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Sockinchisox
12-02-2010, 06:50 PM
Cowley has it buried in his Dunn story..

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/2940702,white-sox-adam-dunn-deal-120210.article

chunk
12-02-2010, 06:53 PM
Flowers certainly doesn't look ready, better hope they go after someone like Olivo.

soltrain21
12-02-2010, 07:05 PM
Flowers certainly doesn't look ready, better hope they go after someone like Olivo.

Bring back Widger.

Seriously. I'd be very happy with an Olivo signing.

DirtySox
12-02-2010, 07:07 PM
Seriously. I'd be very happy with an Olivo signing.

Same on Olivo.

I'm not buying it just yet though. Cowley buried it in his Dunn article, and noone else is reporting this yet. The Jays also have 2 capable backstops in Molina and Arencibia.

LoveYourSuit
12-02-2010, 07:34 PM
I too want a new face behind the plate.

Give me Olivo.

Just what do you think would have happened last year had it been Olivo at the plate instead of AJ with the Delmon Young incident?

AJ is an all talk no action coward in my book.

Boondock Saint
12-02-2010, 07:42 PM
I too want a new face behind the plate.

Give me Olivo.

Just what do you think would have happened last year had it been Olivo at the plate instead of AJ with the Delmon Young incident?

AJ is an all talk no action coward in my book.

Absence really does make the heart grow fonder.

Over By There
12-02-2010, 07:46 PM
A lot of people talking about Olivo... didn't he and Ozzie part on bad terms, or am I making that up?

BigHurt3515
12-02-2010, 08:00 PM
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/12/blue-jays-close-to-signing-aj-pierzynski.html

Cant believe nobody saw this

DickAllen72
12-02-2010, 08:00 PM
A lot of people talking about Olivo... didn't he and Ozzie part on bad terms, or am I making that up?
I don't remember them parting on bad terms, at least not on Miguel's part. He even cried when he was told he was traded.

But I do remember Ozzie said some crap about him a year or two later (can't remember exactly what it was) and Miguel responding that he was never aware of any problem while he was with the Sox and was somewhat surprised by Ozzie's comments.

However, it has been stated many times that pitchers don't like throwing to him.

I like Olivo but I doubt the Sox would want to entrust their gazillion dollar rotation to him behind the plate. I hope they bring back AJ.

DickAllen72
12-02-2010, 08:01 PM
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/12/blue-jays-close-to-signing-aj-pierzynski.html

Cant believe nobody saw this
Who listens to Cowley?

Over By There
12-02-2010, 08:04 PM
Thanks, glad someone else remembers something along those lines. I did a search trying to refresh my memory and didn't turn up much, although it was kind of funny seeing threads in 2004 bemoaning the way Olivo's successors were handling the pitching staff and how the trade was a bust. Boy, the aftermath of that trade was epic at WSI.

Thome25
12-02-2010, 08:10 PM
It would hurt to see AJ go. :whiner::whiner::whiner:

I count him among my top 5 all time favorite White Sox players along with Fisk, Thome, Robin, and Hurt.

WhiteSox5187
12-02-2010, 08:18 PM
Tyler Flowers is not a major league catcher, they better find someone else to replace AJ if he leaves.

DirtySox
12-02-2010, 08:22 PM
Tyler Flowers is not a major league catcher, they better find someone else to replace AJ if he leaves.

Why do you keep stating this with such authority? Do you have some sources that we don't?

Brian26
12-02-2010, 08:24 PM
If AJ leaves, I bet Olivo comes back.

WhiteSox5187
12-02-2010, 08:24 PM
Why do you keep stating this with such authority? Do you have some sources that we don't?

The scouting reports I have read have said so and a couple of scouts and other front office personnel I have talked to have said as much.

DirtySox
12-02-2010, 08:30 PM
The scouting reports I have read have said so and a couple of scouts and other front office personnel I have talked to have said as much.

If the front office as you say is so adamant that Tyler Flowers can't play catcher, why are you worrying about them even entertaining the thought of him as an option next year?

Stoky44
12-02-2010, 08:35 PM
wow i am surprised by this, the jays already have molina and what seems to be a "good" prospect already at catcher. I can't see the jays giving aj many (more than 1) years either. I wonder what the terms are, and if the sox had the chance to match it? I wonder if this is really true or Cowley BS.

cws05champ
12-02-2010, 08:39 PM
Just give me someone that can throw out some runners, call a good game and hit .220 with an occasional HR. If PK and Dunn are both in the fold our catchers offense should be a secondary thought.

WhiteSox5187
12-02-2010, 08:41 PM
If the front office as you say is so adamant that Tyler Flowers can't play catcher, why are you worrying about them even entertaining the thought of him as an option next year?

Because the scouts and front office people in question do not work for the White Sox.

Noneck
12-02-2010, 08:43 PM
Just give me someone that can throw out some runners, call a good game and hit .220 with an occasional HR. If PK and Dunn are both in the fold our catchers offense should be a secondary thought.

I thought Donnie Lucy could provide that but the Sox didnt.

gr8mexico
12-02-2010, 08:48 PM
Isn't Miguel Olivo a better option then A.J anyways?
Olivo played in 30 less games then A.J and had more HR's then A.J and has a WAY!! Better arm then A.J
Come on Kenny lets get Olivo in

Daver
12-02-2010, 08:58 PM
A lot of people talking about Olivo... didn't he and Ozzie part on bad terms, or am I making that up?

Don Cooper and his pitching staff are the ones that didn't care for Olivo.

LoveYourSuit
12-02-2010, 09:07 PM
Don Cooper and his pitching staff are the ones that didn't care for Olivo.


When the starting rotation is getting paid the amount $$$ this one is, they better be able to throw to a carboard cut out and still be good.

keloms
12-02-2010, 09:10 PM
From Ken Rosenthal

http://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/

Sources: Pierzynski is NOT close to signing with #BlueJays (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23BlueJays). #WhiteSox (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23WhiteSox) still appear in mix. #MLB (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23MLB)

johnnyg83
12-02-2010, 09:10 PM
Olivo's been bouncing around a lot. If a catcher with that bat and arm can't stick anywhere something's up. KC's complaint was that he was an awful "glove' catcher (lots of BPs) and clueles behind the plate except for when there was a runner on first.

WhiteSox5187
12-02-2010, 09:16 PM
From Ken Rosenthal

http://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/

That's good news. Of course, the best possible catcher for us might actually be Donny Lucy.

DirtySox
12-02-2010, 09:17 PM
That's good news. Of course, the best possible catcher for us might actually be Donny Lucy.

The one that was released?

Daver
12-02-2010, 09:18 PM
When the starting rotation is getting paid the amount $$$ this one is, they better be able to throw to a carboard cut out and still be good.

You are wasting the money spent on starting pitching if they have no confidence in the guy behind the plate.

DuckSnort
12-02-2010, 09:19 PM
New update:

Ken_Rosenthal Ken Rosenthal
Sources: Pierzynski back with #White Sox. Hearing deal is two years, $8 million, though that is unconfirmed.

JermaineDye05
12-02-2010, 09:20 PM
Rosenthal says AJ is back with sox for 2 years 8 million

Sources: Pierzynski back with #White (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23White) Sox. Hearing deal is two years, $8 million, though that is unconfirmed. #MLB (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23MLB) #BlueJays (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23BlueJays) 3 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/10532977134014464) via web Retweeted by 27 people
http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/533041789/Kenny_bigger.jpg (http://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal)
Ken_Rosenthal (http://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal)

DirtySox
12-02-2010, 09:20 PM
New update:

Ken_Rosenthal Ken Rosenthal
Sources: Pierzynski back with #White Sox. Hearing deal is two years, $8 million, though that is unconfirmed.

Hopefully the years are wrong. 2 years of a declining catcher could get ugly.

1 and an option please!

stevemcstud
12-02-2010, 09:22 PM
Sources: Pierzynski back with #White Sox. Hearing deal is two years, $8 million, though that is unconfirmed. #MLB #BlueJays

Per his Twitter

rdwj
12-02-2010, 09:23 PM
What a great day to be a Sox fan! LOVE AJ - glad to have him back

spawn
12-02-2010, 09:23 PM
Rosenthal says AJ is back with sox for 2 years 8 million

Sources: Pierzynski back with #White (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23White) Sox. Hearing deal is two years, $8 million, though that is unconfirmed. #MLB (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23MLB) #BlueJays (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23BlueJays) 3 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/10532977134014464) via web Retweeted by 27 people
http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/533041789/Kenny_bigger.jpg (http://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal)
Ken_Rosenthal (http://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal) I won't believe anything until Oney tweets it.

Marqhead
12-02-2010, 09:23 PM
Good? I'm on the fence on this one.

DirtySox
12-02-2010, 09:25 PM
Needs more confirmation.

beasly213
12-02-2010, 09:25 PM
I'm guessing him hearing the Sox signed Dunn made him want to come back instead of getting killed in the AL East with the Jays.

gr8mexico
12-02-2010, 09:25 PM
New update:

Ken_Rosenthal Ken Rosenthal
Sources: Pierzynski back with #White Sox. Hearing deal is two years, $8 million, though that is unconfirmed.
:(:

salty99
12-02-2010, 09:25 PM
I love it!

