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Sockinchisox
12-03-2010, 01:15 PM
There's your salary relief.

http://twitter.com/#!/jonmorosi/status/10758480080142336

DirtySox
12-03-2010, 01:16 PM
Wow.

Linebrink for a marginal relief prospect. Kenny fleeced Wren! :bandance:

beasly213
12-03-2010, 01:16 PM
Yessssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DirtySox
12-03-2010, 01:17 PM
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Linebrink will make $5.5M in final year of four-year contract. Not clear how much cash going to #Braves (http://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23Braves) in this trade. #WhiteSox (http://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23WhiteSox) #MLB (http://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23MLB)
34 seconds ago (http://twitter.com/#%21/jonmorosi/status/10759137075924992)

SoxGirl4Life
12-03-2010, 01:18 PM
Nice!

PalehosePlanet
12-03-2010, 01:19 PM
We've got to be paying about half of that 5.5 right?

asindc
12-03-2010, 01:19 PM
When I refreshed my screen and saw the thread title, I literally yelled "Wooooo!" KW is on an early roll. Even if he has to pick up half the salary, it is still worth it.

RedHeadPaleHoser
12-03-2010, 01:19 PM
I need to leave the office more.

I was out yesterday, Dunn got signed.

I went out today, Linebrink got traded.

If this trend continues, Konerko will be signed and Bobby Thigpen will close for us again. :D:

Nelfox02
12-03-2010, 01:20 PM
wow, did not see that coming


maybe there is some hope to move Teahen after all?

palehozenychicty
12-03-2010, 01:22 PM
If somebody wanted Scott Linebrink, we will get rid of Mark Teahen.


Damn, Wren was on fire with Uggla. He put it out now. :D:

ChiSoxGal85
12-03-2010, 01:24 PM
I need to leave the office more.

I was out yesterday, Dunn got signed.

I went out today, Linebrink got traded.

If this trend continues, Konerko will be signed and Bobby Thigpen will close for us again. :D:

Yeah, don't you have an errand to run? A Christmas present to go buy? Something? :smile:

OMG, I never would have guessed that trading Linebrink was in the mix here...Wow!

nccwsfan
12-03-2010, 01:25 PM
Kenny Williams is the man, period.

esbrechtel
12-03-2010, 01:25 PM
:bandance:

GoGoCrede
12-03-2010, 01:26 PM
:o::o::o: Wow. I'm relieved, of course. And I hope Linebrink thrives. He's always been a wonderful guy off the field, IMO. I'm sure Jake will miss him - they're best friends.

cws05champ
12-03-2010, 01:26 PM
If somebody wanted Scott Linebrink, we will get rid of Mark Teahen.


Damn, Wren was on fire with Uggla. He put it out now. :D:

I know Teahen has been the whipping boy because of the contract the sox gave him and his less than stellar year in 2010. However I still think is a good piece to a good ballclub, like a Mark DeRosa type. He can play 1B, 2B, 3B and the corner OF spots and is a left handed gap power guy. He should not be starting but play a utility role. If we get something needed for him fine....but I still think he can be a valuable piece to the team.

EDI: Glad to be rid of Liney though...

hi im skot
12-03-2010, 01:29 PM
**** and yes.

spawn
12-03-2010, 01:29 PM
I need to leave the office more.

I was out yesterday, Dunn got signed.

I went out today, Linebrink got traded.

If this trend continues, Konerko will be signed and Bobby Thigpen will close for us again. :D:
It's about time for a lunch break, right? I think you need to go out for lunch today.

DSpivack
12-03-2010, 01:29 PM
I know Teahen has been the whipping boy because of the contract the sox gave him and his less than stellar year in 2010. However I still think is a good piece to a good ballclub, like a Mark DeRosa type. He can play 1B, 2B, 3B and the corner OF spots and is a left handed gap power guy. He should not be starting but play a utility role. If we get something needed for him fine....but I still think he can be a valuable piece to the team.

EDI: Glad to be rid of Liney though...

I don't and I don't really think he can play anywhere. Doesn't really have much power, either.

DumpJerry
12-03-2010, 01:31 PM
:):):):):):)

palehozenychicty
12-03-2010, 01:34 PM
I don't and I don't really think he can play anywhere. Doesn't really have much power, either.

I don't think he can play either. At all.

DirtySox
12-03-2010, 01:35 PM
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jonmorosi (http://twitter.com/#%21/jonmorosi) Jon Morosi
#Braves (http://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23Braves) receive cash in the Linebrink trade. Not sure how much yet.
1 minute ago (http://twitter.com/#%21/jonmorosi/status/10763564222513152)

soltrain21
12-03-2010, 01:39 PM
God damn awesome.

WizardsofOzzie
12-03-2010, 01:43 PM
:moonwalk::bliss::wooty::bandance:

joebro25
12-03-2010, 01:45 PM
I don't care if Kyle Cofield ever makes the major leagues for us, this is still a great deal for KW! :bandance:

doublem23
12-03-2010, 01:46 PM
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jonmorosi (http://twitter.com/#%21/jonmorosi) Jon Morosi
#Braves (http://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23Braves) receive cash in the Linebrink trade. Not sure how much yet.
1 minute ago (http://twitter.com/#%21/jonmorosi/status/10763564222513152)

Eh, I guess it couldn't be all perfect. Oh well, whatever.

JR seems to be in a check-writing mood right now, better strike while the iron's hot.

RedHeadPaleHoser
12-03-2010, 01:47 PM
Yeah, don't you have an errand to run? A Christmas present to go buy? Something? :smile:

OMG, I never would have guessed that trading Linebrink was in the mix here...Wow!

It's about time for a lunch break, right? I think you need to go out for lunch today.

Ok, you've convinced me. I'm heading back out to return something for work. I take FULL ****ING CREDIT if Konerko is signed in the next 20 minutes. :cool: :D: :gulp:

Chez
12-03-2010, 01:48 PM
Defending Linebrink on this board these past few years was exhausting! I hope it works out for him in Atlanta.

Tekijawa
12-03-2010, 01:48 PM
I may need to bring back the "Kenny Williams Chuck Norris" thread after the past 2 days.

TDog
12-03-2010, 01:49 PM
Wow.

Linebrink for a marginal relief prospect. Kenny fleeced Wren! :bandance:

Linebrink may do well with the Braves. Meanwhile, the White Sox are forced to rebuilding their bullpen, practically from scratch. If the Sox sign free agent middle relievers who have had success in the past, they may end up paying as much for them and may get about what they could have expected out of Linebrink.

The only way the Sox benefit from this deal is if all of Linebrink's salary is cleared from the White Sox ledgers or if the marginal prosepct develops. The move doesn't improve the Sox bullpen. I don't think the White Sox "fleeced" the Braves at all.

doublem23
12-03-2010, 01:53 PM
The move doesn't improve the Sox bullpen.

http://images.napster.com/mp3s/2057/resources/106/903/files/106903233.jpg

soltrain21
12-03-2010, 01:53 PM
Linebrink may do well with the Braves. Meanwhile, the White Sox are forced to rebuilding their bullpen, practically from scratch. If the Sox sign free agent middle relievers who have had success in the past, they may end up paying as much for them and may get about what they could have expected out of Linebrink.

The only way the Sox benefit from this deal is if all of Linebrink's salary is cleared from the White Sox ledgers or if the marginal prosepct develops. The move doesn't improve the Sox bullpen. I don't think the White Sox "fleeced" the Braves at all.

Of course.

palehozenychicty
12-03-2010, 01:54 PM
Linebrink may do well with the Braves. Meanwhile, the White Sox are forced to rebuilding their bullpen, practically from scratch. If the Sox sign free agent middle relievers who have had success in the past, they may end up paying as much for them and may get about what they could have expected out of Linebrink.

The only way the Sox benefit from this deal is if all of Linebrink's salary is cleared from the White Sox ledgers or if the marginal prosepct develops. The move doesn't improve the Sox bullpen. I don't think the White Sox "fleeced" the Braves at all.

Sox are giving cash to Braves. December just started. They'll figure it out. :rolleyes:

Risk
12-03-2010, 01:54 PM
Addition by subtraction. Even though I'm terrified right now of the condition of the bullpen, Linebrink hasn't been good since the second half of 08' and wasn't looking like he was going to get better.

Risk

DirtySox
12-03-2010, 01:55 PM
Linebrink may do well with the Braves. Meanwhile, the White Sox are forced to rebuilding their bullpen, practically from scratch. If the Sox sign free agent middle relievers who have had success in the past, they may end up paying as much for them and may get about what they could have expected out of Linebrink.

The only way the Sox benefit from this deal is if all of Linebrink's salary is cleared from the White Sox ledgers or if the marginal prosepct develops. The move doesn't improve the Sox bullpen. I don't think the White Sox "fleeced" the Braves at all.

Are you for real?

It was clearly a joke. The move was a salary dump pure and simple. Have you liked any of the moves Kenny has made this offseason?

Pablo_Honey
12-03-2010, 01:56 PM
Damn, if only we could've gotten rid of Linebrink without giving up cash, this deal would have been amazing. Linebrink may be a veteran relief arm but he was so bad that Ozzie could only use him in pressure-free spots. So yeah, addition by subtraction.

JB98
12-03-2010, 02:01 PM
Definitely addition by subtraction. Linebrink can't pitch in pressure spots and he will not be missed.

I am wondering who the Sox are going to have in their bullpen next season. Thornton, Santos and ????? :scratch:

Noneck
12-03-2010, 02:02 PM
How good this deal is, depends on how much of his contract the Sox had to salt and pepper.

doublem23
12-03-2010, 02:02 PM
Are you for real?

It was clearly a joke. The move was a salary dump pure and simple. Have you liked any of the moves Kenny has made this offseason?

Oh, he's still recovering from yesterday's devastating news that the Sox signed a DH whose an offense-first, defense-second kind of player. After all, the 1927 Portland Seals didn't need any "HR-or-nothing" players like Adam Dunn and they only finished 4 games behind the Hollywood Stars in the Pacific Coast League that year. WINNING FORMULA.

hi im skot
12-03-2010, 02:02 PM
Linebrink may do well with the Braves. Meanwhile, the White Sox are forced to rebuilding their bullpen, practically from scratch. If the Sox sign free agent middle relievers who have had success in the past, they may end up paying as much for them and may get about what they could have expected out of Linebrink.

The only way the Sox benefit from this deal is if all of Linebrink's salary is cleared from the White Sox ledgers or if the marginal prosepct develops. The move doesn't improve the Sox bullpen. I don't think the White Sox "fleeced" the Braves at all.

Linebrink was a horrible fit. Time for a change of scenery for both parties.

DirtySox
12-03-2010, 02:03 PM
Supposedly the Sox are sending over $1.5 million. Still need further confirmation though.

CHISOXFAN13
12-03-2010, 02:04 PM
Supposedly the Sox are sending over $1.5 million. Still need further confirmation though.

So $4 million in salary relief. That's a pretty damn good deal right there.

Lip Man 1
12-03-2010, 02:05 PM
T-Dog:

There are a number of adequate middle relief pitchers on the market right now, with more to come in the next few weeks.

I'm sure for a reasonable offer two or three would like the chance to pitch for a team that won 88 games last season and has improved.

Kenny absolutely made a monster mistake with his bullpen in 2007 (young kids, hard throwers with little or no track record of success at any level...)...he won't make the same mistake twice...not with the money that's already invested.

Lip

soltrain21
12-03-2010, 02:08 PM
So $4 million in salary relief. That's a pretty damn good deal right there.

Pays for AJ.

WizardsofOzzie
12-03-2010, 02:10 PM
I'm reminded of this cartoon from 2009

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http://www.flickr.com/photos/28450386@N03/3640386119/

VenturaFan23
12-03-2010, 02:11 PM
All Hail Kenny! :worship:

DirtySox
12-03-2010, 02:12 PM
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A Major Leauge source said the #Braves (http://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23Braves) will receive $1.5 million from the White Sox to help account for Linebrink's $5.5 mil. salary.
19 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/#%21/mlbbowman/status/10768394810826752)

TheOldRoman
12-03-2010, 02:17 PM
Kenny, you magnificent bastard!

SoxGirl4Life
12-03-2010, 02:22 PM
awesome deal! They're paying 4 mil? lmao

esbrechtel
12-03-2010, 02:22 PM
eh, in the Braves defense maybe he will be better against the NL....or maybe not...

RedHeadPaleHoser
12-03-2010, 02:24 PM
I'm back. No signing. :angry:

KW is a miserable no good lazy bastard. :tongue:

On a side note, did see this gem from Phil Rogers. Of course, he mentions the Cubs as being suitors for Konerko and how the Sox will still be in a three team race because the Tigers will be better or as good, even though the Sox won 8 more games last year. :scratch:

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/12/your-morning-phil-thome-konerko-miller.html

MtGrnwdSoxFan
12-03-2010, 02:24 PM
Kenny is the ****ING MAN.

This has been the greatest two days of non-post-championship offseason in history.

If he trades Teahen, I'm building him a statue personally.

spawn
12-03-2010, 02:27 PM
On a side note, did see this gem from Phil Rogers. Of course, he mentions the Cubs as being suitors for Konerko and how the Sox will still be in a three team race because the Tigers will be better or as good, even though the Sox won 8 more games last year. :scratch:

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/12/your-morning-phil-thome-konerko-miller.html
The funny thing about his article is he said Victor Martinez chose the Tigers over the White Sox, even though the Sox never offered Martinez a contract. The guy is a joke.

PalehosePlanet
12-03-2010, 02:29 PM
Linebrink may do well with the Braves. Meanwhile, the White Sox are forced to rebuilding their bullpen, practically from scratch. If the Sox sign free agent middle relievers who have had success in the past, they may end up paying as much for them and may get about what they could have expected out of Linebrink.

The only way the Sox benefit from this deal is if all of Linebrink's salary is cleared from the White Sox ledgers or if the marginal prosepct develops. The move doesn't improve the Sox bullpen. I don't think the White Sox "fleeced" the Braves at all.

TDog, are you kidding? Just for a quick example we could sign say....DJ Carasco and Joel Peralta for a million each and still have 2 million left. Both would be more useful than Linebrink.

asindc
12-03-2010, 02:33 PM
Linebrink may do well with the Braves. Meanwhile, the White Sox are forced to rebuilding their bullpen, practically from scratch. If the Sox sign free agent middle relievers who have had success in the past, they may end up paying as much for them and may get about what they could have expected out of Linebrink.

The only way the Sox benefit from this deal is if all of Linebrink's salary is cleared from the White Sox ledgers or if the marginal prosepct develops. The move doesn't improve the Sox bullpen. I don't think the White Sox "fleeced" the Braves at all.

Whether that's true or not, that's not the point of this move (much like trading Vazquez to the Braves). The simple fact of the matter is that Linebrink proved over 2.5 seasons that he could not be consistently relied upon in crucial situations, a very critical component to his job. Even if KW ends up spending the same amount on a different reliever, it is worth trying to find that different reliever over keeping Linebrink knowing what he had contributed.

PalehosePlanet
12-03-2010, 02:35 PM
The funny thing about his article is he said Victor Martinez chose the Tigers over the White Sox, even though the Sox never offered Martinez a contract. The guy is a joke.

He signed w/Detroit because Miggy Cabrera is a good friend of his and he talked him into it. Just like JJ Putz didn't even look around last year and immediately signed with us because of his friendship w/Matt Thornton.

Rogers always tries to make us look like asses.

TDog
12-03-2010, 02:38 PM
TDog, are you kidding? Just for a quick example we could sign say....DJ Carasco and Joel Peralta for a million each and still have 2 million left. Both would be more useful than Linebrink.

Finding pitchers who perform as well as you expect them to when you sign them is a trick in building a bullpen. Linebrink was a great signing even a couple of months into his first season.

cleanwsox
12-03-2010, 02:39 PM
The best $1.5 sunk cost ever spent by a MLB team in history.

hi im skot
12-03-2010, 02:40 PM
Finding pitchers who perform as well as you expect them to when you sign them is a trick in building a bullpen. Linebrink was a great signing even a couple of months into his first season.

And then he completely lost it.

What's your point?

ChiSoxGal85
12-03-2010, 02:41 PM
I'm back. No signing. :angry:

How about the Braves picking up $4 mill of Linebrink's $5.5 mil salary? That's pretty good news!!! :D:

Kenny is the ****ING MAN.

This has been the greatest two days of non-post-championship offseason in history.

If he trades Teahen, I'm building him a statue personally.

Kenny has made it very difficult for me to get any work done these past 2 days!!! :gulp:

Pablo_Honey
12-03-2010, 02:47 PM
Kenny has made it very difficult for me to get any work done these past 2 days!!! :gulp:
Oh absolutely. Got an exam in a few days, but screw that, the Sox just signed Adam Dunn and got rid of Scott Linebrink!

RedHeadPaleHoser
12-03-2010, 02:49 PM
How about the Braves picking up $4 mill of Linebrink's $5.5 mil salary? That's pretty good news!!! :D:


Again - if that $4M goes to assist in re-signing Konerko - I TAKE FULL ****ING CREDIT. :cool:

spawn
12-03-2010, 02:50 PM
Kenny has made it very difficult for me to get any work done these past 2 days!!! :gulp:
Makes me glad I'm off today. :D:

soxinem1
12-03-2010, 02:50 PM
The best $1.5 sunk cost ever spent by a MLB team in history.

It would have been even better if KW only had to send $1.5 to ATL!! :smile:

kittle42
12-03-2010, 02:50 PM
Linebrink may do well with the Braves. Meanwhile, the White Sox are forced to rebuilding their bullpen, practically from scratch. If the Sox sign free agent middle relievers who have had success in the past, they may end up paying as much for them and may get about what they could have expected out of Linebrink.

The only way the Sox benefit from this deal is if all of Linebrink's salary is cleared from the White Sox ledgers or if the marginal prosepct develops. The move doesn't improve the Sox bullpen. I don't think the White Sox "fleeced" the Braves at all.

Is TDog the new HomeFish?

kittle42
12-03-2010, 02:52 PM
Finding pitchers who perform as well as you expect them to when you sign them is a trick in building a bullpen. Linebrink was a great signing even a couple of months into his first season.

And then a horrible one from then on. What's your point, exactly?

Edit: somebody beat me to this obvious question already!

Pablo_Honey
12-03-2010, 02:54 PM
Is TDog the new HomeFish?
Eh, is HomeFish the guy that finds absurd reasons to be negative at everything the Sox does? If so, I wouldn't say TDog is on that level yet because he does have a point about our bullpen situation.

DirtySox
12-03-2010, 02:57 PM
Eh, is HomeFish the guy that finds absurd reasons to be negative at everything the Sox does? If so, I wouldn't say TDog is on that level yet because he does have a point about our bullpen situation.

The bullpen obviously needs to be addressed, but how difficult will it be to find a bad, low leverage, mop-up guy for cheap? Linebrink is the definition of replaceable.

EMel9281
12-03-2010, 02:59 PM
I am glad to see Linebrink gone, however, the Sox now have 3 holes in the bullpen. Not that Linebrink was used much last year. It's been an exciting couple of days and I hope the ride isn't over yet...

hi im skot
12-03-2010, 02:59 PM
I am glad to see Linebrink gone, however, the Sox now have 3 holes in the bullpen. Not that Linebrink was used much last year. It's been an exciting couple of days and I hope the ride isn't over yet...

Linebrink was a hole in the bullpen when he was on the team...

Pablo_Honey
12-03-2010, 03:00 PM
The bullpen obviously needs to be addressed, but how difficult will it be to find a bad, low leverage, mop-up guy for cheap? Linebrink is the definition of replaceable.
Oh I know and I fully agree. I'm just saying TDog isn't entirely out of place saying that this move creates a "hole" on this team. Of course, this "hole" should be easy to fill and even give us an option to improve the pen by getting better options at that spot.

kittle42
12-03-2010, 03:00 PM
Eh, is HomeFish the guy that finds absurd reasons to be negative at everything the Sox does? If so, I wouldn't say TDog is on that level yet because he does have a point about our bullpen situation.

What, that we need at least 3 relievers? We all know that. We still needed at least 3 when we had Linebrink. He's terrible.

I do also agree with him that the Dunn signing is not nearly as significant without keeping Konerko or adding another bat of that type.

Moses_Scurry
12-03-2010, 03:01 PM
I am glad to see Linebrink gone, however, the Sox now have 3 holes in the bullpen. Not that Linebrink was used much last year. It's been an exciting couple of days and I hope the ride isn't over yet...

Not so. I'm sure Kyle Cofield could easily be a gascan in the bullpen. They had 3 holes in the bullpen before this trade.

bestkosher
12-03-2010, 03:01 PM
His numbers can easily be replaced by AAA fodder but there are many options out there and bullpen help is so often a crapshoot anyways.

doublem23
12-03-2010, 03:03 PM
Finding pitchers who perform as well as you expect them to when you sign them is a trick in building a bullpen. Linebrink was a great signing even a couple of months into his first season.

And he's been awful for the 2 1/2 seasons that followed those 3 good months. Not a great ratio.

Jpgr91
12-03-2010, 03:04 PM
I'm very happy that KW was able to get rid of Linebrink. However, lets not forget that a lot of baseball people thought KW was making a significant reach when he gave Linebrink the contract. Before we start giving KW significant credit, lets not forget he is the one that got the Sox into the mess in the first place.

doublem23
12-03-2010, 03:08 PM
Eh, is HomeFish the guy that finds absurd reasons to be negative at everything the Sox does? If so, I wouldn't say TDog is on that level yet because he does have a point about our bullpen situation.

