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Sockinchisox
12-05-2010, 03:34 PM
http://zozone.mlblogs.com/archives/2010/12/werth_close_to_signing_with_na.html

chunk
12-05-2010, 03:35 PM
This is such an amazing offseason.

Good move for the Nats, especially with the protected pick.

doublem23
12-05-2010, 03:36 PM
I guess he was tired of working unpaid OT in October.

JermaineDye05
12-05-2010, 03:38 PM
So glad he didn't sign with the Tigers. That was my biggest concern.

DirtySox
12-05-2010, 03:38 PM
What in the flying ****?

I like this.

VMSNS
12-05-2010, 03:38 PM
Pretty surprising signing, if you ask me. Still, I'm glad he didn't sign with the Tigers, Yankees, or Red Sox.

spawn
12-05-2010, 03:40 PM
So the Red Sox don't get him? This just keeps getting better and better.

Sockinchisox
12-05-2010, 03:45 PM
Holy ****, it's a 7-year deal.

JermaineDye05
12-05-2010, 03:49 PM
Holy ****, it's a 7-year deal.

Well, given Werth's age, that's very shocking. Still the Nats are at least showing that they are committed to trying to make this team a winner. It seemed like a lot of people, including Ryan Zimmerman, were confused at the direction the team was going after they failed to re-sign Dunn.

DaveFeelsRight
12-05-2010, 03:50 PM
imagine that lineup if dunn was still there. dunn-zimmerman-werth would have been a great 3-4-5.

JermaineDye05
12-05-2010, 03:57 PM
Source: Werth is 7 yrs, $126M #Nationals (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23Nationals) #MLB (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23MLB) less than 20 seconds ago (http://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/11539650787147776) via Twitter for BlackBerry® (http://blackberry.com/twitter) Retweeted by 3 people
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Ka-Ching

Sockinchisox
12-05-2010, 03:58 PM
7-year, $126 million.

spawn
12-05-2010, 04:01 PM
7-year, $126 million.
Wow. Is he worth 18 million a year? I honestly don't know as I don't watch enough NL games.

DirtySox
12-05-2010, 04:02 PM
Wow. Is he worth 18 million a year? I honestly don't know as I don't watch enough NL games.

No. And he will be 38 at the end of the deal. The rub is, that if you are a team like the Nats competing with the Red Sox/Yankees on free agents, you are going to have to overpay in years/dollars. The same is true for many teams.

JermaineDye05
12-05-2010, 04:03 PM
Wow. Is he worth 18 million a year? I honestly don't know as I don't watch enough NL games.

His max in HR is 36. His max in RBI is 99.

He is close to a five tool player though. I think the Nats overpaid a bit.

NDSox12
12-05-2010, 04:03 PM
I'm baffled that the Nats didn't use this money to keep Dunn rather than to tie up a 31 year old for seven years. Oh well, works for me.

JermaineDye05
12-05-2010, 04:05 PM
I'm baffled that the Nats didn't use this money to keep Dunn rather than to tie up a 31 year old for seven years. Oh well, works for me.

I guess because Werth can do more things than Dunn.

DirtySox
12-05-2010, 04:06 PM
Nats fans are wondering where the hell this signing came from. Red Sox fans are panicking and reassuring themselves they will get Crawford instead.

DumpJerry
12-05-2010, 04:13 PM
Holy ****, it's a 7-year deal.
When did Jim Hendry get hired by the Nats?

Oh wait, Rizzo is the dumbest GM in MLB (after Kenny, according to some WSIers). How dumb is Rizzo? Thanks to him, the White Sox have Edwin Jackson and Adam Dunn. If he had a working noodle, he would have have Jackson to shore up the rotation since it probably is not known when Strasburg will come back or in what condition Strasburg will be in.

MeteorsSox4367
12-05-2010, 04:14 PM
Yeah. Nationals.com confirmed the signing. That gives the Nats at least two good bats with Werth and Zimmerman.

I like the Nats - I admit it. I just want to see them play better. Hopefully, this will help.

NDSox12
12-05-2010, 04:15 PM
I guess because Werth can do more things than Dunn.

That's true, but this is going to cost the Nats a lot more money than Dunn would have. This reminds me a little bit of the Cubs/Soriano deal, although Werth is obviously a better defensive player than Soriano ever was.

DirtySox
12-05-2010, 04:18 PM
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Barry Zito: seven years, $126M. Vernon Wells: seven years, $126M. #Nats (http://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23Nats) give Werth the Contract of Death. Should've gone $126,000,001.
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soltrain21
12-05-2010, 04:21 PM
I hope the Angels get Crawford.

JermaineDye05
12-05-2010, 04:31 PM
Rival GMs are not happy.

Last contract that generated this kind of vitriol was Kevin brown deal less than a minute ago (http://twitter.com/Buster_ESPN/status/11547779654483970) via Mobile Web (http://mobile.twitter.com/) from Bay Lake, Bay Lake (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Bay%20Lake,%20Bay%20Lake) Retweeted by 7 people
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The Werth contract has had an impact of an 8.0 earthquake. Rival gms, execs are going nuts about the terms. 7 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/Buster_ESPN/status/11546416442769408) via Mobile Web (http://mobile.twitter.com/) from Bay Lake, Bay Lake (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Bay%20Lake,%20Bay%20Lake) Retweeted by 67 people
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Hope this doesn't affect the negotiations with Konerko.

VMSNS
12-05-2010, 04:41 PM
Source: Werth is 7 yrs, $126M #Nationals (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23Nationals) #MLB (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23MLB) less than 20 seconds ago (http://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/11539650787147776) via Twitter for BlackBerry® (http://blackberry.com/twitter) Retweeted by 3 people
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Ka-Ching


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He's going to be ridiculously overpaid for the type of player he is. Like someone else just said, I really hope this doesn't affect our terms with PK.

Chez
12-05-2010, 04:55 PM
Does Werth's contract this drive up the value of Paul Konerko to the point that the Sox won't be able to afford to bring him back?

spawn
12-05-2010, 04:58 PM
Does Werth's contract this drive up the value of Paul Konerko to the point that the Sox won't be able to afford to bring him back?
Different players, different skill sets. This did shake up the FA market though. Makes you wonder what Crawford is going to get now.

DirtySox
12-05-2010, 05:02 PM
Different players, different skill sets. This did shake up the FA market though. Makes you wonder what Crawford is going to get now.

8-ish years. Maybe around 150 million.

JermaineDye05
12-05-2010, 05:04 PM
8-ish years. Maybe around 150 million.

The Yankees were gonna give him that regardless.

That assumes they don't get Lee.

cards press box
12-05-2010, 05:06 PM
Different players, different skill sets. This did shake up the FA market though. Makes you wonder what Crawford is going to get now.

It makes me glad that the Sox signed Adam Dunn two days ago.

DirtySox
12-05-2010, 05:09 PM
It makes me glad that the Sox signed Adam Dunn two days ago.

Same.

I also don't think this signing will have a huge impact on PK. His comments on free agency made it seem that money isn't the primary driving force on where he signs. It's about fit, comfort, and his family. I'm still expecting his return sometime early this week.

JermaineDye05
12-05-2010, 05:12 PM
It makes me glad that the Sox signed Adam Dunn two days ago.

Same.

I also don't think this signing will have a huge impact on PK. His comments on free agency made it seem that money isn't the primary driving force on where he signs. It's about fit, comfort, and his family. I'm still expecting his return sometime early this week.

It's interesting you mention that. Buster Olney said something about the move when it happened. How once big free agents got taken off the board, there would be a domino effect and then there would be more suitors that the Sox would have had to compete with like say the Red Sox or Rangers.

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thomas35forever
12-05-2010, 05:30 PM
That's a huge deal. Hope he can live up to it.

Ranger
12-05-2010, 05:57 PM
I'm baffled that the Nats didn't use this money to keep Dunn rather than to tie up a 31 year old for seven years. Oh well, works for me.

I guess because Werth can do more things than Dunn.

It could also be that maybe Dunn really wasn't all that interested in staying there.

Does Werth's contract this drive up the value of Paul Konerko to the point that the Sox won't be able to afford to bring him back?

Different players, different skill sets. This did shake up the FA market though. Makes you wonder what Crawford is going to get now.

And different situations. While Konerko's agent may wish to use the Werth signing to his advantage, Konerko is at a stage in his life and career where he will likely take more control of his own situation than a younger player might. He may be more inclined to tell Landis, "Just get it done."

JermaineDye05
12-05-2010, 06:02 PM
It could also be that maybe Dunn really wasn't all that interested in staying there.



That's true. He did say that the White Sox were #1 on the list of teams he wanted to go to this offseason. He was really adamant about wanting to win.

asindc
12-05-2010, 06:08 PM
It could also be that maybe Dunn really wasn't all that interested in staying there.





And different situations. While Konerko's agent may wish to use the Werth signing to his advantage, Konerko is at a stage in his life and career where he will likely take more control of his own situation than a younger player might. He may be more inclined to tell Landis, "Just get it done."

Dunn really wanted a 4th year, which the Nats just simply did not want to give him. If they did, they probably would have signed him during the season. By all accounts, Dunn did want to stay there, but it would have cost the Nats more because it was unlikely that the Nats would contend for the playoffs.

asindc
12-05-2010, 06:11 PM
imagine that lineup if dunn was still there. dunn-zimmerman-werth would have been a great 3-4-5.

I have no idea why anyone thinks Dunn would be a #3 hitter for the Nats, for the Sox, for any other team. Zimmerman is the Nats' #3 hitter, and Rios, Konerko, and TCQ (if he gets back to 90% of 2008 form) are much better candidates for the #3 spot in the lineup.

Ranger
12-05-2010, 06:11 PM
Dunn really wanted a 4th year, which the Nats just simply did not want to give him. If they did, they probably would have signed him during the season. By all accounts, Dunn did want to stay there, but it would have cost the Nats more because it was unlikely that the Nats would contend for the playoffs.

"All accounts" really won't always tell you the full story. The 4th year may not have necessarily been the sticking point in his mind. Whatever the factors (and you'll never know all of them), there are probably a number of reasons he didn't want to stay there.

JermaineDye05
12-05-2010, 06:16 PM
a shot at washington or omar? or both? RT @NYPost_Mets (http://twitter.com/NYPost_Mets) Sandy Alderson on Werth deal: "It makes some of our contracts look pretty good." half a minute ago (http://twitter.com/SI_JonHeyman/status/11574492044197888) via web Retweeted by 2 people
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Brian26
12-05-2010, 06:30 PM
Wow. Is he worth 18 million a year? I honestly don't know as I don't watch enough NL games.

Not IMHO. This seems very reactionary by Washington, possibly because of Zimmerman's comments after Dunn left. This could easily become an albatross contract. It just boggles the mind when they could have signed Dunn for less money and with more of a proven track record.

cws05champ
12-05-2010, 06:31 PM
A 31 yr old that hit .296, 27 HR, 85 RBI (.532 SLG) gets you 7 yrs $126M??? But a 31 yr old that hit .260, 38HR, 103 RBI (.536 SLG) gets 4/$56?

I'm not complaining...Rizzo is an idiot. Alfonso Soriano left the Nats for the Cubs for a similar deal. How'd that work out for the Cubs so far? I know they have to overpay for talent there, but jeez, you should have just given Dunn a 4 yr extension for half the $$ and spend the rest on another pitcher.

asindc
12-05-2010, 06:31 PM
"All accounts" really won't always tell you the full story. The 4th year may not have necessarily been the sticking point in his mind. Whatever the factors (and you'll never know all of them), there are probably a number of reasons he didn't want to stay there.

I'm not claiming to know the full story, but what has been reported and backed up by Nats players and management is that Dunn was happy with the Nats, but the major sticking points was the 4th year and the possibility of playing for a contender. The impression most got from that is that it would cost the Nats more to sign him than any contending team.

Ranger
12-05-2010, 06:41 PM
I'm not claiming to know the full story, but what has been reported and backed up by Nats players and management is that Dunn was happy with the Nats, but the major sticking points was the 4th year and the possibility of playing for a contender. The impression most got from that is that it would cost the Nats more to sign him than any contending team.

Well, that would mean that he would've preferred to go to a different team, wouldn't it? If he'd rather play for a contender, and it would take more financial incentive to stay in WSH, it would stand to reason that he wanted to go somewhere else, right? Regardless if he wanted to leave because he likes the city of Chicago better or he thinks the Sox will have a better chance to win, the point is that it probably wasn't all about that 4th year. From what I've heard, it isn't necessarily true that if the Nats had offered the same deal the Sox did, he would've stayed.

I don't even know that to be the truth for sure since I haven't talked to him directly, but it looks like it wasn't just about that 4th year.

asindc
12-05-2010, 06:43 PM
Well, that would mean that he would've preferred to go to a different team, wouldn't it? If he'd rather play for a contender, and it would take more financial incentive to stay in WSH, it would stand to reason that he wanted to go somewhere else, right? Regardless if he wanted to leave because he likes the city of Chicago better or he thinks the Sox will have a better chance to win, the point is that it probably wasn't all about that 4th year. From what I've heard, it isn't necessarily true that if the Nats had offered the same deal the Sox did, he would've stayed.

