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JermaineDye05
04-01-2011, 07:02 PM
Rather than continue to clutter the opening day thread, I decided to get this thread going.

As we know, Tigers and Royals lost yesterday. We already know what happened to the Indians today :cool:.

The Twins are currently down 4-0 in the bottom of the 2nd in Toronto.

JermaineDye05
04-01-2011, 07:33 PM
6-0 Jays :bandance::bandance:

JP Arencibia with a bomb to CF.

JermaineDye05
04-01-2011, 07:47 PM
Bautista goes deep.

7-0 Blue Jays.

Marqhead
04-01-2011, 07:49 PM
Bautista goes deep.

7-0 Blue Jays.

Eating your words in the other thread. :D: (I know it's a general feeling and it's only 1 game)

JermaineDye05
04-01-2011, 07:50 PM
8-0 now

Adam Lind goes deep.

Pavano getting hammered.

vinny
04-01-2011, 07:59 PM
The porn stache has lost its power.

JermaineDye05
04-01-2011, 08:04 PM
The porn stache has lost its power.

It's evolved into a goatee.

soltrain21
04-01-2011, 08:04 PM
The porn stache has lost its power.

He better make that **** a Fu Manchu if he wants to bounce back.

JermaineDye05
04-01-2011, 08:06 PM
Arencibia might get the cycle. He has a HR and a 3B in the 5th.

10-0 Jays.

DirtySox
04-01-2011, 08:08 PM
Twinkies getting tattooed. Today is good.

vinny
04-01-2011, 08:08 PM
10-0. :bandance: Even if Mauer makes fifteen trips to the mound each inning, it won't slow the Jays' momentum in this one.

vinny
04-01-2011, 09:24 PM
:twinslose

Good start to the season.

PeteWard
04-01-2011, 10:17 PM
First place. Dare I ask that the Sox to duplicate 2005 and stay there till October?

samurai_sox
04-02-2011, 12:22 AM
http://didthetwinswin.com/ :cool:

MtGrnwdSoxFan
04-02-2011, 01:21 AM
http://didthetwinswin.com/ :cool:

I like the simple "NO" that popped up when I clicked that.

I could get used to seeing that! :D:

chisoxfanatic
04-02-2011, 02:15 AM
Are there any signs of JB98?

DirtySox
04-02-2011, 01:15 PM
I wish I could watch Drabek pitch against the Twins today. Supposedly the 2-seamer is nasty.

guillensdisciple
04-02-2011, 01:42 PM
The twins are what?

and what are they perpetually?

DirtySox
04-02-2011, 01:56 PM
Drabek's no-hit bid ends. Broken up by Span in the 6th.

DirtySox
04-02-2011, 02:39 PM
Drabek and the Jays' pen 1 hit the Twins. Twins lose.

SephClone89
04-02-2011, 03:09 PM
www.didthetwinswin.com

PalehosePlanet
04-02-2011, 03:21 PM
Nice to see Liriano return to his '08-'09 form; even if just for a day.

PeteWard
04-02-2011, 03:38 PM
I think the Jays will be tough this year.

sox1970
04-02-2011, 04:06 PM
Brad Penny getting torched. Can't say I'm upset about this.

PeteWard
04-02-2011, 04:16 PM
Now 6-1, NY, in the 3rd. A two game lead over both Minn and Det after two games would be nice. Though Burnett is quite capable of blowing this,

Corlose 15
04-02-2011, 04:30 PM
Is there a reason why the Tigers 2nd starter is Penny and not Porcello or Scherzer?

sox1970
04-02-2011, 04:34 PM
Is there a reason why the Tigers 2nd starter is Penny and not Porcello or Scherzer?

Yeah, I could have sworn they were going with Scherzer 2nd. Not sure what happened there.

PeteWard
04-02-2011, 04:43 PM
I didn't think it was possible but McCarver is worse than ever.

Buck not bothering me as much as he usually does. But it's a long season.

SephClone89
04-02-2011, 04:52 PM
Are you guys getting the DET-NYY game up north?

Corlose 15
04-02-2011, 04:59 PM
Are you guys getting the DET-NYY game up north?

I'm in the Milwaukee area and I've got the Cardinals Padres game.

PeteWard
04-02-2011, 05:24 PM
Good to see both Detroit and Minny starters looking shaky early on. Both teams' rotations are question marks and their back end guys have not even pitched yet. But still too early

JorgeFabregas
04-02-2011, 06:46 PM
Is there a reason why the Tigers 2nd starter is Penny and not Porcello or Scherzer?
I noticed the Cards were starting Jake Westrbook in front of Jaimie Garcia. I guess that isn't a no-brainer, but seemed like a bit of a head-scratcher. A lot of these crusty managers prefer the crusty veteran SPs, I guess.

vinny
04-02-2011, 08:12 PM
www.didthetwinswin.com (http://www.didthetwinswin.com)
Funny thing is, a Twins fan who moved to NYC started the site. Sucks for her!

http://who.godaddy.com/whois.aspx?domain=didthetwinswin.com&prog_id=GoDaddy

TheVulture
04-02-2011, 09:03 PM
The porn stache has lost its power.

Of course, Jose Valentin retired in 2007.

SephClone89
04-04-2011, 06:05 PM
I'm sure I'm not the only one watching Yankees-Twins on ESPN during tonight's Sox off-night.

soltrain21
04-04-2011, 06:06 PM
I'm sure I'm not the only one watching Yankees-Twins on ESPN during tonight's Sox off-night.

I do believe that will be on my television set tonight, yes.

1989
04-04-2011, 06:08 PM
7015

It's our favorite time of the year, where the Yankees get to beat up on the twins. Hey Yankees, how does it feel to start 7-0?

soltrain21
04-04-2011, 06:12 PM
I hate the Yankee Roll Call. It's dumb.

Gavin
04-04-2011, 06:12 PM
I do believe that will be on my television set tonight, yes.

It's also on ESPN3 for those who have pulled the coax.

DirtySox
04-04-2011, 06:13 PM
I'm sure I'm not the only one watching Yankees-Twins on ESPN during tonight's Sox off-night.

I'm with you. Still don't like rooting for the Yankees though.

johnnyg83
04-04-2011, 06:22 PM
I hate the Yankee Roll Call. It's dumb.

It's awful.

Nothing fun or creative about it.

johnnyg83
04-04-2011, 06:23 PM
And I haven't seen this many empty seats at Yankee Stadium since the England Dan and John Ford Coley reunion concert.

SephClone89
04-04-2011, 06:29 PM
Jeter you idiot.

1989
04-04-2011, 06:35 PM
Jeter you idiot.

So Jeter can't make plays with balls hit right at him now?

GOLD GLOVE

Mauer out to the pitcher count: 1

LongLiveFisk
04-04-2011, 06:38 PM
4-0 Yanks already.

soltrain21
04-04-2011, 06:39 PM
4-0 Yanks already.

http://static02.mediaite.com/geekosystem/uploads/2011/04/JokerClapping.gif

sox1970
04-04-2011, 06:39 PM
Hopefully this is the Twins one and only series beat down in the Bronx this year.

1989
04-04-2011, 06:40 PM
The Yanks sure have a formidable bottom of the lineup

PeteWard
04-04-2011, 06:44 PM
The Yanks sure have a formidable bottom of the lineup

Lots more formidable than the bottom of their rotation,

Oh and Baker does not have a thing either. :cool:

AnkleSox
04-04-2011, 06:46 PM
It is never too early in the season for me to derive pleasure from watching the Minnesota Twins lose baseball games. This will be one of the rare nights where I will gladly root on the Yankees.