Not really, as kittle said, we have just as many holes in the bullpen as we did yesterday, only now that hole Linebrink was creating is open to competition instead of being stuck with a worthless pitcher that we can't get rid of because he has a guaranteed MLB contract.

asindc
12-03-2010, 03:09 PM
I'm very happy that KW was able to get rid of Linebrink. However, lets not forget that a lot of baseball people thought KW was making a significant reach when he gave Linebrink the contract. Before we start giving KW significant credit, lets not forget he is the one that got the Sox into the mess in the first place.

KW has said many, many times from the very beginning that he knew he was overpaying Linebrink and Dotel and was upset that the market forced his hand. It's not like he said, "Cool, we got Linebrink for a good price!"

Pablo_Honey
12-03-2010, 03:17 PM
What, that we need at least 3 relievers? We all know that. We still needed at least 3 when we had Linebrink. He's terrible.

Not really, as kittle said, we have just as many holes in the bullpen as we did yesterday, only now that hole Linebrink was creating is open to competition instead of being stuck with a worthless pitcher that we can't get rid of because he has a guaranteed MLB contract.
Yes, I agree on that point. I was merely trying to see it from TDog's point of view. Technically, yes, this trade gives Kenny another spot on the bullpen to fill this offseason. However, like you guys and basically everyone have already brought up, addressing this opening left by Linebrink being traded should be very easy to fill.

hawkjt
12-03-2010, 03:27 PM
At Dunn's presser,Kenny lauded Dunn and AJ for their willingness to defer some money to later in their contract so space could be freed up for a bid for PK.

Kenny also reiterated in the presser that the Sox do not have to dump a big salary to fit in these moves,including PK.

In other words, this payroll is going up significantly....as Kenny said...Jerry and his management team have scrapped up more revenue this fall to fit everyone in....more ad revenue,ect.

Sweeetttttt!!!!

WhiteSox5187
12-03-2010, 03:38 PM
Why anyone would want Linebrink is beyond me, but good job just getting that trade done.

konerko 14
12-03-2010, 04:06 PM
YESSSSSS!!:bandance::bandance: This is almost better than getting Dunn

GlassSox
12-03-2010, 04:14 PM
Yes! I love it. Goodbye Mr Linebrink.

DirtySox
12-03-2010, 04:36 PM
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#Braves (http://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23Braves) are getting more than $2.5 mill from #White (http://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23White) Sox to offset Linebrink's $5.5 mill salary, not the previously reported $1.5 mill
4 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/#%21/ajcbraves/status/10808463978401792)


:(:

The Immigrant
12-03-2010, 04:38 PM
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ajcbraves (http://twitter.com/#%21/ajcbraves) David O'Brien
#Braves (http://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23Braves) are getting more than $2.5 mill from #White (http://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23White) Sox to offset Linebrink's $5.5 mill salary, not the previously reported $1.5 mill
4 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/#%21/ajcbraves/status/10808463978401792)


:(:

It's still a great deal for the Sox.

Red Barchetta
12-03-2010, 04:40 PM
If somebody wanted Scott Linebrink, we will get rid of Mark Teahen.


Damn, Wren was on fire with Uggla. He put it out now. :D:


....please don't tease me about the possibility of moving Teahen. Cubs could use a "good" utility guy right?! :cool:

Red Barchetta
12-03-2010, 04:41 PM
Why anyone would want Linebrink is beyond me, but good job just getting that trade done.

...because the other team always thinks they can fix em'. :D:

spongyfungy
12-03-2010, 04:48 PM
...because the other team always thinks they can fix em'. :D:

I bet the Braves can. He'll have an ERA at or below 3.5

doublem23
12-03-2010, 04:51 PM
Why anyone would want Linebrink is beyond me

Somebody's got to throw BP

Corlose 15
12-03-2010, 05:02 PM
I don't think the amount of money they send Atlanta's way really matters all that much because, based on some comments I've seen from KW about KW, this isn't a payroll dumping move. They have the money to sign PK, and a potential bullpen arm without having to move anybody else.

KRS1
12-03-2010, 05:13 PM
I know Teahen has been the whipping boy because of the contract the sox gave him and his less than stellar year in 2010. However I still think is a good piece to a good ballclub, like a Mark DeRosa type. He can play 1B, 2B, 3B and the corner OF spots and is a left handed gap power guy. He should not be starting but play a utility role. If we get something needed for him fine....but I still think he can be a valuable piece to the team.

EDI: Glad to be rid of Liney though...

I'm inclined to agree. A lot of the hate is about the situation he was brought into, which he had no control over. He's not the starting third baseman that we moved Bacon to second for and he didn't earn his contract. However, he's very well suited for a super sub in this league if he can work on his D. Having him on our bench makes us a better team.

PaleHoser
12-03-2010, 05:15 PM
Kenny Williams = Jedi.

Double-checking my calendar to make sure it's not April 1st. Nope, but Christmas came early for me this year, courtesy of KW. :gulp:

chisox12
12-03-2010, 05:20 PM
:d::d::d::d::d:

DirtySox
12-03-2010, 05:23 PM
http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/934235221/Maria2_normal.jpg
scottmerkin (http://twitter.com/#%21/scottmerkin) Scott Merkin
Just to be clear from earlier Tweet, White Sox saved $2 million off the $5.5 million owed to Linebrink in the trade. So you can do the math
38 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/#%21/scottmerkin/status/10811593751269376)

wassagstdu
12-03-2010, 05:41 PM
I would have been a lot happier if Linebrink had performed as expected -- though not as happy as Linebrink himself no doubt -- but it is great to see him move on. I honestly hope he has a great year for the Braves.

Zakath
12-03-2010, 05:58 PM
There is a God after all...

PalehosePlanet
12-03-2010, 05:59 PM
http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/934235221/Maria2_normal.jpg
scottmerkin (http://twitter.com/#%21/scottmerkin) Scott Merkin
Just to be clear from earlier Tweet, White Sox saved $2 million off the $5.5 million owed to Linebrink in the trade. So you can do the math
38 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/#%21/scottmerkin/status/10811593751269376)

That makes more sense -- from The Braves end. I figured we'd have to pay at least half the remaining money.

shingo10
12-03-2010, 07:18 PM
This might be the only move in Sox history that everyone seems happy about.

soxfanreggie
12-03-2010, 07:24 PM
This might be the only move in Sox history that everyone seems happy about.

I am certainly happy about this!

spawn
12-03-2010, 07:31 PM
This might be the only move in Sox history that everyone seems happy about.
Not everyone (http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=2656248&postcount=29).

Noneck
12-03-2010, 07:32 PM
This might be the only move in Sox history that everyone seems happy about.


As the amount the Sox had to eat increases, the less this deal excites me.

shingo10
12-03-2010, 08:07 PM
Not everyone (http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=2656248&postcount=29).

As the amount the Sox had to eat increases, the less this deal excites me.

Whoops, guess I spoke too soon. Well maybe if/when the Sox get rid of Teahan everyone will be happy about that.

Pablo_Honey
12-03-2010, 08:14 PM
Whoops, guess I spoke too soon. Well maybe if/when the Sox get rid of Teahan everyone will be happy about that.
I wouldn't bank on that. Somebody will find a reason to complain about the trade, be it needing someone to replace Teahen's spot, or the amount of money we gave up, or the return on the trade, etc.

Noneck
12-03-2010, 08:19 PM
Whoops, guess I spoke too soon. Well maybe if/when the Sox get rid of Teahan everyone will be happy about that.

Sorry, I get excited when the savings is used for a need, not just received.

TDog
12-03-2010, 09:40 PM
Not everyone (http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=2656248&postcount=29).

The Sox will pay Linebrink more than $3 million in 2011, and he won't pitch for them at all. Maybe the Sox will find a pitcher who does better in his place. Maybe they won't.

I don't see any reason to be "excited" about saving $2 million and creating another spot to fill in the bullpen. There is a chance that Talking Baseball will have thread on how well Linebrink is doing with the Braves (with the White Sox playing most of his salary). Of course, that will only happen if he does well, and some people don't believe that will be possible. But the prospect of such threads doesn't excite me either.

hi im skot
12-03-2010, 09:42 PM
Not everyone (http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=2656248&postcount=29).

If the Sox got mid-90s Ken Griffey, Jr. TDog would complain about him wearing his cap backwards.

