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cws05champ
11-09-2010, 10:10 AM
Gold Glove awards to be announced today.....not that they really matter because this is just a reputation award vs being an actual good defensive player (see Jeter lately).

We know Buehrle has won this year, but I don't see any other Sox that have a chance, although Alexei should be in contention. Maybe Vizquel will win one!!!

DirtySox
11-09-2010, 03:36 PM
Jeter = Winner

cws05champ
11-09-2010, 03:39 PM
I should just not pay attention to the baseball awards. When something like reputation determines an award over actual play....it's just a sham, and a shame.

downstairs
11-09-2010, 03:42 PM
Congrats to MB, but the gold glove is the most useless award next to an all-star selection. All popularity.

Nellie_Fox
11-09-2010, 04:12 PM
Jeter = WinnerTravesty.

DirtySox
11-09-2010, 04:14 PM
http://www.baseball-reference.com/

Pretty sweet front page.

TDog
11-09-2010, 04:21 PM
I'm not sure it's all popularity. The Gold Glove recipients are chosen in a poll of coaches and managers, and they often have a better idea of what players are doing against them than fans do. They aren't looking at statistics, which is an advantage when you're looking at a fielding award.

At the same time, many teams don't see each other as much as they used to, so what they know about what a player has done in the past plays a bigger factor than would the MVP or Cy Young. It comes down to who they would most fear on defense against them or who they would most want on their side defensively.

All of the award voting has flaws. Many writers tend to look too much at peripheral statistics in their votes. The players polls are taken before the end of the season, and with unbalanced schedules, there are players worthy for votes that many players didn't see play or only saw play during an extraordinary stretch.

If you let fans choose, the awards would be even more meaningless.

Gavin
11-09-2010, 04:23 PM
Mod edit: Do not publish portions of a copyrighted website. A link was already provided in a previous post.

JermaineDye05
11-09-2010, 04:31 PM
Gold glove is seriously a joke.

And water is wet. No way Jeter deserves that.

aryzner
11-09-2010, 04:51 PM
LOL @ baseball-reference.com front page

PaleHoser
11-09-2010, 04:55 PM
LMAO at Baseball Reference. I'm going to have to send them some money to sponsor some Sox immortal just for posting that. That's beautiful.

fram40
11-09-2010, 05:01 PM
Mod edit: copyrighted material removed.

click on the "we can't believe it either" and it takes you to the SS stats. Jeter is dead last - worst SS in the league.

I actually thought Ramirez had a chance. What was I thinking

esbrechtel
11-09-2010, 05:06 PM
That is priceless!

Boondock Saint
11-09-2010, 05:17 PM
Brutally honest- I love it.

Bucky F. Dent
11-09-2010, 05:22 PM
Jeter won the gold glove, I didn't realize that the rest of the short stops in the AL sucked that bad!

VMSNS
11-09-2010, 05:29 PM
I don't watch Jeter play that regularly...but is he really THAT bad in the field? I just thought he was pretty average...

Congrats to MB! :gulp:

asindc
11-09-2010, 05:34 PM
I don't watch Jeter play that regularly...but is he really THAT bad in the field? I just thought he was pretty average...

Congrats to MB! :gulp:

Let's just put it this way: I doubt that you will run into many baseball fans who think he deserved the award, even NYY fans. It is the equivalent of naming Jason Varitek an AS catcher,... oh, wait...

ChiSoxGal85
11-09-2010, 05:44 PM
click on the "we can't believe it either" and it takes you to the SS stats. Jeter is dead last - worst SS in the league.

I actually thought Ramirez had a chance. What was I thinking
ROFL! I hope the coaches & managers who voted for Jeter are embarrassed.

Get 'em next year, Alexei.

Lip Man 1
11-09-2010, 07:01 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5784846

Good story.

Lip

JermaineDye05
11-09-2010, 07:43 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5784846

Good story.

Lip

And another one...

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Yankees-Jeter-plays-bad-defense-wins-undeserve?urn=mlb-283888

chisoxfanatic
11-09-2010, 09:11 PM
I personally like this (http://espn.go.com/blog/SweetSpot/post/_/id/6238/gold-glove-results-mixed-as-usual) article. After you read it, be sure to pay extra attention to the last sentence! :smile:

Hitmen77
11-09-2010, 09:28 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5784846

Good story.

Lip

According to this article, Buehrle is the first pitcher with more than one Gold Glove and more than one no-hitter. Cool! :cool:

Nellie_Fox
11-10-2010, 12:56 AM
I don't watch Jeter play that regularly...but is he really THAT bad in the field? I just thought he was pretty average...He catches what he gets to. He just doesn't get to much of anything.

palehozenychicty
11-10-2010, 01:50 AM
He catches what he gets to. He just doesn't get to much of anything.

Bingo. This is from a guy who sees them play a lot. How Andrus or Alexei don't win is just absurd.

Zakath
11-10-2010, 06:13 AM
He catches what he gets to. He just doesn't get to much of anything.

Played 4 fewer games than Alexei and had 215 fewer chances. And I don't believe that the Yankees' pitching staff is that much better than ours that there were 215 fewer balls hit towards short.

The typical Yankee fan response seems to be: "He only had 6 errors. Look at these other guys - Andrus with 16, Ramirez with 20. How can you say they're better?" Well, when you're getting to balls that are out of the range of certain SS's, you've got a higher chance of committing an error. But you're still making a lot of plays, and a lot of outs, on those balls, whereas when Jeter's out there, those are all hits.

Alexei had 67 more putouts and 134 more assists than Jeter. That's a lot of outs.

PeteWard
11-10-2010, 08:05 AM
This award is about as important as the ESPYs.

JermaineDye05
11-10-2010, 09:59 PM
Another good article.

Pretty much stating what we already know. Alexei was the best.

Link (http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20101110&content_id=16061042&vkey=perspectives&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb)