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Hitmen77
10-12-2010, 08:19 AM
Who wins the NL Pennant this year?

The Phillies have to be the favorites in this series. The Giants have good pitching, but their offense isn't exactly elite.

Philadelphia is trying to become the 1st NL team in nearly 70 years to win 3 straight pennants (St. Louis in 1942-44)......and this from a team that only won 3 pennants total between 1900-1980!

doublem23
10-12-2010, 08:21 AM
Anything can happen in a short series of course, but I would be stunned if the Phillies don't win this one relatively easy. They are just stacked.

TheOldRoman
10-12-2010, 08:53 AM
I'm rooting for the Giants, but I can't see anyone getting past the Phillies this year.

JermaineDye05
10-12-2010, 09:27 AM
I'm going for the underdog. I love Lincecum, plus it'd be nice to see Juan and Aaron get another ring.

Hitmen77
10-12-2010, 10:10 AM
By the way, this is the 9th time the Phillies have made it to the NLCS and the 5th time for the Giants. The NL team with the most NLCS appearances is the Braves (11). The Phillies are now tied for 2nd in list of most NLCS appearances (tied with Pittsburgh and Los Angeles). St. Louis and Cincinnati have 8 appearances each.

The Phillies have won 5 of their NLCS series and the Giants have won 2. This is the first time these two teams have faced each other in the post season.

EDIT: This is the Giants 5th NLCS, not 6th....and they have only won 2 pennants (not 3) since the NLCS was started.

PKalltheway
10-12-2010, 12:30 PM
I'll say Phillies in 7. I think this will be a closer series than people think. The Giants have some outstanding pitching that can match up well with Philly.

TDog
10-12-2010, 12:35 PM
By the way, this is the 9th time the Phillies have made it to the NLCS and the 6th time for the Giants. The NL team with the most NLCS appearances is the Braves (11). The Phillies are now tied for 2nd in list of most NLCS appearances (tied with Pittsburgh and Los Angeles). St. Louis and Cincinnati have 8 appearances each.

The Phillies have won 5 of their NLCS series and the Giants have won 3. This is the first time these two teams have faced each other in the post season.

And the Phillies were the first team to approach a century without a championship when they won the World Series in 1980. The National League team began play in 1883. The Giants won five World Series between 1905 and 1954, but haven't won since, currently the second-longest drought among National League teams. No non-expansion NL team worth mentioning is even close to a half century without a World Series championship.

And because the Giants started playing in San Francisco in 1958, the San Francisco Giants have never won. There are no grandfathers who talk about a San Francisco championship. Of course, across the Bay, far beyond McCovey Cove, there are championship banners that commemorate the other local team, once against the Giants in a season that seemed to end with the earth swallowing up Candlestick. The banner-tarps are down now because it's football season, but the baseball they also commemorate championships won by the A's when they were still in Philadelphia.

Brian26
10-12-2010, 12:40 PM
I'm going for the underdog. I love Lincecum, plus it'd be nice to see Juan and Aaron get another ring.

Rowand's brutal right now and should be thankful he suckered someone into a sick deal three years ago.

I'd rather see Contreras and Gload get another ring before Rowand.

Brian26
10-12-2010, 12:42 PM
By the way, this is the 9th time the Phillies have made it to the NLCS and the 6th time for the Giants. The NL team with the most NLCS appearances is the Braves (11). The Phillies are now tied for 2nd in list of most NLCS appearances (tied with Pittsburgh and Los Angeles). St. Louis and Cincinnati have 8 appearances each.

The Phillies have won 5 of their NLCS series and the Giants have won 3. This is the first time these two teams have faced each other in the post season.

Is this the 6th for SF? Stockton said it is their 5th last night after the game, but I didn't look it up.

salty99
10-12-2010, 12:51 PM
Rowand's brutal right now and should be thankful he suckered someone into a sick deal three years ago.

I'd rather see Contreras and Gload get another ring before Rowand.

and what about Juan Uribe?

Hitmen77
10-12-2010, 01:12 PM
Is this the 6th for SF? Stockton said it is their 5th last night after the game, but I didn't look it up.

This is indeed the 5th time, not the 6th. I gave the Giants and extra NLCS appearance.:redface:

EDIT: ....and they have only won 2 NLCSs ('89 and '02) so far.

WhiteSox5187
10-12-2010, 01:23 PM
I'd like to see a good series, but I think the Phillies are going to blow them out of the water.

TDog
10-12-2010, 01:39 PM
Rowand's brutal right now and should be thankful he suckered someone into a sick deal three years ago.

I'd rather see Contreras and Gload get another ring before Rowand.

Before the White Sox traded for Swisher to play center, signing Ramirez to supplement him, at first at least, they went after Hunter. When Hunter signed with the Angels for more than he was worth, they went after Rowand, who signed with the Giants for far more than he was worth. (Some here were hot for Zito as a free agent before the Giants gave him far more than he was worth.) Of course, Swisher was only playing center for Oakland because Kotsay had to undergo surgery. Swisher didn't work out. Ramirez ended up at second and then short. When the dust cleared, the Sox ended up with Rios in center, which is probably better than Hunter and certainly better than Rowand.

Rowand got off to a great start before he went on the DL after getting hit in the face by a pitch. Of late, he had been a forgotten man on the team. He probably only made the roster as a pinch-hitter because of a pinch-hit home run against the Padres. Schierholtz plays great right-field defense and career minor-leaguer Torres has been playing great center while being the team's offensive spark plug. With late acquisitions Ross and Burrell both in the game for offense, and Ross not being so bad in the outfield, Rowand has been the odd man out. Rowand going down may have been similar to Teahen going down for the White Sox in that the Giants found their spark when Torres was forced to play more.

Rowand is a good guy, though, and always treats fans well. He participated in the White Sox fantasy camp (where the pros hang out with the campers more than they do at other camps) before he was traded to the Phillies. He also is excited to be a part of this Giants team, despite his playing time, in contrast to the Swisher pouting of 2008.

Contreras was a huge part of the 2005 White Sox championship, of course, as was Juan Uribe. Contreras has a deeper supporting role with the Phillies, but Uribe has at least as big a role with the Giants as he did with the 2005 White Sox, which couldn't have won without his strong defense. The Giants expect more offensively from Uribe than the 2005 White Sox did. In the NLDS, they didn't get it, but Juan continues to swing hard, just as he always has.

Hitmen77
10-12-2010, 04:03 PM
And the Phillies were the first team to approach a century without a championship when they won the World Series in 1980. The National League team began play in 1883.

The Phillies only played in 2 World Series before 1980. In fact, they hold the MLB record for number of years in between winning a post season game (62 years between the 1915 WS and the 1977 NLCS). But, beginning in 1980, they have won 5 pennants and are now going for their 6th in that time (which also would be their 3rd in a row). Quite a turnaround for what had been the "losingest" of the original 16 franchises

The Giants won five World Series between 1905 and 1954, but haven't won since, currently the second-longest drought among National League teams. No non-expansion NL team worth mentioning is even close to a half century without a World Series championship.

And because the Giants started playing in San Francisco in 1958, the San Francisco Giants have never won. There are no grandfathers who talk about a San Francisco championship. Of course, across the Bay, far beyond McCovey Cove, there are championship banners that commemorate the other local team, once against the Giants in a season that seemed to end with the earth swallowing up Candlestick. The banner-tarps are down now because it's football season, but the baseball they also commemorate championships won by the A's when they were still in Philadelphia.The Giants and their greatest rivals (Dodgers) have really switched places in terms of championship droughts. The Giants won their last of 5 WS titles in 1954 and the Dodgers won their first of 6 WS titles the very next year.

I guess this NLCS is a match up between the two "crosstown" (or the equivalent term for the Bay Area) teams that the A's have outperformed - and yet lost out in the battle of market share - during their history. They won 5 titles in Philly while the Phillies never won anything and now they've won 4 titles in Oakland while the Giants have yet to win it all on the West Coast.

palehozenychicty
10-12-2010, 10:39 PM
The Giants have had some amazing players in their time, but the Phillies are simply a better team right now. Phils in 6.

LongLiveFisk
10-12-2010, 10:57 PM
Wouldn't mind seeing the Giants but I think Philly is going to take it.

Also I feel Philly has a much better chance against the Yankees. I really don't want to see another Yankee championship.

sox1970
10-12-2010, 11:13 PM
Phillies in 4.

BadBobbyJenks
10-12-2010, 11:33 PM
It is the Phillies' series to lose every round.

chisox616
10-13-2010, 10:52 AM
I want the Giants to pull off the upset. Mostly because it'd be cool to see black & orange uniforms around Halloween...but also because I'm tired of watching the Phillies.

seventyseven
10-13-2010, 01:52 PM
Yawnnnnnnnnnnnnn

SOXSINCE'70
10-14-2010, 06:23 AM
PHILLIES!!!! :bandance::bandance::)

SOXSINCE'70
10-14-2010, 06:24 AM
Phillies in 4.

Got to give the Giants credit. Phils in 6.
This won't be a 4 game sweep, but it's a nice thought.

russ99
10-14-2010, 11:24 AM
Phils in 7.

Is this series going to set a record for the least runs in an NLCS?

wassagstdu
10-14-2010, 12:25 PM
I would love to see Juan Uribe win World Series MVP, but I don't think the Giants can get past the Phils.

Bucky F. Dent
10-16-2010, 06:53 PM
Oh, Lord! Buck & McCarver. Time to drive something sharp into my ears.

whitesox4eva
10-16-2010, 08:37 PM
Come on Giants! I would love to see the Giants and Rangers in the WS. My two favorite teams that have been in the Post Season so far. :bandance:

Giants beating Halladay and the Phillies 4-1.

JermaineDye05
10-16-2010, 08:37 PM
4-1 giants. Cody Ross having himself a game with 2HR

gogosox675
10-16-2010, 09:40 PM
Oh, Lord! Buck & McCarver. Time to drive something sharp into my ears.

I don't really have a problem with one or the other, but I still think it's time for a change. They've been calling the playoffs together since 1996 and the World Series exclusively for many years.

JermaineDye05
10-16-2010, 09:45 PM
Horrible ab by torres

JermaineDye05
10-16-2010, 09:59 PM
The Freak > Doc as I predicted.

Giants lead 1-0

whitesox4eva
10-16-2010, 10:00 PM
The Freak > Doc as I predicted.

Giants lead 1-0

:bandance::bandance::bandance:

guillensdisciple
10-16-2010, 10:07 PM
What the hell was that little cross thing Wilson did at the end of the game?

Marqhead
10-17-2010, 07:11 AM
What the hell was that little cross thing Wilson did at the end of the game?

All of my friends and I saw that and had the same reaction: "what the **** was that?" Wilson just overall looks funny, with the beard, the hair, and I think he looks like a bizarro Ben Roethlisberger. (Not even going to attempt to spell that).

Good game Giants.

102605
10-17-2010, 10:33 AM
Wilson has be doing that thing since I can remember. He certainly is pretty quirky.

Go Giants!

soltrain21
10-17-2010, 11:01 AM
All of my friends and I saw that and had the same reaction: "what the **** was that?" Wilson just overall looks funny, with the beard, the hair, and I think he looks like a bizarro Ben Roethlisberger. (Not even going to attempt to spell that).

Good game Giants.

What the hell was that little cross thing Wilson did at the end of the game?

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/extrabaggs/2008/07/14/at-long-last-brian-wilson-reveals-the-meaning-behind-his-crossed-arms-gesture-after-he-saves-a-game/

Viva Medias B's
10-17-2010, 07:07 PM
I know it's a picky question, buy why is Fox using the "NFL on Fox" music for this MLB pregame show?

JermaineDye05
10-17-2010, 07:47 PM
Mike Fontenot costs the Giants a run.

Sanchez is getting squeezed badly (so it looks on gameday).

35 pitch first inning.

Bucky F. Dent
10-17-2010, 08:29 PM
Fontenot called for that ball, then let it drop.

JermaineDye05
10-17-2010, 08:45 PM
Cody Ross making a bid for MVP.

Homers again and breaks up Oswalt's no-no.

DirtySox
10-17-2010, 08:55 PM
My timing is a game late, but was it mentioned that Cody Ross spelled backwards is "Sorry Doc" ?

JermaineDye05
10-17-2010, 08:57 PM
My timing is a game late, but was it mentioned that Cody Ross spelled backwards is "Sorry Doc" ?

That's cool, but not to split hairs, it spells Ssory Doc.

Close.

DirtySox
10-17-2010, 08:59 PM
That's cool, but not to split hairs, it spells Ssory Doc.

Close.

Nuts.

I should have caught that. That's what I get for stealing from twitter.

LongLiveFisk
10-17-2010, 10:32 PM
Series now tied at 1-1. Getting interesting...

palehozenychicty
10-18-2010, 04:52 AM
Phillies broke it open late, and that JRollins hit has to feel huge in the clubhouse. Tuesday's game should be a dandy. Hamels-Cain.

thomas35forever
10-19-2010, 05:32 PM
The NFL music during an MLB broadcast?:scratch:

EnglishChiSox
10-19-2010, 05:34 PM
Contreras pitching to Uribe and Rowand, it's like a freaking reunion

Marqhead
10-19-2010, 05:59 PM
Someone verify this on their dvr...

"He goes by smell. Smell of the balls." -- Tim McCarver

getonbckthr
10-19-2010, 06:00 PM
Phillies are done!

TDog
10-19-2010, 06:12 PM
Phillies are done!

Not yet. Bumgarner has been a pretty good pitcher this year, and he really needs to win tomorrow. The Phillies only need one win in San Francisco to regain the homefield advantage and extend the series past San Francisco. If it goes to a Game 7, it looks like it would be Cain vs. Hamels in Philadelphia. Cain is a better pitcher in San Francisco.

In any case, the Phillies aren't destroying the Giants as some expected.

JermaineDye05
10-19-2010, 07:35 PM
Damn! I totally forgot it was a day game. :angry:

Giants win!! :bandance::bandance::bandance:

Matt Cain shuts 'em down and outduels Hamels.

Contreras went two scoreless inning as well, which is nice to see.

JermaineDye05
10-19-2010, 07:37 PM
Phillies need to win tomorrow, they'll have The Freak back in game 5.

russ99
10-20-2010, 08:47 AM
Phillies need to win tomorrow, they'll have The Freak back in game 5.

Freak vs. Halladay, a toss-up.

I think the Giants need game 4 more than the Phils do, since if the Phillies can get the offense going, their pitching can shut a team down.

JermaineDye05
10-20-2010, 12:48 PM
Freak vs. Halladay, a toss-up.

I think the Giants need game 4 more than the Phils do, since if the Phillies can get the offense going, their pitching can shut a team down.


The Giants' pitching is showing that they can do the same thing.

MtGrnwdSoxFan
10-20-2010, 12:52 PM
The Giants' pitching is showing that they can do the same thing.

Even more so than Philly...Philly's calling card is their offense, and what's the old saying? Great pitching beats a great offense.

I'd love to see a TEX-SF WS, if only to see a Freak-Lee matchup...I'd put the over-under of combined Ks between them at 26, and I would actually take the over.

JermaineDye05
10-20-2010, 07:01 PM
The game starts out with Shane Victorino showing up the ump and then the umpire showing him up right back.

JermaineDye05
10-20-2010, 07:30 PM
Giants up 1-0 after 2 wild pitches by Blanton and a Posey single.

Bumgarner looking real good early. Blanton, not so much.

Another note, there's been some questionable calls early. A missed balk call last inning. The first base umpire just called a foul ball fair when the call should have been the HP umpire's.

Marqhead
10-20-2010, 07:33 PM
Looks like a balk to me.

JermaineDye05
10-20-2010, 07:39 PM
Wow, the HP umpire has an itchy trigger finger. The Phillies need to stop assuming that a pitch is ball four. That's twice now that one of their batters has taken it upon himself to walk towards first without hearing the umpire's call.

JermaineDye05
10-20-2010, 07:48 PM
Posey again!!

2-0:bandance::bandance:

JermaineDye05
10-20-2010, 08:02 PM
Tim McCarver is at his best tonight in the "what the hell are you saying" category.

His great insight to the game earlier was "Slider, cut fastball, they're similar."

I'm gonna sound like a grammar Nazi here, but later, on a play where Jimmy Rollins slid and picked the ball, Tim McCarver said "J-Roll rolling to his left."

I don't know about you, but had Jimmy Rollins ROLLED and picked the ball AND threw to first and still got the out, that'd be play of the century.

JermaineDye05
10-20-2010, 08:20 PM
Rowand cuts down the tying run at the plate.

2-1 Giants 2 outs in the 5th.

soltrain21
10-20-2010, 08:20 PM
Hell of a pick by Posey.

JermaineDye05
10-20-2010, 08:24 PM
Wow, Bochey not taking any chances. Pulling Bumgarner out after 4 2/3 IP with only 85 pitches and just one run given up. However, that's 4 singles in the inning off of him with a sac bunt and a heck of a play by Posey to get two outs. Rowand has been pulled too, probably because he missed the cutoff man.

JermaineDye05
10-20-2010, 08:28 PM
It was a gamble, and it didn't work out.

3-2 Phillies.

I wouldn't have pulled Bumgarner. It was one bad inning.

getonbckthr
10-20-2010, 08:34 PM
Wow, Bochey not taking any chances. Pulling Bumgarner out after 4 2/3 IP with only 85 pitches and just one run given up. However, that's 4 singles in the inning off of him with a sac bunt and a heck of a play by Posey to get two outs. Rowand has been pulled too, probably because he missed the cutoff man.
Or because its the National League and they do double switches regularly.

soltrain21
10-20-2010, 09:09 PM
Giants got screwed. That was a fair ball. Good ole' umpiring.

soltrain21
10-20-2010, 09:11 PM
And Pablo says, "Screw you."

whitesox4eva
10-20-2010, 09:12 PM
Giants are on FIRE!!!

I can honestly see a World Series of Texas and San Fran. I am THRILLED! :bandance::bandance::bandance:

getonbckthr
10-20-2010, 09:20 PM
And Pablo says, "Screw you."
Umm thats Mr. Panda to you.:D:

koch44
10-20-2010, 09:22 PM
Giants are on FIRE!!!

I can honestly see a World Series of Texas and San Fran. I am THRILLED! :bandance::bandance::bandance:


Fox executives must be pleased, and I'm glad that they aren't!

RadioheadRocks
10-20-2010, 09:47 PM
Fox executives must be pleased, and I'm glad that they aren't!


Hehhehheh I've said it before and I'll say it again, **** Fox, Buck, McCarver and the horse they all rode in on.

JermaineDye05
10-20-2010, 10:03 PM
Tied back up at 5-5.

If the Phillies have any hopes of returning to the World Series for the third straight year, they need to come back in this game.

I for one hope they don't.

Bobotty13
10-20-2010, 10:24 PM
Uribe with a solid play, after just entering the game. Ahhh the memories.

Brian26
10-20-2010, 10:29 PM
No matter what happens here, I love this throwback move of bringing Oswalt in to pitch in relief.

Marqhead
10-20-2010, 10:33 PM
No matter what happens here, I love this throwback move of bringing Oswalt in to pitch in relief.

Very Buehrle-esque. :D:

Bobotty13
10-20-2010, 10:37 PM
And Uribe wins it with a sac fly!!!!!

JermaineDye05
10-20-2010, 10:38 PM
Juanyyy wins it!!!!

Giants up 3-1!!

Go get 'em, Freak.

Viva Medias B's
10-20-2010, 10:41 PM
:roflmao:


Fox executives must be pleased, and I'm glad that they aren't!

That's nothing. Imagine how excited ESPN must feel at the prospect of a Rangers-Giants World Series.

:bandance:

DrCrawdad
10-20-2010, 10:41 PM
And Uribe wins it with a sac fly!!!!!

Juanyyy wins it!!!!

Giants up 3-1!!

Go get 'em, Freak.


I don't have a strong favorite in the NLCS, but it was cool to see Uribe come thru tonight with the game winning sac fly. Then to see Uribe and Rowand celebrating. Cool.

Brian26
10-20-2010, 10:41 PM
Still love that Uribe bat-flip, even on a sac fly that he thought was gone.

Viva Medias B's
10-20-2010, 10:43 PM
Question: Has any member of the 2005 White Sox later won a World Series ring with another team?

Bobotty13
10-20-2010, 10:43 PM
I don't have a strong favorite in the NLCS, but it was cool to see Uribe come thru tonight with the game winning sac fly. Then to see Uribe and Rowand celebrating. Cool.


Same here. But a baseball walk-off is exciting, especially in the playoffs. It was just icing on the cake that it happened to be Juan.

sox1970
10-20-2010, 10:45 PM
Question: Has any member of the 2005 White Sox later won a World Series ring with another team?

I think Timo Perez got one in 06. Iguchi was on the 08 Phillies for a time. I'm sure they got rings.

sox1970
10-20-2010, 10:46 PM
Still love that Uribe bat-flip, even on a sac fly that he thought was gone.

I don't think he thought it was gone. I think he just knew it was enough to win.

Soxman219
10-20-2010, 10:46 PM
The Giants have a great crowd too. They've been great all playoff long.

Viva Medias B's
10-20-2010, 10:47 PM
I think Timo Perez got one in 06. Iguchi was on the 08 Phillies for a time. I'm sure they got rings.

And I forgot John Rooney, while only a member through broadcasting, with the 2005 Sox and 2006 Redbirds.

Bucky F. Dent
10-20-2010, 10:47 PM
Way to go, Little Juan!

Viva Medias B's
10-20-2010, 10:48 PM
Did Buck and/or McCarver make any references to Uribe and Rowand vis-a-vis 2005?

RadioheadRocks
10-20-2010, 10:57 PM
Did Buck and/or McCarver make any references to Uribe and Rowand vis-a-vis 2005?


Knowing those two clowns they probably denied 2005 ever happened and have suppressed ALL memories of it.

TDog
10-20-2010, 11:03 PM
Still love that Uribe bat-flip, even on a sac fly that he thought was gone.

I don't believe he thought it was gone. He went into the at bat knowing he had to get a medium-deep fly to win the game.

Uribe drove in the fourth run in Saturday's Game 1 4-3 win with a two-out single. He has been playing great defense. He has been a huge part of this Giants team just as he was a huge part of the 2005 White Sox. Not that Uribe is the MVP. Buster Posey has had the most incredible rookie season I've ever seen from a position player.

The Giants still have to win one more game. The Phillies have three excellent starters going in the next three games.

Rockabilly
10-20-2010, 11:06 PM
Just got back from the game.. My wife is very excited that her Giants are one game away from the World Series..

Will be going to the game tomorrow as well.

JermaineDye05
10-20-2010, 11:08 PM
The Giants still have to win one more game. The Phillies have three excellent starters going in the next three games.

I'm so excited to see Doc vs. The Freak rematch.

I predicted earlier in the thread that Timmy would beat Roy twice this post season. He's done it once. Clinch it tomorrow, Tim.

happydude
10-20-2010, 11:17 PM
Did Buck and/or McCarver make any references to Uribe and Rowand vis-a-vis 2005?

Not that I've heard so far although I have missed an inning here and there of each of the last 3 games. I would have thought they would have pointed out that Uribe, Rowand, and Jose were teammates on the 2005 Champions; that type of stuff always seems to be a storyline at this time of the year. They did point out that Rowand was on the Phils when they made it to the playoffs in 2007. Too bad.

That superb play Juan made in the 9th tonight brought back fond memories.

TDog
10-20-2010, 11:35 PM
I'm so excited to see Doc vs. The Freak rematch.

I predicted earlier in the thread that Timmy would beat Roy twice this post season. He's done it once. Clinch it tomorrow, Tim.

I didn't expect a second matchup. I expected Halladay would go on short rest if the Phillies were down 2-1 in the series.

hawkjt
10-21-2010, 12:44 AM
I think Manuel made the right call. Halladay,Hamel and Oswalt on full rest was their best shot at pulling this out. Blanton was not horrible.

Juan is a clutch player...I knew he would get that run home. Wish he had played third for the Sox this year instead of having Teahen. Like Boche said afterwards, Juan has come thru countless times for them this year.

Gload got robbed by Juan and the ump. Rowand had a big throwout at home plate,and a big hit in yesterdays game.

Go Giants....and Rangers.

1989
10-21-2010, 01:15 AM
Buster Posey has done more in one playoff appearance as a rookie than Mauer has done in all of his playoff appearances combined.

If if hasn't happened already, Posey will eclipse Mauer as the game's best catcher in the not too distant future.

DaveFeelsRight
10-21-2010, 02:58 AM
uribe :)

TheOldRoman
10-21-2010, 09:01 AM
Question: Has any member of the 2005 White Sox later won a World Series ring with another team?I think Cotts won one with the Cubs. Marte won last year with the Yankees.

Gavin
10-21-2010, 09:01 AM
Juan Uribe had 10 sac fly's in 2005, tied for 3rd best in MLB with Carl Everett. If there was a stat for game winning sac fly's (GWSF), Juan Uribe would be on top.

wilburaga
10-21-2010, 09:29 AM
Walk-off Juanny, my favorite Sox alum.

SOXSINCE'70
10-21-2010, 09:30 AM
Not looking good for Doc and the boys. :(:

I don't want to say it's over, but dark clouds are loominh for my favorite NL team, The Phils.:(:

doublem23
10-21-2010, 09:32 AM
:roflmao:



That's nothing. Imagine how excited ESPN must feel at the prospect of a Rangers-Giants World Series.

:bandance:

Why would they care much, they don't broadcast any games.

MtGrnwdSoxFan
10-21-2010, 09:54 AM
Why would they care much, they don't broadcast any games.

They still gotta cover it. Although you know if the Yankees or Phillies aren't involved, it'll only get a 10-second splash on SC, in between the 20-minute verbal blowjobs of the Miami Heat and the half-hour on what's next for the Yankees and Red Sox.

TheOldRoman
10-21-2010, 10:58 AM
They still gotta cover it. Although you know if the Yankees or Phillies aren't involved, it'll only get a 10-second splash on SC, in between the 20-minute verbal blowjobs of the Miami Heat and the half-hour on what's next for the Yankees and Red Sox.Yep. They would only cover it in passing, between the mentioned segments on the Heat and the ESPN maintay "ZOMG!!11 FOOTBALL!!!!!!!!" Seeing as ESPN finds way to mention the NFL (positively, of course) on every broadcast even in the offseason when no news is made, they will focus on such things as recapping the incredibly exciting Monday Night Football matchup between the Titans and Jaguars for 4 days, and then previewing next weekend's matchup for the next two.

GoSox2K3
10-21-2010, 11:22 AM
Did Buck and/or McCarver make any references to Uribe and Rowand vis-a-vis 2005?

Why would they? It's only baseball magic and memories if it involves the Yankees, Red Sox, Cubs, Dodgers, Mets.

doublem23
10-21-2010, 11:28 AM
Yep. They would only cover it in passing, between the mentioned segments on the Heat and the ESPN maintay "ZOMG!!11 FOOTBALL!!!!!!!!" Seeing as ESPN finds way to mention the NFL (positively, of course) on every broadcast even in the offseason when no news is made, they will focus on such things as recapping the incredibly exciting Monday Night Football matchup between the Titans and Jaguars for 4 days, and then previewing next weekend's matchup for the next two.

That's because football blows baseball out of the water. You do realize Monday's ALCS game, between the ESPN' favorite Yankees and Rangers (from one of the largest metro areas in the country, too) got obliterated in the ratings by Monday Night Football, featuring a couple of also-ran teams from the AFC South from... Nashville and Jacksonville.

Marqhead
10-21-2010, 11:38 AM
Love seeing a Sweet Cheeks walk off.

TDog
10-21-2010, 11:49 AM
Did Buck and/or McCarver make any references to Uribe and Rowand vis-a-vis 2005?

Somebody on Fox mentioned that Rowand had wonwon it with the 2005 White Sox when talking about the veterans on the team who hadn't been playing despite being paid more than everyone else. During the extended Giants coverage in the Bay Area -- and it was estended -- they mentioned Uribe and Rowand had "of course" won rings with the White Sox in 2005.

TheOldRoman
10-21-2010, 11:59 AM
That's because football blows baseball out of the water. You do realize Monday's ALCS game, between the ESPN' favorite Yankees and Rangers (from one of the largest metro areas in the country, too) got obliterated in the ratings by Monday Night Football, featuring a couple of also-ran teams from the AFC South from... Nashville and Jacksonville.First off, no it didn't obliterate the ALCS. It did better (7.3 to 6.5), but it wasn't like it had double the viewers. Just like ESPN only reporting on the Yankees and Red Sox, when it comes to sports in general it is the NFL and everything else is far behind. It is a self fulfilling prophecy. ESPN doing NFL Live EVERY ****ING NIGHT from February through July, spending a month recapping the season, then spending a month talking aimlessly about free agents, then a month on the draft, followed by a month on OTAs helps assure the FOOTBALL!!1! mindset is kept strong. I bet if you watched ESPN Monday afternoon, they likely had their normal 7 hour pregame show with almost no mention of baseball existing. If they gave the ACLS that much attention, it likely would have had a few more viewers.

It is silly that such a meaningless game got higher rating than the ALCS, but it isn't shocking. A large part of the reason football is so popular is that it's easy to follow. You don't devote any time to it as with other sports. It is essentially one day a week. When do the Bears play? Sunday. Every Sunday. Except for the rare times they play on a Monday or the one off week per year. When are they on? Noon. Sometimes 3:00, but even if so, enjoy another game beforehand. If they have a Sunday night game, enjoy two games beforehand. What channel are they on? Fox most of the time, but CBS twice a year. When do the Blackhawks or Bulls play? Who knows? You have to keep a calendar at your desk just to remember there is a game tonight, what time it starts, and whether it is on WGN, WCIU, CSN or CSN+. Monday Night Football happens every Monday from Sept through December, so people knew this game was going to be on ESPN at 7:30. With the baseball playoffs, people didn't know for sure there would be a game on, they didn't know what time a game would start, and they didn't know what channel it would be on, either (TBS has baseball now?). There is a big difference. I am a football fan, too, so I am not bashing it. The fact remaints there are a lot of details which make football lend itself to popularity more easily.

JermaineDye05
10-21-2010, 12:54 PM
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BringHomeDaBacon
10-21-2010, 12:58 PM
First off, no it didn't obliterate the ALCS. It did better (7.3 to 6.5), but it wasn't like it had double the viewers. Just like ESPN only reporting on the Yankees and Red Sox, when it comes to sports in general it is the NFL and everything else is far behind. It is a self fulfilling prophecy. ESPN doing NFL Live EVERY ****ING NIGHT from February through July, spending a month recapping the season, then spending a month talking aimlessly about free agents, then a month on the draft, followed by a month on OTAs helps assure the FOOTBALL!!1! mindset is kept strong. I bet if you watched ESPN Monday afternoon, they likely had their normal 7 hour pregame show with almost no mention of baseball existing. If they gave the ACLS that much attention, it likely would have had a few more viewers.

It is silly that such a meaningless game got higher rating than the ALCS, but it isn't shocking. A large part of the reason football is so popular is that it's easy to follow. You don't devote any time to it as with other sports. It is essentially one day a week. When do the Bears play? Sunday. Every Sunday. Except for the rare times they play on a Monday or the one off week per year. When are they on? Noon. Sometimes 3:00, but even if so, enjoy another game beforehand. If they have a Sunday night game, enjoy two games beforehand. What channel are they on? Fox most of the time, but CBS twice a year. When do the Blackhawks or Bulls play? Who knows? You have to keep a calendar at your desk just to remember there is a game tonight, what time it starts, and whether it is on WGN, WCIU, CSN or CSN+. Monday Night Football happens every Monday from Sept through December, so people knew this game was going to be on ESPN at 7:30. With the baseball playoffs, people didn't know for sure there would be a game on, they didn't know what time a game would start, and they didn't know what channel it would be on, either (TBS has baseball now?). There is a big difference. I am a football fan, too, so I am not bashing it. The fact remaints there are a lot of details which make football lend itself to popularity more easily.

This and the fact that it's more fun to watch.

1989
10-21-2010, 01:00 PM
This and the fact that it's more fun to watch.

if you like commercials

russ99
10-21-2010, 01:59 PM
Should be a fantastic game tonight. Go Giants!

MtGrnwdSoxFan
10-21-2010, 02:02 PM
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For whatever reason, the "That 70s Show" theme came to my head when I saw that.

"We're all all right! We're all all right!!"

Nellie_Fox
10-21-2010, 02:13 PM
This and the fact that it's more fun to watch.That's a matter of opinion.

doublem23
10-21-2010, 02:39 PM
For whatever reason, the "That 70s Show" theme came to my head when I saw that.

"We're all all right! We're all all right!!"

Are you referring to the GIF? Because it's the opening sequence to That 70's Show, just with the heads of the actors replaced with Giants players.

JermaineDye05
10-21-2010, 03:38 PM
Are you referring to the GIF? Because it's the opening sequence to That 70's Show, just with the heads of the actors replaced with Giants players.

Actually that's a scene from the Seinfeld episode when Kramer is fighting the little kids in karate. The mom is driving them all to class and Kramer is acting like a little kid.

Marqhead
10-21-2010, 03:53 PM
Actually that's a scene from the Seinfeld episode when Kramer is fighting the little kids in karate. The mom is driving them all to class and Kramer is acting like a little kid.

BURNNNNNN!!!!11!

Funny gif.

JermaineDye05
10-21-2010, 03:54 PM
BURNNNNNN!!!!11!

Funny gif.

Yeah, I found it while browsing other forums. I unfortunately cannot claim it as my own. Just felt the need to pay forward the hilarity.

WhiteSox5187
10-21-2010, 03:56 PM
BURNNNNNN!!!!11!

Funny gif.

I think that if you look in the cab behind the main car, Barry Zito can be seen.

Marqhead
10-21-2010, 04:00 PM
I think that if you look in the cab behind the main car, Barry Zito can be seen.

Good catch, didn't see that the first time.

doublem23
10-21-2010, 04:05 PM
BURNNNNNN!!!!11!

Funny gif.

:redface:

I'm out of touch with Seinfeld.

It's a sweet GIF, though. Brian Wilson is amazing.

Marqhead
10-21-2010, 04:07 PM
:redface:

I'm out of touch with Seinfeld.

It's a sweet GIF, though. Brian Wilson is amazing.

After Juan Uribe, for obvious reasons, Brian Wilson is my favorite player in the post season.

TDog
10-21-2010, 04:31 PM
This and the fact that it's more fun to watch.

I agree that baseball is much more fun to watch than football, which puts me to sleep.

Unless I'm mistaken as to your pronoun's antecedent. If so, I would have to disagree and commend the Rangers for not running out the clock in their Game 1 loss to the Yankees.

whitesox4eva
10-21-2010, 06:54 PM
After Juan Uribe, for obvious reasons, Brian Wilson is my favorite player in the post season.

Cody Ross is my fav. He is a machine! :bandance:

Go Freak!! :bandance::bandance:

JermaineDye05
10-21-2010, 07:12 PM
Utley boots it!!

1-0 Giants :bandance::bandance::bandance:

Baseball gods like the Giants.

JermaineDye05
10-21-2010, 07:21 PM
Lincecum's got nintendo stuff. He's also got a nintendo like body.

JermaineDye05
10-21-2010, 07:36 PM
Halladay just doesn't look comfortable out there.

43 pitches through 2 innings. A lot of 3 ball counts, and he's been shaking off Ruiz a lot.

1-0 Giants after 2.

JermaineDye05
10-21-2010, 07:42 PM
Umpires blow another call.

Called Halladay's bunt attempt fair. :scratch:

It was clearly foul.

And of course after that, Huff boots it.

2-1 Philadelphia.

Marqhead
10-21-2010, 07:42 PM
Hey look! Another blown call!

JermaineDye05
10-21-2010, 07:44 PM
Hey look! Another blown call!

Seriously, I think the fans could call a better game. This is ridiculous. How the hell do you call that ball fair?

JermaineDye05
10-21-2010, 07:46 PM
I'm getting the feeling we're gonna be looking at that blown call a lot by the end of this game. Lincecum was rolling along before that.

3-1 Phillies.

WhiteSox5187
10-21-2010, 07:50 PM
Lincecum is starting look a bit rattled out there now.

JermaineDye05
10-21-2010, 07:51 PM
Lincecum is starting look a bit rattled out there now.

Well, in his defense, the HP umpire and his defense let him down.

JermaineDye05
10-21-2010, 07:56 PM
To further express my displeasure for that inning, I would like to mention how Twins like that was.

1) bloop hit by Ibanez
2) Carlos Ruiz turns into a pitch and hits himself. Makes no effort to move out of the way.
3) Lucky break for the Phillies with a blown call by the HP umpire.
4) Error.

The rest is history.

#1swisher
10-21-2010, 08:30 PM
Starting to rain

WhiteSox5187
10-21-2010, 09:08 PM
Boy there are a ton of ex-Sox in this series.

WhiteSox5187
10-21-2010, 09:10 PM
Ross Gload hits the ball as hard as you can but right to Aubrey Huff for a double play.

Standing Ovation
10-21-2010, 09:13 PM
That hat was obnoxious.

Marqhead
10-21-2010, 09:15 PM
Boy there are a ton of ex-Sox in this series.

It's really pretty fun that way, on top of an exciting series.

getonbckthr
10-21-2010, 09:18 PM
That hat was obnoxious.
That whole outfit was obnoxious.

JermaineDye05
10-21-2010, 09:26 PM
When was the last time a team walked off to clinch a pennant?

I have a feeling that's gonna happen tonight.

WhiteSox5187
10-21-2010, 09:32 PM
When was the last time a team walked off to clinch a pennant?

I have a feeling that's gonna happen tonight.

I'm not sure, but I suspect that it is 1992, Sid Bream I think scored and ended the Pirates hopes for a pennant.

WhiteSox5187
10-21-2010, 09:43 PM
When was the last time a team walked off to clinch a pennant?

I have a feeling that's gonna happen tonight.

How stupid of me to forget 2006 and Magglio Ordonez.

JermaineDye05
10-21-2010, 10:14 PM
That blown call in the 3rd really changed the complexion of this game. That's really unfortunate. Umpires strike again.

Viva Medias B's
10-21-2010, 10:22 PM
That blown call in the 3rd really changed the complexion of this game. That's really unfortunate. Umpires strike again.

EXPAND INSTANT REPLAY! And don't give me this "human element" crap.

jfinsocal
10-21-2010, 11:53 PM
The foul ball at home plate hit by Doc really changed the complexion of the game. Maybe the ump was screened who knows.

If the Rangers and Phils advance I wonder if they'll have The Wild Thing throw out the first ball at one of the games? If so, I suspect Philly fan would abuse him because he yielded the Joe Carter walk off.

hawkjt
10-22-2010, 09:01 AM
I heard the umpire on BBTonite discuss the bunt call. He maintains that when you extend the baselines to the back of the plate,with the line part of fair territory, that the ball was in play and the home plate ump made the right call. I think it is close,but not an agregiously bad call. It did fall off the side of the plate but not behind the plate,so it could have been fair.

I am rooting for the Giants and Rangers,but I admit I like game 6's and game 7's if they occur in both series. Nothing like the tension in those games.

If it is a Giants/Rangers series, not sure who I will root for.
If it is Phillies/Yankees, no one to root for.
Otherwise, it will be clearcut...Giants over Yanks,or Rangers over Phils.

Watching last nite,I thought how in 2005 the Sox home crowd never did even go into a game with a chance to clinch like the Giants home crowd had tonite. Feast or famine in those situations. Only in the 2008 tiebreak game was there that kind of anticipation in Sox park...and that was very cool.

Rangers fans get to have ecstacy or agony this weekend. Same with Phillies fans....wish it was the Sox:whiner:

palehozenychicty
10-22-2010, 09:03 AM
I heard the umpire on BBTonite discuss the bunt call. He maintains that when you extend the baselines to the back of the plate,with the line part of fair territory, that the ball was in play and the home plate ump made the right call. I think it is close,but not an agregiously bad call. It did fall off the side of the plate but not behind the plate,so it could have been fair.

I am rooting for the Giants and Rangers,but I admit I like game 6's and game 7's if they occur in both series. Nothing like the tension in those games.

If it is a Giants/Rangers series, not sure who I will root for.
If it is Phillies/Yankees, no one to root for.
Otherwise, it will be clearcut...Giants over Yanks,or Rangers over Phils.

Watching last nite,I thought how in 2005 the Sox home crowd never did even go into a game with a chance to clinch like the Giants home crowd had tonite. Feast or famine in those situations. Only in the 2008 tiebreak game was there that kind of anticipation in Sox park...and that was very cool.

Rangers fans get to have ecstacy or agony this weekend. Same with Phillies fans....wish it was the Sox:whiner:

If the Sox get a RF, DH, closer, and sign Konerko, it'll be all good.

chisox616
10-22-2010, 09:14 AM
This Giant team is one of the most entertaining non-Sox teams I've gotten the pleasure to watch in any post season. There's just something about them. Maybe it's how awesome their uniforms are, how awesome their players are, and how awesome their crowd looks, let alone the ballpark.

There's nobody you hate on that team. There's nobody you're rooting against. Plus, they stand in the way of a 3 time NL champion Phillies team and honestly, I'm bored with the Phillies.

I'm actually outright excited when something good happens for the Giants. I never felt this before outside of the Sox and occasionally Cardinals.

LongLiveFisk
10-22-2010, 10:23 AM
Rangers fans get to have ecstacy or agony this weekend. Same with Phillies fans....wish it was the Sox:whiner:

Not if agony would have prevailed. :wink:

Exciting series in both of these leagues. I never would have imagined! :thumbsup:

RadioheadRocks
10-23-2010, 09:12 PM
Wow this thread's being mighty quiet tonight

JermaineDye05
10-23-2010, 09:26 PM
Bumgarner manned up that inning.

Sockinchisox
10-23-2010, 09:55 PM
Profundo!

Huisj
10-23-2010, 09:55 PM
Juan!

JermaineDye05
10-23-2010, 09:55 PM
URIBE GOES DEEP!!!

3-2 Giants!

:bandance::bandance::bandance:

Brian26
10-23-2010, 09:55 PM
Uribe loves the moment. Unbelievable.

ChiSoxGal85
10-23-2010, 09:57 PM
that was awesome! Thanks, Juan!

rookie
10-23-2010, 09:58 PM
:D: Uribe! I hope that's the game winning run.

RadioheadRocks
10-23-2010, 09:58 PM
Yeah Juanie! : )

Huisj
10-23-2010, 10:00 PM
Lincecum pitching the 8th? Weird.

russ99
10-23-2010, 10:02 PM
Mr Clutch!!

You go Juan Uribe. :gulp:

MeteorsSox4367
10-23-2010, 10:03 PM
C'mon, Lincecum. Three outs, dude.

Viva Medias B's
10-23-2010, 10:06 PM
Why are they pitching Lincecum?

WhiteSox5187
10-23-2010, 10:06 PM
Lincecum pitching the 8th? Weird.

On one day's rest too, this is shocking to me. I would figure you would want him in case this goes seven because if it goes seven, Halladay will probably be making an appearance out of the Phillies bullpen.

JermaineDye05
10-23-2010, 10:09 PM
Bochy's made some questionable moves this series. He pulled Bumgarner early in game 4 and now Lincecum in the 8th? :scratch:

WhiteSox5187
10-23-2010, 10:11 PM
Bochy's made some questionable moves this series. He pulled Bumgarner early in game 4 and now Lincecum in the 8th? :scratch:

I just didn't understand that move at all. If it were game seven, yea, I'd get it. But game six? When you're ahead in the series? And Lincecum is on one day's rest? I don't get it.

Brian26
10-23-2010, 10:18 PM
Managers used to do this all the time in the 50s and 60s. I like the move. You bring in your best pitcher to try to nail down one of the last two innings to take you to the World Series. Don't let it go to a game seven.

Viva Medias B's
10-23-2010, 10:18 PM
I just didn't understand that move at all. If it were game seven, yea, I'd get it. But game six? When you're ahead in the series? And Lincecum is on one day's rest? I don't get it.

Well, Bochy lifted Lincecum and they got out of the inning.

MarkZ35
10-23-2010, 10:21 PM
Anxious to see Brian Wilson hit

WhiteSox5187
10-23-2010, 10:26 PM
Well, Bochy lifted Lincecum and they got out of the inning.

True, it worked but it was a hard hit ball. The Phillies have lined into a lot of double plays.

Meanwhile we are two outs away from Fox's nightmare, a Giants-Rangers World Series.

RadioheadRocks
10-23-2010, 10:28 PM
True, it worked but it was a hard hit ball. The Phillies have lined into a lot of double plays.

Meanwhile we are two outs away from Fox's nightmare, a Giants-Rangers World Series.



... and I couldn't be happier! Suck on it Fox, Buck and McCarver!!!!!!!!!!

ZombieRob
10-23-2010, 10:28 PM
Who's this guy with the Dyed beard?

JermaineDye05
10-23-2010, 10:30 PM
I am not too confident in Wilson. He just looks too wild out there.

got a bad feeling here.

JermaineDye05
10-23-2010, 10:34 PM
Wilson has turned into Bobby Jenks.

Throw ****ing strikes. You're one out away from the world series.

SoxandtheCityTee
10-23-2010, 10:34 PM
Holy ****. And Howard is massively overdue.

Brian26
10-23-2010, 10:35 PM
Was Wilson Valdez on the Sox in 2004?

There are ex-Sox all over the place in this game.

JermaineDye05
10-23-2010, 10:35 PM
Wilson is walking his team out of the world series.

WhiteSox5187
10-23-2010, 10:36 PM
One way or another I think this game ends with this at bat.

JermaineDye05
10-23-2010, 10:37 PM
Throw a ****ing strike!!!!

LongLiveFisk
10-23-2010, 10:38 PM
The fans can hardly watch....wow...

SoxandtheCityTee
10-23-2010, 10:38 PM
Congrats to the Giants.

MarkZ35
10-23-2010, 10:39 PM
Was Wilson Valdez on the Sox in 2004?

There are ex-Sox all over the place in this game.
Yea that's the same Wilson Valdez. What was there, 6 or 7 between the two teams?

RadioheadRocks
10-23-2010, 10:39 PM
Yes! Wouldn't mind seeing Rowand and Uribe earn another ring :D:

LongLiveFisk
10-23-2010, 10:39 PM
Good for the Giants! :D:

Howard goes down on strikes.. maybe just a little too close to take.

WhiteSox5187
10-23-2010, 10:39 PM
Just another fantastic game in a fantastic series. Now go Texas.

whitesox4eva
10-23-2010, 10:39 PM
Giants vs Rangers World Series....couldn't be happier (unless it was the White Sox of course). I'm hoping the Rangers win it all, and I think they will. :bandance::bandance:

Brian26
10-23-2010, 10:39 PM
Shame on Ryan Howard.

JermaineDye05
10-23-2010, 10:40 PM
YES!!!!

:bandance::bandance::bandance:

Both teams clinched it on a called third strike that was pretty much the exact same pitch.

Brian26
10-23-2010, 10:40 PM
Howard goes down on strikes.. maybe just a little too close to take.

Pitch was right down the middle.

LongLiveFisk
10-23-2010, 10:42 PM
Pitch was right down the middle.

When I saw the replay, I was thinking of how he must have been kicking himself after that one. If you must go down on a pitch that close, then go down swinging.

MeteorsSox4367
10-23-2010, 10:42 PM
The Giants win the pennant! The Giants win the pennant!

Giants-Rangers World Series. Nice.

Giants in 6.

JermaineDye05
10-23-2010, 10:43 PM
Call me crazy, but I actually think Fox's ratings will go up since the Yankees and Phillies are not involved.

rookie
10-23-2010, 10:43 PM
Yes! Wouldn't mind seeing Rowand and Uribe earn another ring :D:

Gotta root for the AL but I am happy for our 2005 players!

Konerkoholic
10-23-2010, 10:43 PM
Shades of Beltran '06 right there with Howard. I like the quote from Aubrey Huff about Uribe: "You live and die with him." So true. Never boring with Juanny!

Woofer
10-23-2010, 10:44 PM
For as much ribbing Juan got during the "Juan Uribe Era" here on the South Side, Uribe has had himself a pretty good career. Good Luck to Juan and Rowand against the Rangers. They are going to have their hands full.

Rockabilly
10-23-2010, 10:44 PM
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I will be at game 1 & 2..

Viva Medias B's
10-23-2010, 10:45 PM
Meanwhile in Bristol, Connecticut:

:chunks

JermaineDye05
10-23-2010, 10:46 PM
Uribe makes a good case for MVP. Though I think it will go to Ross.

MeteorsSox4367
10-23-2010, 10:48 PM
Meanwhile in Bristol, Connecticut:

:chunks

Maybe they'll remind everyone that the Giants were originally in New York.

LongLiveFisk
10-23-2010, 10:49 PM
Meanwhile in Bristol, Connecticut:

:chunks

http://beckyyamamoto.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/dawson-crying.jpg

Hendu
10-23-2010, 10:49 PM
I love Juan Uribe. This is going to be a fun World Series...Texas looks tough but this could go either way.

y2j2785
10-23-2010, 10:54 PM
Cody Ross NLCS MVP

Brian26
10-23-2010, 10:54 PM
Uribe makes a good case for MVP. Though I think it will go to Ross.

Not really. They flashed a stat up before his homerun. I thought he was 0-for-11 before that at-bat. Even with the sac fly the other night, that's a pretty bad series. He got lucky at the right moment though.

voodoochile
10-23-2010, 10:55 PM
Two straight nights a pennant is decided on a called strike three. Last night wasn't that big of a deal Yankees were getting beat soundly. Tonight though Howard batting, tying run at second winning run at first and a full count. Gotta protect the plate better than that...

Brian26
10-23-2010, 10:55 PM
Cleveland and the Cubs. :rolling:

JermaineDye05
10-23-2010, 10:55 PM
Not really. They flashed a stat up before his homerun. I thought he was 0-for-11 before that at-bat. Even with the sac fly the other night, that's a pretty bad series. He got lucky at the right moment though.

I'm gonna get railed for quoting Hawk.

Don't tell me what you hit, tell me when you hit it.

Brian26
10-23-2010, 10:57 PM
Two straight nights a pennant is decided on a called strike three. Last night wasn't that big of a deal Yankees were getting beat soundly. Tonight though Howard batting, tying run at second winning run at first and a full count. Gotta protect the plate better than that...

Shame on him. He's their cleanup hitter too. It's not like Carlos Ruiz, batting 8th, was trying to eek out a walk. Big time choke-job by Howard.

JermaineDye05
10-23-2010, 10:57 PM
Two straight nights a pennant is decided on a called strike three. Last night wasn't that big of a deal Yankees were getting beat soundly. Tonight though Howard batting, tying run at second winning run at first and a full count. Gotta protect the plate better than that...

I thought it was a little poor sportsmanship on Howard's part to argue there. The call's not gonna get reversed. Just take it. It's not like the ball was ridiculously outside or low. Just tip your cap and walk back to the dugout.

voodoochile
10-23-2010, 10:58 PM
I thought it was a little poor sportsmanship on Howard's part to argue there. The call's not gonna get reversed. Just take it. It's not like the ball was ridiculously outside or low. Just tip your cap and walk back to the dugout.

I thought it was strike three watching on TV.

MeteorsSox4367
10-23-2010, 10:59 PM
It even looked as though the home-plate ump (Hallion?) waited a split-second before ringing up Howard.

Brian26
10-23-2010, 11:00 PM
Not really. They flashed a stat up before his homerun. I thought he was 0-for-11 before that at-bat. Even with the sac fly the other night, that's a pretty bad series. He got lucky at the right moment though.

My bad, we has 1-for-11 going into the game. He went 2-for-3 tonight, so he batted .214 for the series but had two game-winning RBIs.

Brian26
10-23-2010, 11:02 PM
Imagine where things would be right now if the Phillies didn't get rid of Cliff Lee before the start of the season.

cards press box
10-23-2010, 11:04 PM
For as much ribbing Juan got during the "Juan Uribe Era" here on the South Side, Uribe has had himself a pretty good career. Good Luck to Juan and Rowand against the Rangers. They are going to have their hands full.

The Giants have three ex-White Sox: Juan Uribe, Aaron Rowand and Javier Lopez. Good luck to all of them!

It was nice to see Uribe make so many clutch plays in another playoff run. This should be a fun World Series.

russ99
10-23-2010, 11:10 PM
I thought it was strike three watching on TV.

Looked a bit low to me, certainly borderline, but it was dropping. Legitimate call, IMO.

Howard has only himself to blame for not protecting the plate, especially considering the situation.

voodoochile
10-23-2010, 11:14 PM
It even looked as though the home-plate ump (Hallion?) waited a split-second before ringing up Howard.

I don't have an objection to that. I prefer an ump doesn't rush into a judgment they won't be willing to change once they make it. I have read from good umps that they like to take a split second to confirm in their own head that they saw what they saw before they make the call.

That's a huge call to make you don't want to ever wonder if you got it wrong, especially with all the heat the umps have been taking this past year.

TDog
10-23-2010, 11:25 PM
I thought it was a little poor sportsmanship on Howard's part to argue there. The call's not gonna get reversed. Just take it. It's not like the ball was ridiculously outside or low. Just tip your cap and walk back to the dugout.

If you watch old film of the end of Don Larsen's perfect game in the 1956 World Series, you can see pinch-hitter Dale Mitchell turn and argue with the home plate umpire as Yogi Berra leaps up and runs out to hug his pitcher.

On ESPN radio before Game 5, Aaron Rowand was talking about how in 2005, the White Sox played in so many close games, and when they got to the postseason, it seemed natural to win them, and he felt the same thing was going on with the Giants this year. This has been a phenomenal baseball year for San Francisco. The Phillies have a much better lineup. The The Phillies have three awesomely good starters. The Phillies had the experience. And the Giants won two out of three games in Philadelphia and two out of three games in San Francisco.

Of course, Juan Uribe wasn't the MVP of the NLCS. But he drove in the winning run in two games and drove in what proved to be the difference (a game-winning run is one that puts your team ahead for good, not necessarily the difference in the game). Watching Giants players coming up to him in the dugout and hugging him gave me chills. Just one more castoff on a team filled with castoffs. At the end of the 2005 World Series, he made the difference with his glove. As the Giants won the pennant tonight, at the end Uribe made the difference with his bat.

And tonight, Benji Molina knows that no matter what happens, he'll get a ring this season from the World Series champions.

The Dude
10-23-2010, 11:30 PM
Two straight nights a pennant is decided on a called strike three. Last night wasn't that big of a deal Yankees were getting beat soundly. Tonight though Howard batting, tying run at second winning run at first and a full count. Gotta protect the plate better than that...

I said the exact same thing. From one of your best hitters especially! Leaving the bat on your shoulders for a called third strike is not acceptable.

The Dude
10-23-2010, 11:30 PM
Imagine where things would be right now if the Phillies didn't get rid of Cliff Lee before the start of the season.

Bone head decision. They deserve this and I'm glad.

Hendu
10-23-2010, 11:40 PM
I said the exact same thing. From one of your best hitters especially! Leaving the bat on your shoulders for a called third strike is not acceptable.

In his defense though that pitch on 3-2 would fool almost everybody after all the 96-97 mph gas. Looks like a fastball that'll stay outside and all of a sudden it breaks through the back door. Just gotta tip your cap to Wilson there. Gutsy pitch.

gogosox675
10-23-2010, 11:50 PM
The fact that Howard didn't have a single RBI in the playoffs just blows my mind.

JermaineDye05
10-23-2010, 11:53 PM
The fact that Howard didn't have a single RBI in the playoffs just blows my mind.

Good pitching beats good hitting. I don't think Vlad had a single RBI in the 05 ALCS. Hell, I think he had like one hit.

gogosox675
10-23-2010, 11:59 PM
Good pitching beats good hitting. I don't think Vlad had a single RBI in the 05 ALCS. Hell, I think he had like one hit.

I knew he struggled against the Giants, but I figured he at least could have done something against the Reds. It sure was nice to see the Giants staff shut down Howard and the rest of the Phillies, though.

Hitmen77
10-24-2010, 12:02 AM
The Phillies bid for a 3rd straight pennant is over. ....no, I'm not paraphrasing Chris Berman:redneck, I'm just remarking that the last NL team to make 3 straight WS appearances was the 1942-44 Cardinals. Their distinction will stand for at least another 2 years.

Both LCSs were great this year. Shame on any fans out there who think baseball is boring if Boston or New York (or perhaps a few other teams) aren't involved (yes, I know NY was involved in the ALCS). Most of the "LDSs" were great to this year. .....so I'm looking forward to that trend continuing with a great World Series of SF vs. Texas.

I don't know if it's just me, but this seems to be the most exciting over all playoffs in a really long time. Of course, nothing tops the '05 White Sox run for me, but I'm talking about overall playoffs and not just one team's march through the playoffs.

Hitmen77
10-24-2010, 12:04 AM
....oh, and while I still hate the idea of a November World Series I guess MLB doesn't have to worry about freezing weather with Texas and San Francisco in the fall classic.

Hendu
10-24-2010, 12:07 AM
The fact that Howard didn't have a single RBI in the playoffs just blows my mind.

He definitely should have gotten one when he hit that 2-out gapper with Rollins on first. I couldn't believe it when I saw Rollins pull up at 3rd...his jump must have been horrible.

Lip Man 1
10-24-2010, 12:14 AM
Rollins played with a bad groin.

Lip

TDog
10-24-2010, 12:19 AM
Hitmen, your signature leaves out the 1969 Mets (but Ron Santo's not bitter), the 1980 Royals, the 1982 Brewers, the 1984 Padres (but Ron Santo's not bitter), the 1992 Blue Jays, the 2001 Diamondbacks, the 2002 Angels, and the 2003 Marlins (but Ron Santo's not bitter).

Winning a championship in baseball isn't easy. Just getting to the World Series is a huge deal. As a White Sox fan, I am happy I know what it's like for my team to win it.

StillMissOzzie
10-24-2010, 12:35 AM
First off, congratulations to the Giants. They earned the NL pennant with a hard-fought victory.

Good for the Giants! :D:

Howard goes down on strikes.. maybe just a little too close to take.

Pitch was right down the middle.

I thought that the last pitch looked even better than Fox's PitchTrak, or whatever they call their pitch-mapping system. In any even, WAY too close to take. Even my daughter's softball coach tells them not to take strike 3.

SMO
:gulp:

flo-B-flo
10-24-2010, 01:09 AM
Uribe!

Boondock Saint
10-24-2010, 03:21 AM
Shades of Beltran '06 right there with Howard. I like the quote from Aubrey Huff about Uribe: "You live and die with him." So true. Never boring with Juanny!

That was the first thing I thought when I saw it. Both superstar players (at the time), both in a position to win the game, both stare down strike three to end the game.

Johnny Mostil
10-24-2010, 07:30 AM
Hitmen, your signature leaves out the 1969 Mets (but Ron Santo's not bitter), the 1980 Royals, the 1982 Brewers, the 1984 Padres (but Ron Santo's not bitter), the 1992 Blue Jays, the 2001 Diamondbacks, the 2002 Angels, and the 2003 Marlins (but Ron Santo's not bitter).

Winning a championship in baseball isn't easy. Just getting to the World Series is a huge deal. As a White Sox fan, I am happy I know what it's like for my team to win it.

Probably better to list the 1997 Marlins if HM updates the list.

Hitmen77
10-24-2010, 09:05 AM
Hitmen, your signature leaves out the 1969 Mets (but Ron Santo's not bitter), the 1980 Royals, the 1982 Brewers, the 1984 Padres (but Ron Santo's not bitter), the 1992 Blue Jays, the 2001 Diamondbacks, the 2002 Angels, and the 2003 Marlins (but Ron Santo's not bitter).

Winning a championship in baseball isn't easy. Just getting to the World Series is a huge deal. As a White Sox fan, I am happy I know what it's like for my team to win it.

Yeah, I just listed the most recent "first time" pennant winners. Thanks for the complete list. I guess that means the Mets were the first expansion team ever to win a pennant (and WS too). I think the Marlins first won it all in 1997 (but that doesn't change how Santo feels about them:redneck)

I agree that winning a championship isn't easy....only one of 30 teams can win it....and only one of 14 or 16 teams can win a pennant. If all franchises were equal (and they aren't, of course), that would still mean a 15 year avg. wait for a pennant and a 30 yr avg wait for a WS win. I'm really glad we have 2005. ....just like i'd imagine Angels fans are glad they have 2002 after going pennant-less since their 1961 inception (and pennant-less since 2002 for that matter).

Hitmen77
10-24-2010, 09:13 AM
Imagine where things would be right now if the Phillies didn't get rid of Cliff Lee before the start of the season.

Just curious about this....they did get Halladay for Lee, so is the question whether the Phillies would have gone to the WS with Lee but no Halladay?

....or perhaps you mean that without that trade the Rangers wouldn't have ended up with Lee.

Brian26
10-24-2010, 09:33 AM
Just curious about this....they did get Halladay for Lee, so is the question whether the Phillies would have gone to the WS with Lee but no Halladay?

....or perhaps you mean that without that trade the Rangers wouldn't have ended up with Lee.

No, Halladay and Lee were separate transactions. They stated "financial considerations" for getting rid of Lee, but the Lee-to-Seattle and the Halladay-to-Philly deals were both made on the same day (December 16 last year). There was a strong segment of baseball minds that thought the Phillies should have kept Lee and bit the bullet money-wise, even if he were to leave after 2010 as a free agent.

If they kept Lee, a domino effect happens that would have re-shaped the playoffs. The Phillies never would have needed to acquire Oswalt. It's possible the Astros would have traded Oswalt to the Yankees or the Rangers. The Rangers never would have acquired Lee from Seattle. We could very easily be watching a Phillies vs. Tampa World Series right now.

wassagstdu
10-24-2010, 09:38 AM
Looked a bit low to me, certainly borderline, but it was dropping. Legitimate call, IMO.

Howard has only himself to blame for not protecting the plate, especially considering the situation.

Howard did a great imitation of Nick Swisher in a Sox uniform.

Uribe is pure clutch.

TDog
10-24-2010, 01:33 PM
Yeah, I just listed the most recent "first time" pennant winners. Thanks for the complete list. I guess that means the Mets were the first expansion team ever to win a pennant (and WS too). I think the Marlins first won it all in 1997 (but that doesn't change how Santo feels about them:redneck)

I agree that winning a championship isn't easy....only one of 30 teams can win it....and only one of 14 or 16 teams can win a pennant. If all franchises were equal (and they aren't, of course), that would still mean a 15 year avg. wait for a pennant and a 30 yr avg wait for a WS win. I'm really glad we have 2005. ....just like i'd imagine Angels fans are glad they have 2002 after going pennant-less since their 1961 inception (and pennant-less since 2002 for that matter).

I missed the Marlins, of course, but I was focusing on the irony that the long-suffering Cubs have seemed so close to getting to the World Series and generally have had their hopes dashed by expansion teams. Who would have thought when the Cubs were 8.5 games in first in mid-August 1969 that the expansion Mets would run away with the division in September, or that the Padres, a dismal expansion team that season that couldn't win games or draw fans, would win three straight when to eliminate the Cubs who were one win away from going to the World Series. Or that the Cubs, up 3-1 in the NLCS, with Zambrano, Prior and Wood lined up to pitch, the last two at home, would lose the pennant to a wild card team from Miami, in defiance to a joke from Back to the Future II 15 years earlier. (The "prediction" was for 2015, which isn't that far off.)

That's a hijack better suited for What's the Score, but it is just odd, and really comically tragic that things have worked out that way. And of course, if not for 2005, White Sox fans wouldn't be that far from a century themselves.

JermaineDye05
10-24-2010, 02:08 PM
Howard did a great imitation of Nick Swisher in a Sox uniform.

Uribe is pure clutch.

Coincidentally, so did Nick Swisher.

Hendu
10-24-2010, 04:16 PM
In his defense though that pitch on 3-2 would fool almost everybody after all the 96-97 mph gas. Looks like a fastball that'll stay outside and all of a sudden it breaks through the back door. Just gotta tip your cap to Wilson there. Gutsy pitch.

After watching the replays a few more times...damn there's no excuse for watching that go by. It was a great pitch but it had strike zone written all over it. I understand that strikeouts are part of the game and sometimes you just get fooled on a pitch, but in that situation? Very weak.

GoSox2K3
10-25-2010, 02:05 PM
It looks like only 24% of the people who voted in this poll were right about the outcome. No surprise, though. The Phillies were heavily favored.