Tragg
12-03-2010, 09:46 PM
I know Teahen has been the whipping boy because of the contract the sox gave him and his less than stellar year in 2010. However I still think is a good piece to a good ballclub, like a Mark DeRosa type. He can play 1B, 2B, 3B and the corner OF spots and is a left handed gap power guy. He should not be starting but play a utility role. If we get something needed for him fine....but I still think he can be a valuable piece to the team.

EDI: Glad to be rid of Liney though...
I agree. His contract is a sunk cost. Let's use him as best we can....as a utility infielder. And Williams has chased a lot of utility talent over the years....well, we have one.

TDog
12-03-2010, 09:52 PM
If the Sox got mid-90s Ken Griffey, Jr. TDog would complain about him wearing his cap backwards.

That is a ridiculous assessment of my position. Nobody has expressed excitement about who the White Sox are getting in the trade. People are just happy to have Linebrink off the team regardless of the possibility that he could well be replaced by someone less effective for most of the money the Sox are saving by trading Linebrink.

This may turn out to be a good move, but right now there is no way to tell. There is no reason to get excited.

The White Sox will still be paying most of Linebrink's salary.

SOXSINCE'70
12-03-2010, 10:09 PM
:bandance::bandance::bandance:

anewman35
12-03-2010, 10:10 PM
That is a ridiculous assessment of my position. Nobody has expressed excitement about who the White Sox are getting in the trade. People are just happy to have Linebrink off the team regardless of the possibility that he could well be replaced by someone less effective for most of the money the Sox are saving by trading Linebrink.

This may turn out to be a good move, but right now there is no way to tell. There is no reason to get excited.

The White Sox will still be paying most of Linebrink's salary.

Based on the last few seasons, there was little reason to think Linebrink would be a useful part of the team. There's little chance that whoever we get to replace him would be any worse (and if he was, he likely wouldn't be pitching in situations that mattered anyway). Even if the team wasn't saving any money, I'd take my chances with any other pitcher besides Linebrink. Saving the money is just a bonus. That's very exciting.

thomas35forever
12-03-2010, 10:38 PM
Good riddance. That's all I have to say. I'm glad we were able to get more than a bag of balls for him.

mcsoxfan
12-03-2010, 11:42 PM
Linebrink may do well with the Braves. Meanwhile, the White Sox are forced to rebuilding their bullpen, practically from scratch. If the Sox sign free agent middle relievers who have had success in the past, they may end up paying as much for them and may get about what they could have expected out of Linebrink.

The only way the Sox benefit from this deal is if all of Linebrink's salary is cleared from the White Sox ledgers or if the marginal prosepct develops. The move doesn't improve the Sox bullpen. I don't think the White Sox "fleeced" the Braves at all.

I think it's referred to as addition by subtraction.

MountainCur
12-03-2010, 11:58 PM
Kudos to KW for getting $2m or whatever off the payroll.

I do wish we could have gotten a better prospect - Atlanta seems full of them - but beggars cannot be choosers, and I take this deal in a heartbeat.

Brian26
12-04-2010, 12:26 AM
That is a ridiculous assessment of my position. Nobody has expressed excitement about who the White Sox are getting in the trade. People are just happy to have Linebrink off the team regardless of the possibility that he could well be replaced by someone less effective for most of the money the Sox are saving by trading Linebrink.

This may turn out to be a good move, but right now there is no way to tell. There is no reason to get excited.

The White Sox will still be paying most of Linebrink's salary.

Basically, the Sox were able to re-sign Pierzynski for the $2 million saved in the Linebrink deal. What do they lose in terms of pitching? Linebrink has essentially been the 6th man out of the bullpen for the past two years. He can be replaced for the league minimum, with the same if not better effectiveness, by any number of guys in Charlotte. There's nothing to do but applaud this move. The Sox lost their overpaid mop-up man in the bullpen.

FielderJones
12-04-2010, 12:30 AM
People are just happy to have Linebrink off the team regardless of the possibility that he could well be replaced by someone less effective for most of the money the Sox are saving by trading Linebrink.


Not possible. There is no pitcher in MLB less effective than Linebrink that the Sox would sign. Not having him as a bullpen option has already made the bullpen better.

ode to veeck
12-09-2010, 08:56 AM
why couldn't we have traded him to the Twinkies?!

FielderJones
12-09-2010, 10:54 AM
why couldn't we have traded him to the Twinkies?!

Kenny might be a Jedi, but even the Twins would see that Linebrink is not the droid they were looking for.