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WinningUgly!
06-29-2002, 09:47 PM
That game ending K today put SamME ahead of Bobby Bonds at #8 on the all time strike out list. McWhiff's not too far behind!

:)


1) Reggie Jackson-2597
2) Jose Canseco-1942
3) Willie Stargell-1936
4) Mike Schmidt-1883
5) Andres Galarraga-1875
6) Tony Perez-1867
7) Dave Kingman-1816*
8) SamME Sosa -1758+
9) Bobby Bonds-1757*
10) Dale Murphy-1748
11) Fred McWhiff -1742+

+ = active sCrUBBY
* = former sCrUBBY

voodoochile
06-29-2002, 09:56 PM
He'll get second no question and with a little luck and some hard cuts, he might even pass Mr October...

WinningUgly!
06-29-2002, 10:34 PM
Originally posted by voodoochile
He'll get second no question and with a little luck and some hard cuts, he might even pass Mr October...
If he could play for 21 seasons, like Reggie, there would be no doubt about it. ShamME is only in his 13th year. :D:

idseer
06-29-2002, 11:13 PM
Originally posted by WinningUgly!
That game ending K today put SamME ahead of Bobby Bonds at #8 on the all time strike out list. McWhiff's not too far behind!

:)


1) Reggie Jackson-2597
2) Jose Canseco-1942
3) Willie Stargell-1936
4) Mike Schmidt-1883
5) Andres Galarraga-1875
6) Tony Perez-1867
7) Dave Kingman-1816*
8) SamME Sosa -1758+
9) Bobby Bonds-1757*
10) Dale Murphy-1748
11) Fred McWhiff -1742+

+ = active sCrUBBY
* = former sCrUBBY

not that i like sosa .... i don't ...... but, i wouldn't mind being on that list!

WinningUgly!
06-29-2002, 11:33 PM
Originally posted by idseer


not that i like sosa .... i don't ...... but, i wouldn't mind being on that list!

He is in pretty good company. The main difference between Sosa & the 7 guys ahead of him...12.5 years for SamME--an average of about 19 years for the others. :D:

If Sosa plays for another 6.5 seasons (19 total) & averages 140 SO/year (his career ave.)-- he'll retire with 2668 career strike outs. That would be in 2 fewer seasons than Mr. October.

doublem23
06-29-2002, 11:35 PM
Originally posted by WinningUgly!


He is in pretty good company. The main difference between Sosa & the 7 guys ahead of him...12.5 years for SamME--an average of about 19 years for the others. :D:

If Sosa plays for another 6.5 seasons (19 total) & averages 140 SO/year (his career ave.)-- he'll retire with 2668 career strike outs. That would be be in 2 fewer seasons than Mr. October.

:shammy
But I hit the home runs!

Tragg
06-29-2002, 11:36 PM
Unfortunately, half of that list consists of hall of fame players.

WinningUgly!
06-29-2002, 11:40 PM
Originally posted by Tragg
Unfortunately, half of that list consists of hall of fame players.

And half of the players on the list list have WS rings as well...

voodoochile
06-29-2002, 11:41 PM
Originally posted by WinningUgly!


He is in pretty good company. The main difference between Sosa & the 7 guys ahead of him...12.5 years for SamME--an average of about 19 years for the others. :D:

If Sosa plays for another 6.5 seasons (19 total) & averages 140 SO/year (his career ave.)-- he'll retire with 2668 career strike outs. That would be in 2 fewer seasons than Mr. October.

Unless he has a serious down turn, he will also finish in the top 3 in homeruns...

Originally posted by Tragg
Unfortunately, half of that list consists of hall of fame players.

ShamME probably will make the HOF. He has great power numbers and they will continue for at least the next few years. Doe anyone see him hitting less than 50 in the next 4 years including this one? That would put him well over 600 for his career and if he can't make the hall with those types of numbers, then they should rename it the HOF - except for ShamME. Not a fan, but he does produce when it comes to hitting zingers and that has normally been enough...

WinningUgly!
06-29-2002, 11:46 PM
Originally posted by voodoochile


Unless he has a serious down turn, he will also finish in the top 3 in homeruns...



ShamME probably will make the HOF. He has great power numbers and they will continue for at least the next few years. Doe anyone see him hitting less than 50 in the next 4 years including this one? That would put him well over 600 for his career and if he can't make the hall with those types of numbers, then they should rename it the HOF - except for ShamME. Not a fan, but he does produce when it comes to hitting zingers and that has normally been enough...

He's in without a doubt. As much as I'd like to, you can't look past those HR numbers. The only thing that could keep him out would be some type of "Steroid-gate". I'm hanging on that hope. :D:

Tragg
06-30-2002, 12:02 AM
Originally posted by WinningUgly!


He's in without a doubt. As much as I'd like to, you can't look past those HR numbers. The only thing that could keep him out would be some type of "Steroid-gate". I'm hanging on that hope. :D:

LOL - we can only hope.

He certainly has gaudy home run numbers. He just seems like a Kingman to me - but a better Kingman that Kingman was.

Tragg
06-30-2002, 12:03 AM
And the sad thing is that Frank is considered iffy, and he's been a much better hitter overall than has Sosa and for a longer period. Frank can't field well, but neither can Sosa.

WinningUgly!
06-30-2002, 12:07 AM
Originally posted by Tragg


LOL - we can only hope.

He certainly has gaudy home run numbers. He just seems like a Kingman to me - but a better Kingman that Kingman was.

The home run is the most overrated stat in baseball.

Jerry_Manuel
06-30-2002, 12:10 AM
Originally posted by WinningUgly!
The only thing that could keep him out would be some type of "Steroid-gate". I'm hanging on that hope. :D:

Paging Pete Rose, we need some of your gambling records :D: