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JermaineDye05
12-06-2010, 08:11 PM
Kenny just crushed Phillip. Classic. about 3 hours ago (http://twitter.com/cst_sox/status/11906242087751680) via ÜberTwitter (http://www.ubertwitter.com/bb/download.php)
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Here's the Phil crushing. Phil asks about KW’s optimism toward his relievers in the organization ... about 3 hours ago (http://twitter.com/cst_sox/status/11908733328162816) via web Retweeted by 1 person
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KW says, "Phil, I’m more optimistic about everything than you are about us. ... '' about 3 hours ago (http://twitter.com/cst_sox/status/11908920339595265) via web Retweeted by 1 person
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"And it doesn’t matter what answer I give u, ur going to take the worst, most pessimistic road ... '' about 3 hours ago (http://twitter.com/cst_sox/status/11909080822063104) via web Retweeted by 1 person
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"...so again, I’m not going to waste my time on you.’’ about 3 hours ago (http://twitter.com/cst_sox/status/11909239324811264) via web Retweeted by 1 person
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Well, maybe not destroys, but he does kind of put him in his place.

TheCommander
12-06-2010, 08:12 PM
:supernana:

DSpivack
12-06-2010, 08:12 PM
:thumbsup:

Brian26
12-06-2010, 08:14 PM
I just moved the thread here to WTS because this is more concerned with Joe Cowley than anything Kenny said towards anyone else.

DirtySox
12-06-2010, 08:15 PM
nice

spawn
12-06-2010, 08:15 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/content/images/2007/05/02/michael_scott_396x222.jpg

"Boom. Roasted!"

That's awesome! :clap: :clap:

Lyle Mouton
12-06-2010, 08:18 PM
Welp, that was childish on KW's part.

Continually astounded by this organization's inability to take the high road.

soltrain21
12-06-2010, 08:21 PM
Welp, that was childish on KW's part.

Continually astounded by this organization's inability to take the high road.

...Do you read Phil Rogers? It was completely deserved.

spawn
12-06-2010, 08:24 PM
Welp, that was childish on KW's part.

Continually astounded by this organization's inability to take the high road.
It wasn't childish on his part...he was speaking the truth. Rogers has been talking out of his ass for a while now, so he finally got his just dessert.

Lyle Mouton
12-06-2010, 08:25 PM
...Do you read Phil Rogers? It was completely deserved.
I do not read Phil Rogers, though I'm well aware of his act, and his general lack of knowledge about this organization and baseball.

That said, just answer his question and move on.

spawn
12-06-2010, 08:27 PM
I do not read Phil Rogers, though I'm well aware of his act, and his general lack of knowledge about this organization and baseball.

That said, just answer his question and move on.
He's not worth answering.

Brian26
12-06-2010, 08:27 PM
Welp, that was childish on KW's part.

Continually astounded by this organization's inability to take the high road.

I do not read Phil Rogers, though I'm well aware of his act, and his general lack of knowledge about this organization and baseball.

That said, just answer his question and move on.

Don't worry. Even if Kenny answered the question, Cowley would find a way to stir up some ****.

Lyle Mouton
12-06-2010, 08:33 PM
He's not worth answering.
I understand this point of view. I guess I just wish he'd answered the question, as I think it was an apt one. Just seemed like a defensive response. Shrug.

spawn
12-06-2010, 08:38 PM
I understand this point of view. I guess I just wish he'd answered the question, as I think it was an apt one. Just seemed like a defensive response. Shrug.
From what I've read of Rogers, KW could've given a glowing review, and Rogers would've basically written he was full of ****. KW could've said he'd take a "wait and see" approach, Rogers would've written he has no confidence in the pen. Rogers has rarely written anything positive about the Sox or KW. Again, he's not worthy of a response.

Daver
12-06-2010, 08:47 PM
From what I've read of Rogers, KW could've given a glowing review, and Rogers would've basically written he was full of ****. KW could've said he'd take a "wait and see" approach, Rogers would've written he has no confidence in the pen. Rogers has rarely written anything positive about the Sox or KW. Again, he's not worthy of a response.

Phil does the prospect rankings on the Sox for Baseball America.

cws05champ
12-06-2010, 09:14 PM
Phil does the prospect rankings on the Sox for Baseball America.
The question is...should he?

Daver
12-06-2010, 09:43 PM
The question is...should he?

I don't see why not, all he is doing is interpreting scouting reports and ranking them based on that information with some help from a few scouts, it's not exactly rocket surgery.

Viva Medias B's
12-06-2010, 09:51 PM
Steak dinner boom!

MARTINMVP
12-06-2010, 10:00 PM
I've honestly steered clear of the sports pages of the Trib and Sun-Times for a few years now. I think I'm missing a lot of.... well at the very least, mild entertainment?

I did read that ridiculous Rogers article suggesting the Cubs and Sox make those ridiculous and impossible trades with each other. My thought was, is this guy a professional writer or a half ass blogger?

fram40
12-06-2010, 10:47 PM
I've honestly steered clear of the sports pages of the Trib and Sun-Times for a few years now. I think I'm missing a lot of.... well at the very least, mild entertainment?

I did read that ridiculous Rogers article suggesting the Cubs and Sox make those ridiculous and impossible trades with each other. My thought was, is this guy a professional writer or a half ass blogger?

Phil Rogers is a professional writer in name only. Elevating him to a half-assed blogger is an insult to qualified half assed bloggers everywhere.

It would be nice to see the Sox ignore idiots such as Rogers, but I understand Kenny having to strike back occassionally. It has to be hard to ignore idiots such as Rogers who have been around writing about the Sox for years and years.

doublem23
12-06-2010, 11:04 PM
Welp, that was childish on KW's part.

Continually astounded by this organization's inability to take the high road.

Please, it's not like he flipped a table or threw stack of papers at him, he just plainly told him what's what, that Rogers is a dick and he's got more important things to do than give him a quote to twist in his latest "musings" in the Tribune.

Well played, KW.

Boondock Saint
12-06-2010, 11:06 PM
Please, it's not like he flipped a table or threw stack of papers at him, he just plainly told him what's what, that Rogers is a dick and he's got more important things to do than give him a quote to twist in his latest "musings" in the Tribune.

Well played, KW.

:clap:

**** Rogers.

WhiteSox5187
12-07-2010, 02:36 AM
Please, it's not like he flipped a table or threw stack of papers at him, he just plainly told him what's what, that Rogers is a dick and he's got more important things to do than give him a quote to twist in his latest "musings" in the Tribune.

Well played, KW.

I agree with the sentiment but every city with a baseball team has a writer that is trashing the GM of a team, but it seems like KW is the only one who responds to them. I am hard pressed to recall an instance of Brian Cashman calling out the New York media. Maybe someone can correct me and find an instance, but it seems to me that there isn't a GM that gets into with the media more than Kenny.

Nelson Foxtrot
12-07-2010, 03:38 AM
I agree with the sentiment but every city with a baseball team has a writer that is trashing the GM of a team, but it seems like KW is the only one who responds to them. I am hard pressed to recall an instance of Brian Cashman calling out the New York media. Maybe someone can correct me and find an instance, but it seems to me that there isn't a GM that gets into with the media more than Kenny.

Cashman and Williams have very different personalities. Cashman is a calm, cautious, deliberate, diplomatic person who has the luxury of working for a team that will always draw national attention and will always have money to spend. Kenny is an aggressive, instinctual, tell-it-like-it-is guy. He also knows he'll never win the hearts of the local media in the same town as the Cubs, and will never be America's GM Sweetheart. Maybe he has a chip on his shoulder as a result. Maybe he thinks the fans do, and wants to throw them some red meat, to make sure he has a hungry fanbase ready to support the team. Either way, I love his bluntness.

KW when a reporter suggested the 2005 team's hot start was just luck:

"I'm sorry that you don't like our manager. I'm sorry that you don't like our 3-4-5 hitters. Or our closer. I'm sorry that you don't like our third baseman and our shortstop. Or our left fielder and our right fielder. I'm sorry people feel this way about our club. But I also want you to know something about that:

We don't care."

moochpuppy
12-07-2010, 06:18 AM
Continually astounded by this organization's inability to take the high road.

That's Denny Green's job.

soxinem1
12-07-2010, 07:35 AM
Don't worry. Even if Kenny answered the question, Cowley would find a way to stir up some ****.

And that is the reason KW's response was justified. This guy just likes to start **** and he got put in his place.

I am all for acting as a professional, but if the reporters choose to act like Jay Mariotti, they should get 'The Treatment'.

Bucky F. Dent
12-07-2010, 08:18 AM
Don't worry, Phil. We hate you too!

asindc
12-07-2010, 08:32 AM
I agree with the sentiment but every city with a baseball team has a writer that is trashing the GM of a team, but it seems like KW is the only one who responds to them. I am hard pressed to recall an instance of Brian Cashman calling out the New York media. Maybe someone can correct me and find an instance, but it seems to me that there isn't a GM that gets into with the media more than Kenny.

Trust me, he ain't. Far from it, in fact. As for examples, Bowden when he was here in DC, Minaya in NY, any Philly GM, and Schuerholz (sp?) in Atlanta.

Over By There
12-07-2010, 09:19 AM
And boom goes the dynamite. Thumbs up, KW.

seventyseven
12-07-2010, 09:27 AM
I do not read Phil Rogers, though I'm well aware of his act, and his general lack of knowledge about this organization and baseball.

That said, just answer his question and move on.

KW should answer any way he sees fit.

And also, grow a pair.

HTH.

Chez
12-07-2010, 09:40 AM
I remember after the Sox won the World Series when Phil Rogers came on this board and announced and advertised the new book he had just written about the championship season. Almost every poster fawned over Phil and seemed humbled by the fact that a real journalist had graced us with his presence on WSI (even though he was simply hawking his book to the perfect audience). Maybe it was the result of still basking in the glow of winning a World Series, but the amount of ass-kissing and sucking-up that day was rather embarrassing and in retrospect (when you read how people now hold Phil in such low regard), kind of funny.

TheOldRoman
12-07-2010, 10:06 AM
I remember after the Sox won the World Series when Phil Rogers came on this board and announced and advertised the new book he had just written about the championship season. Almost every poster fawned over Phil and seemed humbled by the fact that a real journalist had graced us with his presence on WSI (even though he was simply hawking his book to the perfect audience). Maybe it was the result of still basking in the glow of winning a World Series, but the amount of ass-kissing and sucking-up that day was rather embarrassing and in retrospect (when you read how people now hold Phil in such low regard), kind of funny.It's kinda the same thing with Dan H, WSI member who has written a few good (although poorly edited) White Sox books. He stomped his feet and stormed off to the island of the misfit toys a few years ago, then comes back to advertise his new book and got a stickied thread in the clubhouse. Nowadays it seems the only time he drops in is when the Sox lose or make a questionable move, in which case he just pisses on our rug and leaves.

soxpride724
12-07-2010, 10:27 AM
It's kinda the same thing with Dan H, WSI member who has written a few good (although poorly edited) White Sox books. He stomped his feet and stormed off to the island of the misfit toys a few years ago, then comes back to advertise his new book and got a stickied thread in the clubhouse. Nowadays it seems the only time he drops in is when the Sox lose or make a questionable move, in which case he just pisses on our rug and leaves.


Man, I thought those books were edited by a ten year old,lol. They are decent reads though.

TomBradley72
12-07-2010, 10:53 AM
I remember after the Sox won the World Series when Phil Rogers came on this board and announced and advertised the new book he had just written about the championship season. Almost every poster fawned over Phil and seemed humbled by the fact that a real journalist had graced us with his presence on WSI (even though he was simply hawking his book to the perfect audience). Maybe it was the result of still basking in the glow of winning a World Series, but the amount of ass-kissing and sucking-up that day was rather embarrassing and in retrospect (when you read how people now hold Phil in such low regard), kind of funny.

Thar was 5 years ago....the piles of b.s. that Rogers has written in that time span have changed the dynamic between him and the White Sox (and their fans).

doublem23
12-07-2010, 10:59 AM
Thar was 5 years ago....the piles of b.s. that Rogers has written in that time span have changed the dynamic between him and the White Sox (and their fans).

Not to mention, I'd be that a lot of the guys clammoring for Rogers at that time were probably not the same group bashing him today. And likewise, just because Phil is getting slammed in this thread right now, that doesn't mean that's the way the majority of the site view him.

Chez
12-07-2010, 11:22 AM
Not to mention, I'd be that a lot of the guys clammoring for Rogers at that time were probably not the same group bashing him today. And likewise, just because Phil is getting slammed in this thread right now, that doesn't mean that's the way the majority of the site view him.

Fair point.

hawkjt
12-07-2010, 11:59 AM
So,for Cowley, the enemy of my enemy is now my friend?

Cowley hates kenny and Phillip,so he has to love this exchange...he wins either way.

That column by Cowley on Sunday was so over the top in Kenny hate and ozzie love,it is pure silliness.
As a columnist he will be the new Mariotti,cept that Kenny is his Reinsdorf.
He stirs crap in whatever sport(college football,baseball) he choses to write about. Columnists used to be good writers with insightful opinions,now guys like Cowley just flame-throw and call it writing. Shame.

Dan H
12-07-2010, 12:22 PM
It's kinda the same thing with Dan H, WSI member who has written a few good (although poorly edited) White Sox books. He stomped his feet and stormed off to the island of the misfit toys a few years ago, then comes back to advertise his new book and got a stickied thread in the clubhouse. Nowadays it seems the only time he drops in is when the Sox lose or make a questionable move, in which case he just pisses on our rug and leaves.


I don't know what you mean by this. Stormed off where? As far as advertising my books, with the exception of the first, I have not done that. I have asked that people to talk to me to use in my books. But once the book hit the market, I made no more mention of it.

I do want to admit one thing: I am not a good editor. It is a skill I am trying to get better at and I feel I owe that to anyone who as purchased any of my books. I have made rookie mistakes and want to improve in that area.

If I only drop in, why do I have over 1,400 posts? I really don't understand this personal attack since I try to state my opinions without getting personal. I realize that many times people don't agree with me but that was a site like this is for. Baseball is about debate not agreement.

TheOldRoman
12-07-2010, 12:31 PM
I don't know what you mean by this. Stormed off where? As far as advertising my books, with the exception of the first, I have not done that. I have asked that people to talk to me to use in my books. But once the book hit the market, I made no more mention of it.

I do want to admit one thing: I am not a good editor. It is a skill I am trying to get better at and I feel I owe that to anyone who as purchased any of my books. I have made rookie mistakes and want to improve in that area.

If I only drop in, why do I have over 1,400 posts? I really don't understand this personal attack since I try to state my opinions without getting personal. I realize that many times people don't agree with me but that was a site like this is for. Baseball is about debate not agreement.Well, you have been here a long time. It seemed like you followed the mass exodus to another website and the first time you came back was to say "Hey, I've got a new book out." And over the past few years it seems like the only time you would pop in was when the Sox would lose or something cataclysmic would happen. If that is an incorrect perception, I apologize. As far as your books, I enjoyed what I read. I spoke to you once at Soxfest.

soxpride724
12-07-2010, 01:55 PM
I don't know what you mean by this. Stormed off where? As far as advertising my books, with the exception of the first, I have not done that. I have asked that people to talk to me to use in my books. But once the book hit the market, I made no more mention of it.

I do want to admit one thing: I am not a good editor. It is a skill I am trying to get better at and I feel I owe that to anyone who as purchased any of my books. I have made rookie mistakes and want to improve in that area.

If I only drop in, why do I have over 1,400 posts? I really don't understand this personal attack since I try to state my opinions without getting personal. I realize that many times people don't agree with me but that was a site like this is for. Baseball is about debate not agreement.

Hey Dan, no offense with the ten year old editor comment. I did enjoy your books.

fram40
12-07-2010, 02:43 PM
Man, I thought those books were edited by a ten year old,lol. They are decent reads though.

depressing as hell though. hard to believe how inept Sox mgmt has been over the years.

Frater Perdurabo
12-07-2010, 04:44 PM
Phil Rogers writes some head-scratchers every so often, but he's also tuned into what's going on in major league baseball. He's a solid reporter who works sources who, due to the changing nature of the business, is asked to write columns that are topical and will get hits. Even so, I've never gotten the impression that he's trolling or trying to go out of his way to criticize the Sox or Sox officials.

Brian26
12-07-2010, 04:56 PM
He stomped his feet and stormed off to the island of the misfit toys a few years ago, then comes back to advertise his new book and got a stickied thread in the clubhouse.

Well, you have been here a long time. It seemed like you followed the mass exodus to another website and the first time you came back was to say "Hey, I've got a new book out."

A handful of people talking to themselves on another site does not equate to a "mass exodus" when WSI has 8,000+ members.

TheOldRoman
12-07-2010, 05:09 PM
A handful of people talking to themselves on another site does not equate to a "mass exodus" when WSI has 8,000+ members.I think ass exodus would have been more accurate.

Brian26
12-08-2010, 11:13 PM
Question for anyone who follows Cowley, Merkin and CSNChiBeatnik on Twitter....

Who is "Sprinkles"? It seems like it's a reference to a female Chicago reporter.

AZChiSoxFan
12-09-2010, 12:03 AM
Phil Rogers is a professional writer in name only. Elevating him to a half-assed blogger is an insult to qualified half assed bloggers everywhere.

ROFL. classic!!

AZChiSoxFan
12-09-2010, 12:05 AM
Continually astounded by this organization's inability to take the high road.

I guess I'm at the other end of the spectrum. I'm glad to see people that aren't afraid to stand up to two bit ass clowns and call them exactly what they are.

DirtySox
12-09-2010, 12:06 AM
Question for anyone who follows Cowley, Merkin and CSNChiBeatnik on Twitter....

Who is "Sprinkles"? It seems like it's a reference to a female Chicago reporter.

Pretty sure Sprinkles is an inside joke between Merkin/Cowley/Ballantini referencing a fictional happy joyous unicorn of optimism. It was derived from Cowley's constant negativity.

GoGoCrede
12-09-2010, 12:16 AM
I thought Cowley was leaving his position as Sox beat reporter.

Lip Man 1
12-09-2010, 11:24 AM
Not until the end of the year.

Lip

Thome25
12-10-2010, 11:37 AM
Phil Rogers destroys himself with the insane things he writes.

PennStater98r
12-10-2010, 11:40 AM
Welp, that was childish on KW's part.

Continually astounded by this organization's inability to take the high road.

I'm continuously astounded that there always a White Sox fan that will bitch about absolutely everything. Phil Rogers has had this coming a long time...

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