Economy of northern Ohio doesn't help.

The Cleveland Plain-Dealer wrote a piece online about the low attendance and lot of the comments seemed to hint that Indian fans hate the ownership, too. Maybe a Blackhawks fans/Bill Wirtz situation brewing?

ChiSoxGirl
04-03-2011, 01:36 AM
Dare we go for the sweep? :smile:

Of course not; I've got tomorrow's game report! I'm fully prepared to post a picture of Eeyore to accompany my TBGR. :(:

Thanks to Chisox girl for keeping us up on today's games while we are out in the boonies of Wisconsin.

Go Sox! :D:

You're welcome. Glad to help. :smile:

Gavin
04-03-2011, 01:36 AM
The Cleveland Plain-Dealer wrote a piece online about the low attendance and lot of the comments seemed to hint that Indian fans hate the ownership, too. Maybe a Blackhawks fans/Bill Wirtz situation brewing?

Or maybe it's just cold and their team isn't that good. Let's not jump the gun Rita Skeeter.

doublem23
04-03-2011, 01:40 AM
Or maybe it's just cold and their team isn't that good. Let's not jump the gun Rita Skeeter.

It's the 2nd game of the season, I need to overreact to everything.

For starters, the Sox are obviously going to score 1800 runs this year and go 162-0.

soxnut1018
04-03-2011, 01:45 AM
It's the 2nd game of the season, I need to overreact to everything.

For starters, the Sox are obviously going to go 1800 runs this year and go 162-0.

Well now you're underreacting. They have scored 23 runs in two games, so they are going to score at least 1863 runs. Also, they are going to go 173-0.

gobears1987
04-03-2011, 02:03 AM
Aside from Dunn not having as much pressure on him, having PK bat behind him ensures he will see a lot of good pitches to hit. That's the reason I'm glad Ozzie is batting him 3rd.

Zakath
04-03-2011, 06:20 AM
Aside from Dunn not having as much pressure on him, having PK bat behind him ensures he will see a lot of good pitches to hit. That's the reason I'm glad Ozzie is batting him 3rd.

I'd still rather see Alex in the 3rd spot and Dunn moved down to 5. Besides, if he's hitting in front of TCQ, he's still going to see a lot of pitches.

doublem23
04-03-2011, 06:32 AM
I'd still rather see Alex in the 3rd spot and Dunn moved down to 5. Besides, if he's hitting in front of TCQ, he's still going to see a lot of pitches.

I still have to assume that Rios will eventually move to 3rd in the order, but really when you have Dunn, Konerko, Rios, and Quentin hitting 3-4-5-6 in your order, any combination will probably work.

gobears1987
04-03-2011, 07:53 AM
I'd still rather see Alex in the 3rd spot and Dunn moved down to 5. Besides, if he's hitting in front of TCQ, he's still going to see a lot of pitches.

If TCQ plays like 2008, then I think he's better than Dunn or Rios for the 3 hole.

Wsoxmike59
04-03-2011, 08:44 AM
If Quentin just stays consistent, this offense will be the best in the league. Let's hope the offense can stay hot. It would be great to see to the team get off to a great start offensively unlike the past few seasons.

Dan, I agree. This team's offense reminds me a lot of the old Southside Hitmen team. But this team is vastly superior on defense. This team is going to put up a lot of runs on the board, and the pitchers won't have to worry about throwing shut outs every night just to have a chance to win.

I have a feeling this is going to be a fun year. :D:

hawkjt
04-03-2011, 12:04 PM
So far, having Dunn in the 3rd spot feels like that anchor guy that other pitchers have to ''work around'', like Thome in 2006, that makes everybody elses job easier. Carlos was that guy in 2008. Last year,we did not have that guy,really. PK is close,but having a few in a row like PK-Dunn-Rios-Carlos is a huge luxury...pitchers have to sweat that group almost every inning.

KC is looking strong early,as usual,so going to KC on Tuesday will be a challenge.

Today,Masterson on the mound for the Tribe,another sinkerballer,I feel great comfort having a lefty power hitter who like low pitches in the lineup in Dunn. The wind seems to blow only to right field in that park,so Adam is about the only homer hope on days like yesterday. Alex's bomb to left should have been out,but that wind knocked it down. Right now,he is wearing it...hitting hard,but no luck....no biggie.

Gavin
04-03-2011, 12:05 PM
Alex Rios is single handedly making me look like a clown in my auction league. I will say he absolutely scorched the ball in his second AB but I can't say much for his other ABs that weren't walks.

FielderJones
04-03-2011, 12:30 PM
I still have to assume that Rios will eventually move to 3rd in the order, but really when you have Dunn, Konerko, Rios, and Quentin hitting 3-4-5-6 in your order, any combination will probably work.

That's a nice problem for Ozzie to have -- how to order four good power hitters.