I don't even know that to be the truth for sure since I haven't talked to him directly, but it looks like it wasn't just about that 4th year.

I don't think we are disagreeing here. My point is that the Nats might have been able to sign Dunn if they were willing to go high enough. They were not, so Dunn began looking elsewhere, most likely because he wanted to play for a contender IF the Nats were not going to meet his price for them.

wassagstdu
12-05-2010, 06:56 PM
I would rather have had Werth than Dunn, but I think the price differential is about right. Werth is a player; Dunn is a hitter. Sox fans, at least, have tended not to know the difference. The Nats seem to.

spawn
12-05-2010, 06:59 PM
I would rather have had Werth than Dunn, but I think the price differential is about right. Werth is a player; Dunn is a hitter. Sox fans, at least, have tended not to know the difference. The Nats seem to.
The Sox needed power from the left. If Paulie does sign, then with him, Rios, TCQ, even Alexei, the right side is covered. And to say that Sox fans don't recognize Dunn as being a purely offensive player tells me you really haven't been reading the threads since he was acquired.

asindc
12-05-2010, 07:02 PM
I would rather have had Werth than Dunn, but I think the price differential is about right. Werth is a player; Dunn is a hitter. Sox fans, at least, have tended not to know the difference. The Nats seem to.

I know the difference enough to know that I'm glad Dunn said he is willing to play any position, and that Werth is not more than twice the money better than Dunn. This is coming from someone who has repeatedly said here in many threads that Dunn plays 1B and OF like a DH.

VMSNS
12-05-2010, 07:04 PM
I would rather have had Werth than Dunn, but I think the price differential is about right. Werth is a player; Dunn is a hitter. Sox fans, at least, have tended not to know the difference. The Nats seem to.

I'd much rather have 4 years of Dunn at 14 million per year than 7 years of Werth at 18 million per year. Keep in mind, they're both 31 years old and that Dunn is moving to a hitter-friendly park with a much better lineup to hit in. Werth is moving from a stacked lineup (Utley/Howard) to a team that still probably won't be competing for another 2-3 years. I'll admit that Werth is closer to a 5-tool player and probably a better "all-around" player. But still, I'd rather take Dunn in this particular situation.

In fact, the more I think about it, the more insane this deal sounds. I can't even imagine how much Crawford and Gonzo are going to want now. 8 years/160mil?

Pablo_Honey
12-05-2010, 07:09 PM
I would rather have had Werth than Dunn, but I think the price differential is about right. Werth is a player; Dunn is a hitter. Sox fans, at least, have tended not to know the difference. The Nats seem to.
True that Dunn's value is purely in his hitting skills but he will be our designated HITTER. And you know, that's a great feeling because uh, I remember that we played the vast majority of 2010 without one. Better yet, he's here for 4 years so if he tanks, we can grind his contract out. Tell me, how the hell were we supposed to grind out 18 mil for 7 years?

doublem23
12-05-2010, 07:14 PM
I would rather have had Werth than Dunn, but I think the price differential is about right. Werth is a player; Dunn is a hitter. Sox fans, at least, have tended not to know the difference. The Nats seem to.

Yeah the Nats have their **** figured out.

UofCSoxFan
12-05-2010, 07:18 PM
I would rather have had Werth than Dunn, but I think the price differential is about right. Werth is a player; Dunn is a hitter. Sox fans, at least, have tended not to know the difference. The Nats seem to.

Good thing the Sox will only use Dunn as a hitter then.

Werth is a good player, but I'm glad some other team gave him the third richest contract ever given to an outfielder.

palehozenychicty
12-05-2010, 08:25 PM
I like a lot of things about Werth's game, and don't blame him for seeking the top dollar. He doesn't have the longest track record of success, and that also factors into a player's decision when approaching free agency. He did the Phils a favor, though. Amaro would get hung on City Hall if he gave him anything near that deal.

Bucky F. Dent
12-05-2010, 09:17 PM
This just in....Carl Crawford just bought Jayson Werth a Ferrari!

johnnyg83
12-06-2010, 12:12 AM
THis just in, Jayson Werth just bought the Pirates!

Foulke You
12-06-2010, 12:37 AM
I would rather have had Werth than Dunn, but I think the price differential is about right. Werth is a player; Dunn is a hitter. Sox fans, at least, have tended not to know the difference. The Nats seem to.
The Werth contract has Soriano written all over it. There is nothing "right" about it. When SI puts together its list of "worst contracts in baseball" in a few years, I will bet money that Werth's deal is going to be at the top of the list. They could have filled two starting rotation holes with that money and possibly still had money left over to sign a journeyman outfielder like Andruw Jones to a 1 or 2 year deal to fill in until their younger guys are ready. Thank God Kenny Williams isn't foolish enough to give out that many high dollar years to a 32 year old outfielder. On a side note, Scott Boras fleeces yet another GM. This guy must have Jedi mind tricks or something to get teams to open their wallets wide.

SoxNation05
12-06-2010, 12:41 AM
Wassagstdu or whatever got worked on every level.

Good job Sox fans!

sullythered
12-06-2010, 03:25 AM
Dude has had like 2 pretty good offensive seasons, and he's 32 years old. I don't care if he's the greatest defensive right fielder in the history of the game, this contract is asinine.

tstrike2000
12-06-2010, 04:27 AM
126 million for 7 years for Jayson Werth? For a guy with a career .270 average? Yeah, he's got some power, but that's ridiculous.

VenturaFan23
12-06-2010, 06:11 AM
Holy Soriano, Zito, Vernon Wells, and Kevin Brown, Batman! :o:

Well, at least they have Edwin Jackson to help the pit.....oh wait. :cool:

wassagstdu
12-06-2010, 06:37 AM
Wassagstdu or whatever got worked on every level.

Good job Sox fans!

Ouch. But I think my point was made by some of the responses. My statement referred to my perception that there is a strong thread of thought among y'all that would lead to the Sox being a team of 8 1B/DH types. Of course that is a caricature, just like the argument that Ozzie wants a team of grinders with no power.

soxfanatlanta
12-06-2010, 09:19 AM
He's good, but looking over his home/road stats over the past 3 years, that guy has Citizens Bank Park to thank for this gaudy contract.

RockJock07
12-06-2010, 10:11 AM
He's good, but looking over his home/road stats over the past 3 years, that guy has Citizens Bank Park to thank for this gaudy contract.

Yeah, he had lots of protection in the line-up and wasn't depended upon to be the man. Now with this contract he's going to have to do well on his own and this contract doesn't scream more wins for the Nats.

illinibk
12-06-2010, 11:05 AM
Wow, Rizzo is surely an idiot. For people saying the Rios contract was/is bad, they have to be going nuts over this one. I for the life of me can't see how Werth should get that much, based on two or three good seasons in a tiny ballpark with a stacked lineup. But after the crap Rizzo pulled last summer, I'm more than happy to see him get fleeced.

spongyfungy
12-06-2010, 11:31 AM
Dunn sounded pretty honest at his introduction (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/04/AR2010120400451.html). He said when they couldn't get a new deal done towards the end of the season, it was pretty much over with the Nats. He called it a "turning point" and when asked if there was any new contact with the Nats at the start of free agency, he said there wasn't any. He was looking for a contender and a chance to win a ring. I don't think we can't say the 4th year was not important b/c he said "That fourth year is very important to me," and "I don't believe that the Nationals would have matched it."

I think Dunn is fuming over this Werth deal.

soltrain21
12-06-2010, 11:40 AM
Dunn sounded pretty honest at his introduction (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/04/AR2010120400451.html). He said when they couldn't get a new deal done towards the end of the season, it was pretty much over with the Nats. He called it a "turning point" and when asked if there was any new contact with the Nats at the start of free agency, he said there wasn't any. He was looking for a contender and a chance to win a ring. I don't think we can't say the 4th year was not important b/c he said "That fourth year is very important to me," and "I don't believe that the Nationals would have matched it."

I think Dunn is fuming over this Werth deal.

He might feel betrayed because the Nats gave Werth this money - but at least here he gets a chance to win.

soltrain21
12-06-2010, 04:44 PM
Just for reference...


This guy.
http://www.portersprospects.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/jayson-werth.jpg
Just signed a contract for 126 million. THAT GUY.

