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DirtySox
10-03-2010, 09:00 PM
1st Round:

1. Pittsburgh Pirates
2. Seattle Mariners
3. Arizona Diamondbacks
4. Baltimore Orioles
5. Kansas City Royals
6. Washington Nationals
7. Arizona Diamondbacks (Loux - unsigned)
8. Cleveland Indians
9. Chicago Cubs
10. San Diego Padres (Whitson - unsigned)
11. Houston Astros
12. Milwaukee Brewers
13. New York Mets
14. Florida Marlins
15. Milwaukee Brewers (Covey - unsigned)
16. Los Angeles Dodgers
17. Los Angeles Angels
18. Oakland Athletics
19. Boston Red Sox (V. Martinez - DET)
20. Colorado Rockies
21. Toronto Blue Jays
22. St. Louis Cardinals
23. Washington Nationals (Dunn - CWS)
24. Tampa Bay Rays (Crawford - BOS)
25. San Diego Padres
26. Boston Red Sox (Beltre - TEX)
27. Cincinnati Reds
28. Atlanta Braves
29. San Francisco Giants
30. Minnesota Twins
31. Tampa Bay Rays (R. Soriano - NYY)
32. Tampa Bay Rays
33. Texas Rangers (C. Lee - PHI)


Comp Round A:


34. Washington Nationals (Dunn - CWS)
35. Toronto Blue Jays (Downs - LAA)
36. Boston Red Sox (V. Martinez - DET)
37. Texas Rangers (C. Lee - PHI)
38. Tampa Bay Rays (R. Soriano - NYY)
39. Philadelphia Phillies (Werth - WAS)
40. Boston Red Sox (Beltre - TEX)
41. Tampa Bay Rays (Crawford - BOS)
42. Tampa Bay Rays (Balfour - OAK)
43. Arizona Diamondbacks (LaRoche - WAS)
44. New York Mets (Feliciano - NYY)
45. Colorado Rockies (Dotel - TOR)
46. Toronto Blue Jays (Buck - FLA)
47. Chicago White Sox (Putz - ARI)
48. San Diego Padres (Garland - LAD)
49. San Francisco Giants (Uribe - LAD)
50. Minnesota Twins (Hudson - SD)
51. New York Yankees (Vazquez - FLA)
52. Tampa Bay Rays (Hawpe - SD)
53. Toronto Blue Jays (Gregg - BAL)
54. San Diego Padres (Torrealba - TEX)
55. Minnesota Twins (Crain - CWS)
56. Tampa Bay Rays (Benoit - DET)
57. Toronto Blue Jays (Olivo - SEA)
58. San Diego Padres (Correia - PIT)
59. Tampa Bay Rays (Choate - FLA)
60. Tampa Bay Rays (Qualls - SD)


Second Round

61. Pittsburgh Pirates
62. Seattle Mariners
63. Arizona Diamondbacks
64. Baltimore Orioles
65. Kansas City Royals
66. Philadelphia Phillies (Werth - WAS)
67. Cleveland Indians
68. Chicago Cubs
69. Houston Astros
70. Milwaukee Brewers
71. New York Mets
72. Florida Marlins
73. Los Angeles Dodgers
74. Toronto Blue Jays (Downs - LAA)
75. Tampa Bay Rays (Balfour - OAK)
76. Detroit Tigers
77. Colorado Rockies
78. Toronto Blue Jays
79. St. Louis Cardinals
80. Chicago White Sox
81. Tampa Bay Rays
82. San Diego Padres
83. Texas Rangers
84. Cincinnati Reds
85. Atlanta Braves
86. San Francisco Giants
87. Minnesota Twins
88. New York Yankees
89. Tampa Bay Rays
90. Philadelphia Phillies


Third Round

91. Pittsburgh Pirates
92. Seattle Mariners
93. Arizona Diamondbacks
94. Baltimore Orioles
95. Kansas City Royals
96. Washington Nationals
97. Cleveland Indians
98. Chicago Cubs
99. Houston Astros
100. Milwaukee Brewers
101. New York Mets
102. Florida Marlins
103. Los Angeles Dodgers
104. Los Angeles Angels
105. Oakland Athletics
106. Detroit Tigers
107. Colorado Rockies
108. Toronto Blue Jays
109. St. Louis Cardinals
110. Chicago White Sox
111. Boston Red Sox
112. San Diego Padres
113. Texas Rangers
114. Cincinnati Reds
115. Atlanta Braves
116. San Francisco Giants
117. Minnesota Twins
118. New York Yankees
119. Tampa Bay Rays
120. Philadelphia Phillies


Comp Round B:

121. Seattle Mariners (Stanek - unsigned)


Rounds 4-50:


122. Pittsburgh Pirates
123. Seattle Mariners
124. Arizona Diamondbacks
125. Baltimore Orioles
126. Kansas City Royals
127. Washington Nationals
128. Cleveland Indians
129. Chicago Cubs
130. Houston Astros
131. Milwaukee Brewers
132. New York Mets
133. Florida Marlins
134. Los Angeles Dodgers
135. Los Angeles Angels
136. Oakland Athletics
137. Detroit Tigers
138. Colorado Rockies
139. Toronto Blue Jays
140. St. Louis Cardinals
141. Chicago White Sox
142. Boston Red Sox
143. San Diego Padres
144. Texas Rangers
145. Cincinnati Reds
146. Atlanta Braves
147. San Francisco Giants
148. Minnesota Twins
149. New York Yankees
150. Tampa Bay Rays
151. Philadelphia Phillies

DirtySox
10-03-2010, 09:18 PM
The White Sox stand to gain as many as 5 additional picks throughout the 1st, Supplemental, and 2nd round depending on free agent compensation. This is all dependent on PK, AJ, and Putz declining arbitration if offered, and then signing elsewhere.

PK and AJ are both Type A free agents at the moment. The declining of arbitration if offered will result in the eventual signing team forfeiting 2 picks to the White Sox. If the signing team is outside the first 18 picks, the White Sox gain their 1st round pick, as well as a Supplemental pick. If the signing team's 1st round pick is within the first 18, the White Sox gain that team's 2nd round pick in addition to a Supplemental pick.

Putz is at the moment a Type B free agent. The declining of arbitration if offered will result in White Sox gaining a Supplemental pick if he signs elsewhere. The signing team does not lose a selection.


Offseason deadlines have been moved up this year:
- The deadline to offer arbitration is now November 23rd.
- The deadline to accept or decline arbitration is November 30th.

PalehosePlanet
10-04-2010, 12:21 AM
I wouldn't offer AJ arbitration, would you?

There is no way anyone will offer him 7 million per year. He'd be crazy not to accept.

Also, what are the early rumblings, if any, as far as draft depth is concerned for 2011?

DirtySox
10-04-2010, 01:49 AM
I think it can go either way for AJ. He probably wants a multi-year deal and could get one with the weak catching market. Lip was mentioning how much of a mess AJ was earlier this year worrying about free agency. He might want nothing to do with a one year deal and opt for security elsewhere. The only reason I think the Sox wouldn't offer arbitration is if the amount he will likely be awarded will absolutely hamstring payroll, which is always a possibility.

PK and Putz will be offered arbitration without question though.

As far as the 2011 draft class, it is loaded. Both 2009 and 2010 were weak in comparison. It would very nice to have extra picks this coming year. Though with the Sox track record, they won't be splurging on extra picks. Cheap is par for the course.

GAsoxfan
10-04-2010, 10:04 AM
I see both sides of the argument for AJ, but I would personally offer him arbitration. I think the upside of two high draft picks is worth the risk of paying AJ $7M on a one-year deal.

EMachine10
10-04-2010, 11:28 AM
I see both sides of the argument for AJ, but I would personally offer him arbitration. I think the upside of two high draft picks is worth the risk of paying AJ $7M on a one-year deal.
Agreed. I still think Flowers may one day be a serviceable MLB catcher (IMO, his struggles really happened after taking advice from Walker ~ 1 month into the season). I wouldn't necessarily be really comfortable with him handling the duties next year, though. I'd love to see AJ here and have his mind settled.

DirtySox
10-04-2010, 11:38 AM
I see both sides of the argument for AJ, but I would personally offer him arbitration. I think the upside of two high draft picks is worth the risk of paying AJ $7M on a one-year deal.

These are my thoughts as well. The Sox desperately need to improve the farm to better situate themselves for sustained success. The farm is bottom 3 in all baseball right now. The possibility of having 6 picks in the first 3 rounds (1, S, 2) is very nice in what looks like a deep draft class. The Sox need to take advantage and actually spend if this situation comes to fruition.

CPditka
10-04-2010, 11:41 AM
I think you have to offer arb to PK, Putz, and AJ. AJ is the only questionable one. Either you bring him back for 1 more year (and probably only that) at an inflated salary, or you get picks for him. And with our farm system, we really need the high picks. I think he will want a multiyear deal.

As much as Ive liked AJ in the past, Im hoping for the later. We need compensatory picks. It has really helped some of the successful org's.

doublem23
10-04-2010, 12:40 PM
I think you have to offer arb to PK, Putz, and AJ. AJ is the only questionable one. Either you bring him back for 1 more year (and probably only that) at an inflated salary, or you get picks for him. And with our farm system, we really need the high picks. I think he will want a multiyear deal.

As much as Ive liked AJ in the past, Im hoping for the later. We need compensatory picks. It has really helped some of the successful org's.

I honestly think if the Sox offer AJ arb, though, he takes it. How many teams are going to give up their 1st/2nd round draft pick for a 33-year-old catcher who plays spotty defense and is coming off one of the worst years of his career?

DirtySox
10-04-2010, 01:21 PM
I honestly think if the Sox offer AJ arb, though, he takes it. How many teams are going to give up their 1st/2nd round draft pick for a 33-year-old catcher who plays spotty defense and is coming off one of the worst years of his career?

A team with a protected 1st round pick is more likely to kick the tires. I think a team would be willing to lose a 2nd round pick for a 2 to 3 years worth of AJ. Obviously much comes down to the individual's preference of money versus job security. Does AJ think he can go out and perform much better with a 1 year contract to try and get a bigger/longer deal next off-season? He isn't a slam dunk decision like Putz/PK, so it will be interesting to follow.

EMachine10
10-04-2010, 03:05 PM
A team with a protected 1st round pick is more likely to kick the tires. I think a team would be willing to lose a 2nd round pick for a 2 to 3 years worth of AJ. Obviously much comes down to the individual's preference of money versus job security. Does AJ think he can go out and perform much better with a 1 year contract to try and get a bigger/longer deal next off-season? He isn't a slam dunk decision like Putz/PK, so it will be interesting to follow.
I agree with this; however, do you think AJ would be willing to risk playing for one of the pick-protected teams, rather than a contender? I get the sense that he'd be willing to come back here for a year and contend with the Twins rather than play for the Astros or somebody like that.

khan
10-05-2010, 10:40 AM
These are my thoughts as well. The Sox desperately need to improve the farm to better situate themselves for sustained success. The farm is bottom 3 in all baseball right now. The possibility of having 6 picks in the first 3 rounds (1, S, 2) is very nice in what looks like a deep draft class. The Sox need to take advantage and actually spend if this situation comes to fruition.

I can agree with this view.

But what degree of confidence do you have that the SOX won't screw the pooch on these additional picks, and go for signability rather than talent?

For my part, I have little confidence that the SOX would take FULL ADVANTAGE of any additional picks, based on their history.

DirtySox
10-05-2010, 10:48 AM
I can agree with this view.

