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1989
10-09-2010, 11:09 PM
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Viva Medias B's
10-10-2010, 12:42 AM
Actually, wouldn't 1987 and 1991 render this moot?

Zakath
10-10-2010, 12:49 AM
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DSpivack
10-10-2010, 01:04 AM
Actually, wouldn't 1987 and 1991 render this moot?

Silly Viva, I don't think ration and reason belong in this thread!

GoSox2K3
10-10-2010, 01:09 AM
Actually, wouldn't 1987 and 1991 render this moot?

You mean the Twins have won the World Series twice since the Bears last won the Super Bowl? Nope, this is WSI. We just ignore facts that don't fit with what we're saying.

The Twins never win anything, Jim Thome was a nobody to Sox fans for 4 years, etc. Everyone just keep repeating it and we'll feel better about us getting embarrassed by the Twins year after year.

LoveYourSuit
10-10-2010, 01:37 AM
Actually, wouldn't 1987 and 1991 render this moot?


I have become immune to the ridiculous over the top exaggerated hate for the Twins on this board.

I realize as of the last 9 seasons they have become our #1 rival. I guess I call it rival since they have won 6 division titles to our 2 during those 9 seasons.

Perhaps the hate was the exact same for the now sorry ass Indians who took 6 of the first 7 AL Central Titles. We took one in 2000.

So it goes in cycles. If the Twins start sucking any time soon and become what the Indians are today, maybe the hate for them will go away. I just don't see anything historical about them were we should hold a hated grudge like Yankees/Red Sox, Cubs/Cardinals, or Giants/Dodgers.


I just find hard to prefer to cheer for the much more hated Yankees over any other team in baseball. Even the Twins for me. And perhaps the Cubs (dare I say).

asindc
10-10-2010, 01:55 AM
I have become immune to the ridiculous over the top exaggerated hate for the Twins on this board.

I realize as of the last 9 seasons they have become our #1 rival. I guess I call it rival since they have won 6 division titles to our 2 during those 9 seasons.

Perhaps the hate was the exact same for the now sorry ass Indians who took 6 of the first 7 AL Central Titles. We took one in 2000.

So it goes in cycles. If the Twins start sucking any time soon and become what the Indians are today, maybe the hate for them will go away. I just don't see anything historical about them were we should hold a hated grudge like Yankees/Red Sox, Cubs/Cardinals, or Giants/Dodgers.


I just find hard to prefer to cheer for the much more hated Yankees over any other team in baseball. Even the Twins for me. And perhaps the Cubs (dare I say).

It's not just Sox fans. Visit motownsports sometime to see the comments on the Twinkees there. I think there is a general feeling that the Twinkees are not quite as good as their ability to outlast their AL Central rivals would suggest. The Humpdome got a lot of blame for that (ask any Detroit fan about game 163 last year to get a similar reaction from them that you might read here), but it's more than that. I just posted in the Twinks/Yanks thread about the AL Central playoff record over the past 10 years. If you look at quality over quantity, guess who has the worst record among the four AL Central teams that have made the playoffs in that time? (Hint: It ain't Cleveland).

RadioheadRocks
10-10-2010, 02:00 AM
It's not just Sox fans. Visit motownsports sometime to see the comments on the Twinkees there. I think there is a general feeling that the Twinkees are not quite as good as their ability to outlast their AL Central rivals would suggest. The Humpdome got a lot of blame for that (ask any Detroit fan about game 163 last year to get a similar reaction from them that you might read here), but it's more than that. I just posted in the Twinks/Yanks thread about the AL Central playoff record over the past 10 years. If you look at quality over quantity, guess who has the worst record among the four AL Central teams that have made the playoffs in that time? (Hint: It ain't Cleveland).


To be fair, a good number of Twins comments on motownsports are due to our old buddy Timberbeeyotch posting over there.

Zakath
10-10-2010, 08:40 AM
It's not just Sox fans. Visit motownsports sometime to see the comments on the Twinkees there. I think there is a general feeling that the Twinkees are not quite as good as their ability to outlast their AL Central rivals would suggest. The Humpdome got a lot of blame for that (ask any Detroit fan about game 163 last year to get a similar reaction from them that you might read here), but it's more than that. I just posted in the Twinks/Yanks thread about the AL Central playoff record over the past 10 years. If you look at quality over quantity, guess who has the worst record among the four AL Central teams that have made the playoffs in that time? (Hint: It ain't Cleveland).

To wit: (2001-2010)

Twins - 6 playoff appearances. Reached ALCS once. Overall record: 6-21
Sox - 2 playoff appearances. 1 World Series title. Overall record: 12-4
Tigers - 1 playoff appearance. Reached World Series. Overall record: 8-5
Tribe - 2 playoff appearances. Reached ALCS once. Overall record: 8-8

Bob Roarman
10-10-2010, 02:21 PM
It's not just Sox fans. Visit motownsports sometime to see the comments on the Twinkees there. I think there is a general feeling that the Twinkees are not quite as good as their ability to outlast their AL Central rivals would suggest. The Humpdome got a lot of blame for that (ask any Detroit fan about game 163 last year to get a similar reaction from them that you might read here), but it's more than that. I just posted in the Twinks/Yanks thread about the AL Central playoff record over the past 10 years. If you look at quality over quantity, guess who has the worst record among the four AL Central teams that have made the playoffs in that time? (Hint: It ain't Cleveland).

It still doesn't make any sense, especially if it's Tigers fans complaining. That's not proving anything. This is an indictment on the team you root for, not the Twins. If the Twins are as average as everyone says they are, what the hell does that make the Sox or the Tigers? Blame the stadium the Twins played in? Every team ideally makes a team to take advantage of their ball park. You can easily turn that around on the Sox on how many home runs they hit from year to year at the Cell. Someone on this board said it best, the hatred of the Twins has become a fetish. They are a team that plays in one of the weaker divisions in baseball that can consistently beat it's bottom dwellers and runs into, almost year after year, one of the best teams in the league with the Yankees in the playoffs. This might be the third time in their recent history they get swept by the eventual World Champions.

1989
10-10-2010, 05:21 PM
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asindc
10-10-2010, 07:44 PM
It still doesn't make any sense, especially if it's Tigers fans complaining. That's not proving anything. This is an indictment on the team you root for, not the Twins. If the Twins are as average as everyone says they are, what the hell does that make the Sox or the Tigers? Blame the stadium the Twins played in? Every team ideally makes a team to take advantage of their ball park. You can easily turn that around on the Sox on how many home runs they hit from year to year at the Cell. Someone on this board said it best, the hatred of the Twins has become a fetish. They are a team that plays in one of the weaker divisions in baseball that can consistently beat it's bottom dwellers and runs into, almost year after year, one of the best teams in the league with the Yankees in the playoffs. This might be the third time in their recent history they get swept by the eventual World Champions.

That doesn't explain why the NYY couldn't beat Detroit or Cleveland when they met them in the playoffs. When the NYY run into someone not named Twins in the ALDS in the past 10 years, they are 1-4, with that one series win (3 games to 2) coming in 2001. Since then, the NYY have lost in the ALDS to LAAAAA twice, Detroit, and Cleveland. I'm guessing that it has not occurred to you that the Yanks might have been the eventual World Champions in 2002, 2005, 2006, or 2007 if they had not been beaten by those teams. In fact, the last time the NYY swept a team not named Twins in the playoffs was 1999 (by the way, only once since the 3-division format has been in place have the NYY gone on to win the World Series after sweeping the Twinkees... last year).

What this means is that since 2001, unless the NYY play the Twinkees in the ALDS, they don't advance. Your indignation about Sox fans' schadenfreude over the Twinkees' recent playoff futility would seem to be better placed on this site: www.twinkietown.com (http://www.twinkietown.com).

Marqhead
10-10-2010, 07:55 PM
In the spirit of Twins and Minnesota hating in general, I salute you 1989. :gulp:

Whitesox029
10-11-2010, 12:37 PM
There isn't a Sox fan on this board who would trade our 3 division titles and one World Series in the last 11 years for 6 division titles and 0 World Series titles (and appearances).

asindc
10-11-2010, 12:49 PM
There isn't a Sox fan on this board who would trade our 3 division titles and one World Series in the last 11 years for 6 division titles and 0 World Series titles (and appearances).

Actually, there is one who said he would (post #34), and another who said he could see both sides of the argument:

http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=116027

Interestingly enough, two Twinkees fans posted in that thread, with both saying that would rather have the Sox' decade. I'm still astounded that anyone would prefer no World Series titles and no AL pennants with 7 straight (at the time) playoff losses over a World Series title and a 12-4 playoff record.