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JermaineDye05
12-19-2010, 12:43 AM
Out of 10

1 being terrible

10 being perfect

MrT27
12-19-2010, 12:49 AM
8 for now but the offseason isn't over. i'll reserve my final judgement til opening day

DumpJerry
12-19-2010, 12:52 AM
Let's wait until March 31st to do this, ok?

asindc
12-19-2010, 01:01 AM
Let's wait until March 31st to do this, ok?

Why wait until the offseason is over?

soxnut1018
12-19-2010, 01:25 AM
So far this offseason gets an I.

gobears1987
12-19-2010, 02:39 AM
He gets an I because this thread is three months too early.

WhiteSox5187
12-19-2010, 04:47 AM
Christ, it's December and you want to give him a grade? I'm going to wait until the end of Spring Training and even then it's best to grade him at the end of the season. I thought he did a good job in '07 at the end of Spring Training.

Lip Man 1
12-19-2010, 10:49 AM
8.5, pending how things conclude.

Lip

whitem0nkey
12-19-2010, 11:04 AM
Let's wait until March 31st to do this, ok?

how about till november?

in sure the 05 off season had diff grades in march compared to november.

soxlady8
12-19-2010, 11:11 AM
TSTT --too soon to tell !!

I do like that we have Paulie back though :)

voodoochile
12-19-2010, 11:31 AM
To date? 11.

spawn
12-19-2010, 11:34 AM
-78. He didn't trade for Greinke. That makes it a terrible offseason.


On a serious note, I agree. It is too early to grade him.

russ99
12-19-2010, 11:44 AM
So far, Kenny gets an 8.5 with the chance for a higher grade depending on how he completes the pitching staff.

Jerry gets 10+ for opening up the wallet.

Frater Perdurabo
12-19-2010, 02:03 PM
I let my students skip the final exam if they are pleased with the number of points they have accumulated, since I drop the lowest test score.

If KW were to skip the final exam and decided to pack in for the semester today, he'd have earned 9/10.

Of course, it is still possible for him to earn more points. And theoretically, it's possible for him to make a stupid trade and lower his grade.

But if he stopped now, he'd have earned an A.

SouthSideLove
12-19-2010, 08:53 PM
I got berated for asking this question on Boers and Bernstein for all of the above reasons. For starters, it's too early. Secondly, we still have yet to see what Kenny will do in terms of the bullpen. Lastly, there is no indication that he is anywhere near done.

If history proves correct, Kenny may have an ace or two up his sleeve before pitchers and catchers report.

Domeshot17
12-19-2010, 09:07 PM
Right now I would give him a 6 or a 7 but just because the team isn't finished. If we went into the season today, we would have a hole in the rotation and no closer with our only 2 options being a solid set up man who battled injuries last year and a young rookie who really shouldn't be pissed away in the bullpen.

That said, he isn't going to have a final 25 man roster today, so he is on a good path.

Lip Man 1
12-19-2010, 09:10 PM
Dome:

I'd be willing to wager that Peavy will be back sooner than you think (May) and that Sale will turn into an outstanding closer.

That said, of course, Kenny needs one more arm for the bullpen, I'd prefer two but let's not be greedy.

Lip

Danryan
12-19-2010, 09:10 PM
7.75

Domeshot17
12-19-2010, 09:11 PM
Dome:

I'd be willing to wager that Peavy will be back sooner than you think (May) and that Sale will turn into an outstanding closer.

That said, of course, Kenny needs one more arm for the bullpen, I'd prefer two but let's not be greedy.

Lip

I have said it often, Sale as an outstanding closer is a poor waste of talent. Sale is probably the most talented pitcher on this roster. I am not saying he is the best for 2010, but in terms of talent and what he could be, outside Peavy, he is the only 1 with a shot to really be a number 1 dominant starter. You don't take that and make it a closer.

cards press box
12-19-2010, 10:41 PM
to date? 11.

+1

tstrike2000
12-19-2010, 11:39 PM
Good obviously so far, but too early to tell.

Dan H
12-20-2010, 09:00 AM
At this point, I'd give him a 9. He brought back a fan favorite and addressed a serious problem by signing a left handed bat. Obviously, the team still has issues. But now I have some real optimism for the next season. Many years I didn't feel that way and I had good reason not to feel that way.

VMSNS
12-20-2010, 11:55 AM
We still need a 5th starter, a closer, and a RF that can play adequate defense.

Up to this point, I'd rate Kenny an 8/10.

sox1970
12-20-2010, 12:08 PM
This offseason, Kenny is only as good as Reinsdorf is letting him be. Without the extra funds allowed this year, Kenny would not be looking good right now.

I judge a GM on two things---making the playoffs and the health of the minor league system. He's won two divisions in ten years, and the minor league system is not good.

I'm optimistic about 2011, probably more than any team under Kenny Williams. But I look at this coming year as the last stand for the Kenny/Ozzie combo unless they make the playoffs.

Lip Man 1
12-20-2010, 12:09 PM
VMS:

In my opinion they already have a 5th starter (Peavy- unless as the Sox get closer to spring training, that think will be out an extended period of time), and they already have a closer (either Sale or Thornton).

I can see them trying to get a 4th outfielder who can spell Q defensively late in games but I think the biggest need right now is at least one more reliable arm for the bullpen.

Lip

Dan H
12-20-2010, 12:37 PM
This offseason, Kenny is only as good as Reinsdorf is letting him be. Without the extra funds allowed this year, Kenny would not be looking good right now.

I judge a GM on two things---making the playoffs and the health of the minor league system. He's won two divisions in ten years, and the minor league system is not good.

I'm optimistic about 2011, probably more than any team under Kenny Williams. But I look at this coming year as the last stand for the Kenny/Ozzie combo unless they make the playoffs.

I agree with this. If the White Sox disappoint, some changes will have to be made. 2010 was not a good year for either Williams or Guillen, and not competing with Minnesota and Detroit won't cut it. This divison is winnable and anything short of that will just be old news. Things look good - for now. But at least this off season had some excitement to it.

palehozenychicty
12-31-2010, 07:16 PM
This offseason, Kenny is only as good as Reinsdorf is letting him be. Without the extra funds allowed this year, Kenny would not be looking good right now.

I judge a GM on two things---making the playoffs and the health of the minor league system. He's won two divisions in ten years, and the minor league system is not good.

I'm optimistic about 2011, probably more than any team under Kenny Williams. But I look at this coming year as the last stand for the Kenny/Ozzie combo unless they make the playoffs.

Too early to tell. But it definitely feels like this management's last stand. Go out with a bang! :cool:

StillMissOzzie
12-31-2010, 09:25 PM
Too early for a grade, but I thought that once they signed Dunn, Konerko was a goner and I sure nailed that prediction.
So far, I'd give KW a solid 7 and cross my fingers for a bit more bullpen help.

SMO
:gulp:

JermaineDye05
01-26-2011, 07:18 PM
Is it still too early for a rating?