PeteWard
04-04-2011, 06:48 PM
And I haven't seen this many empty seats at Yankee Stadium since the England Dan and John Ford Coley reunion concert.

Mid 50s, no rain..not sure why. UConn fans maybe?

PeteWard
04-04-2011, 06:55 PM
Hopefully this is the Twins one and only series beat down in the Bronx this year.

I want to write them off now, but they are still the favorite until they fall substantially behind.

PeteWard
04-04-2011, 07:11 PM
Nova losing it in a hurry :angry: 4-2

JermaineDye05
04-04-2011, 08:35 PM
4-3 in the bottom of the 8th.

Young, Thome, Kubel due up in the 9th.

Kubel got to Mariano last year.

PeteWard
04-04-2011, 08:43 PM
So did Young and Thome though not sure when :o:

PeteWard
04-04-2011, 08:48 PM
Twinkies lose :bandance:

JermaineDye05
04-04-2011, 08:48 PM
:twinslose

1-3 to start the season.

Tigers lost today too which makes them 1-3 as well.

ROYALS lead the division at 3-1.

SephClone89
04-04-2011, 08:48 PM
Did the Twins win? (http://didthetwinswin.com)

PeteWard
04-04-2011, 08:50 PM
:twinslose

1-3 to start the season.

My happiness is tempered by the realization that if you are not tied with or leading the Yankees by the 7th, you will probably lose. Soriano in front of Rivera is depressing.

SoxSpeed22
04-04-2011, 08:51 PM
With the Yankees, it's a 6 inning game. Good luck getting anything against Chamberlain, Soriano and Rivera.

soxlady8
04-04-2011, 09:26 PM
yes :)
Twinkies lose ---
was depressed there was no White Sox baseball today , but this has helped !!!

mzh
04-04-2011, 09:30 PM
And the Kansas City Royals have quietly gone 3-1 to end the Sox W2W hopes :scratch:

Foulke You
04-05-2011, 12:15 AM
Is it too early in the season for Bert Blyleven and Dick Bremer to be whining about how unfair the schedule is for the Twins?

PeteWard
04-05-2011, 01:40 AM
With the Yankees, it's a 6 inning game. Good luck getting anything against Chamberlain, Soriano and Rivera.

Chamberlain...not as much as the other two. Maybe Rivera will start to lose it? He's no spring chicken.

hawkjt
04-05-2011, 11:55 AM
Some things never change....Mariano is still nasty. Will he ever lose it?
That sequence of pitches to Delmon Young...ouch. Tripled him up on the inside corner...no chance,Delmon.:D:

MtGrnwdSoxFan
04-05-2011, 01:11 PM
And the Kansas City Royals have quietly gone 3-1 to end the Sox W2W hopes :scratch:

Haven't all their wins come in the final at-bat?

They're the Royals. It'll catch up to them eventually...hopefully starting tonight.

EDIT: Personal milestone - 2,000th post.

Lip Man 1
04-05-2011, 01:13 PM
I know they've won two games on walk off home runs.

Lip

The Immigrant
04-05-2011, 01:24 PM
That sequence of pitches to Delmon Young...ouch. Tripled him up on the inside corner...no chance,Delmon.:D:

Especially with the final pitch being called a strike even though it was five inches off the plate.

DeadMoney
04-05-2011, 06:23 PM
Twins down again... 3-0 in the 1st this time. Game is on the MLB Network.

PeteWard
04-05-2011, 06:29 PM
Watching this game on the awful YES network. They just put up a graphic showing that the Twins are 16-46 vs NYY since 2002!! The worst record of any team against another during that period. Which is mind blowing considering that the Twins have been damn good. You expect poor records against strong teams from KC or Pitt or Balt but the Twins are the worst.

So the Yanks are in the Twins heads way more than the Twins are in the Sox heads.

SephClone89
04-05-2011, 06:40 PM
So the Yanks are in the Twins heads way more than the Twins are in the Sox heads.

The problem being that we play the Twins three times as much as the Twins play the Yankees.

1989
04-05-2011, 06:45 PM
Liftoff for Andruw Jones. 4-0 Yanks.

Corlose 15
04-05-2011, 06:45 PM
The problem being that we play the Twins three times as much as the Twins play the Yankees.

That and the Twins at least lose to the Yankees in the playoffs.

JermaineDye05
04-05-2011, 08:24 PM
It's like the Twins know we're struggling in KC.

Bases loaded in the 8th with Mauer up.

EDIT: He walks. 4-1 Yankees. Soriano has thrown over 30 pitches. Delmon Young up now.

PeteWard
04-05-2011, 08:31 PM
Yankees pen walking the Twins back into this.:angry:

JermaineDye05
04-05-2011, 08:32 PM
Game tied after Delmon Young gets a typical pop fly double down the line. :angry:

4-4

PeteWard
04-05-2011, 08:33 PM
A Twinkie hit if I ever saw one. Was that Soriano giving up all the walks?

JermaineDye05
04-05-2011, 08:35 PM
A Twinkie hit if I ever saw one. Was that Soriano giving up all the walks?

Yeah, he walked three.

PeteWard
04-05-2011, 08:40 PM
Ohh Texeira just missed that Capps meatball.:angry:

JermaineDye05
04-05-2011, 08:45 PM
Kubel with a twinkie hit to lead-off the inning against Mariano. :angry:

JermaineDye05
04-05-2011, 08:47 PM
Wow, Rivera just made Danny Valencia look silly.

And he just broke Morneau's bat on a check swing.

This guy is amazing.

JermaineDye05
04-05-2011, 08:55 PM
Boone Logan warming for the Yankees.

:puking:

And he's in.

1989
04-05-2011, 08:58 PM
Twins baseball...where bloop doubles provide cathartic relief to season-long curses.

This means, of course, the Twins will lose by giving up the inevitable walk-off home run in extras.

JermaineDye05
04-05-2011, 09:00 PM
Dreaded lead-off walk.

The Twins must be watching our game.

PeteWard
04-05-2011, 09:03 PM
Boone ****ing Logan!

JermaineDye05
04-05-2011, 09:04 PM
Boone ****ing Logan!

He's such a bum.

Meanwhile, Mauer is a stud.

5-4 Twins.

vinny
04-05-2011, 09:08 PM
Boone ****ing Logan!

He's such a bum.
Yeah, but this is all Soriano's doing. Loaded the bases and walked in a run before being lifted.

PeteWard
04-05-2011, 09:10 PM
He's such a bum.

Meanwhile, Mauer is a stud.

5-4 Twins.

Did you see the Nishioka at bat. o-2 after two pathetic bunt attempts and BL grooves one on the next pitch. I am so glad he is not on the Sox anymore.

JermaineDye05
04-05-2011, 09:11 PM
Did you see the Nishioka at bat. o-2 after two pathetic bunt attempts and BL grooves one on the next pitch. I am so glad he is not on the Sox anymore.

I still have nightmares about his outing in TB.

JermaineDye05
04-05-2011, 09:13 PM
Joe Nathan coming in with a 5-4 lead in the bottom of the 10th.

JermaineDye05
04-05-2011, 09:17 PM
Nathan's fastball at 91.

JermaineDye05
04-05-2011, 09:25 PM
Nathan gets the save.

I gotta say, his stuff was really unimpressive. I'm not sure how long he'll last as the Twins closer early in the season. He's just not as overpowering as he was.

soltrain21
04-05-2011, 09:29 PM
Nathan gets the save.

I gotta say, his stuff was really unimpressive. I'm not sure how long he'll last as the Twins closer early in the season. He's just not as overpowering as he was.

I had no idea he was that old until he got hurt last year. I assumed he was five or so years younger.

pipdipchip
04-05-2011, 09:37 PM
In the postgame interview, when they asked Mauer about communication issues in the infield because of Nishioka not speaking English he said "it's interesting, we have an international infield, even with Morneau from Canada some things are lost in translation".

DSpivack
04-05-2011, 09:50 PM
In the postgame interview, when they asked Mauer about communication issues in the infield because of Nishioka not speaking English he said "it's interesting, we have an international infield, even with Morneau from Canada some things are lost in translation".

:rolling:

JermaineDye05
04-06-2011, 05:07 PM
Big game Freddy gets the ball tonight for the Yankees.

JermaineDye05
04-06-2011, 06:53 PM
Twins/Yankees rained out. I'm guessing there will be a double header tomorrow.

palehozenychicty
04-06-2011, 07:09 PM
Twins/Yankees rained out. I'm guessing there will be a double header tomorrow.

Interesting. There was minimal rain out in Queens. I'm out here for class.

JermaineDye05
04-06-2011, 07:59 PM
6-2 Tigers over Baltimore in the 6th.

Indians lead the Red Sox 3-2 in the 5th. Red Sox threatening with 1st/3rd. 2 outs and Ortiz up.

Manny Acta just played the 5th like it was the 8th.

Red Sox had a lead-off walk from Crawford who then stole 2nd.

Groundout from Pedroia.
Talbot intentionally walks Gonzalez
Talbot pulled for Durbin
Durbin Ks Youkilis
Durbin pulled for Perez
Perez gets Ortiz to groundout.

Red Sox continue to struggle.

JermaineDye05
04-06-2011, 08:43 PM
Youkilis and Varitek make a huge mistake.

Bases loaded no outs.

Youkilis drops a liner. Steps on third base for the first out. Throws to home, but Varitek doesn't tag the runner thinking there was still a force play.

4-2 Indians.

Asdrubal Cabrera goes deep.

7-2 Indians.

Red Sox in trouble again.

PeteWard
04-06-2011, 08:46 PM
They are ****ting their pants in New England.:tongue:

guillensdisciple
04-06-2011, 08:47 PM
Youkilis and Varitek make a huge mistake.

Bases loaded no outs.

Youkilis drops a liner. Steps on third base for the first out. Throws to home, but Varitek doesn't tag the runner thinking there was still a force play.

4-2 Indians.

Asdrubal Cabrera goes deep.

7-2 Indians.

Red Sox in trouble again.


I can only hope their year will be full of this kind of fail.

JermaineDye05
04-06-2011, 08:47 PM
They are ****ting their pants in New England.:tongue:

Yeah. Just think how crazy this board was about to go 5 hours ago when the Sox were in danger of dropping to 1 game under .500.

JermaineDye05
04-06-2011, 08:48 PM
I can only hope their year will be full of this kind of fail.

It really does give you a sick kind of pleasure watching them struggle.

guillensdisciple
04-06-2011, 08:52 PM
It really does give you a sick kind of pleasure watching them struggle.

I used to feel like this about the Yankees, and I still hate them, but I don't care like this anymore.

Now I just like to see the Red Sox and Cubs fail on a consistent basis.

JermaineDye05
04-06-2011, 08:53 PM
I used to feel like this about the Yankees, and I still hate them, but I don't care like this anymore.

Now I just like to see the Red Sox and Cubs fail on a consistent basis.

Cubs, I could care less.

Red Sox though. . .

they're just as bad as the Yankees. I just hope they're winning games when they have to face Minnesota and Detroit.

guillensdisciple
04-06-2011, 08:58 PM
Cubs, I could care less.

Red Sox though. . .

they're just as bad as the Yankees. I just hope they're winning games when they have to face Minnesota and Detroit.


Meh, parents and family are Cubs fans. I have my reasons.

DirtySox
04-06-2011, 09:00 PM
It really does give you a sick kind of pleasure watching them struggle.

Schadenfreude. Embrace it.

JermaineDye05
04-06-2011, 09:01 PM
Adrian Gonzalez just had an insanely good at-bat.

2-run HR.

7-4 Indians.

JermaineDye05
04-06-2011, 09:02 PM
Schadenfreude. Embrace it.

I probably should have said "us."

I certainly get a sick pleasure watching the BoSox struggle.

JermaineDye05
04-06-2011, 09:21 PM
LaPorta goes deep off Wakefield.

8-4 Indians.

JermaineDye05
04-06-2011, 09:31 PM
2 down in the 9th for the Red Sox.

It'll take a White Sox-like comeback for the Red Sox to tie this one.

Crawford flies out. And they say they're all-in.

0-5.

JermaineDye05
04-07-2011, 01:24 PM
Indians and Red Sox are tied 0-0 in the 8th.

Twins leading the Yankees 2-1.

JermaineDye05
04-07-2011, 01:36 PM
Indians now lead 1-0 in the top of the 9th.

I think the Red Sox are about to comeback.

DirtySox
04-07-2011, 01:38 PM
Indians now lead 1-0 in the top of the 9th.

I think the Red Sox are about to comeback.

With a suicide squeeze. Love it.

JermaineDye05
04-07-2011, 01:42 PM
2-out walk by Ortiz.

I just have a feeling the Red Sox turn it around here.

I was wrong.

WOW what a lucky bounce and bad baserunning.

Red Sox are 0-6

guillensdisciple
04-07-2011, 01:45 PM
Karma is so great.

hahahaah **** the Red Sox 0-6.

MUsoxfan
04-07-2011, 01:46 PM
2-out walk by Ortiz.

I just have a feeling the Red Sox turn it around here.

I was wrong.

WOW what a lucky bounce and bad baserunning.

Red Sox are 0-6


Words cannot express how wonderful that is. Here's to 0-9 after the weekend!:gulp:

Jollyroger2
04-07-2011, 01:49 PM
Karma is so great.

hahahaah **** the Red Sox 0-6.

0-6....wow. Love it.

DirtySox
04-07-2011, 03:24 PM
The Twins. They lose.

gobears1987
04-07-2011, 03:47 PM
Because JB hasn't said it yet...


The Twins are crappy, they are perpetual losers!

gobears1987
04-07-2011, 03:48 PM
The real tragedy of the Indians sweeping Boston and the Red Sox terrible start is that Bobby Jenks hasn't had a chance to blow a save.

russ99
04-07-2011, 03:54 PM
0-6....wow. Love it.

Being handed the pre-season league title doesn't mean jack.

Gotta play the games.

soltrain21
04-07-2011, 03:54 PM
The real tragedy of the Indians sweeping Boston and the Red Sox terrible start is that Bobby Jenks hasn't had a chance to blow a save.

He isn't their closer.

soxnut1018
04-07-2011, 03:56 PM
didthetwinswin.com

vinny
04-07-2011, 03:57 PM
The real tragedy of the Indians sweeping Boston and the Red Sox terrible start is that Bobby Jenks hasn't had a chance to blow a save.
Damn. Schadenfreude much?

I'm not sure ANY of the Sawx relievers have had a chance to blow a save yet. Bard lost the opener in relief, but they haven't even had a late lead to lose since then.

JermaineDye05
04-07-2011, 09:40 PM
Both the Tigers and Twins lost today, bringing both their records to 2-4.

White Sox are tied with the Indians and Royals at 4-2.

JermaineDye05
04-08-2011, 05:31 PM
Nathan in to close against the A's.

Twins took the lead 2-1 in the 8th.

Nathan topping out at 91.

Tigers already won today against the Royals. 5-2

JermaineDye05
04-08-2011, 05:41 PM
Nathan gets the save.

I still have to say though, I think he's going to have a real tough time this year, and may eventually lose his job to Matt Capps.

Just looking at his stuff which looks like it's just being floated up there, and the trouble he's having early on controlling that breaking ball, it just seems like hitters are going to be teeing off on him this year.

Same thing happened to Bobby once his velocity dropped and he wasn't getting that curve over for strikes anymore.

vinny
04-09-2011, 08:36 PM
Unbelievable. Oakland had bases loaded with one out in the 7th and came up with bupkis against the Twins. A's up 1-0, top of 8.

JermaineDye05
04-09-2011, 09:16 PM
:twinslose

1-0

Joe Mauer is still without an XBH.

TommyGavinFloyd
04-09-2011, 09:19 PM
My anger over last night's game has subsided thanks to our W today and the Twins losing 1-0 on a throwing error by Casilla. Gotta love baseball! :gulp:

vinny
04-09-2011, 09:50 PM
Meanwhile, the Tribe is up 2-0 on the M's in the 6th.

JermaineDye05
04-10-2011, 03:31 PM
Tigers lose 9-5 to the Royals.

Twinkies down 5-0 to the A's in the 8th.

HomeFish
04-10-2011, 03:46 PM
Damnit, scum-ladden A's gave up 3 runs in the 8th.

soxinem1
04-10-2011, 04:01 PM
Damnit, scum-ladden A's gave up 3 runs in the 8th.

Are you kidding? We should want MIN to tie the game........... then lose it in the 22nd inning.

Sockinchisox
04-10-2011, 04:02 PM
:twinslose

soxnut1018
04-10-2011, 04:04 PM
http://didthetwinswin.com/ :D:

asindc
04-10-2011, 04:07 PM
:twinslose

http://didthetwinswin.com/ :D:

Always good for a smile.

Corlose 15
04-10-2011, 04:40 PM
This is a big year for Detroit because both Leyland and Dombrowski could be unemployed come October. They're not off to a very good start.

Foulke You
04-10-2011, 07:58 PM
I know it is early, but the Royals and Tribe have played much better than expected so far this year. It seems like there is at least one or two "surprise" teams in baseball every season. Is anyone else concerned that one of these teams might be it? The Royals offense is pretty relentless but I'm wondering if that pitching they have can hold up over the long haul. I think the Tribe has caught a couple of teams at the right time. The M's are bad and the Red Sox couldn't beat their Pawtucket affiliate right now. However, you never know.

JermaineDye05
04-10-2011, 08:18 PM
I know it is early, but the Royals and Tribe have played much better than expected so far this year. It seems like there is at least one or two "surprise" teams in baseball every season. Is anyone else concerned that one of these teams might be it? The Royals offense is pretty relentless but I'm wondering if that pitching they have can hold up over the long haul. I think the Tribe has caught a couple of teams at the right time. The M's are bad and the Red Sox couldn't beat their Pawtucket affiliate right now. However, you never know.

Absolutely not. Both of their pitching staffs are horrendous.

guillensdisciple
04-10-2011, 08:22 PM
Absolutely not. Both of their pitching staffs are horrendous.


I am going to ditto you there. The Central seems really weak this year besides the offensive juggernaut that is the White Sox. The swoon will hit both teams soon, and it will probably end up Detroit or Minnesota in second, but I don't see either coming remotely close to the Sox if we stay healthy. Too many bats, and the pitching can be devastating when everything works together.

PeteWard
04-10-2011, 11:40 PM
I am going to ditto you there. The Central seems really weak this year besides the offensive juggernaut that is the White Sox. The swoon will hit both teams soon, and it will probably end up Detroit or Minnesota in second, but I don't see either coming remotely close to the Sox if we stay healthy. Too many bats, and the pitching can be devastating when everything works together.

I wish I could agree but I don't see the Sox running away. Bullpen is questionable and suddenly it looks as if defense may be an issue. This will be a race late into the season with Minny and maybe Detroit.

Foulke You
04-11-2011, 01:28 AM
This will be a race late into the season with Minny and maybe Detroit.
I hope you are wrong but I think you are probably right. It's going to be another Maalox type of August/September. However, I like our club's chances and I do feel better about our bullpen and defense than you. I think it will resolve itself as we go along. Too small a sample size to say that we have bullpen trouble right now other than the obvious Will Ohman who I hope can at least turn into a serviceable LOOGY for us. As far as our competition, the Twins are notorious for sputtering early and then picking it up in the 2nd half. Twins have been getting decent pitching but their offense has been slumbering. I'm hoping the huge turnover on their roster and lack of repeat career years from guys like Pavano, Valencia, etc. will help the Sox get a cushion on the division. Detroit's offense is good but I don't think that rotation is up to snuff. First things first though...KC and Cleveland need to cool off.

PeteWard
04-11-2011, 02:15 AM
I hope you are wrong but I think you are probably right. It's going to be another Maalox type of August/September. However, I like our club's chances and I do feel better about our bullpen and defense than you. I think it will resolve itself as we go along. Too small a sample size to say that we have bullpen trouble right now other than the obvious Will Ohman who I hope can at least turn into a serviceable LOOGY for us. As far as our competition, the Twins are notorious for sputtering early and then picking it up in the 2nd half. Twins have been getting decent pitching but their offense has been slumbering. I'm hoping the huge turnover on their roster and lack of repeat career years from guys like Pavano, Valencia, etc. will help the Sox get a cushion on the division. Detroit's offense is good but I don't think that rotation is up to snuff. First things first though...KC and Cleveland need to cool off.

Both will...and I think immediately. But I wish KC would stay hot as they play the Twinkies and I would like them to be about 5 back by the time the weekend is over. Sox team ERA is now second only to Cleveland in the division.

asindc
04-11-2011, 02:16 PM
Texas up on Detroit 2-0 going into bottom of 9th. Verlander pitched all nine, throwing 118 pitches. Earlier in the game, Cabrera doubled with Boesch on 1st, setting up 2nd and 3rd with one out. Next batter, V-Mart, pops up to Andrus, who doubles Cabrera off 2nd for third out.:o: Wonder how Cabrera explained that one.

JermaineDye05
04-11-2011, 02:27 PM
Tigers lose.

Rangers intentionally walked the potential tying run, Miguel Cabrera, to get to Martinez.

Now 3-7.

Let's win tonight, Sox.

palehozenychicty
04-11-2011, 02:30 PM
I really think if the Sox handle their own business, they'll run and hide with this division.

CHISOXFAN13
04-11-2011, 02:41 PM
Texas up on Detroit 2-0 going into bottom of 9th. Verlander pitched all nine, throwing 118 pitches. Earlier in the game, Cabrera doubled with Boesch on 1st, setting up 2nd and 3rd with one out. Next batter, V-Mart, pops up to Andrus, who doubles Cabrera off 2nd for third out.:o: Wonder how Cabrera explained that one.