DirtySox
12-02-2010, 09:26 PM
http://a0.twimg.com/profile_images/190827556/jon_heyman_normal.jpg
SI_JonHeyman (http://twitter.com/#%21/SI_JonHeyman) Jon Heyman
big day on south side: pierzynski back with #chisox (http://twitter.com/#%21/search?q=%23chisox), confirming @Ken_Rosenthal (http://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal) report. it is indeed $8 mil for 2 yrs, i hear.
8 seconds ago (http://twitter.com/#%21/SI_JonHeyman/status/10535125141954560)


Yuck.

Sockinchisox
12-02-2010, 09:26 PM
Heyman says it's 2 yr/8 mil as well.

http://twitter.com/#!/SI_JonHeyman/status/10535125141954560

KRS1
12-02-2010, 09:26 PM
Good? I'm on the fence on this one.

Yes, but I'm a big believer in AJ's intangibles. If you care to eliminate the bias about whether ___ likes him and the things he does... Considering the alternatives, it's great.

DirtySox
12-02-2010, 09:27 PM
On the bright side, this has to bode well for signing Konerko.

kevingrt
12-02-2010, 09:27 PM
Great signing. Next one is PK. I am getting super excited for a super old 2011 White Sox team.

Thome25
12-02-2010, 09:27 PM
I'd be glad to have AJ back...I think we need two lefties in our lineup.....what would that do to a possible Konerko deal though?

gr8mexico
12-02-2010, 09:27 PM
I won't believe anything until Oney tweets it.
:wink:

DirtySox
12-02-2010, 09:28 PM
I'd be glad to have AJ back...I think we need two lefties in our lineup.....what would that do to a possible Konerko deal though?

Kenny was stating that AJ was on the backburner in favor of Paulie. I would imagine this deal wouldn't be made if it prevents a PK signing.

WhiteSox5187
12-02-2010, 09:28 PM
The one that was released?

I thought he was just removed from the 40 man roster, not flat out released. If he was released that would be too bad.

Milw
12-02-2010, 09:29 PM
Per Jon Heyman, Chuck Garfien and Ken Rosenthal. 2 years, $8m

DirtySox
12-02-2010, 09:29 PM
More:

http://a2.twimg.com/profile_images/1170850498/DSCN1905_normal.JPG
ChuckGarfien (http://twitter.com/#%21/ChuckGarfien) Chuck Garfien
AJ Pierzynski has re-signed with the White Sox. Confirmed. Source close to the negotiations. 2 years, $8 million.
55 seconds ago (http://twitter.com/#%21/ChuckGarfien/status/10535657982132224)

spawn
12-02-2010, 09:29 PM
http://mimg.ugo.com/200810/23440/bluesbrothers.jpg

C'mon Paulie. We're gettin' the band back together!

DirtySox
12-02-2010, 09:30 PM
I thought he was just removed from the 40 man roster, not flat out released. If he was released that would be too bad.

He gone.

Marqhead
12-02-2010, 09:30 PM
Yes, but I'm a big believer in AJ's intangibles. If you care to eliminate the bias about whether ___ likes him and the things he does... Considering the alternatives, it's great.

I agree with you, and it's better than certain options. AJ loves it here, from everything I understand his teammates love him, and the fans love him. He's still got a decent bat and is great with the staff.

Money isn't too bad, I'll take it.

Thome25
12-02-2010, 09:31 PM
Yes, but I'm a big believer in AJ's intangibles. If you care to eliminate the bias about whether ___ likes him and the things he does... Considering the alternatives, it's great.

I agree with this 100%. He brings so much to the table. He's a gamer. He gets under the opposition's skin. He calls a good game. He's a veteran leader in the clubhouse and outside of it.

Count me as one of the people who's glad to have him back.

DirtySox
12-02-2010, 09:31 PM
Kenny, now announce the PK signing. Thanks.

doublem23
12-02-2010, 09:34 PM
We just got to get Jon, Jose, Jermaine, Tadahito, Scotty Pods, and Rowand and it will all fall into place.

Thome25
12-02-2010, 09:34 PM
Kenny, now announce the PK signing. Thanks.

This.

With a lineup including Dunn and Konerko. With AJ back and the Starting pitching we have. I'm expecting them to make a big run in 2011.

LoveYourSuit
12-02-2010, 09:34 PM
Way too many moments of being a dog on the field last year. Not running out grounders and pop ups. Throwing equipment. He's a child.

Not excited about this one. Or perhaps winning will cure his baby behavior.

spawn
12-02-2010, 09:35 PM
Something else that is confirmed: Cowley's sources suck. How do you go from "Close to signing with the Blue Jays" to less that 6 hours later AJ re-signing with the Sox? And HELLO...Oney??? What about the leaks in the organization? Why didn't YOU report this? :rolling:

doublem23
12-02-2010, 09:36 PM
Money isn't too bad, I'll take it.

Considering some of the cash being thrown around at some FA C, 2 years, $4 M per year isn't that bad at all.

kevingrt
12-02-2010, 09:36 PM
http://mimg.ugo.com/200810/23440/bluesbrothers.jpg

C'mon Paulie. We're gettin' the band back together!

:rowand

"Did someone call my name?"

:crede

"I'm still not healthy gosh darnit!"

Lip Man 1
12-02-2010, 09:37 PM
Spawn:

You beat me to it on the "Blues Brothers" quote.

This is getting interesting. JR is obviously changing his business method at least for this year (i.e. -- we spend what we take in...) or the Sox (as many have suspected) have been taking in greater income than was believed and the organization feels secure in committing more to the payroll.

Lip

Thome25
12-02-2010, 09:38 PM
Way too many moments of being a dog on the field last year. Not running out grounders and pop ups. Throwing equipment. He's a child.

Not excited about this one. Or perhaps winning will cure his baby behavior.

Go. Away. Please. Period.

Stoky44
12-02-2010, 09:39 PM
wow i am surprised by this, the jays already have molina and what seems to be a "good" prospect already at catcher. I can't see the jays giving aj many (more than 1) years either. I wonder what the terms are, and if the sox had the chance to match it? I wonder if this is really true or Cowley BS.

I thought this sounded like Cowley BS. He should have said a different team and maybe I would have believed it. I heard Cowley and AJ had a falling out this year, maybe AJ had planted some bad info Cowley's way in order to try and screw with him.

doublem23
12-02-2010, 09:39 PM
Go. Away. Please. Period.

Cool your jets, friend. Dissenting opinions are fine, as long as you agree with whatever the hell I think.

DirtySox
12-02-2010, 09:39 PM
Spawn:

You beat me to it on the "Blues Brothers" quote.

This is getting interesting. JR is obviously changing his business method at least for this year (i.e. -- we spend what we take in...) or the Sox (as many have suspected) have been taking in greater income than was believed and the organization feels secure in committing more to the payroll.

Lip

It seems to be the wise thing to do with the window starting to close on the rotation. With all that was committed to the pitching staff, you can't punt on the rest of the roster. Hopefully this continues and a PK or competent 1B signing is next.

Boondock Saint
12-02-2010, 09:40 PM
Way too many moments of being a dog on the field last year. Not running out grounders and pop ups. Throwing equipment. He's a child.

Not excited about this one. Or perhaps winning will cure his baby behavior.

Show me where there's better available.

soltrain21
12-02-2010, 09:40 PM
Go. Away. Please. Period.

I agree with him completely. So...THERE.

Thome25
12-02-2010, 09:40 PM
Cool your jets, friend. Dissenting opinions are fine, as long as you agree with whatever the hell I think.

You got it boss. :wink:

DirtySox
12-02-2010, 09:41 PM
Go. Away. Please. Period.

Eh. I don't like it either. The pouting and bat slamming gets obnoxious. Many people commented on it last season.

spawn
12-02-2010, 09:41 PM
Go. Away. Please. Period.
There is room for differing opinions on this board. You can attack his position, but telling others to go away because you don't agree with them is pretty weak.

Brian26
12-02-2010, 09:43 PM
From Ken Rosenthal

http://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/

Kenny is on a roll. Mercy.

DirtySox
12-02-2010, 09:44 PM
Show me where there's better available.

I think Olivo has comparable value. Can't say he'd definitely be better though. I wouldn't have minded Martin or Napoli, but those would have required trading prospects of sorts. Bringing back AJ isn't a sexy move, but it will likely get the job done.

LoveYourSuit
12-02-2010, 09:45 PM
Show me where there's better available.


I agree, you kind of are cornered here. I guess the Sox need AJ as much as AJ needs the Sox. Not too many people like him.

The failures of Flowers are such a dissapointment. :mad:

chisoxfanatic
12-02-2010, 09:45 PM
This.

With a lineup including Dunn and Konerko. With AJ back and the Starting pitching we have. I'm expecting them to make a big run in 2011.
X2

Here's hoping Konerko is next and that Peavy is 100% asap.

SoxSpeed22
12-02-2010, 09:45 PM
Not too many better options out there. The Sox never did want Olivo. Now he doesn't have to be a wreck for the first half of the season.

rdivaldi
12-02-2010, 09:46 PM
Eh. I don't like it either. The pouting and bat slamming gets obnoxious. Many people commented on it last season.

It got old and obnoxious because we saw waaaaaay too much of it. A.J. had a miserable season at the plate last year, one of his worst statistically. If he returns to his career averages, people won't care again.

whitem0nkey
12-02-2010, 09:46 PM
Thursday is the new Wednesday

Brian26
12-02-2010, 09:47 PM
Hopefully the years are wrong. 2 years of a declining catcher could get ugly.

1 and an option please!

80% of MLB teams have declining catchers. This deal is actually perfect. Two years is a nice contract at this point. Gives AJ a little security, but not enough to worry the Sox. $4 million a year is a pretty damn good deal for the Sox.

Boondock Saint
12-02-2010, 09:49 PM
I think Olivo has comparable value. Can't say he'd definitely be better though. I wouldn't have minded Martin or Napoli, but those would have required trading prospects of sorts. Bringing back AJ isn't a sexy move, but it will likely get the job done.

AJ has spent years catching for Buehrle, Gavin, Danks, Thornton and Linebrink. He knows these guys and what they want to do on the mound better than anyone you're going to bring in. And, if what Daver said is accurate, Olivo was traded because Coop and the pitching staff didn't like him.

Lip Man 1
12-02-2010, 09:51 PM
http://www.csnchicago.com/12/02/10/Confirmed-Pierzynski-re-signs-with-White/landing_whitesox.html?blockID=365347&feedID=661

Confirmed apparently.

Lip

spawn
12-02-2010, 09:55 PM
http://www.csnchicago.com/12/02/10/Confirmed-Pierzynski-re-signs-with-White/landing_whitesox.html?blockID=365347&feedID=661

Confirmed apparently.

Lip
:scratch: Um...that's kinda the reason this is in the Clubhouse.

DickAllen72
12-02-2010, 09:57 PM
Great to have AJ stay! :bandance::bandance::bandance:
And only $4m is quite a bargain for a catcher of AJ's ability. It's a steal just for his durability alone but he also handles the pitching staff well which is the most important thing considering the ton of money the Sox have invested in their starting pitching.

He's also a plus bat for a catcher, last year being an anomaly and even then he hit pretty well down the stretch. I believe he'll have a good year offensively now that his mind is clear from not worrying about his contract situation.

JR and KW still need to re-sign Paulie and acquire a closer and a RFer. "Don't stop now, boys!" :D:

WhiteSox5187
12-02-2010, 09:57 PM
I know that people don't like AJ, but I think this is a good move. He handles the staff well and for all the bitching about his lack of offensive production he was actually pretty productive in the second half and was one of the best hitters on the team in August.

Corlose 15
12-02-2010, 09:59 PM
Great to have AJ stay! :bandance::bandance::bandance:
And only $4m is quite a bargain for a catcher of AJ's ability. It's a steal just for his durability alone but he also handles the pitching staff well which is the most important thing considering the ton of money the Sox have invested in their starting pitching.

He's also a plus bat for a catcher, last year being an anomaly and even then he hit pretty well down the stretch. I believe he'll have a good year offensively now that his mind is clear from not worrying about his contract situation.

JR and KW still need to re-sign Paulie and acquire a closer and a RFer. "Don't stop now, boys!" :D:

Ugh, I was perfectly content with not having heard that in 3 months.

soxfanreggie
12-02-2010, 09:59 PM
80% of MLB teams have declining catchers. This deal is actually perfect. Two years is a nice contract at this point. Gives AJ a little security, but not enough to worry the Sox. $4 million a year is a pretty damn good deal for the Sox.

This is a deal that I think is good for the Sox right now. For what is available vs what we're paying him (for what he has the potential to do), I like this deal and think the lower salary and two-year length helps us. We have two years to figure out the catcher position now; maybe that will be our draft focus?

jdm2662
12-02-2010, 09:59 PM
I agree, you kind of are cornered here. I guess the Sox need AJ as much as AJ needs the Sox. Not too many people like him.

The failures of Flowers are such a dissapointment. :mad:

That's where I stand as well. I was all for moving on, but it doesn't appear to be a better option available. So, I won't lose sleep over this, but not excited, either.

rdwj
12-02-2010, 10:00 PM
I know that people don't like AJ

I think you're wrong there - most Sox fans LOVE AJ. You always have a few haters, but all in all, he's one of the most popular players on the team.

