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JermaineDye05
12-08-2010, 12:33 AM
RT @CarrieMuskat (http://twitter.com/CarrieMuskat): #Cubs (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23Cubs) appear close to deal with Pena http://bit.ly/e4PgPm via @cubs (http://twitter.com/cubs) 19 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/mlbtraderumors/status/12389327904440320) via TweetDeck (http://www.tweetdeck.com/) Retweeted by 7 people
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#Cubs (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23Cubs) deal with Carlos Pena believed to be one year, $10 million. Expect more news later Wednesday 6 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/CarrieMuskat/status/12392605488783360) via web Retweeted by 22 people
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#cubs (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23cubs) are in agreement with carlos pena on deal less than 10 seconds ago (http://twitter.com/SI_JonHeyman/status/12395231345377280) via web
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Pena deal is done with #cubs (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23cubs), who get their lefthanded hitter and plus defender half a minute ago (http://twitter.com/SI_JonHeyman/status/12395777863196672) via web Retweeted by 1 person
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Wonder how this will affect the Pauly talks if at all. At least we know that's one team that is out of the running.

DirtySox
12-08-2010, 12:36 AM
Holy ****. $10 million after that clunker of a season?

.196/.325/.407 = $10 million?

JermaineDye05
12-08-2010, 12:39 AM
Holy ****. $10 million after that clunker of a season?

A .732 OPS and a .198 BA gets him $10 million?

In his defense, the three years prior he had driven in 100+ with 30+ HR (46, 31, 39).

Also, remember that this is Jim Hendry we're dealing with.

DirtySox
12-08-2010, 12:39 AM
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#cubs (http://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23cubs) are in agreement with carlos pena on deal
32 seconds ago (http://twitter.com/#%21/SI_JonHeyman/status/12395231345377280)

chunk
12-08-2010, 12:40 AM
He should rebound quite nicely against that division's terrible terrible pitching.

Boondock Saint
12-08-2010, 12:41 AM
These idiot GM's are ****ing everything up for those who still have a brain in their head.

JermaineDye05
12-08-2010, 12:42 AM
These idiot GM's are ****ing everything up for those who still have a brain in their head.

Albert is just licking his chops.

Boondock Saint
12-08-2010, 12:45 AM
Albert is just licking his chops.

...while John Mozeliak and William DeWitt are simultaneously kicking kittens in murderous rage.

DirtySox
12-08-2010, 12:46 AM
Didn't Ballantini mention that Pena was/might have been one of the Sox fallback plans? All the tweets have turned my brain to mush.

JermaineDye05
12-08-2010, 12:47 AM
Didn't Ballantini mention that Pena was/might have been one of KW fallback plans? All the tweets have turned my brain to mush.

I'm sure he was one of them.

DirtySox
12-08-2010, 01:00 AM
Methinks this isn't going to help resolve the PK issue tomorrow.

JermaineDye05
12-08-2010, 01:01 AM
Methinks this isn't going to help resolve the PK issue tomorrow.

On the plus side, all of Kenny's back-up plans will be asking for more money now too so it'll all even out.

Pablo_Honey
12-08-2010, 01:08 AM
Oh dear, this horse**** overpaying trend is only getting better and better...

gobears1987
12-08-2010, 01:32 AM
Remind me of this signing when the dumbassTom Ricketts is asking for money to renovate Wrigley Field.

KMcMahon817
12-08-2010, 01:35 AM
That's a lot of money. Sure doesn't help the SOX cause.

DirtySox
12-08-2010, 01:38 AM
FWIW, I like Pena and believe he will have a bounce back year. But $10 million seems a bit pricey.

SoxSpeed22
12-08-2010, 01:47 AM
Pena will help out the young guys, but that's still a lot of money. I'm surprised they couldn't give an extra year.

doublem23
12-08-2010, 06:31 AM
FWIW, I like Pena and believe he will have a bounce back year. But $10 million seems a bit pricey.

$10 M but only 1 year.

soxinem1
12-08-2010, 07:08 AM
$10 M but only 1 year.

