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LITTLE NELL
12-19-2010, 07:58 AM
Why aren't the 1920 White Sox on the list, they had four 20 game winners.
I know 2 of them were banned later in the year but that should have no bearing.
The 1967 Sox should have made the list also, they led the league with a .245 ERA and Horlen, Peters and John were the top 3 in ERA among starters.


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/524645-50-best-pitching-teams-in-mlb-history?utm_source=outbrain&utm_medium=referral

Bobby Thigpen
12-19-2010, 08:07 AM
Why aren't the 1920 White Sox on the list, they had four 20 game winners.
I know 2 of them were banned later in the year but that should have no bearing.
The 1967 Sox should have made the list also, they led the league with a .245 ERA and Horlen, Peters and John were the top 3 in ERA among starters.


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/524645-50-best-pitching-teams-in-mlb-history?utm_source=outbrain&utm_medium=referral
Better than that, how is the 05 staff not on here, but the 05 Astros are?

bnlfanmatt
12-19-2010, 09:04 AM
Better than that, how is the 05 staff not on here, but the 05 Astros are?

And there's this gem:

Clemens and Pettitte were the big names and World Series heroes on this club

If you're talking about other years, sure, but you can't really claim those two were World Series heroes of the '05 Astros when they got SWEPT OUT OF THE WORLD SERIES! :scratch:

Boondock Saint
12-19-2010, 09:12 AM
It's Bleacher Report. Any one of us could have written that article.

Zisk77
12-19-2010, 10:23 AM
Its ok mlb network has the 05 sox in their prime 9 for the greatest rotations of all-time. I think it was 4. I'd have to go back and see where exactly we landed.

WhiteSox5187
12-19-2010, 02:43 PM
Its ok mlb network has the 05 sox in their prime 9 for the greatest rotations of all-time. I think it was 4. I'd have to go back and see where exactly we landed.

I think it was too, I actually think it was ranked ahead of the '71 Orioles team that had four 20 game winners.

TDog
12-19-2010, 02:50 PM
Better than that, how is the 05 staff not on here, but the 05 Astros are?

Because winning games isn't that important anymore. Looking good is how you judge a great pitcher and great pitching staffs.

PaleHoser
12-19-2010, 04:19 PM
I think it was too, I actually think it was ranked ahead of the '71 Orioles team that had four 20 game winners.

'71 Orioles (http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl/player_search.cgi?search=1971+BAL) have to be ranked ahead of the '05 Sox. Not only did they have four 20 game winners, but their top three starters tied for the club lead in appearances with 38. That includes their bullpen, as their top two relievers only had 35 each. My, has the game changed.

'05 Astros belong because Brandon Backe > Sweaty Freddy.

gobears1987
12-19-2010, 04:34 PM
Can people stop making threads about bleacher report articles as they are nothing more than fan blogs.

Daver
12-19-2010, 08:30 PM
Can people stop making threads about bleacher report articles as they are nothing more than fan blogs.

Nobody is twisting your arm and forcing you to read the thread or click the link.

Can people stop complaining about threads because they don't like them?

g0g0
12-20-2010, 09:02 AM
'07 Cubs should have been higher, but overall a pretty good list. I was surprised at how many great pitching staffs the Indians had through the years!

Domeshot17
12-20-2010, 09:28 AM
Who cares, this writer carries as much merit as if any of us wrote it. Its just some schlubs opinion

TDog
12-20-2010, 12:34 PM
... I was surprised at how many great pitching staffs the Indians had through the years!

The 1964 Portland Beavers, the AAA affiliate of the Indians, had Sam McDowell, Luis Tiant and Tommy John in the starting rotation for a time. Before the draft was instituted, the Indians were very good at scouting and signing great pitching prospects, good enough that they believed they could trade Tommy John to the White Sox.

Foulke You
12-20-2010, 01:31 PM
'07 Cubs should have been higher, but overall a pretty good list.
The NL Central was pretty weak that year and the Cubs getting swept out in the 1st round probably didn't help their cause. When I think of "all time best" pitching rotations, the '07 Cubs don't really come to mind.

WhiteSox5187
12-20-2010, 02:56 PM
'07 Cubs should have been higher, but overall a pretty good list. I was surprised at how many great pitching staffs the Indians had through the years!

I don't think any rotation that had Rich Hill as their number three starter should be in the discussion.

hdog1017
12-20-2010, 03:02 PM
The 2004 Cub rotation was pretty good as well...no one hit a towel out of the ballpark.

Madscout
12-28-2010, 08:31 PM
Wow, a 3.61 cumulative ERA, 2.63 in the WS, and 4 complete game wins in the ALCS doesn't mean as much as it used to. Gosh, that site is ****ty.