KRS1
12-06-2010, 05:20 PM
What a hilariously awful contract.

asindc
12-06-2010, 05:34 PM
This is not an attempt to defend the contract, believe me, but the rationale Rizzo has given for the contract is--

1. Werth is a 5-tool player.
2. They wanted to show fans that they are serious about being big players in the FA market.
3. They wanted to show players that they are willing to pay the money.
4. They knew they would have to pay substantially more than others to lure players.
5. Werth has only been a full time player for 2+ years, so he is not as worn down as the average 31-year old.
6. They can afford it, and wanted to show that as well.

For what it's worth, being a Nats fan in this town is being part of a distinct minority. I'm off work today and have been working around the house while listening to sports talk radio. There are two such stations here, and they each have probably discussed this deal a total of less than an hour each so far today. Each station was preoccupied with Albert Haynsworth being scratched from the roster for yesterday's game.

The Nats needed a big splash to keep casual fans interested. I would not have done this deal, but they did need to do something this offseason, especially after not re-signing Dunn.

soxinem1
12-06-2010, 05:56 PM
Glad that WAS was generous enough to outbid anyone interested in a 31-year old late bloomer, so I am glad he will not be in DET lineup.

That being said, Werth was a journeyman just two years ago and there is NO WAY the Natinals made themselves stronger in this deal, especially when they have Willingham and Zimmerman close to FA.

Looks to me like Alfonso Soriano redux...

NDSox12
12-06-2010, 06:51 PM
That being said, Werth was a journeyman just two years ago and there is NO WAY the Natinals made themselves stronger in this deal, especially when they have Willingham and Zimmerman close to FA.

Looks to me like Alfonso Soriano redux...

Zimmerman has three more years on his deal. I'm not so sure Willingham will still be a Nat come Opening Day, but even if he is, he won't be in their long term plans. Werth and Harper figure to be their corner outfielders come 2012.

I agree with the Soriano comparison though.

JermaineDye05
12-16-2010, 12:51 PM
Did anyone happen to catch the press conference yesterday?

Mike Rizzo stated: "We've got a guy here who can hit 30+ homeruns, drive in 100 runs, play gold glove defense, steal you 20 bases, lead in the clubhouse, and be a middle of the lineup hitter."

It seems that Mr. Rizzo never got the memo on Werth that showed that he's only reached 30 homeruns once in his career and has never reached 100 RBI in a season.

asindc
12-16-2010, 12:55 PM
Zimmerman has three more years on his deal. I'm not so sure Willingham will still be a Nat come Opening Day, but even if he is, he won't be in their long term plans. Werth and Harper figure to be their corner outfielders come 2012.

I agree with the Soriano comparison though.

Ken_Rosenthal

#A's, #Nationals in agreement on Willingham. Just completing final exchange of medical information. #MLB

NLaloosh
12-16-2010, 01:08 PM
Did anyone happen to catch the press conference yesterday?

Mike Rizzo stated: "We've got a guy here who can hit 30+ homeruns, drive in 100 runs, play gold glove defense, steal you 20 bases, lead in the clubhouse, and be a middle of the lineup hitter."

It seems that Mr. Rizzo never got the memo on Werth that showed that he's only reached 30 homeruns once in his career and has never reached 100 RBI in a season.

He's pretty much dead on though. That's a veiled reference to Werth being a far more valuable player than Dunn.

However, they still overpaid. That was ridiculous. I could see 5 years at $ 90 mil. for him max.

34 Inch Stick
12-16-2010, 01:27 PM
Did anyone happen to catch the press conference yesterday?

Mike Rizzo stated: "We've got a guy here who can hit 30+ homeruns, drive in 100 runs, play gold glove defense, steal you 20 bases, lead in the clubhouse, and be a middle of the lineup hitter."

It seems that Mr. Rizzo never got the memo on Werth that showed that he's only reached 30 homeruns once in his career and has never reached 100 RBI in a season.

and I've always heard that he is a complete ******* of a human being, but maybe that is just with reporters.

asindc
12-16-2010, 01:31 PM
and I've always heard that he is a complete ******* of a human being, but maybe that is just with reporters.

Which he?

34 Inch Stick
12-16-2010, 01:35 PM
Werth

asindc
12-16-2010, 01:39 PM
and I've always heard that he is a complete ******* of a human being, but maybe that is just with reporters.

Which he?

Werth

In the few interviews I've seen him do this week, my initial impression is that he is measured in his comments, kind of average as an interviewee. He says all the right things, but I can't help but think he is thinking while he is talking, "as long as I don't say I'm here for the money, I'm good."