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JermaineDye05
11-28-2010, 03:40 PM
Link (http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/features/rumors?date=20101128&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2***b %2ffeatures%2frumors%3fdate%3d20101128#7831)

Um No.

It's an ESPN insider link. There is no story aside from the title of this thread. Those who are ESPN insiders, which I am not, can view the full article.

I usually take these with a grain of salt because it's usually just some crazy proposition that doesn't really hold water.

DirtySox
11-28-2010, 03:46 PM
Pretty sure it's a link to Phil Rogers' dumb-ass suggestion where the Sox should sign Jeter and trade Alexei.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/sc-spt-1128-notes-rogers-baseball--20101127,0,2987036.column

The notion of trading Carlos for Ibanez is also just as asinine.

JermaineDye05
11-28-2010, 03:49 PM
Pretty sure it's a link to Phil Rogers' dumb-ass suggestion where the Sox should sign Jeter and trade Alexei.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/sc-spt-1128-notes-rogers-baseball--20101127,0,2987036.column

The notion of trading Carlos for Ibanez is also just as asinine.

It really doesn't surprise me that he was behind the proposition.

delben91
11-28-2010, 04:00 PM
Pretty sure it's a link to Phil Rogers' dumb-ass suggestion where the Sox should sign Jeter and trade Alexei.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/sc-spt-1128-notes-rogers-baseball--20101127,0,2987036.column

The notion of trading Carlos for Ibanez is also just as asinine.

As long as the Sox get more players in each deal though, they win the trade! It's so simple! Peavy for the 11th and 12th guys in the Pirates bullpen? Well, the Sox would win the trade 2-1!

spawn
11-28-2010, 04:14 PM
Pretty sure it's a link to Phil Rogers' dumb-ass suggestion where the Sox should sign Jeter and trade Alexei.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/sc-spt-1128-notes-rogers-baseball--20101127,0,2987036.column

The notion of trading Carlos for Ibanez is also just as asinine.
OK..so according to Rogers:

- Derek Jeter's skills are diminishing. But...

- With Starling Castro a rising star, he doesn't fit the Cubs as a SS but would fit as a 3rd baseman. However...

- Ramirez' contract ends after the 2011 season and would become expensive (wouldn't Derek Jeter be more expensive?), so trade him for Granderson, sign Jeter and have your defense at SS suffer?

How does the hell does this guy still have a job? :scratch:

russ99
11-28-2010, 07:53 PM
OK..so according to Rogers:

- Derek Jeter's skills are diminishing. But...

- With Starling Castro a rising star, he doesn't fit the Cubs as a SS but would fit as a 3rd baseman. However...

- Ramirez' contract ends after the 2011 season and would become expensive (wouldn't Derek Jeter be more expensive?), so trade him for Granderson, sign Jeter and have your defense at SS suffer?

How does the hell does this guy still have a job? :scratch:

LOL. Saw that yesterday. It's almost a weekly thing now, to get the paper and see what crazy idea that Phil has for the Sox this week...

spawn
11-28-2010, 08:20 PM
LOL. Saw that yesterday. It's almost a weekly thing now, to get the paper and see what crazy idea that Phil has for the Sox this week...
What's really funny about it is it's like he's channeling some WSI posts by ridiculous trade idea. Why would the Yankees trade Garanderson and one of the Yankees top catching prospects for Ramirez and bad White Sox contracts (Teahen, Linebrink)? Why would the Phillies trade Ibanez for Quentin? It's so ****ing ridiculous.

Also, with payroll where it is, why would the Sox even think about trading a young shortstop who had a breakout season defensively and then try signing a more expensive shortstop who is nowhere near as good a defensive shortstop as Ramirez? I know KW has made some head scratching moves, but that would be assinine.

cards press box
11-28-2010, 08:55 PM
Pretty sure it's a link to Phil Rogers' dumb-ass suggestion where the Sox should sign Jeter and trade Alexei.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/sc-spt-1128-notes-rogers-baseball--20101127,0,2987036.column

The notion of trading Carlos for Ibanez is also just as asinine.

I saw that Rogers article, too. Based on the nutty things that Rogers has written lately, that guy is either: (a) losing his mind at an astonishingly alarming rate or (b) "carrying water" for some team officials and/or agents. I am at a loss to imagine any other explanation for these crazy suggestions.

johnnyg83
11-28-2010, 10:08 PM
Alexei = better + cheaper. Why in good heavens?

KMcMahon817
11-29-2010, 01:12 PM
What's really funny about it is it's like he's channeling some WSI posts by ridiculous trade idea. Why would the Yankees trade Garanderson and one of the Yankees top catching prospects for Ramirez and bad White Sox contracts (Teahen, Linebrink)? Why would the Phillies trade Ibanez for Quentin? It's so ****ing ridiculous.

Also, with payroll where it is, why would the Sox even think about trading a young shortstop who had a breakout season defensively and then try signing a more expensive shortstop who is nowhere near as good a defensive shortstop as Ramirez? I know KW has made some head scratching moves, but that would be assinine.

That would be an absolute steal for the Phillies in every sense of the word. Carlos is much younger, a marginally better defender, has more power, is much cheaper, and has worlds more potential than Ibanez.

And someone mentioned above that Alexei is a FA after 2011...I thought he was under team control for at least another two seasons?

DirtySox
11-29-2010, 01:51 PM
That would be an absolute steal for the Phillies in every sense of the word. Carlos is much younger, a marginally better defender, has more power, is much cheaper, and has worlds more potential than Ibanez.

And someone mentioned above that Alexei is a FA after 2011...I thought he was under team control for at least another two seasons?

Hard to find a source, but I'm rather sure that Alexei is arbitration eligible in 2012 and 2013, and then a free agent after.

Edit: B-Ref (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/ramiral03.shtml) agrees.

KMcMahon817
11-29-2010, 02:48 PM
Hard to find a source, but I'm rather sure that Alexei is arbitration eligible in 2012 and 2013, and then a free agent after.

Edit: B-Ref (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/ramiral03.shtml) agrees.

Gracias.

soxfanatlanta
11-29-2010, 03:19 PM
Obviously, the Tribune's drug testing policy is somewhat lacking.

russ99
11-29-2010, 07:03 PM
Alexei has an odd contract clause that needs to be addressed in the next few days. From Cot's:

If eligible for arbitration, Ramirez may opt out of ($1.1M) 2011 salary by 12/1/10
If Ramirez opts out, White Sox may exercise $2.75M option for 2011 or go through arbitration with Ramirez.

They could also sign him to an extension. Will be interesting to see what the Sox do.

He's still under team control for 3 more years, but will be arb eligible as usual.

SOXSINCE'70
11-29-2010, 08:06 PM
Pretty sure it's a link to Phil Rogers' dumb-ass suggestion where the Sox should sign Jeter and trade Alexei.


While they're at it, they should also acquire FA'S Cliff Lee, Carl Crawford, Mariano Rivera and Jayson Werth. :D::gulp:

soxinem1
11-30-2010, 01:56 PM
Alexei for Granderson?


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'You gotta be, BLEEPIN' ME!!!!'

Bucky F. Dent
11-30-2010, 10:11 PM
What a fool ass suggestion! They should take away that writer's pencil!