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thomas35forever
03-09-2011, 06:49 PM
What are some defensive plays that really stand out in your mind in the history of the team? Here's what I think:

-Obviously, Uribe's dive into the stands in Houston followed by the series-clinching assist

-BA's catch in the Blackout Game

-Buehrle's Opening Day flip

-Wise's catch to save Buehrle's perfecto

-Iguchi's angled throw

-Maybe this one shows a little bias on my part since I was at this game, but TCQ's catch against the Angels last year was pretty amazing.

JermaineDye05
03-09-2011, 06:53 PM
Crede's juggling catch on the tarp was pretty awesome.

MtGrnwdSoxFan
03-09-2011, 06:56 PM
What are some defensive plays that really stand out in your mind in the history of the team? Here's what I think:

-Obviously, Uribe's dive into the stands in Houston followed by the series-clinching assist

-BA's catch in the Blackout Game

-Buehrle's Opening Day flip

-Wise's catch to save Buehrle's perfecto

-Iguchi's angled throw

-Maybe this one shows a little bias on my part since I was at this game, but TCQ's catch against the Angels last year was pretty amazing.

BA's dive wasn't all that impressive in hindsight...it was just because of the circumstances that made it bigger than it was. It was a good play, to be sure, but historic? Nah.

Also, you gotta remember when you put in the Buehrle flip, you gotta include the fact that Konerko caught it barehanded.

Iguchi's play was literally gravity-defying. That play made my jaw drop...I'd say that was the best defensive play I've ever seen, followed VERY closely by Buehrle's flip to Konerko.

ElevenUp
03-09-2011, 07:01 PM
Great list. I would add Alexei's backhanded flip to first when he was still at second base and Carlton Fisk's double tag out at home.

JermaineDye05
03-09-2011, 07:05 PM
People didn't really like Orlando Cabrera when he was here, but this bare-handed play (http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=3403176) was INSANE.

pythons007
03-09-2011, 07:05 PM
Uribe's dive into the stands in the World Series. You never see it in highlight reels and IMO is a lot better then Jeter's.

Didn't Rowand run face first into a fence or was that with the Phillies?

thomas35forever
03-09-2011, 07:06 PM
Didn't Rowand run face first into a fence or was that with the Phillies?
I'll give you a hint. Comiskey has a lot more padding in centerfield.

chisoxfanatic
03-09-2011, 07:15 PM
It might not be a "web gem," but I remember a game where Lyle Mouton crashed through the Comiskey Park bullpen door when he was running back to make a catch.

Madvora
03-09-2011, 07:44 PM
The first thing I thought of was Iguchi's play from a couple year's ago.
I'll bet Ventura could fill up a list, but I can't think of anything specific.

doublem23
03-09-2011, 07:45 PM
Ray Durham's over-the-back catch at the home opener in 2000. Still might be the best catch I've ever seen.

Bobby Thigpen
03-09-2011, 07:53 PM
Didn't Calderon climb on top of the wall and stand on the top in the old park to take away a HR?

Daver
03-09-2011, 08:01 PM
Maybe not defensive, but Blackjacks balk fake to first, third, and throw to first with runners on the corners provided a few outs, while he defied the umps to call him on it.

SoxThunder
03-09-2011, 08:07 PM
BA's dive wasn't all that impressive in hindsight...it was just because of the circumstances that made it bigger than it was. It was a good play, to be sure, but historic? Nah.

Also, you gotta remember when you put in the Buehrle flip, you gotta include the fact that Konerko caught it barehanded.

Iguchi's play was literally gravity-defying. That play made my jaw drop...I'd say that was the best defensive play I've ever seen, followed VERY closely by Buehrle's flip to Konerko.

Here's a link to the Iguchi play:

http://whitesoxpride.mlblogs.com/archives/2006/04/sox_win.html

Click "See it again to believe it" and choose Real Player.

SoxThunder
03-09-2011, 08:12 PM
What are some defensive plays that really stand out in your mind in the history of the team? Here's what I think:

-Obviously, Uribe's dive into the stands in Houston followed by the series-clinching assist

-BA's catch in the Blackout Game

-Buehrle's Opening Day flip

-Wise's catch to save Buehrle's perfecto

-Iguchi's angled throw

-Maybe this one shows a little bias on my part since I was at this game, but TCQ's catch against the Angels last year was pretty amazing.

Another sweet Blackout Game play was when Griffey threw out Cuddyer at the plate and A.J. hung onto the ball.

Brian26
03-09-2011, 08:24 PM
Didn't Calderon climb on top of the wall and stand on the top in the old park to take away a HR?

In Detroit.

fisk4ever
03-09-2011, 08:47 PM
Carlton Fisk tagging out 2 Yankee runners on the same play in 1985.
Maybe you're not counting this as a web gem, but I am.

Irishsox1
03-09-2011, 09:11 PM
Does Greg Norton fielding a ground ball cleanly count as a web gem?

MtGrnwdSoxFan
03-09-2011, 09:12 PM
Does Greg Norton fielding a ground ball cleanly count as a web gem?

No, it's the Seventh Sign of the Apocalypse.

Bobby Thigpen
03-09-2011, 09:21 PM
In Detroit.
Thanks. Didn't remember a lot about it other than it happened.

sox1970
03-09-2011, 10:01 PM
Ray Durham's over-the-back catch at the home opener in 2000. Still might be the best catch I've ever seen.

I was there, and I have no idea why we never see a replay of that. Incredible.

TomBradley72
03-09-2011, 10:35 PM
Ken Berry flying over the CF field fence at old Comiskey.

Zisk77
03-09-2011, 11:04 PM
How about Alexei in short centerfield making a diving stab of a Benji molina one hop liner and throwing him out at first in SF.

Or Pablo Ozuna throwing Sean Casey out a first from left field. 5-7-3 if your scoring at home...or even if you are alone.:redface:

Lance Johnson robbing a hr in baltimore.

Ozzie challenging Deio Sanders to tag up on a fly to ss and throwing the dumb**** out at the plate when he actually took the bait.:)

Lamp81
03-09-2011, 11:28 PM
Rodney McCray, who made that famous running catch and then going right through the outfield wall as a White Sox minor league player (I'm thinking Vancouver about 1990).

PaleHoser
03-10-2011, 12:22 AM
Daryl Boston running full speed and laying out 2-3 rows into the seats down the left field foul line to catch a foul ball in Comiskey Park about 1986.

Lamp81
03-10-2011, 12:58 AM
I do remember Rudy Law laying out for quite a few catches in the early 80s. I don't remember if he was a good fielder or not though. Maybe he was mis-reading the balls and had to use his speed, a la Podsednik. Law did have a below average arm though.

Vernam
03-10-2011, 07:14 AM
Ken Berry flying over the CF field fence at old Comiskey.
+1

I actually have that on my DVR, because it was in some old MLB highlight film of the 1969 (?) season. Also included Bill Voss knocking himself out running into the left field wall against Boston, at probably the second game I ever attended.

It was a real thrill to see that Berry catch again after all those years, because in my memory it was the greatest I'd seen. The clip does nothing to change that. He ran full-speed toward the fence in left-center to rob a home run -- this was when they had shortened the dimensions by putting a chain link fence out there. I'd guess it was 5 to 6 feet high, because Berry literally did a Fosbury Flop and caught the ball as some relievers in the bullpen belatedly scrambled to catch him. They didn't get there in time, and it's hard to blame them, because no one could've expected what he did. It was totally reckless and compelling. He literally could've broken his neck when he landed.

Assuming that's the same catch you meant, TB. :wink: He had others where he scissored the fence, but that was the only flop I saw.

Vernam

Madvora
03-10-2011, 08:17 AM
Maybe not defensive, but Blackjacks balk fake to first, third, and throw to first with runners on the corners provided a few outs, while he defied the umps to call him on it.
He attempted that in an All-Star game once.

SI1020
03-10-2011, 09:50 AM
Iguchi's play was literally gravity-defying. That play made my jaw drop...I'd say that was the best defensive play I've ever seen, followed VERY closely by Buehrle's flip to Konerko. I definitely agree.

Chez
03-10-2011, 09:53 AM
Brian Anderson's catch in The Blackout Game maybe wasn't the greatest pure defensive play, but given the circumstances, I think it's one of the most dramatic plays in Sox history and I was irked when it was removed from the pre-game video.

I was fortunate to be able to witness the Anderson dive, the Iguchi play, the Durham catch and the Buehrle flip -- all amazing. Other than BA's catch, my two favorite Sox web gems were the Calderon catch in Detroit (was watching the game on TV when it happened) and an incredibly acrobatic double play that Ozzie and Julio Cruz turned on a cold, drizzly mid-week afternoon game in 1984 or '85 -- I'll have to dig up my scorecard for the details.

spawn
03-10-2011, 10:18 AM
Iguchi's play was literally gravity-defying. That play made my jaw drop...I'd say that was the best defensive play I've ever seen, followed VERY closely by Buehrle's flip to Konerko.
This is my choice as well, followed closely by Alexei's glove flip.

Lip Man 1
03-10-2011, 12:25 PM
One of the greatest catches in World Series history. Jim Rivera looking into that murderous sun and the white shirts of the Coliseum to make an out of nowhere, over the shoulder catch of a drive to save #5 and a 1-0 Sox win over Sandy Koufax.

Another happened in 1960 when Whitey Herzog of the A's hit a pop into left field Minoso couldn't see it because of the sun. Aparicio literally ran all the way into deep left field and made an over the shoulder catch. Incredible.