KMcMahon817
12-02-2010, 10:01 PM
Great to have AJ stay! :bandance::bandance::bandance:
And only $4m is quite a bargain for a catcher of AJ's ability. It's a steal just for his durability alone but he also handles the pitching staff well which is the most important thing considering the ton of money the Sox have invested in their starting pitching.

He's also a plus bat for a catcher, last year being an anomaly and even then he hit pretty well down the stretch. I believe he'll have a good year offensively now that his mind is clear from not worrying about his contract situation.

JR and KW still need to re-sign Paulie and acquire a closer and a RFer. "Don't stop now, boys!" :D:

We have a RFer. His name is Carlos Quentin. Have some faith people. THE CARLOS QUENTIN is coming back in 2011.

spawn
12-02-2010, 10:04 PM
We have a RFer. His name is Carlos Quentin. Have some faith people. THE CARLOS QUENTIN is coming back in 2011.
Is he going to bring a glove this upcoming season...or one that actually works?

Thome25
12-02-2010, 10:05 PM
I think you're wrong there - most Sox fans LOVE AJ. You always have a few haters, but all in all, he's one of the most popular players on the team.

This.

He's still a gamer because of his intangibles. Plain and simple.

What intangibles do you ask?

1. He plays hard every play and gets under the opposition's skin as a result.

2. When he "throws a fit" and "acts like a baby" when hitting, see #1 above. He cares and when he doesn't do well, he gets mad at himself.

3. He calls a good game and his pitchers trust him.

4. His teammates love him and he is a leader inside the clubhouse and on the field.

Any questions?

soltrain21
12-02-2010, 10:06 PM
For the record I'm happy with the move. I think he just needs to stop the childish bat slamming.

Just like Konerko needs to stop the sad kid on christmas shoulder drop.

JermaineDye05
12-02-2010, 10:06 PM
The only reason I'm not too ecstatic about this move is because it pretty much ensures that guys are gonna be running all over us again next year.

Daver
12-02-2010, 10:06 PM
This is a deal that I think is good for the Sox right now. For what is available vs what we're paying him (for what he has the potential to do), I like this deal and think the lower salary and two-year length helps us. We have two years to figure out the catcher position now; maybe that will be our draft focus?

Catcher is a focus of every team in MLB going into the amateur draft, there just isn't a whole lot out there to draft, players that play catcher and have a good bat are usually moved to a different position in HS.

KMcMahon817
12-02-2010, 10:07 PM
Is he going to bring a glove this upcoming season...or one that actually works?

I realize he isn't great in RF. But, at the same time, plenty of teams run out much worse OFers on a daily basis. Not saying that makes his poor D okay, but I think he is serviceable in RF for at least one more season. No point in trading him this offseason when is value is down. I haven't given up on him yet.

WhiteSox5187
12-02-2010, 10:09 PM
The only reason I'm not too ecstatic about this move is because it pretty much ensures that guys are gonna be running all over us again next year.

He actually had his best year in throwing out base runners last year since 2003.

JermaineDye05
12-02-2010, 10:09 PM
To think, eight hours ago this team's lineup was filled with gaping holes. Now it looks pretty formidable. Just get Pauly back, please. If not him, then LaRoche.

Daver
12-02-2010, 10:10 PM
Is he going to bring a glove this upcoming season...or one that actually works?

The White Sox let Carlos Lee graze in LF for a long time, at least TCQ isn't better off wearing his glove on his head the way Lee was.

KMcMahon817
12-02-2010, 10:16 PM
The White Sox let Carlos Lee graze in LF for a long time, at least TCQ isn't better off wearing his glove on his head the way Lee was.

Amen.

Nelfox02
12-02-2010, 10:21 PM
wow....crazy day for the sox here

woke up this morning thinking that 2011 was going to probably be a throw away......now there is a chance this team could be a contender?

still shell shocked

WhiteSox5187
12-02-2010, 10:22 PM
wow....crazy day for the sox here

woke up this morning thinking that 2011 was going to probably be a throw away......now there is a chance this team could be a contender?

still shell shocked

Honestly they are spending money the way I spend it when I have a franchise on MLB the Show. In fact, if they re-sign Paulie I think they will have had the exact same off-season I had once.

IlliniSox4Life
12-02-2010, 10:31 PM
Honestly they are spending money the way I spend it when I have a franchise on MLB the Show. In fact, if they re-sign Paulie I think they will have had the exact same off-season I had once.

Did you follow your PK signing up with inking Cliff Lee to a deal?

