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Fenway
02-20-2011, 08:24 AM
Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe ranks all 30 managers - he has Ozzie in Top 10

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/articles/2011/02/20/a_judgment_call_when_it_comes_to_the_managers/?page=full

34 Inch Stick
02-21-2011, 03:49 PM
Gardenhire is in the middle of the pack? I'd put him near if not at the top of the league.

Fenway
02-21-2011, 04:08 PM
Gardenhire is in the middle of the pack? I'd put him near if not at the top of the league.

His playoff record is a factor in that.

PatK
02-21-2011, 05:05 PM
Hard to believe he had AL East managers 4 of the top 10

Fenway
02-21-2011, 05:34 PM
Hard to believe he had AL East managers 4 of the top 10

Maddon and Francona are worthy...Francona proved himself with the injuries last year and still won 89

Daver
02-21-2011, 07:09 PM
Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe ranks all 30 managers - he has Ozzie in Top 10

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/articles/2011/02/20/a_judgment_call_when_it_comes_to_the_managers/?page=full

Nick Carfardo is a fool.

cards press box
02-21-2011, 11:51 PM
Gardenhire is in the middle of the pack? I'd put him near if not at the top of the league.

I sure wouldn't. Gardenhire has been an almost mind boggling 6-21 in the post-season. That's a .222 winning percentage based upon a decent sample size.

Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe ranks all 30 managers - he has Ozzie in Top 10.

I have no serious complaints about the top ten with two exceptions: (i) Jim Leyland at #4 is too high in the top ten and (ii) Joe Girardi at #6 does not belong in the top ten at all. Girardi should get some credit for dealing with the New York circus but he is not a good in-game manager and, let's not forget, his team does have a $200+ million payroll. I'm also not sure that I would put Buck Showalter in the top ten but he does have a good record of reviving losing teams (the Yankees, the Rangers) and he should get some credit for that.

PatK
02-22-2011, 11:09 AM
Maddon and Francona are worthy...Francona proved himself with the injuries last year and still won 89

I don't mind those two up there at all. It's the other two I have an issue with

34 Inch Stick
02-22-2011, 11:18 AM
His playoff record is a factor in that.

I read that in his comments. I think his regular season record speaks for itself.

How many times, if any, did a Gardenhire team go into a playoff series as the favorite to win. I ask that because it's rare that I say to myself, "the manager was the difference in that series."

doublem23
02-22-2011, 11:54 AM
Maddon and Francona are worthy...Francona proved himself with the injuries last year and still won 89

Gimme a ****in break, he's also got the 2nd most expensive collection of talent in the league, I could manage the Red Sox to 90-win seasons every year with a blindfold and a dart board.