Lip

kufram
03-10-2011, 01:23 PM
Even after all of those great plays mentioned up to now. Dewayne Wise deserves another mention. It was one perfect catch that needed every step to be perfect to even have a chance at it.

BA's blackout catch? Not so much, the dive was contrived. It was a goog catch that a major league centerfielder should make.

Jim Shorts
03-10-2011, 01:32 PM
Ozzie challenging Deio Sanders to tag up on a fly to ss and throwing the dumb**** out at the plate when he actually took the bait.:)


I'd love to see that again. I'm on the way to YouTube to try and find it.

Jerko
03-10-2011, 05:00 PM
Didn't Calderon climb on top of the wall and stand on the top in the old park to take away a HR?


IIRC Mike Cameron made a catch like that at home.

I second the Durham play mentioned above, but they are all good.

samurai_sox
03-10-2011, 05:05 PM
Even after all of those great plays mentioned up to now. Dewayne Wise deserves another mention. It was one perfect catch that needed every step to be perfect to even have a chance at it.

BA's blackout catch? Not so much, the dive was contrived. It was a goog catch that a major league centerfielder should make.

I'll give Wise another one, the running catch he made in center field in Detroit when he seperated his shoulder.

StillMissOzzie
03-11-2011, 12:27 AM
It might not be a "web gem," but I remember a game where Lyle Mouton crashed through the Comiskey Park bullpen door when he was running back to make a catch.

I think my dad (also named Lyle, btw) and I were there for that game. IIRC, he saved a first inning grand slam from putting the Sox in a big hole in a hurry.

Here's a play I remember that I haven't seen mentioned yet - Lance Johnson's running, diving catch to preserve Wilson Alvarez' no-hitter in Baltimore.

Another one that I recall, but not sufficiently on the details: Sox vs Yankees at old Comiskey, a game that the Sox would ultimately win in extra innings. Man on first, Dave Winfield batting. He hit a hot smash to 2b, who dove and flipped it directly from their glove hand to the SS, who caught that flip bare-handed as they came across 2nd base, throwing to first to complete the DP. If anyone else remember this game (late 70's or early 80's), please post the details.

SMO
:gulp:

LongLiveFisk
03-11-2011, 12:29 AM
Great list. I would add Alexei's backhanded flip to first when he was still at second base and Carlton Fisk's double tag out at home.

This was my favorite until Buehrle's opening day gem last year. Now I'm not so sure...:scratch:

TDog
03-11-2011, 01:45 PM
Ken Berry flying over the CF field fence at old Comiskey.

I am surprised this didn't get mentioned earlier in the thread. I've seen films of that play. Berry didn't just rob someone of a home run. He hurdled the centerfiled fence and caught the ball before landing on the other side.

Many catches at the wall really aren't that special. Players go back as far as they can go and have a moment or two at the wall before leaping as high as they can. The Wise catch in the Buehrle perfect game was a great catch, better than most catches at the wall because it was a running catch, and amplified by the stakes. Uribe going into the stands was an excellent, tenacious play amplified by the stakes (and to me was part of Uribe taking control of the end of a championship title game the way I have never seen any other position player do.

The Berry catch, like the Buehrle flip, the Iguchi throw and even the Wise catch have the "I don't believe what I just saw" thing going on. But they didn't have web gems when Berry made the catch. And most people who post here weren't even born yet.

TheVulture
03-11-2011, 05:17 PM
Berry didn't just rob someone of a home run. He hurdled the centerfiled fence and caught the ball before landing on the other side.


Would that be an out? I'd think if the fielder went over the wall landing out of play it would be a home run.

eriqjaffe
03-11-2011, 05:32 PM
Would that be an out? I'd think if the fielder went over the wall landing out of play it would be a home run.Nope. As long as the fielder catches the ball, it doesn't matter if he lands in play or not.

TDog
03-11-2011, 08:03 PM
Would that be an out? I'd think if the fielder went over the wall landing out of play it would be a home run.

He has to catch the ball before landing out of play. Once he hits the ground out of play, he is no longer eligible to make a legal catch. If he leaves the field of play after making the catch and there are runners on base with less than two outs, each runner advances one base.

SOXSINCE'70
03-11-2011, 09:43 PM
Didn't Rowand run face first into a fence or was that with the Phillies?

That was with the Phillies in 2006. On the mound,the Phils had a young starter struggling with his control.He had just loaded the bases.Rowand's catch ended the inning,IIRC.

Here's a photo of that "young starter".

:Floyd:

Lip Man 1
03-11-2011, 09:52 PM
I think the Sox player who crashed through a fence was Rodney McCray. He was a minor leaguer and the play I think happened in Vancouver when he powered through a plywood panel in the outfield.

The panel swung upwards as I recall which implied that it was attached only on one end.

Don't remember if he caught the ball or not.

Edit: Yep he's the guy:

After finally making the majors with the White Sox in 1990, McCray was sent back down to the AAA Vancouver Canadians (http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/wiki/Vancouver_Canadians) of the Pacific Coast League (http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/wiki/Pacific_Coast_League) the following year. On May 27, 1991, at Civic Stadium (now PGE Park (http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/wiki/PGE_Park)) in Portland, Oregon (http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/wiki/Portland,_Oregon), McCray chased after a fly ball hit by Portland's Chip Hale (http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/wiki/Chip_Hale); unable to make the catch, he ran right through a plywood fence in right field, just to the right of the 369-foot marker.

The incident was somewhat like a real-life version of a serio-comic incident in The Natural (http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/wiki/The_Natural), in which outfielder "Bump Bailey" of the "New York Knights" crashes through a wall. McCray was not seriously hurt (in contrast to the fictional Bailey, who died from his injuries), but became an instant celebrity as the play was shown repeatedly on newscasts across the country; a video clip of the play is now part of a blooper reel looped at the Baseball Hall of Fame (http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/wiki/Baseball_Hall_of_Fame).

McCray made it back up to the White Sox later that year, but was used almost exclusively as a pinch runner (http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/wiki/Pinch_runner) and backup outfielder.

http://fragg.me/video/rodney-mccray-baseball-wall

Lip

WhiteSox5187
03-11-2011, 10:36 PM
That was with the Phillies in 2006. On the mound,the Phils had a young starter struggling with his control.He had just loaded the bases.Rowand's catch ended the inning,IIRC.

Here's a photo of that "young starter".

:Floyd:

Floyd had a no hitter going at that point.

TDog
03-11-2011, 11:26 PM
That was with the Phillies in 2006. On the mound,the Phils had a young starter struggling with his control.He had just loaded the bases.Rowand's catch ended the inning,IIRC.

Here's a photo of that "young starter".

:Floyd:


And young Gavin Floyd went on to finish the game that night to record his first career complete-game shutout.

The game was shortened by rain and only lasted five innings, but Floyd pitched all five innings and didn't give up any runs.

RadioheadRocks
03-12-2011, 03:21 AM
I think the Sox player who crashed through a fence was Rodney McCray. He was a minor leaguer and the play I think happened in Vancouver when he powered through a plywood panel in the outfield.

The panel swung upwards as I recall which implied that it was attached only on one end.

Don't remember if he caught the ball or not.

Edit: Yep he's the guy:

After finally making the majors with the White Sox in 1990, McCray was sent back down to the AAA Vancouver Canadians (http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/wiki/Vancouver_Canadians) of the Pacific Coast League (http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/wiki/Pacific_Coast_League) the following year. On May 27, 1991, at Civic Stadium (now PGE Park (http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/wiki/PGE_Park)) in Portland, Oregon (http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/wiki/Portland,_Oregon), McCray chased after a fly ball hit by Portland's Chip Hale (http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/wiki/Chip_Hale); unable to make the catch, he ran right through a plywood fence in right field, just to the right of the 369-foot marker.

The incident was somewhat like a real-life version of a serio-comic incident in The Natural (http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/wiki/The_Natural), in which outfielder "Bump Bailey" of the "New York Knights" crashes through a wall. McCray was not seriously hurt (in contrast to the fictional Bailey, who died from his injuries), but became an instant celebrity as the play was shown repeatedly on newscasts across the country; a video clip of the play is now part of a blooper reel looped at the Baseball Hall of Fame (http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/wiki/Baseball_Hall_of_Fame).

McCray made it back up to the White Sox later that year, but was used almost exclusively as a pinch runner (http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/wiki/Pinch_runner) and backup outfielder.

http://fragg.me/video/rodney-mccray-baseball-wall

Lip


This also inspired one of the coolest SGA bobbleheads ever... the Rodney McCray Bobblefence:

http://media.oregonlive.com/pbeavers_impact/photo/mccraybobblejpg-b8d1c4b70d7da4f1_small.jpg

Got one of these off eBay several years ago :smile:

samurai_sox
03-20-2011, 05:18 PM
Do anyone remember that play Danks made (from 2008 or 2009?) against the Rays where he tagged out a runner taking off for home and dives headfirst for the tag?

That was a good one.

akingamongstmen
03-23-2011, 09:38 PM
The Wise catch to save Buerhle's perfect game still blows my mind. I think that the situation absolutely must be taken into account when discussing what the "best plays" are in Sox history. It doesn't get much bigger than saving a perfect game.

The Buerhle flip on Opening Day last year was awesome in that it probably won't ever happen again in a similar fashion as so many things had to go right for that to happen.