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Fenway
04-01-2011, 01:57 PM
:o:

http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/mlb/news/story?id=6280485

downstairs
04-01-2011, 02:11 PM
WOW... that is absolutely brutal! Wonder if the victims egged them on at all? There's no justification, just curious.

g0g0
04-01-2011, 02:18 PM
It's only Opening Day, geeeez.

doublem23
04-01-2011, 02:29 PM
It's only Opening Day, geeeez.

Absolutely, no reason to beat someone to an inch of their life until at least August.

LongLiveFisk
04-01-2011, 02:45 PM
Some people are such *******s. :shakehead:

People that do that **** should be banned from the ballpark.

DSpivack
04-01-2011, 03:10 PM
This rivalry seems to bring that out more than any other. A number of years ago a fan was killed after a Giants-Dodgers game.

illinibk
04-01-2011, 04:02 PM
Deadspin touched on this last year:

http://deadspin.com/#!5357489/why-your-stadium-sucks-dodger-stadium

SOXSINCE'70
04-01-2011, 05:39 PM
Pretty pathetic.:tsk::shakehead:

g0g0
04-01-2011, 06:48 PM
Absolutely, no reason to beat someone to an inch of their life until at least August.

:rolling:

TDog
04-01-2011, 07:06 PM
Absolutely, no reason to beat someone to an inch of their life until at least August.

I appreciate the dark humor in your post.

The Giants-Dodgers rivalry is intense, but this is the sort of thing I would more expect to see at an Oakland Raiders game.

SI1020
04-02-2011, 10:02 AM
It's happened before. I would say this is the most intense and dangerous rivalry in American professional sports.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?id=1625187

Fenway
04-02-2011, 11:19 AM
LA Police say only 72 arrested at game - down from last year


http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-04-02-dodgers-20110402,0,5917572.story

PatK
04-02-2011, 11:41 AM
Some people are such *******s. :shakehead:

People that do that **** should be banned from the ballpark.

I'm thinking jail time may be better,

LongLiveFisk
04-02-2011, 06:30 PM
I'm thinking jail time may be better,

Probably. It also just occurred to me that the Giants winning the WS last year is only going to add to the animosity some of these Dodger fans are feeling. No excuses for that behavior though.

skobabe8
04-02-2011, 06:36 PM
Absolutely, no reason to beat someone to an inch of their life until at least August.

laugh out loud

Red Barchetta
04-02-2011, 07:15 PM
People need to gain perspective. It's a frickin' baseball game! It doesn't matter how passionate you are about your team or whether or not you can handle your game beer. If you want to fight, sign up for a tour of duty in Afghanistan or Iraq.

ernie14
04-02-2011, 08:35 PM
People need to gain perspective. It's a frickin' baseball game! It doesn't matter how passionate you are about your team or whether or not you can handle your game beer. If you want to fight, sign up for a tour of duty in Afghanistan or Iraq.


Amen. Very well said. My God, you're supposed to have fun with the fans of opposing teams. Friendly teasing.

Would not be any fun if everyone liked the same team.

Hope they lock those creeps up for a long time.

Doesn't matter if they were drunk. You're responsible for your actions --

Drunk or Sober

Foulke You
04-02-2011, 11:34 PM
It's stories like this that make me stick to my tried and true policy of letting the ballpark empty out completely before I leave when I'm watching the Sox at a road team's park. Poor guy came to watch his Giants play and ended up in the hospital. You gotta love the fact that there was a child in the back seat of the attacker's car. Mercy.

A story like this also takes me back to when a certain nameless sports columnist used to write about how these type of things only happened with White Sox fans. Ahhh, the memories.

Fenway
04-03-2011, 10:28 AM
LA columnist explodes

http://bostonherald.com/sports/columnists/view/20110403dodgers_cant_ignore_safety_issue/srvc=home&position=recent

Red Barchetta
04-03-2011, 11:46 AM
It's stories like this that make me stick to my tried and true policy of letting the ballpark empty out completely before I leave when I'm watching the Sox at a road team's park. Poor guy came to watch his Giants play and ended up in the hospital. You gotta love the fact that there was a child in the back seat of the attacker's car. Mercy.

A story like this also takes me back to when a certain nameless sports columnist used to write about how these type of things only happened with White Sox fans. Ahhh, the memories.

As a Chicago transplant in Sarasota, I have learned how to navigate around Tropicana pretty well for Rays games. When I attend the SOX series, I usually hit the sportsbar inside the ballpark at the end of the game to allow for the traffic to clear out of the parking lot before venturing out.

Even if I'm with my family sporting SOX gear, it's amazing how many drunk tailgating fans still shoot out obscenities and carry their loyalty too far.

It is fun when fans joke back and forth, however some guys simply don't know how to manage their alcohol intake and will use any excuse to start a fight. Unfortunately, pro sports often provides a convenient excuse.

SoxfaninLA
04-05-2011, 07:55 AM
I appreciate the dark humor in your post.

The Giants-Dodgers rivalry is intense, but this is the sort of thing I would more expect to see at an Oakland Raiders game.

There is a LOT of overlap between Raiders and Dodgers fans. The pavilion in Chavez Ravine is home to some of the worst "fans" I have ever seen. I know the bleachers in old Yankee Stadium had a reputation but I imagine the pavilion at a Dodgers game would make those bleachers seem like a daycare.

Red Barchetta
04-05-2011, 08:09 AM
I appreciate the dark humor in your post.

The Giants-Dodgers rivalry is intense, but this is the sort of thing I would more expect to see at an Oakland Raiders game.

...or at a European soccer match.

Fenway
04-05-2011, 05:18 PM
They are saying even if fan recovers he will never be the same

http://www.nesn.com/2011/04/reward-for-assailants-in-beating-of-giants-fan-brian-stow-doubled-to-50000.html

ChiSoxGal85
04-05-2011, 05:54 PM
They are saying even if fan recovers he will never be the same

http://www.nesn.com/2011/04/reward-for-assailants-in-beating-of-giants-fan-brian-stow-doubled-to-50000.html

I hope they catch those idiots that did that to him. :angry:

AZChiSoxFan
04-05-2011, 06:28 PM
If I was the guy, I would want to know why my two "friends" ran off and ditched me. Shouldn't three guys be able to fend off two? The story didn't mention that the two guys had any weapons.

SI1020
04-06-2011, 10:34 AM
If I was the guy, I would want to know why my two "friends" ran off and ditched me. Shouldn't three guys be able to fend off two? The story didn't mention that the two guys had any weapons. Some guys, probably the majority, are not cut out for street fighting. Besides, when you go to a baseball game you shouldn't expect to be beaten to within an inch of your life. This a terrible story that cries out for whatever justice the system can give.

Fenway
04-06-2011, 10:56 AM
Giants fan Bryan Stow suffering from brain damage (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/04/06/BALI1IQNGH.DTL)

Red Barchetta
04-06-2011, 07:27 PM
Giants fan Bryan Stow suffering from brain damage (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/04/06/BALI1IQNGH.DTL)

I also found out today that he is a paramedic. So basically, two meatball thugs beat the hell out of a paramedic who on a daily basis, helps other people and saves lives. :angry:

I also heard on the news that Stow was texting or tweeting during the game how he was scared and being threatened. If that's true, this act might be pre-meditated which takes this assult into an entirely different catagory like attempted murder.

I hope they catch these bastards soon and I hope one of their "friends" turns them in for the reward!

thomas35forever
04-06-2011, 07:55 PM
Giants fan Bryan Stow suffering from brain damage (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/04/06/BALI1IQNGH.DTL)
This really puts being a sports fan in perspective and makes you realize that sometimes, the wrong people decided to become them.

AZChiSoxFan
04-06-2011, 09:41 PM
Some guys, probably the majority, are not cut out for street fighting. Besides, when you go to a baseball game you shouldn't expect to be beaten to within an inch of your life. This a terrible story that cries out for whatever justice the system can give.

Yes, I'm probably the last guy that is cut out for street fighting. But if thugs come up to me and my buddy, I'm not taking off just because I can outrun my buddy.

Hitmen77
04-07-2011, 07:41 AM
Dodgers are hiring a former police chief as head of security. They haven't had one in months:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/breaking/la-sp-0407-dodgers-security-20110407,0,1319948.story?track=rss

Deadspin touched on this last year:

http://deadspin.com/#!5357489/why-your-stadium-sucks-dodger-stadium (http://deadspin.com/#%215357489/why-your-stadium-sucks-dodger-stadium)

Some of the comments at the bottom of the article are an eye opener to problems at Dodger Stadium. Never having been there myself, I'm surprised to hear this. I have imagine fans their being the laid-back So. California type that don't get all worked up about sports.

Those comments are pretty bad! Where is security at that park. I know **** goes on at the Cell too and security can't be everywhere all the time, but at least it seems to me that Sox security is pretty responsive to fans that are starting trouble.

Red Barchetta
04-07-2011, 08:54 AM
Dodgers are hiring a former police chief as head of security. They haven't had one in months:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/breaking/la-sp-0407-dodgers-security-20110407,0,1319948.story?track=rss



Some of the comments at the bottom of the article are an eye opener to problems at Dodger Stadium. Never having been there myself, I'm surprised to hear this. I have imagine fans their being the laid-back So. California type that don't get all worked up about sports.

Those comments are pretty bad! Where is security at that park. I know **** goes on at the Cell too and security can't be everywhere all the time, but at least it seems to me that Sox security is pretty responsive to fans that are starting trouble.

I think every team in every city will always draw a small class of aggressive sports thugs in the stands. I've witnessed many overserved fans over the years who can't draw the line so I'm not surprised that this happened at Dodger Stadium.

What I am surprised about is how poorly the Dodgers organization initially responded. The day after the incident, they basically tried to simply sweep the story under the rug as a non-event that basically cast a dark cloud over what was otherwise a beautiful opening day. Sort of like when the guy got shot outside of Wrigley a few years ago...

SI1020
04-07-2011, 09:28 AM
Yes, I'm probably the last guy that is cut out for street fighting. But if thugs come up to me and my buddy, I'm not taking off just because I can outrun my buddy. I'm not either and I'm 60 and short. I just don't want to criticize those guys, because I don't know all the details.

TheOldRoman
04-07-2011, 09:51 AM
Sort of like when the guy got shot outside of Wrigely a few years ago...Except that was completely and successfully swept under the rug. I know it was a story in Chicago for a day or two, but it didn't make national news to my knowledge, and if it did, it wasn't and idictment on the Cubs but just another example of "society going to hell in a handbasket." On that note, does this attack give a black eye to the entire Dodger fanbase and cause us to question them, or is that only when a moron does something like this at Sox games?

Dan H
04-07-2011, 09:54 AM
People need to gain perspective. It's a frickin' baseball game! It doesn't matter how passionate you are about your team or whether or not you can handle your game beer. If you want to fight, sign up for a tour of duty in Afghanistan or Iraq.

I agree and there is nothing funny about this. A baseball game is supposed to be fun. Wearing your favorite team colors shouldn't be like wearing gang colors. And this is why I don't want to go Cubs-Sox games. Even the mildest taunting can end up going too far.

We fans have to face up to one thing: the ball park can be a dangerous place to be. When I take my teenage daughter to a game, I don't let her out of my sight. She is so into having fun at the park that she isn't aware of the dangers. I couldn't live up myself if something happened to her on my watch.

Hendu
05-22-2011, 11:44 AM
One of the suspects in the beating is in custody.

Link (http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/mlb/news/story?id=6575516)

LongLiveFisk
05-22-2011, 11:52 AM
One of the suspects in the beating is in custody.

Link (http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/mlb/news/story?id=6575516)

Good. I hope he gets everything possible coming to him. This incident was beyond disgusting.

miker
05-22-2011, 04:32 PM
When I take my teenage daughter to a game, I don't let her out of my sight. She is so into having fun at the park that she isn't aware of the dangers. I couldn't live up myself if something happened to her on my watch.

I have to give you credit -- the way things are today, if I had a teenage daughter, I don't know if I would even let her out of the house.

Had some Dodger fans nearby on Saturday, but fortunately, everyone around had enough class not to bring up this travesty.

PalehosePlanet
05-22-2011, 06:30 PM
Dodgers are hiring a former police chief as head of security. They haven't had one in months:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/breaking/la-sp-0407-dodgers-security-20110407,0,1319948.story?track=rss



Some of the comments at the bottom of the article are an eye opener to problems at Dodger Stadium. Never having been there myself, I'm surprised to hear this. I have imagine fans their being the laid-back So. California type that don't get all worked up about sports.

Those comments are pretty bad! Where is security at that park. I know **** goes on at the Cell too and security can't be everywhere all the time, but at least it seems to me that Sox security is pretty responsive to fans that are starting trouble.

I have family in LA and have been to countless Dodgers games over the last 30 years or so and have never experienced anything like the comments in the article. We always had a good time and never even witnessed an argument, much less a fight.

Now, to be fair, I've never worn the opposing teams hat/jersey to the games, nor have we ever sat in the cheap seats, but it's still a bit surprising to read others bad experiences and that security in the cheap seats seems so lax.

As far as the violator being caught: I hope he's tried for attempted murder. Same goes for his buddies, if they're ever caught.

Boondock Saint
05-22-2011, 06:55 PM
I have family in LA and have been to countless Dodgers games over the last 30 years or so and have never experienced anything like the comments in the article. We always had a good time and never even witnessed an argument, much less a fight.

Now, to be fair, I've never worn the opposing teams hat/jersey to the games, nor have we ever sat in the cheap seats, but it's still a bit surprising to read others bad experiences and that security in the cheap seats seems so lax.

As far as the violator being caught: I hope he's tried for attempted murder. Same goes for his buddies, if they're ever caught.

I hope they catch the right guys and that they rot for a long time, but what they did wasn't attempted murder. I know it's semantics, but there's a big difference between aggravated assault and attempted murder.

Hendu
05-22-2011, 08:14 PM
I hope they catch the right guys and that they rot for a long time, but what they did wasn't attempted murder. I know it's semantics, but there's a big difference between aggravated assault and attempted murder.

If they continued beating him after he was unconscious (which appears to be the case), that could trigger an attempted murder charge.

g0g0
05-23-2011, 07:37 AM
Great to hear one is captured. Hopefully he'll give up the others. :bandance:

ComiskeyBrewer
05-23-2011, 09:00 AM
I hope they catch the right guys and that they rot for a long time, but what they did wasn't attempted murder. I know it's semantics, but there's a big difference between aggravated assault and attempted murder.

As long as they are in a Cell with a big, lonely man named Jim for many a year, I don't care what they charge them with. :angry:

Red Barchetta
05-23-2011, 11:15 AM
As long as they are in a Cell with a big, lonely man named Jim for many a year, I don't care what they charge them with. :angry:

...a big lonely man named Jim (weaing a Giants cap) for many a year. :cool:

SephClone89
05-23-2011, 11:16 AM
As long as they are in a Cell with a big, lonely man named Jim for many a year, I don't care what they charge them with. :angry:

I'd prefer if they didn't put him in the Cell.

downstairs
05-23-2011, 11:36 AM
I hope they catch the right guys and that they rot for a long time, but what they did wasn't attempted murder. I know it's semantics, but there's a big difference between aggravated assault and attempted murder.

Exactly. And I hope they charge him for the worst thing that will actually stick. I mean, if you "throw the book" at someone and go overboard, you risk losing the case. If I were on the jury I'd absolutely vote against him attempting to murder the guy... because he didn't.

Its aggravated assault... no more no less. That's still some pretty serious ****.

Taliesinrk
05-23-2011, 11:40 AM
I'd prefer if they didn't put him in the Cell.

I couldn't agree more. I read in the Tribune that there are too many criminals there already.

Hendu
05-23-2011, 07:08 PM
Exactly. And I hope they charge him for the worst thing that will actually stick. I mean, if you "throw the book" at someone and go overboard, you risk losing the case. If I were on the jury I'd absolutely vote against him attempting to murder the guy... because he didn't.

Its aggravated assault... no more no less. That's still some pretty serious ****.

The first hit was aggravated assault. But when he's on the ground unconscious and they're still kicking and hitting him, that's attempted murder. The same thing happened with those two girls in Bucktown that got attacked by a guy with a baseball bat...because he continued hitting them while they were down, it became attempted murder. Doesn't matter whether or not he was actually trying to kill them.

JermaineDye05
05-24-2011, 08:45 PM
Now the family is filing suit against the Dodgers. They claim that poor lighting and security cutbacks contributed to the assault.

Link (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-giantsfanattacked)

miker
05-25-2011, 11:44 AM
Now the family is filing suit against the Dodgers. They claim that poor lighting and security cutbacks contributed to the assault.

Link (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-giantsfanattacked)

Get in line...aren't the Dodgers broke?

#1swisher
05-25-2011, 12:13 PM
Lincecum, Bonds and other members of the Giants, make a donation to the Stow Family Fund.

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Barry-Bonds-to-Pay-For-Stow-Kids-College-122539899.html

soxfanatlanta
05-25-2011, 12:30 PM
Lincecum, Bonds and other members of the Giants, make a donation to the Stow Family Fund.

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Barry-Bonds-to-Pay-For-Stow-Kids-College-122539899.html

What a classy thing to do.

StillMissOzzie
05-26-2011, 12:17 AM
Lincecum, Bonds and other members of the Giants, make a donation to the Stow Family Fund.

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Barry-Bonds-to-Pay-For-Stow-Kids-College-122539899.html

As quick as I am to dump on everything Barry Bonds, this was a great, great gesture by him.

SMO
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