If Verlander has to finish games this early just to keep the Tigers close then I can't take them seriously.

The Tigers and Twins look like **** this far, and that's just fine with me.

Crooked Number
04-12-2011, 12:44 AM
Texas up on Detroit 2-0 going into bottom of 9th. Verlander pitched all nine, throwing 118 pitches. Earlier in the game, Cabrera doubled with Boesch on 1st, setting up 2nd and 3rd with one out. Next batter, V-Mart, pops up to Andrus, who doubles Cabrera off 2nd for third out.:o: Wonder how Cabrera explained that one.


....hmm you don't say. I wonder if Buehrle would have needed this many to finish his game tonight. I wonder.

JermaineDye05
04-12-2011, 12:52 AM
....hmm you don't say. I wonder if Buehrle would have needed this many to finish his game tonight. I wonder.

You can't really compare the two.

Verlander is an ace.

Buehrle is a #3/#4 who was having a good game.

Also, you have to take into account that Verlander is a strikeout pitcher while Buehrle relies on contact. Very different going into the 9th.

Foulke You
04-12-2011, 01:03 AM
You can't really compare the two.

Verlander is an ace.

Buehrle is a #3/#4 who was having a good game.

Also, you have to take into account that Verlander is a strikeout pitcher while Buehrle relies on contact. Very different going into the 9th.
I think you can certainly compare the two. Buehrle is a soft tosser while Verlander depends on velocity to get guys out so if anything, it is Verlander's arm that is stressed more. Also, the fact that one guy is deemed a #1 or a #3 should have nothing to do with it. The game situation dictates the necessity to leave the starting pitcher in for the complete game. Leyland obviously felt that he needed one more inning out of Verlander who, like Buehrle, has been an innings machine for them.

JermaineDye05
04-12-2011, 01:07 AM
I think you can certainly compare the two. Buehrle is a soft tosser while Verlander depends on velocity to get guys out so if anything, it is Verlander's arm that is stressed more. Also, the fact that one guy is deemed a #1 or a #3 should have nothing to do with it. The game situation dictates the necessity to leave the starting pitcher in for the complete game.

I think there's a different mentality for a manager when going into the 9th. Especially when you're looking at a pitcher that has to rely on his defense a whole lot to get outs. A defense that has had some troubles in this first week+.

palehozenychicty
04-12-2011, 07:48 AM
Have the Indians realized that they aren't good yet? :tongue:

guillensdisciple
04-12-2011, 10:55 AM
Have the Indians realized that they aren't good yet? :tongue:

They did, against us- not so much against everyone else.

palehozenychicty
04-12-2011, 11:14 AM
They did, against us- not so much against everyone else.

I know they will fall back soon. It's just amusing to me.

GoGoCrede
04-12-2011, 11:25 AM
I know they will fall back soon. It's just amusing to me.

One of my friends wrote on my wall for my birthday and he was like "Happy birthday, oh by the way the Indians are in first place." We'll see how long it lasts, buddy. :cool:

medlaker24
04-12-2011, 02:30 PM
I think you can certainly compare the two. Buehrle is a soft tosser while Verlander depends on velocity to get guys out so if anything, it is Verlander's arm that is stressed more. Also, the fact that one guy is deemed a #1 or a #3 should have nothing to do with it. The game situation dictates the necessity to leave the starting pitcher in for the complete game. Leyland obviously felt that he needed one more inning out of Verlander who, like Buehrle, has been an innings machine for them.


Being a soft tosser does not make Buehrle's arm any less stressed IMO. He may throw a lot slower than Verlander, but he is still throwing the ball as hard as he is capable of. It is not like he is choosing to throw the ball slower.

doublem23
04-12-2011, 02:42 PM
Being a soft tosser does not make Buehrle's arm any less stressed IMO. He may throw a lot slower than Verlander, but he is still throwing the ball as hard as he is capable of. It is not like he is choosing to throw the ball slower.

Yes he is.

Almost every MLB pitcher is capable of adding a a few clicks on the radar to their fastballs, problem is they start having problems locating it.

doublem23
04-12-2011, 02:44 PM
I think there's a different mentality for a manager when going into the 9th. Especially when you're looking at a pitcher that has to rely on his defense a whole lot to get outs. A defense that has had some troubles in this first week+.

This is also a pitcher who had allowed 3 baserunners in 8 innings, none of them past 1st base, and who had essentially given up maybe 2 well-hit balls all night.

medlaker24
04-12-2011, 02:56 PM
Yes he is.

Almost every MLB pitcher is capable of adding a a few clicks on the radar to their fastballs, problem is they start having problems locating it.

I understand this, that's why I said capable of, not as hard as he can. You have to be able to place it. Verlander and Buerhle both are throwing as hard as they are capable of without having control issues.

doublem23
04-12-2011, 03:12 PM
I understand this, that's why I said capable of, not as hard as he can. You have to be able to place it. Verlander and Buerhle both are throwing as hard as they are capable of without having control issues.

Well we're just splitting semantics if we're arguing over the defitions of "capable of" and "as hard as you can." I didn't understand you're argument and I'm sorry.

Though, we will have to agree to disagree on finesse pitchers like Buehrle stressing their arms as much as power pitchers like Verlander. Of course, there are exceptions to these rules, but in general, I think baseball history has shown that guys like Buehrle generally last longer than guys like Verlander.

medlaker24
04-12-2011, 03:22 PM
Well we're just splitting semantics if we're arguing over the defitions of "capable of" and "as hard as you can." I didn't understand you're argument and I'm sorry.

Though, we will have to agree to disagree on finesse pitchers like Buehrle stressing their arms as much as power pitchers like Verlander. Of course, there are exceptions to these rules, but in general, I think baseball history has shown that guys like Buehrle generally last longer than guys like Verlander.

Maybe we are, I guess what I am saying is that if I were to go out and throw 100 pitches right now(with enough control to be effective) my arm would be worn out the same amount as if Buerhle or Verlander did the same thing. However our velocity's would be way different. Me being below 80mph, Buerhle being mid 80's and Verlander being mid to upper 90's. The term "soft tosser" is a bit misleading because they are still throwing the ball as hard as they are capable of, it just so happens that they don't have the arm strength to throw it as fast. If you think Buerhle can throw just as fast as Verlander but without control then that is crazy.
Buerhle will last longer in the league because he is left handed and has good control of his pitches. A right handed version of Buerhle would probably be done already.

asindc
04-12-2011, 03:28 PM
Detroit beats Texas with Cabrera bases-loaded single in bottom of 9th.

vinny
04-12-2011, 09:11 PM
Royals and Twins tied at 3 in the 7th. Hopefully they go 15 or so tonight.

Marqhead
04-12-2011, 09:47 PM
Royals and Twins tied at 3 in the 7th. Hopefully they go 15 or so tonight.

Would have been cooler if the Royals could have scored with 1st and 3rd and nobody out.

vinny
04-12-2011, 10:47 PM
The bad news: Twins win 4-3.

The good news: Twins still only 4-6.

The OK news: Royals fall behind the Sox in the standings.

JermaineDye05
04-12-2011, 11:09 PM
When was the last time three ALC teams hit walk-offs on the same night?

doublem23
04-12-2011, 11:22 PM
So, I just went to indians.com to check on the CLE/LAA game and I got a "Live" look-in, streaming video of the game. Anyone know why? I don't have MLB.tv or anything.

Anyways, Haren just finished off a 1-hitter of the Tribe. Angels win 2-0.

JermaineDye05
04-12-2011, 11:23 PM
So, I just went to indians.com to check on the CLE/LAA game and I got a "Live" look-in, streaming video of the game. Anyone know why? I don't have MLB.tv or anything.

Anyways, Haren just finished off a 1-hitter of the Tribe. Angels win 2-0.

Haren's faced some pretty lackluster teams in TB/CLE/KC, but he looks like he's back into that Cy Young form.

asindc
04-13-2011, 08:12 AM
So, I just went to indians.com to check on the CLE/LAA game and I got a "Live" look-in, streaming video of the game. Anyone know why? I don't have MLB.tv or anything.

Anyways, Haren just finished off a 1-hitter of the Tribe. Angels win 2-0.

Probably because MLB.tv is currently doing a free trial.

DirtySox
04-13-2011, 01:33 PM
Minny has come back in today's game. KC up 6 - 5.

vinny
04-13-2011, 02:42 PM
Hughes got shelled in the top of the 9th. KC up 9-5, bases loaded and one out.

MtGrnwdSoxFan
04-13-2011, 02:43 PM
Hughes got shelled in the top of the 9th. KC up 9-5, bases loaded and one out.

You mean that not every pitcher the Twins call up becomes Cy Young reincarnated?

PalehosePlanet
04-13-2011, 03:00 PM
Nice to see that Liriano is still in '08/'09 form. If he continues to pitch terribly, they're in trouble.

MtGrnwdSoxFan
04-13-2011, 03:04 PM
Hey, Chief, did the Twins win? (http://www.didthetwinswin.com)

vinny
04-13-2011, 03:21 PM
Detroit with another walk-off against Texas.

PatK
04-13-2011, 04:23 PM
Meanwhile, the Sox bullpen hijinx continue.

aryzner
04-14-2011, 08:45 PM
Guess the Sox aren't the only team blowing saves. Nathan just blew one for the Twins, game went to extras and the Twins scored 1 in the 10th to make it 3-2. Capps proceeds to blow his save opportuniy by giving up a walkoff 2 run HR.

dwitt76
04-14-2011, 08:47 PM
Yes! 4 more and they know how we feel. They had 2 tonight. Not sure if we have even done that

JermaineDye05
04-14-2011, 08:52 PM
Guess the Sox aren't the only team blowing saves. Nathan just blew one for the Twins, game went to extras and the Twins scored 1 in the 10th to make it 3-2. Capps proceeds to blow his save opportuniy by giving up a walkoff 2 run HR.

There's going to be more of that. He just isn't the same pitcher right now.

aryzner
04-14-2011, 09:01 PM
There's going to be more of that. He just isn't the same pitcher right now.
Upsets me even more that if the Sox would just close out 2 or 3 of the games that have been blown, they could be like 5 or 6 games up on the Twins in the standings. :angry:

TommyGavinFloyd
04-14-2011, 09:15 PM
Upsets me even more that if the Sox would just close out 2 or 3 of the games that have been blown, they could be like 5 or 6 games up on the Twins in the standings. :angry:

Well, word is Joe Mauer is going on the DL with "bilateral leg weakness" so hopefully the Sox can gain a few games in that span.

DSpivack
04-14-2011, 09:18 PM
Well, word is Joe Mauer is going on the DL with "bilateral leg weakness" so hopefully the Sox can gain a few games in that span.

What is that?

ChiSoxGirl
04-14-2011, 09:20 PM
Upsets me even more that if the Sox would just close out 2 or 3 of the games that have been blown, they could be like 5 or 6 games up on the Twins in the standings. :angry:

I think Brian26 posted in another thread that we'd be SEVEN games up on them! Infuriating. :angry: :angry:

MtGrnwdSoxFan
04-14-2011, 09:25 PM
Well, word is Joe Mauer is going on the DL with "bilateral leg weakness" so hopefully the Sox can gain a few games in that span.

Doubtful...the Twins will call up some no-name catcher who's never caught above A-ball and will hit .538 in Mauer's absence.

WhiteSox5187
04-14-2011, 09:42 PM
What is that?

I suspect it is related to his knee surgery he had in the off season.

Taliesinrk
04-14-2011, 09:45 PM
What is that?

It means there's weakness in both of his legs (unilateral would mean it was in just one).

vinny
04-14-2011, 09:47 PM
I suspect it is related to his knee surgery he had in the off season.
I suspect it's from making so many goddamn trips to the mound.

Taliesinrk
04-14-2011, 10:04 PM
I suspect it is related to his knee surgery he had in the off season.

IIRC, his surgery was strictly a knee procedure. A knee surgery would rarely be the cause of "bilateral leg weakness". Much higher on the list of potential causes are nerve or muscle deficits or (less likely) neurological or vascular problems.

ChiSoxGal85
04-14-2011, 10:07 PM
I suspect it's from making so many goddamn trips to the mound.
:rolling:

Bruizer
04-15-2011, 08:04 AM
Guess the Sox aren't the only team blowing saves. Nathan just blew one for the Twins, game went to extras and the Twins scored 1 in the 10th to make it 3-2. Capps proceeds to blow his save opportuniy by giving up a walkoff 2 run HR.

They showed parts of it live on MLB last night. That was fun to watch! Nice job, Damon! :cool:

vinny
04-15-2011, 08:46 PM
I gotta know, did the Twins win? (http://didthetwinswin.com)
:D:

JermaineDye05
04-16-2011, 06:29 PM
Joe Nathan blows another one.

:twinslose

Knew this was going to happen.

Gave up a lead-off homer to Ben Zobrist.

Walked three guys with a few outs in between, and then gave up the walk-off single to Damon.

His fastball was topping out at 92.

WhiteSoxOnly
04-16-2011, 06:31 PM
Twins lose again as Rays get one in the 8th,and 2 in the 9th.Nice
to know our Sox should have had these guys so far back in their
rear view mirror...but no.

JB98
04-16-2011, 06:40 PM
The Twins are crappy. They are perpetual losers.

Too bad the Sox are not much better right now.

vinny
04-16-2011, 06:59 PM
The Twins are crappy. They are perpetual losers.

Too bad the Sox are not much better right now.

Yep. If this is the only thing Sox fans will have to look forward to, it's gonna be a long summer.

SBSoxFan
04-16-2011, 11:17 PM
IIRC, his surgery was strictly a knee procedure. A knee surgery would rarely be the cause of "bilateral leg weakness". Much higher on the list of potential causes are nerve or muscle deficits or (less likely) neurological or vascular problems.

Yes, and didn't Mauer start the season a couple of years ago on the DL for some kind of non-specific inflammation in his lower back? Really sounds like it could be nerve related.

soltrain21
04-16-2011, 11:24 PM
Did anyone see that crazy Verlander pick off/pitch/whatever the hell it was today?

Marqhead
04-17-2011, 11:26 AM
Did anyone see that crazy Verlander pick off/pitch/whatever the hell it was today?

Just saw the replay, pretty funny. Sounds like it was just a mental brain fart for him.

Foulke You
04-17-2011, 12:45 PM
Just saw the replay, pretty funny. Sounds like it was just a mental brain fart for him.
Here is a link to the Verlander brain cramp. Pretty amusing:

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/What-the-Justin-Verlander-commits-the-balk-of-?urn=mlb-wp3620

JermaineDye05
04-18-2011, 01:06 PM
Nathan has been pulled from the closers role.

Link (http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/articles/2011/04/18/twins_remove_nathan_from_closers_role/)

Capps in.

vinny
04-19-2011, 09:14 PM
Twins lose. Yay. We're not in last place yet.

asindc
04-19-2011, 09:28 PM
Twins lose. Yay. We're not in last place yet.

And look bad doing so. If we think Teahen looks bad at 3rd (and he does, of course), you should see Alexi Casiila play SS.

DirtySox
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Zakath
05-15-2011, 06:09 PM
Twins lose their 8th in a row. And these games haven't been close. 21 runs scored, 56 given up.

Wow, sucks to be them. :bandance::wooty:

soltrain21
05-15-2011, 06:21 PM
Twins lose their 8th in a row. And these games haven't been close. 21 runs scored, 56 given up.

Wow, sucks to be them. :bandance::wooty:

Cmon. It's not like we are setting the world on fire.

DumpJerry
05-15-2011, 06:26 PM
Twins lose their 8th in a row. And these games haven't been close. 21 runs scored, 56 given up.

Wow, sucks to be them. :bandance::wooty:
I would cry, but then I look at the first two words in your post and :) instead.

palehozenychicty
05-15-2011, 06:43 PM
The Twins are awful. Thank you. :tongue:

sox1970
05-15-2011, 06:57 PM
The Twins are awful. Thank you. :tongue:

They still get 16 more cracks at us. I'm not saying a word.

gogosox675
05-15-2011, 06:59 PM
It's nice to see the Twins have the worst record in baseball at this point in the season. It's getting pretty easy to answer this (http://didthetwinswin.com/) question anymore. :smile:

palehozenychicty
05-16-2011, 11:35 AM
They still get 16 more cracks at us. I'm not saying a word.

It is definitely not over with them. They just look worse than we have, and Mauer's status does not look good.

FielderJones
05-16-2011, 04:04 PM
It is definitely not over with them. They just look worse than we have, and Mauer's status does not look good.

Why is it over for the Sox, but not over for the Twins? That they play the game "the right way" (except for all the mistakes this year)? Is there some sort of "Twins magic" that applies to them alone? This superstitious nonsense is worse than the "West Coast Curse".

Maybe Gavin can run an analysis of the final winning percentage of teams that start out 12 - 26.

1989
05-16-2011, 04:44 PM
The twins are a team that likes being called "baseball players." As opposed to, you know, circus clowns or airline pilots, either of which would be just as accurate.

twins way of playing = Wrong way to play. I'm pretty sure I would kill myself if I were a twins fan.

palehozenychicty
05-16-2011, 06:43 PM
Why is it over for the Sox, but not over for the Twins? That they play the game "the right way" (except for all the mistakes this year)? Is there some sort of "Twins magic" that applies to them alone? This superstitious nonsense is worse than the "West Coast Curse".

Maybe Gavin can run an analysis of the final winning percentage of teams that start out 12 - 26.


I know some people have quit on us, but I'm not. Nobody should quit right now. It's only May 16!

vinny
05-16-2011, 07:29 PM
Maybe Gavin can run an analysis of the final winning percentage of teams that start out 12 - 26.

Well, using the data on this page (http://spiff.rit.edu/richmond/baseball/record_corr/record_corr.html) (although it's 5 years old), we could predict (with 69% confidence) that the Twins will finish with between 58 and 75 wins.

DirtySox
05-16-2011, 09:06 PM
Indians have put up 17 on the Royals tonight. 14 on Vin Mazarro. Cleveland now is leading the AL in runs per game.

vinny
05-16-2011, 09:32 PM
Indians have put up 17 on the Royals tonight. 14 on Vin Mazarro. Cleveland now is leading the AL in runs per game.
What a disaster. Davies only lasted 0.1 as a starter before leaving with shoulder trouble, but not before walking the bases loaded.

Make it 19 -- 10 scored in the 4th inning. Every starter has hit and scored.

Holy ****.

SBSoxFan
05-16-2011, 10:00 PM
Indians have put up 17 on the Royals tonight. 14 on Vin Mazarro. Cleveland now is leading the AL in runs per game.

If the Sox can't get turned around, I hope Cleveland wins 120 games so the season wouldn't have mattered anyway.

DirtySox
05-23-2011, 09:41 PM
Cleveland just tied up their game with Boston. 2 - 2 in the 8th. I have to admit that the Indians have been pretty entertaining to watch this year.

DirtySox
05-23-2011, 09:42 PM
Seconds later Asdrubal doubles off the wall giving them the lead. Bard blowing it. Game is on ESPN2.

DirtySox
05-23-2011, 09:54 PM
Perez with his 1:1 K/BB ratio close to giving the run back.

Edit: Crawford GIDP with runners on 1st and 3rd. Cleveland wins, and they are turning me into a believer.

JB98
05-23-2011, 10:13 PM
We're getting to a point now where Cleveland will win this division if it plays .500 ball the rest of the year.

JB98
05-23-2011, 11:09 PM
The Twins are crappy. They are perpetual losers.

Minnesota takes a 7-4 lead into the eighth inning tonight. Nathan and Capps blow it. Seattle wins 8-7 in 10 innings.

Capps is absolute garbage as a closer. Complete horse****. It always frustrates me when the Sox hitters fail to do anything with that mediocre (at best) fastball and cement-mixer slider.

It also figures the Sox would also be struggling in a year where Minnesota is among the worst teams in MLB.

102605
05-23-2011, 11:11 PM
Perez with his 1:1 K/BB ratio close to giving the run back.

Edit: Crawford GIDP with runners on 1st and 3rd. Cleveland wins, and they are turning me into a believer.

They surely do seem like they just find a way to win almost every night. I'm with whomever said that if the Sox can't figure it out, I'm rooting for the Indians.

DirtySox
05-23-2011, 11:16 PM
The Twins are crappy. They are perpetual losers.

Minnesota takes a 7-4 lead into the eighth inning tonight. Nathan and Capps blow it. Seattle wins 8-7 in 10 innings.

Capps is absolute garbage as a closer. Complete horse****. It always frustrates me when the Sox hitters fail to do anything with that mediocre (at best) fastball and cement-mixer slider.

It also figures the Sox would also be struggling in a year where Minnesota is among the worst teams in MLB.

The Ramos for Capps trade was and still is ****ing hilarious. I'm sure Minny would love a .272/.347/.447 line and fine defense at the catcher position right now.

JB98
05-24-2011, 12:20 AM
The Ramos for Capps trade was and still is ****ing hilarious. I'm sure Minny would love a .272/.347/.447 line and fine defense at the catcher position right now.

Butera's .110/.141/.288 isn't getting it done right now.

I think Minnesota's bullpen is its biggest problem though. The Twins have always had good relief pitching through the last seven or eight years, but Glen Perkins (of all people) has been their only reliable reliever this season. And he just went on the DL with an oblique strain.

They lost Guerrier, Crain, Rauch and Fuentes over the offseason. No matter what people think of any of those pitchers individually, that's a lot of innings to replace.

Right now, they are replacing those innings with guys like Alex Burnett and Phil Dumatrait. :o: Nathan is pitching like garbage, and Capps is the second coming of Joe Borowski. It's no wonder they struggle.

I get the impression some people are expecting the Indians to sink like a rock and the Twins to go on a tear. I'm not buying on either count. Sure, the Tribe won't play .667 ball all year, just as the Twins won't play .333 ball all year. But Cleveland is looking like a pretty resourceful team so far, while the lucky horseshoe seems to have finally fallen out of Minnesota's ass.

thomas35forever
05-24-2011, 12:33 AM
Guess we gave our 'pen struggles to the Twins after Liriano no-hit us.

TommyJohn
05-24-2011, 06:22 AM
The Twins are crappy. They are perpetual losers.

Minnesota takes a 7-4 lead into the eighth inning tonight. Nathan and Capps blow it. Seattle wins 8-7 in 10 innings.

Capps is absolute garbage as a closer. Complete horse****. It always frustrates me when the Sox hitters fail to do anything with that mediocre (at best) fastball and cement-mixer slider.

It also figures the Sox would also be struggling in a year where Minnesota is among the worst teams in MLB.

Nathan wants MLB games shortened by one inning
"We don't have a good bullpen. MLB should make games 8 innings instead of 9, so we could win more. It's just so unfair."

JB98
05-24-2011, 12:27 PM
Nathan wants MLB games shortened by one inning
"We don't have a good bullpen. MLB should make games 8 innings instead of 9, so we could win more. It's just so unfair."

LOL! I can see Nathan saying that, too. They are excuse-makers up there in Minnesota.

TDog
05-24-2011, 01:16 PM
LOL! I can see Nathan saying that, too. They are excuse-makers up there in Minnesota.

In Nathan's defense (what an awful way to begin a post), he did go to his manager and to say he didn't have what it takes to close this year. He hasn't been whining and making excuses for his poor performance. Even in his first save and a scoreless outing (two-thirds of an inning) I watched against the A's, he didn't look like a very good pitcher.

Nonetheless, joking about the whining of the pre-surgery Joe Nathan remains funny and will always remain so as long as he and the Twins are down.

Frater Perdurabo
05-24-2011, 03:05 PM
The past does not predict the future.

However, in 2010, the Sox had a better record than the Twins against all other teams. But the Twins destroyed the Sox in head-to-head games, allowing them to win the division.

It is possible that the Sox might have the Indians' number this year. If so, the Indians might have a better record than the Sox against all other teams. But the Sox could make up their difference if they continue winning 4 out of every 5 games against the Indians.

Short of another 25-5 run, it's getting to the point where owning the Indians might be our only hope.

MtGrnwdSoxFan
05-24-2011, 04:54 PM
The past does not predict the future.

However, in 2010, the Sox had a better record than the Twins against all other teams. But the Twins destroyed the Sox in head-to-head games, allowing them to win the division.

It is possible that the Sox might have the Indians' number this year. If so, the Indians might have a better record than the Sox against all other teams. But the Sox could make up their difference if they continue winning 4 out of every 5 games against the Indians.

Short of another 25-5 run, it's getting to the point where owning the Indians might be our only hope.

If we do that, that'll only allow Detroit to overtake them.

Starting now, we need to go on a tear against EVERYONE in the division. Going 14-5 against the Wahoos doesn't help much if we go 28-48 against every other team in the division.

I also feel that no matter how bad Minnesota's record is, they'll still end up with a winning record against us.

gogosox675
05-25-2011, 01:00 PM
Boston is putting a beat down on Cleveland. 13-0 in the top of the 6th! :bandance:

spongyfungy
05-26-2011, 02:16 PM
Boston beating Detroit 8-1 in the bottom of the 6th. Max Scherzer rocked today.

:bandance:

vinny
05-26-2011, 07:17 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen, we are, for the moment, in third place. Thank you Royals! :clap:

Zakath
05-26-2011, 10:34 PM
The last-place teams in both the East and West are closer to first than the second-place Tigers are to the Tribe.

Just seems really strange.

MtGrnwdSoxFan
05-26-2011, 10:59 PM
The last-place teams in both the East and West are closer to first than the second-place Tigers are to the Tribe.

Just seems really strange.

That's what happens when a team gets stupid-hot in the first quarter of the season.

The Indians just don't have the talent to keep this going, IMO.

gogosox675
05-26-2011, 11:02 PM
Boston beating Detroit 8-1 in the bottom of the 6th. Max Scherzer rocked today.

:bandance:
I can't wait for the Sox to play these guys at Fenway.

WhiteSox5187
05-27-2011, 12:43 AM
That's what happens when a team gets stupid-hot in the first quarter of the season.

The Indians just don't have the talent to keep this going, IMO.

I don't know, they're 6-4 in their last ten and it is near Memorial Day when you usually have a rough idea of who is for real and who isn't. They might be for real, I'm sure a lot of Cleveland fans were saying that the White Sox weren't for real in 2000.

MtGrnwdSoxFan
05-27-2011, 01:30 AM
I don't know, they're 6-4 in their last ten and it is near Memorial Day when you usually have a rough idea of who is for real and who isn't. They might be for real, I'm sure a lot of Cleveland fans were saying that the White Sox weren't for real in 2000.

I don't think they're going to totally fall off the face of the earth, but I don't think they're a .667 team either.

As someone said, the Indians have allowed themselves the luxury of only needing to go .500 to finish with 88 wins - which right now would likely win the division going away. But you look at this Indians team, and I'm confused as to how they have as good of a record as they do when I look up and down their roster.

On the other side of the coin, the Sox have too much talent to keep underachieving. Dunn, our big catch, has been arguably MLB's worst player for the money he's getting. The only ones who are doing their jobs on offense this year have been Q, Konerko, Castro, Vizquel and Lillibridge(!) Three of our most effective players are bench players. The Sox' saving grace is their pitching.

I don't expect either team to continue on their trends. I think it'll even out. I don't necessarily think the Indians won't win the division, but I don't expect them to win 108 games as they're on pace to.

Zakath
05-27-2011, 07:27 AM
That's what happens when a team gets stupid-hot in the first quarter of the season.

The Indians just don't have the talent to keep this going, IMO.

Stupid-hot just against certain teams.

They're 30-17, but 1-4 vs. the Sox and 0-2 vs. the Twins. They've already played KC 9 times and are 7-2 against them, as well as 3-0 vs. Detroit and 4-0 vs. Seattle.

The next stretch will see what they're really made of, because after losing 2 of 3 to Boston, they have 3 @Tampa, 3 @ Toronto, 4 vs. Texas, 3 vs. Minnesota, 4 @ New York, and 3 @ Detroit before they go back to interleague.

Marqhead
05-27-2011, 10:34 PM
Twins lose again. :gulp:

ChiSoxGirl
05-27-2011, 10:43 PM
Twins lose again. :gulp:

The best part of this news is that they were up 5-0 after seven!

doublem23
05-28-2011, 12:33 AM
Twins lose again. :gulp:

:whiner:

They finally fall apart and we suck just a little bit less.

Welcome back to 4th place.

dwitt76
05-28-2011, 10:32 AM
Twins lose again. :gulp:

Indians too :cool:

ode to veeck
05-30-2011, 05:16 PM
Twins lose to Tigers on controversial fan interference call, but at this point we'd rather see the Kittens lose.

mzh
05-30-2011, 07:44 PM
Tribe getting bombed 11-1 by the Jays, and it's only the 5th. Maybe that young starting pitching of theirs is starting to implode.

DirtySox
05-30-2011, 07:55 PM
Tribe getting bombed 11-1 by the Jays, and it's only the 5th. Maybe that young starting pitching of theirs is starting to implode.

Lucky for the Tribe the Sox are gracious enough to lose along side of them.