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NLaloosh
12-18-2010, 12:45 AM
I'm thinking the Sox need 3 more players. Not huge additions just to create the right amount of depth.

1. They need a defensive outfielder. One that can truly play a solid CF and RF. He doesn't have to hit much. Andruw Jones would be nice again but he might be too costly. Randy Winn would be fine here. He doesn't hit much amymore but he is solid defensively, can still run, switch hits and should be cheap. There are other options, of course. Lillibridge isn't good enough here.

2. They need a decent 5th starter. Hopefully, one that can go to the pen if and when Peavy is back. I still like Freddy in this role. How much would he cost? Can the Sox get him on a 1 yr. deal for $ 3 mil.? If not, they need someone like him. The bullpen needs Sale now and he's the only starting insurance. They have to add a starter.

3. One more bullpen arm - lefty style. Will Ohman, Ron Mahay etc. Don't need him to pitch a lot of innings. Should be available for around a mil. Need another lefty in case Sale is pressed into service in the rotation and Thornton ends up the closer. From the right side Santos, Crain, Pena, Infante and Bruney or whomever are sufficient.

I think the Sox could fill these 3 spots for around $ 5 mil. total and it would be money well spent because that would prevent them from trading Quentin, Danks, Floyd, Jackson,Viciedo or Flowers. They need all of those players in the lineup now or for proper depth.

As long as Jerry has gone this far I hope he spends a little more to complete the team and give them a real shot to go all the way.

doublem23
12-18-2010, 12:50 AM
If we're looking for a defensive OF, is De Aza still on the roster (answer me, Lillian)? He won't hit for dick, but he's got some speed and can play a little defense.

guillen4life13
12-18-2010, 12:57 AM
I'm thinking the Sox need 3 more players. Not huge additions just to create the right amount of depth.

1. They need a defensive outfielder. One that can truly play a solid CF and RF. He doesn't have to hit much. Andruw Jones would be nice again but he might be too costly. Randy Winn would be fine here. He doesn't hit much amymore but he is solid defensively, can still run, switch hits and should be cheap. There are other options, of course. Lillibridge isn't good enough here.

Alejandro de Aza

2. They need a decent 5th starter. Hopefully, one that can go to the pen if and when Peavy is back. I still like Freddy in this role. How much would he cost? Can the Sox get him on a 1 yr. deal for $ 3 mil.? If not, they need someone like him. The bullpen needs Sale now and he's the only starting insurance. They have to add a starter.

Freddy Garcia should work here, and I think he would consider taking that type of money.

3. One more bullpen arm - lefty style. Will Ohman, Ron Mahay etc. Don't need him to pitch a lot of innings. Should be available for around a mil. Need another lefty in case Sale is pressed into service in the rotation and Thornton ends up the closer. From the right side Santos, Crain, Pena, Infante and Bruney or whomever are sufficient.

I say try to get JC Romero or Randy Choate. Both are in their mid 30's and may not command much money but still get the job done as lefty specialists.

DrCrawdad
12-18-2010, 01:43 AM
If we're looking for a defensive OF, is De Aza still on the roster (answer me, Lillian)? He won't hit for dick, but he's got some speed and can play a little defense.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_RHy1W65wc0U/SNDG12M8IzI/AAAAAAAADG8/kXs2huFTKas/s320/white-sox-dick-allen-2.jpg
Damn straight!

:)

doublem23
12-18-2010, 01:55 AM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_RHy1W65wc0U/SNDG12M8IzI/AAAAAAAADG8/kXs2huFTKas/s320/white-sox-dick-allen-2.jpg
Damn straight!

:)

:tiphat:

Lillian
12-18-2010, 07:43 AM
If we're looking for a defensive OF, is De Aza still on the roster (answer me, Lillian)? He won't hit for dick, but he's got some speed and can play a little defense.

Yes, he's on the 40 man roster. But why are you so sure that he wouldn't hit? Look up his stats for the last two years at AAA. He has arguably been the best minor league player, over that span, currently in the organization.
Over the last two years, during which he played just half of each of those seasons, he produced the following in 585 at bats:
Avg. 301
OBP .367
Doubles 42
Triples 9
HR 13
RBI 83

He was even better than that versus RHP. He's good enough defensively to play any outfield position, and he can steal a base.
Wouldn't you think that those are acceptable credentials to qualify him as a 4th outfielder?
I think his biggest issue is being able to stay healthy.

cws05champ
12-18-2010, 09:08 AM
Yes, he's on the 40 man roster. But why are you so sure that he wouldn't hit? Look up his stats for the last two years at AAA. He has arguably been the best minor league player, over that span, currently in the organization.
Over the last two years, during which he played just half of each of those seasons, he produced the following in 585 at bats:
Avg. 301
OBP .367
Doubles 42
Triples 9
HR 13
RBI 83

He was even better than that versus RHP. He's good enough defensively to play any outfield position, and he can steal a base.
Wouldn't you think that those are acceptable credentials to qualify him as a 4th outfielder?
I think his biggest issue is being able to stay healthy.
I think it qualifies him to get a shot to start as the 4th OF. The main thing we need from that position is defense and speed, which he has. So I wouldn't be concerned about his offense too much. As far as his #'s above, they are from AAA, and with almost full playing time. You can't really project a guy when he gets to the bigs and gets 130 or so sporadic AB's.

Is Timo Perez still available?

Lillian
12-18-2010, 10:50 AM
I think it qualifies him to get a shot to start as the 4th OF. The main thing we need from that position is defense and speed, which he has. So I wouldn't be concerned about his offense too much. As far as his #'s above, they are from AAA, and with almost full playing time. You can't really project a guy when he gets to the bigs and gets 130 or so sporadic AB's.

Is Timo Perez still available?

Of course, you're right. I wasn't suggesting that he would put up the same numbers in the Major Leagues. If he could, he wouldn't just be a 4th outfielder, but rather our starting centerfielder!

gobears1987
12-18-2010, 11:05 AM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_RHy1W65wc0U/SNDG12M8IzI/AAAAAAAADG8/kXs2huFTKas/s320/white-sox-dick-allen-2.jpg
Damn straight!

:)

Don't call me Richie

gobears1987
12-18-2010, 11:06 AM
Come on Timo! Come on Timo! Come on Timo!

Lip Man 1
12-18-2010, 12:00 PM
Choat has already signed with Florida.

Lip

Zisk77
12-18-2010, 12:54 PM
Choat has already signed with Florida.

Lip

..."then cross him of the list, Charlie." :cool:

PalehosePlanet
12-18-2010, 02:37 PM
1. Add Ryan Church to those already mentioned.

2. Justin Duchscherer: Can proven that he can start or pitch out of the pen very effectively. Durability issues, so he should sign a one year incentive laden deal.

3. Add Denys Reyes to the list of already mentioned.

Lillian
12-19-2010, 05:11 AM
What happens if Dunn gets injured? This team doesn't have a single left handed hitter of note. It's pretty bad when there isn't anyone who could even DH from the left side. The Sox would be revisiting last years predicament of lacking any left handed thunder.

The best in house replacements would be Teahen or McPherson. That should tell you how bad it is.

Maybe they should be looking for another left handed bat.
I'm not suggesting a big investment, but just a backup.
Perhaps a veteran first baseman, who could give Paulie an occasional day off, and provide back up.

Any ideas?

JohnTucker0814
12-19-2010, 10:40 AM
I don't get all the fuss over HAVING to have a left handed slugger in the line-up. Yes, it's great to have a mix of hitters... but honestly, whats the big deal of having all RH hitters in the line-up. RH hitters generally hit RHP pretty well.

If Dunn were to go down, Viciedo could pick up the DH role and we would probably be okay for a while. Granted Viciedo wouldn't bat 4th or 5th in the line-up, so we'd obviously lose a little. But why does the replacement HAVE to be a lefty???

SOXSINCE'70
12-19-2010, 11:16 AM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_RHy1W65wc0U/SNDG12M8IzI/AAAAAAAADG8/kXs2huFTKas/s320/white-sox-dick-allen-2.jpg
Damn straight!

:)

I love that photo.:cool:

Frater Perdurabo
12-19-2010, 03:08 PM
What happens if Dunn gets injured? This team doesn't have a single left handed hitter of note. It's pretty bad when there isn't anyone who could even DH from the left side. The Sox would be revisiting last years predicament of lacking any left handed thunder.

The best in house replacements would be Teahen or McPherson. That should tell you how bad it is.

Maybe they should be looking for another left handed bat.
I'm not suggesting a big investment, but just a backup.
Perhaps a veteran first baseman, who could give Paulie an occasional day off, and provide back up.

Any ideas?

Teahen is not a perfect DH substitute if Dunn got hurt, but he's much better than Kotsay.

Teahen's main problem is that he wears his glove on his head. He's always been a decent hitter. At DH, his head-glove can't hurt you.