For a team that is supposedly max'd on it's budget, looking for the state to renovate their park, and didn't notice Pena's numbers have noticeably slid for three straight seasons?

He's never really been an average guy, like Dunn, but Dunn never hit .227 and .196 in back to back seasons in what should be his prime years.

And he was part of a good lineup in TB.

Hmmmmm.

DrCrawdad
12-08-2010, 07:27 AM
For a team that is supposedly max'd on it's budget, looking for the state to renovate their park, and didn't notice Pena's numbers have noticeably slid for three straight seasons?

He's never really been an average guy, like Dunn, but Dunn never hit .227 and .196 in back to back seasons in what should be his prime years.

And he was part of a good lineup in TB.

Hmmmmm.

Dramatic drop in power and BA the past 3 season?
*cough* steroids *cough*

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LITTLE NELL
12-08-2010, 08:40 AM
Since I live in Florida I watch a lot of Rays games and have always liked Pena. Good guy to have on your team, a leader type. Last few years he has really devoloped an upper cut swing and he either hits a tape measure HR or strikes out. Has a very good glove but he needs to work on that swing. He will probably break a lot of windows on Sheffield ave.

ewokpelts
12-08-2010, 10:00 AM
my prediction: he'll be on a contender on Aug 1. It just wont be CHI-N.

Over By There
12-08-2010, 10:01 AM
I didn't want to mess up the Konerko thread with Cubs talk. PK's deal compared with the Pena deal highlights the difference between doing it right and doing it wrong.

soltrain21
12-08-2010, 10:21 AM
I didn't want to mess up the Konerko thread with Cubs talk. PK's deal compared with the Pena deal highlights the difference between doing it right and doing it wrong.

Yeah. That deal looks terrible now.

asindc
12-08-2010, 10:24 AM
Yeah. That deal looks terrible now.

Yeah, I would have thought they would at least get a club option for a 2nd year. Oh well, this won't help facilitate the KW for Hendry trade talks.

Boondock Saint
12-08-2010, 10:34 AM
Yeah. That deal looks terrible now.

When I saw what Pena got, my first reaction was, "God, the Cubs are morons." My next reaction was, "Oh, ****berries. The price for Paulie had to have just gone up if a guy who had such an awful season can grab $10m a season and Kerry Wood can demand $9m a season."

I swear, some of these GM's are absolutely insane.

g0g0
12-08-2010, 10:50 AM
Good pick-up for one year, though I agree the price is a little steep. Not a lot out there right now, especially with A-Gon off the market. What's sad is his 28 homers and 84 RBIs would have led the team last year. If he can turn it around this year though he'll definitely get some great offers from teams in the off-season. So hopefully the Cubbies will get a solid 1B and then transition to a more permanent solution.

MtGrnwdSoxFan
12-08-2010, 10:57 AM
Good pick-up for one year, though I agree the price is a little steep. Not a lot out there right now, especially with A-Gon off the market. What's sad is his 28 homers and 84 RBIs would have led the team last year. If he can turn it around this year though he'll definitely get some great offers from teams in the off-season. So hopefully the Cubbies will get a solid 1B and then transition to a more permanent solution.

I thought that the Cubs were toying with the idea of moving Colvin to first?

But yeah, the Cubs definitely overpaid for a guy that didn't even hit above the Mendoza line. Another alarming thing is that his stats (aside from HRs) have been dropping off precipitously since his monster year in '07. $10 mil for that?

Lee has to be happy...I think his price jumped up a mil or two.

g0g0
12-08-2010, 11:00 AM
I thought that the Cubs were toying with the idea of moving Colvin to first?

But yeah, the Cubs definitely overpaid for a guy that didn't even hit above the Mendoza line. Another alarming thing is that his stats (aside from HRs) have been dropping off precipitously since his monster year in '07. $10 mil for that?

Lee has to be happy...I think his price jumped up a mil or two.

Ya, I don't know what happened to the idea of Colvin going to first. I wouldn't have been unhappy with that. He did a solid job last year and played first base in HS.

VMSNS
12-08-2010, 12:20 PM
Overpaying for FA's must be trendy this offseason. Once again, Mike Rizzo, you are a ****ing moron.

Still, playing in the NL in that division and in that ballpark will probably make for a decent bounce back season for Pena. He's not going to hit well for average, but I bet he hits 30+ HRs at Wrigley. He's a very good 1B, and supposedly has strong veteran leadership. He could could be a good asset for their infield.

This is a pretty good pickup for the Cubs, I think. But, they just paid way, way too much for him.

soxinem1
12-08-2010, 12:54 PM
Overpaying for FA's must be trendy this offseason. Once again, Mike Rizzo, you are a ****ing moron.

Still, playing in the NL in that division and in that ballpark will probably make for a decent bounce back season for Pena. He's not going to hit well for average, but I bet he hits 30+ HRs at Wrigley. He's a very good 1B, and supposedly has strong veteran leadership. He could could be a good asset for their infield.

This is a pretty good pickup for the Cubs, I think. But, they just paid way, way too much for him.

I wouldn't blame Rizzo too much. WAS needs to do that until they start winning. They just picked the wrong guy.

Plus, anytime a small market type team steals something away from BOS, NYY, NYM, etc, I am happy.

palehozenychicty
12-08-2010, 01:36 PM
Pena for ten mil is ridiculous. But they're the Cubs, so I'm not surprised.

thomas35forever
12-08-2010, 01:40 PM
They sign a guy that can hit for power, but not for average. It's actually a good deal considering who it is.

TDog
12-08-2010, 02:28 PM
They sign a guy that can hit for power, but not for average. It's actually a good deal considering who it is.

Somewhere Joe Borchard wistfully recalls his signing bonus.

Pena has hit for average in the past. He probably can in the future. Rudy Jaramillo was his hitting coach in Texas and may be able to get Pena to adjust, not because he is a smarter hitting coach, but because he seems to have a good relationship with Pena.

The one-year contract is curious. I am guessing that multi-year contracts and contracts that included team options didn't come close to the money. Pena gets a second chance at having a free-agent year to put up monster numbers that will get him a contract that will make his career, although Puljos and Fielder could be free agents next winter as well.

Outwardly, the Cubs always profess to be contenders. Even if Pena has great numbers, the Cubs might not contend. And they would be able to turn him over for prospects from a contender. The A's have been known to sign free agents so they could deal them to contenders at the deadline, and I wouldn't be surprised if such as possibility was a factor in the Cubs' Pena signing.

Whether the signing makes sense or not, fans who lean toward optimism will see this as a reason to buy tickets.

kittle42
12-08-2010, 02:46 PM
He may easily hit 30+ HRs just at home this season. Of course, he's the left-handed Rob Deer lately.

BringHomeDaBacon
12-08-2010, 02:56 PM
If he gets off to a slow start, the assclown boobirds are going to be in full effect. I can see his year on the north side turning ugly in a hurry.

g0g0
12-08-2010, 03:47 PM
If he gets off to a slow start, the assclown boobirds are going to be in full effect. I can see his year on the north side turning ugly in a hurry.

At least he's not in the outfield lol.

WSox597
12-08-2010, 05:29 PM
Didn't Tampa want to sign him? Maybe they have a replacement in mind.

Imagine leaving a solid team like the Rays to enter Cubdom. The Rays are only a couple of years removed from the WS. And they were close again this year.

I guess $10 million will go a long way to ease the pain of playing up there.

Foulke You
12-08-2010, 05:58 PM
If he gets off to a slow start, the assclown boobirds are going to be in full effect. I can see his year on the north side turning ugly in a hurry.
On a 1 year deal, I can also see him turn into mid-season trade bait if the Cubs fall out of contention. Not necessarily a bad thing if you are a Cubs fan... if he has a rebound year, he could command a decent prospect in return.

Boondock Saint
12-08-2010, 07:19 PM
On a 1 year deal, I can also see him turn into mid-season trade bait if the Cubs fall out of contention. Not necessarily a bad thing if you are a Cubs fan... if he has a rebound year, he could command a decent prospect in return.

If he's still playing like garbage by July 31, the Cubs will have a hard time trading him and the ~$5m left on his deal, and will have an even harder time getting a decent prospect in return for him. The more likely result in that scenario is that the Cubs pay a couple million to whoever will take him, and get a middling to lower level prospect back.

Nelfox02
12-08-2010, 09:12 PM
If he gets off to a slow start, the assclown boobirds are going to be in full effect. I can see his year on the north side turning ugly in a hurry.

but now I read that they are looking to send top prospects to Tampa for Garza? Thought the Cubs were trying to stockpile young talent, not trade it away?

BringHomeDaBacon
12-09-2010, 09:33 AM
but now I read that they are looking to send top prospects to Tampa for Garza? Thought the Cubs were trying to stockpile young talent, not trade it away?

I think even Jim Hendry can recognize that Garza would flourish after moving from the AL East to the NL Central as he enters his prime. If Tampa is willing to move him, it's a no-brainer.

GoSox2K3
12-09-2010, 09:57 AM
Didn't Tampa want to sign him? Maybe they have a replacement in mind.

Imagine leaving a solid team like the Rays to enter Cubdom. The Rays are only a couple of years removed from the WS. And they were close again this year.

I guess $10 million will go a long way to ease the pain of playing up there.

Tampa Bay has attendance and revenue issues and can't hold on to their core of talent. I think last year was the last time they'll even be close to the playoffs again for a long, long time. They're going to be permanent doormats unless a) they happen to catch lightning in a bottle again with the talent they develop or b) they move out to another city that can support a MLB team.

WizardsofOzzie
12-09-2010, 11:51 AM
From a lot of the things I've read the Cubs fanbase is thrilled to get Pena instead of pursuing Konerko....I don't really understand this, especially considering recent production and what their pay will be.

g0g0
12-09-2010, 01:07 PM
From a lot of the things I've read the Cubs fanbase is thrilled to get Pena instead of pursuing Konerko....I don't really understand this, especially considering recent production and what their pay will be.

I think Pena is just a fill-in. I definitely wouldn't want Paulie for 3 years. I hope the Cubbies are looking for a big bat after next year. Pujols? :D:

TheVulture
12-09-2010, 05:27 PM
From a lot of the things I've read the Cubs fanbase is thrilled to get Pena instead of pursuing Konerko....I don't really understand this, especially considering recent production and what their pay will be.

http://psychology.about.com/od/theoriesofpersonality/ss/defensemech_6.htm

MtGrnwdSoxFan
12-09-2010, 07:44 PM
I think Pena is just a fill-in. I definitely wouldn't want Paulie for 3 years. I hope the Cubbies are looking for a big bat after next year. Pujols? :D:

I will run naked around Wrigley Field if Pujols signs with the Cubs. If in the rare chance he does go somewhere else, it's either Boston or New York (Mets or Yanks). But VERY likely, he's going to finish his career a Cardinal.

What would be his motivation for leaving the Cardinals to go to a team that is clearly in a rebuilding phase? He's going to get whatever he wants money-wise no matter where he goes, so he'll likely be looking for the best place to win if he doesn't re-sign with St. Louis since he's not getting any younger. I highly doubt the Cubs would be that place.

g0g0
12-10-2010, 09:28 AM
I will run naked around Wrigley Field if Pujols signs with the Cubs. If in the rare chance he does go somewhere else, it's either Boston or New York (Mets or Yanks). But VERY likely, he's going to finish his career a Cardinal.

What would be his motivation for leaving the Cardinals to go to a team that is clearly in a rebuilding phase? He's going to get whatever he wants money-wise no matter where he goes, so he'll likely be looking for the best place to win if he doesn't re-sign with St. Louis since he's not getting any younger. I highly doubt the Cubs would be that place.

Man, I should have put mine in teal, but I thought the happy face would let people know it was joking. I have no illusions about getting Pujols and I would be surprised if he EVER left St. Louis.