Nelfox02
12-02-2010, 10:36 PM
Honestly they are spending money the way I spend it when I have a franchise on MLB the Show. In fact, if they re-sign Paulie I think they will have had the exact same off-season I had once.


one of the articles I read had KW saying that he told JR he had only 2 options-----go with young talent and rebuild or take advantage of the pitching that we have and go for it, not patially go for it, but go all in

for the first time in years it feels like the Sox are actually trying to go for it..........just has me shocked still

they get Konerko and a solid pen arm........whoa

Hitmen77
12-02-2010, 10:41 PM
80% of MLB teams have declining catchers. This deal is actually perfect. Two years is a nice contract at this point. Gives AJ a little security, but not enough to worry the Sox. $4 million a year is a pretty damn good deal for the Sox.

It's less than the Sox are paying Teahen.

JB98
12-02-2010, 10:46 PM
The price is right. I like the deal. I understand the reservations people have about Pierzynski, but this was really the best option for the Sox at that position.

GlassSox
12-02-2010, 10:49 PM
The price is right and AJ is a very good fit. I like it.

southsidemomma
12-02-2010, 10:55 PM
Thank God. Happy Hanukkah. I can sleep easy tonight.:D: With Blobby gone, AJ will have more bleach to spare.

WhiteSox1989
12-02-2010, 10:57 PM
This makes me happy.

russ99
12-02-2010, 11:04 PM
Sweeeeeet!

Going to bed very happy. The Sox get Dunn, bring back A.J. and are working towards bringing back Paulie.

A close second is that they're going "all in" on the budget.

:bandance::bandance:

thomas35forever
12-02-2010, 11:25 PM
One of the best offseason days for the White Sox in recent memory. Good job, Kenny!

SoxNation05
12-02-2010, 11:37 PM
I'll get ripped for this but AJ is a dick. Regardless, he was the best option behind the plate.

I would have loved to get Russell Martin if we had the chance.

Dub25
12-02-2010, 11:45 PM
I too want a new face behind the plate.

Give me Olivo.

Just what do you think would have happened last year had it been Olivo at the plate instead of AJ with the Delmon Young incident?

AJ is an all talk no action coward in my book.

Even though I'm glad A.J. is back I also have felt the same way about him being all talk. But hey, if hiding behind his teamates during a brawl... see the Barrett fight on where he was... and it gets under the opponents skin, then heck, bring him on board. At the very least it is another left handed bat.

Dub25
12-02-2010, 11:47 PM
Considering some of the cash being thrown around at some FA C, 2 years, $4 M per year isn't that bad at all.


Agreed. Plus, 4 mil a year in MLB is becoming a bargain.

Dub25
12-02-2010, 11:48 PM
It seems to be the wise thing to do with the window starting to close on the rotation. With all that was committed to the pitching staff, you can't punt on the rest of the roster. Hopefully this continues and a PK or competent 1B signing is next.

Then after that it will be time to address the pen. That is looking a little shaky.

Dub25
12-02-2010, 11:50 PM
We have a RFer. His name is Carlos Quentin. Have some faith people. THE CARLOS QUENTIN is coming back in 2011.

I hope you're right but I have a feeling KW might be willing to deal the dark cloud that is TCQ.

hawkjt
12-03-2010, 12:26 AM
If AJ's bat had not come back to life in August and September,I would be concerned that he no longer could produce,but it did,and he did.

I agree that I think AJ will go back to his contact approach this year ,now that he is guaranteed 8 million more,and that will put him back near .300 where he was in 2009.

Good day for Sox fans.

Zakath
12-03-2010, 12:50 AM
I'll get ripped for this but AJ is a dick. Regardless, he was the best option behind the plate.

I would have loved to get Russell Martin if we had the chance.

Yes, but he's our dick, and the only thing worse would be him going to be a dick for someone else.

Foulke You
12-03-2010, 01:23 AM
Agreed. Plus, 4 mil a year in MLB is becoming a bargain.
Very true. Look at the huge contract John Buck commanded. Catching is priced at a premium these days. Also, we are paying $5.5 million for a garbage time reliever named Scott Linebrink. I think we can spare $4 million for a starting catcher. :tongue:

voodoochile
12-03-2010, 02:37 AM
Nice job again, KW. Here's hoping you land PK and we go from there.

gobears1987
12-03-2010, 03:03 AM
Two nights of Chanukah thus far and two great gifts from Jerry. My wish list for my 3rd night of Chanukah is Paul Konerko. On the 4th night I want a relief pitcher. Ditto for the 5th and 6th nights. What should we ask for on 7 and 8?

VenturaFan23
12-03-2010, 05:56 AM
Glad to see him coming back! My dog AJ is also happy about this as well. :D:

konerko 14
12-03-2010, 06:20 AM
:bandance::bandance::bandance: Now sign Konerko today!

ChiSoxGirl
12-03-2010, 07:38 AM
Count me in as one of the people who loves this deal. AJ took a pay cut to come back to the Sox and that says a lot to me. He was our best option, making this decision a no-brainer by Kenny & Co. Hopefully, this and the Dunn signing will entice Konerko to come back, too! :praying:

RockJock07
12-03-2010, 09:04 AM
I'll get ripped for this but AJ is a dick. Regardless, he was the best option behind the plate.

I would have loved to get Russell Martin if we had the chance.

I like Martin too however he has really worn down the last 2 seasons, he has been hurt more often and simply has lost his power. He was a 20/20 threat 2 years ago but has simply fallen off the map since then. IMO AJ has been more consistant at the plate.

I feel going into 2011 the sox will hopefully give Morel the chance at 3rd base and take the brian Anderson approach which is try to hit .250 and be above average defensively. If he can do that the rest of the lineup should be good enough to compensate for having a rookie out there.

Love the Dunn signing, huge fan of him, probably my fav non-sox player throughout the year.

SI1020
12-03-2010, 09:51 AM
The price is right. I like the deal. I understand the reservations people have about Pierzynski, but this was really the best option for the Sox at that position. That about sums it up for me also.

Sargeant79
12-03-2010, 10:59 AM
I like Martin too however he has really worn down the last 2 seasons, he has been hurt more often and simply has lost his power. He was a 20/20 threat 2 years ago but has simply fallen off the map since then. IMO AJ has been more consistant at the plate.

I feel going into 2011 the sox will hopefully give Morel the chance at 3rd base and take the brian Anderson approach which is try to hit .250 and be above average defensively. If he can do that the rest of the lineup should be good enough to compensate for having a rookie out there.

Love the Dunn signing, huge fan of him, probably my fav non-sox player throughout the year.

I agree on Martin. Hip injuries can be career killers. I think 2 years at only $4 mil per is not a bad deal at all for a solid starting catcher.

Also agree with Morel. A 2:1 ratio of Morel to Vizquel at 3B would be fine by me. Morel's ABs could go up or down from that ratio depending on how he plays.

russ99
12-03-2010, 11:03 AM
I find it astounding that we got A.J. back at a $2M per year pay cut. Now our catching prospects have time to get it together.

Good job, Kenny!

BRDSR
12-03-2010, 11:38 AM
Way too many moments of being a dog on the field last year. Not running out grounders and pop ups. Throwing equipment. He's a child.

r.

I made a post to this effect during the season and I am a BIG AJ fan. Overall a good signing in my opinion (there aren't that many halfway decent veteran starters to be had for less than $4 million per year). But I do hope he gets his "poutiness" under control.

palehozenychicty
12-03-2010, 11:38 AM
AJ will be motivated to play well next year. He's listening to all the haters. :tongue:

Steelrod
12-03-2010, 11:58 AM
I find it astounding that we got A.J. back at a $2M per year pay cut. Now our catching prospects have time to get it together.

Good job, Kenny!
Varitek signed for 2M with Boston. Could it be starting a trend of players getting what they are worth!!

ChiSoxGal85
12-03-2010, 12:02 PM
Count me in as one of the people who loves this deal. AJ took a pay cut to come back to the Sox and that says a lot to me. He was our best option, making this decision a no-brainer by Kenny & Co. Hopefully, this and the Dunn signing will entice Konerko to come back, too! :praying:
Couldn't have said it better! :bandance: Love this deal. And Dunn's! Now get Paulie back and I might be thinking season tickets...

sullythered
12-03-2010, 12:35 PM
Love it. Love AJ. Let's go get Paulie back and I'm totally pumped for next year.

Daver
12-03-2010, 01:17 PM
I find it astounding that we got A.J. back at a $2M per year pay cut. Now our catching prospects have time to get it together.

Good job, Kenny!

What catching prospects?

doublem23
12-03-2010, 01:23 PM
What catching prospects?

Blanke. Maybe Phegley.

DirtySox
12-03-2010, 02:01 PM
Blanke. Maybe Phegley.

I haven't given up on Gonzalez yet either. He is great defensively and still young. The bat needs to catch up though.

None of them are 5 star prospects obviously, but there is some potential. I'm really hoping Blanke continues to impress. He could have great value as a 14th round pick.

Railsplitter
12-04-2010, 10:07 AM
Good, get Paulie back

Rohan
12-04-2010, 03:54 PM
I too want a new face behind the plate.

Give me Olivo.

Just what do you think would have happened last year had it been Olivo at the plate instead of AJ with the Delmon Young incident?

AJ is an all talk no action coward in my book.

:rolleyes: