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Fenway
02-03-2011, 12:48 PM
NYY may have a great bullpen....but starters - not exactly

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/02/03/pettitte-has-decided-to-retire/

thomas35forever
02-03-2011, 01:16 PM
Now the question is will the Hall come calling? I think people have forgotten that he was named in the Mitchell Report.

delben91
02-03-2011, 01:22 PM
Makes Garcia's signing with NYY even a better deal for Freddy now, he's all but assured a spot in that rotation.

DirtySox
02-03-2011, 01:27 PM
The Yanks are in trouble with that back-end of the rotation. I bet they are considering a trade for Blanton.

Fenway
02-03-2011, 01:32 PM
The Yanks are in trouble with that back-end of the rotation. I bet they are considering a trade for Blanton.

IMHO, the Yankees almost HAVE to pull a trade.

Sabathia is good. The equal of Lester, and just as reliable.
Burnett is erratic. I might compare him to Beckett (or is that too facile?).

Hughes has some troublesome peripherals. I'll be kind and compare him to Buchholz.

That's a whole lot of questions, even among the front three. At least the Red Sox can count to five without the questions getting any scarier than that.

DirtySox
02-03-2011, 01:35 PM
IMHO, the Yankees almost HAVE to pull a trade.

Sabathia is good. The equal of Lester, and just as reliable.
Burnett is erratic. I might compare him to Beckett (or is that too facile?).

Hughes has some troublesome peripherals. I'll be kind and compare him to Buchholz.

That's a whole lot of questions, even among the front three. At least the Red Sox can count to five without the questions getting any scarier than that.

Agreed that they need to make a trade. I'm pretty confident in Hughes putting up similar numbers or better next year though.

When does the Zambrano speculation start up again?

JermaineDye05
02-03-2011, 01:37 PM
Pettitte told people early this winter hed pitch if yanks got lee but wouldn't if lee went else. Lee rejection a double whammy? less than a minute ago (http://twitter.com/SI_JonHeyman/status/33232261738405888) via Mobile Web (http://mobile.twitter.com/) Retweeted by 4 people
http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/190827556/jon_heyman_bigger.jpg (http://twitter.com/SI_JonHeyman)
SI_JonHeyman (http://twitter.com/SI_JonHeyman)
Jon Heyman

Ouch

DirtySox
02-03-2011, 01:39 PM
I wonder if Kenny is dangling a starter looking for an overpay? I know it doesn't make much sense, but speculation is fun. I also really like many of the Yankees trade chips. Banuelos and Montero in particular.

downstairs
02-03-2011, 02:17 PM
Now the question is will the Hall come calling? I think people have forgotten that he was named in the Mitchell Report.

Yeah, but he handled the whole thing as respectfully as possible. Came right out and said he did it to heal from injury, and it was completely wrong of him. He did what every one of these dudes should have done, but didn't have the balls to.

I don't think it keeps him out of the hall. First ballot? Probably not. But I can see him in there. *Especially* since its become the "hall of pretty good" lately.

Nellie_Fox
02-03-2011, 02:37 PM
*Especially* since its become the "hall of pretty good" lately.I'm so sick of this "clever" phrase.

It's the Hall of FAME, not the Hall of Statistics.

Lip Man 1
02-03-2011, 02:43 PM
It's about damn time...oh wait, he may change his mind again.

:rolleyes:

Lip

DumpJerry
02-03-2011, 03:41 PM
It's about damn time...oh wait, he may change his mind again.

:rolleyes:

Lip
http://static.technorati.com/10/10/08/19649/brett-favre-2.jpg
Mr. Lip, only a fool would do that. Oh wait.......

tstrike2000
02-03-2011, 04:17 PM
http://static.technorati.com/10/10/08/19649/brett-favre-2.jpg
Mr. Lip, only a fool would do that. Oh wait.......

True, Pettitte could still change his mind and Favre may still text his intentions to someone.

ewokpelts
02-03-2011, 05:20 PM
cubs are stupid to NOT try and offer zambozo to the yanks now.

also, why would the white sox want to help the yankees? they need a starter last i checked.

beasly213
02-03-2011, 05:21 PM
Yeah, but he handled the whole thing as respectfully as possible. Came right out and said he did it to heal from injury, and it was completely wrong of him. He did what every one of these dudes should have done, but didn't have the balls to.

I don't think it keeps him out of the hall. First ballot? Probably not. But I can see him in there. *Especially* since its become the "hall of pretty good" lately.


He handeled it smart...not respectfully. He still cheated and I'm sure that wasn't the only time he did.

Foulke You
02-03-2011, 05:25 PM
He handeled it smart...not respectfully. He still cheated and I'm sure that wasn't the only time he did.
Exactly. People like to give Giambi a free pass too because he also handled it smart. Both guys were cheaters. Just because Pettitte has better PR sense than McGwire or Bonds doesn't mean they shouldn't be thought of in the same manner.

downstairs
02-03-2011, 05:35 PM
I'm so sick of this "clever" phrase.

It's the Hall of FAME, not the Hall of Statistics.

Oh, I'm with you. But my point is even with the criteria (which we probably both agree on) I still think far too many people are let in. I don't care about stats as much when it comes to the HOF. I hate the "300 win" or "500 home run" measuring sticks.

Still... when I think of the all-time greats... I don't think of Jim Rice, Bert Blyleven, and a bunch of others. Regardless of stats, I still think of them as "pretty good".

cards press box
02-03-2011, 11:29 PM
The Yanks are in trouble with that back-end of the rotation. I bet they are considering a trade for Blanton.

The Phils would appear to be in the proverbial cat bird's seat in such a deal. They could move Blanton and his salary and likely replenish some of the talent in the minor league that they dealt in the past two years in the Halladay and Oswalt deals.

I wonder if Kenny is dangling a starter looking for an overpay? I know it doesn't make much sense, but speculation is fun. I also really like many of the Yankees trade chips. Banuelos and Montero in particular.

KW is always looking for an opportunity. And, yes, the Yankees do have some intriguing trade chips, including several catchers. They won't deal Jesus Montero but might deal Austin Romine. And who knows, they might move Brett Gardner or even Curtis Granderson in the right deal.

If KW would deal any starter to New York, I suspect it would be Edwin Jackson.

doublem23
02-04-2011, 09:10 AM
It's about damn time...oh wait, he may change his mind again.

:rolleyes:

Lip

25-11, 3.81 ERA, 323 IP the last two seasons.

Yeah, he really overstayed his welcome.

ewokpelts
02-04-2011, 09:18 AM
one thing that sticks with me is how much a pain ion the ass his wife seems to be. she DEMANDED he either sign with houston or retire, and his eventual signing with houston prompted the whole crazy roger clemens retire/unretire thing.

oh, and the yankees were offering MORE money than what pettite got with houston.

Fenway
02-04-2011, 03:22 PM
:whiner::whiner: :tongue:

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs042.snc6/167224_1770083164584_1014362077_32014533_5551200_n .jpg

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs799.ash1/168915_1770082964579_1014362077_32014532_8143420_n .jpg

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2011/02/04/2011-02-04_andy_pettittes_retirement_means_yankees_need_aj _burnett_prospects_and_acquisitio.html

and guess who is now talking to Daddy

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_DJK8YXnqpLY/SvLoI92j3NI/AAAAAAAAAeM/onXxdlFOchE/s320/Post-Pedro-Baby.jpg

Lip Man 1
02-04-2011, 07:10 PM
Double:

How he performed on the field (and remember he pitched for the Yankees not say the Royals) has NOTHING to do with my statement.

He's talked about retirement before going back even to the days when he changed his mind and joined the Astros.

The Brett Farve reference that was posted earlier was spot on. Play or retire period. And if you are thinking about retiring, keep it to yourself. Either show up and play or stop talking about it and retire...it's really not that hard to do...it gets old and smacks of prima donna -ism to me. That was my point.

Lip

soltrain21
02-04-2011, 07:42 PM
Double:

How he performed on the field (and remember he pitched for the Yankees not say the Royals) has NOTHING to do with my statement.

He's talked about retirement before going back even to the days when he changed his mind and joined the Astros.

The Brett Farve reference that was posted earlier was spot on. Play or retire period. And if you are thinking about retiring, keep it to yourself. Either show up and play or stop talking about it and retire...it's really not that hard to do...it gets old and smacks of prima donna -ism to me. That was my point.

Lip

How does that change his pretty awesome stats outside of the meaningless W/L record?

Oh, that's right. You hate stats.

Fenway
02-05-2011, 10:18 AM
Double:

How he performed on the field (and remember he pitched for the Yankees not say the Royals) has NOTHING to do with my statement.

He's talked about retirement before going back even to the days when he changed his mind and joined the Astros.

The Brett Farve reference that was posted earlier was spot on. Play or retire period. And if you are thinking about retiring, keep it to yourself. Either show up and play or stop talking about it and retire...it's really not that hard to do...it gets old and smacks of prima donna -ism to me. That was my point.

Lip

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CLUBHOUSE KID
02-06-2011, 05:02 PM
http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2011/02/05/gal_backpage_0205.jpg

IF Andy comes back, it will be in 2012.

Fenway
02-06-2011, 05:05 PM
IF Andy comes back, it will be in 2012.

He won't comeback this year until after the Clemens trial.