But what degree of confidence do you have that the SOX won't screw the pooch on these additional picks, and go for signability rather than talent?

For my part, I have little confidence that the SOX would take FULL ADVANTAGE of any additional picks, based on their history.

I have little confidence that they eschew signability for strictly talent. Especially if they end up gaining many picks. More picks = more money spent. When your team habitually is in the bottom of draft spending it doesn't bode well for having many additional selections. They did however pick and sign Trayce Thompson with the OCab 2nd rounder. (Pheglegy was the Supp) I don't think Trayce cost a boatload, but that pick deviated from the norm as he is a prep player, quite toolsy, and has a very high ceiling. He might have been one of the few outliers though.

DirtySox
11-23-2010, 11:45 AM
The Red Sox will acquire the Tigers 1st round pick for losing Victor Martinez to Detroit. This was the first unprotected pick available and thereby the best pick available in compensation. Boston will also receive a supplemental pick.

CPditka
11-23-2010, 02:40 PM
I think you have to offer arb to AJ, PK, and Putz. One or more, may accept, but the reward is far greater than the risk.

PalehosePlanet
11-29-2010, 02:30 PM
The Red Sox will acquire the Tigers 1st round pick for losing Victor Martinez to Detroit. This was the first unprotected pick available and thereby the best pick available in compensation. Boston will also receive a supplemental pick.

Not if Detroit signs a higher rated type-A FA though, right?

DirtySox
11-29-2010, 02:32 PM
Not if Detroit signs a higher rated type-A FA though, right?

Correct, and the only two that would create that scenario is Crawford or Werth.

DonnieDarko
11-30-2010, 10:24 AM
Sox don't pick until 23rd? Wow.

DirtySox
12-02-2010, 04:01 PM
Goodbye 1st round pick, it was nice knowing you. Can't say I mind in this case though.

Nationals receive the 23rd pick in the draft for the White Sox signing Adam Dunn.

DirtySox
12-02-2010, 04:19 PM
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BenBadler (http://twitter.com/#%21/BenBadler) Ben Badler
White Sox are giving up the 23rd pick in the 2011 draft to sign Adam Dunn. A hit for an already thin farm system
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sox1970
12-02-2010, 04:22 PM
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BenBadler (http://twitter.com/#%21/BenBadler) Ben Badler
White Sox are giving up the 23rd pick in the 2011 draft to sign Adam Dunn. A hit for an already thin farm system
37 seconds ago (http://twitter.com/#%21/BenBadler/status/10457764451061760)

How will I sleep tonight? :tongue:

DirtySox
12-06-2010, 07:46 PM
The Sox gain a supplemental pick for the Diamondbacks signing JJ Putz. The supplemental round is between the 1st and 2nd round. I will update the draft order of said round once more signings occur.

DirtySox
01-05-2011, 09:44 PM
Draft order is updated. Still subject to change as there are still Type A's and B's on the market.

The White Sox first pick in the draft is at #45 in the supplemental round.

forrestg
01-10-2011, 04:20 PM
can the sox trade a minor leaguer, say viciedo to pittsburgh or other teams to move up to a first round pick?

DirtySox
01-10-2011, 04:25 PM
can the sox trade a minor leaguer, say viciedo to pittsburgh or other teams to move up to a first round pick?

Nope. Draft picks are unable to be traded.

DirtySox
01-20-2011, 11:46 AM
With the last Type A signing (Pavano) the 1st round draft order is set. The supplemental round is close to official, as Felipe Lopez is the last remaining Type B. The initial post is updated.

Worth noting that the Rays have a ridiculous 12 picks within the first 89 selections in what is widely considered an especially strong draft class. They will undoubtedly bolster what is considered the 2nd best farm system in baseball.

DirtySox
01-20-2011, 11:56 AM
The White Sox first pick in the draft is at #45 in the supplemental round.

With the remaining type B signings, the White Sox first pick is now #47 in the supplemental round. If the leaked Elias Rankings is indeed correct, this pick will be bumped to #48 once Lopez signs.

Supplemental round and beyond is also updated in the initial post.

DirtySox
02-15-2011, 09:15 PM
Final draft order is seemingly set. It's still unclear to me if Felipe Lopez garners a pick for Boston. He signed a minor league deal which many say nulls compensation. Others note that if Lopez makes the Rays opening day roster, Boston can petition MLB to receive said compensation pick.

Not that the draft threads of past are a hotbed of activity, but this thread will likely be exceptionally quiet this year. It is a really interesting draft class that is exceptionally strong, but I'd assume most people here are indifferent to other team's drafting. With no pick until the 47th selection, speculation is quite useless. We can only hope that the Sox reallocate funds that would have been spent on the 1st round pick on talent that falls to the supplemental round or further. I won't be surprised if the organization just cuts the draft budget even further though.

AzureJazzMan
02-16-2011, 10:09 AM
Not that the draft threads of past are a hotbed of activity, but this thread will likely be exceptionally quiet this year. It is a really interesting draft class that is exceptionally strong, but I'd assume most people here are indifferent to other team's drafting. With no pick until the 47th selection, speculation is quite useless. We can only hope that the Sox reallocate funds that would have been spent on the 1st round pick on talent that falls to the supplemental round or further. I won't be surprised if the organization just cuts the draft budget even further though.

This is really what I, and the rest of Sox Fandom are hoping for, though I fear that it will be a moot point, because they don't take risks or won't pay premiums anymore.

DirtySox
02-21-2011, 06:11 PM
jimcallisBA Jim Callis
Not bloody likely under Reinsdorf. @professorfog: With no 1st rder, chances #WhiteSox go overslot on later picks? #DepressingFarm #mlbdraft
4 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/#!/jimcallisBA/status/39838672018739200)

DirtySox
04-13-2011, 10:56 AM
BA has a midseason Draft Top 50 posted:

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/news/2011/2611568.html

Cole has indeed emerged as a legit contender for the number 1 pick over Rendon. Scouts have been raving about him. I still think the Pirates take Rendon barring injury though.

I hope the Sox go BPA with their 1st pick, but I'd imagine they draft pitching. The farm could use solid prospects at pretty much every position though. Some of the later round names I'm a fan of that could fall are Anthony Meo, Jason Esposito, Charlie Tilson (local boy), and Peter O'Brien.

DirtySox
05-09-2011, 11:23 AM
Sickels has his first mock draft up. The supplemental round portion will be posted later today. This year's draft is so deep that the Sox should be able to acquire legitimate talent with their first pick at number 47, especially if they open up their wallet. Many supplemental and 2nd round picks in this year's draft would be 1st rounders in year's past.

http://www.minorleagueball.com/2011/5/9/2159387/2011-baseball-mock-draft-first-round#storyjump

At this point in time it's between Cole and Rendon being the first overall pick. Most analysts are leaning Rendon currently. Hultzen has shot up draft boards this year as well. I'm a big fan of Starling and I hope he ends up in KC. Bauer is a really fun guy to watch, but his pitch counts have been enormous this year. Sonny to the Indians makes a bunch of sense. He would fit nicely in a rotation with Masterson, Pomeranz, & White. Tons of interesting names to sift through later in the round too.

SoxSpeed22
05-09-2011, 12:12 PM
If the Sox continue this ****fest, do the Nats still get our pick for Dunn, even if it's top 10?

cws05champ
05-09-2011, 12:40 PM
If the Sox continue this ****fest, do the Nats still get our pick for Dunn, even if it's top 10?
The Sox record this year will determine our draft position next year (2012), not this years draft in June. So the anwser is yes, the Nats still get our pick this year.

SoxSpeed22
05-09-2011, 12:52 PM
The Sox record this year will determine our draft position next year (2012), not this years draft in June. So the anwser is yes, the Nats still get our pick this year.Yeah, that's right, it's based off of the 2010 season. Whoops.

DirtySox
05-09-2011, 01:05 PM
Supplemental portion is up.

http://www.minorleagueball.com/2011/5/9/2159407/2011-baseball-mock-draft-supplemental-round

DirtySox
05-15-2011, 08:30 PM
JimBowdenESPNxm JIM BOWDEN
Top Bucs exec tells me there is no clear #1 pick in this Yrs draft and their draft board is subject to change but looks like arm w/1st pick
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JimBowdenESPNxm JIM BOWDEN
Scouts say this is one of the strongest and deepest pitching drafts in baseball history over 100 arms clocked over 95mph...many headed to TB
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JimBowdenESPNxm JIM BOWDEN
After Pirates take arm with First overall pick...Mariners expecting to take best bat which looks like Anthony Rendon 3B Rice if healthy
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Not sure I buy the Pirates going with Cole over Rendon, but not unfathomable. This is going to be a really fun draft class.

SoxSpeed22
05-15-2011, 10:15 PM
It will be interesting to see what JR Graham will do this season, focusing solely on pitching. But getting good value out of that supplemental pick is a must.

DirtySox
05-18-2011, 02:18 PM
MLB.com has a detailed top 50 draft prospects list up. Pretty helpful for those that would like to familiarize themselves with many of the names out there.

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/prospects/watch/y2011/#list=draft

Players from 30 - 50 that I like are Cron, Levi Michael, Susac, Chafin, Esposito, Tilson (local boy), and Beede.

I really don't expect Cron or Susac to be available though.

DirtySox
05-19-2011, 11:54 AM
Piliere has his 1st mock draft up. Interesting he thinks Rendon will slide that far. This only goes through the 1st round, so no Sox pick. Anything out of the top 10 - 15 is a huge crapshoot anyways.

http://milb.scout.com/2/1073309.html

GoSox4
05-19-2011, 11:42 PM
MLB.com has a detailed top 50 draft prospects list up. Pretty helpful for those that would like to familiarize themselves with many of the names out there.

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/prospects/watch/y2011/#list=draft

Players from 30 - 50 that I like are Cron, Levi Michael, Susac, Chafin, Esposito, Tilson (local boy), and Beede.

I really don't expect Cron or Susac to be available though.

I played against Tilson this year, and that kid is the best base runner I have ever seen. Still, the arms a little weak.

DirtySox
05-20-2011, 09:31 AM
Bundy Advises Pirates & Royals Not to Pick Him (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=Ak7itvG54LSl70KH6Ttfr9gRvLYF?slug=jp-passan_baseball_draft_bundy_bauer_long_toss_debate _051911)


Interesting read on Bundy, Bauer, and throwing programs.

DirtySox
05-25-2011, 11:54 AM
Baseball America's Draft Top 200 is up.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/draft-preview/2011/2611794.html

DirtySox
05-27-2011, 10:04 PM
Baseball America's 2nd mock draft is up.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/mock-draft/2011/2611827.html

Rendon back in the top spot. Surprised to see Starling at number 2. Tons of tools, but still really raw. You then have the top tier of pitching with Bundy, Hultzen, Cole, and Bauer. One could make a case for any of those pitchers at anywhere in the top 5 in varying combinations.

There will be plenty of talent available for the Sox at 47. Even though history (http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/draft/2010/08/bonus-expenditures-2008-10/) suggests they won't be spending much, there are still some fine options. Gonzo noted that the 1st pick will likely be a pitcher for what it's worth.

DirtySox
05-28-2011, 05:55 PM
conorglassey conorglassey
Heard that Dallas Jesuit OF Josh Bell sent a letter to the Scouting Bureau saying he doesn't want to sign & wants to go to Texas #mlbdraft
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jimcallisBA Jim Callis
Bad news: Texas A&M RHP John Stilson, likely 1st-rder, has a SLAP tear of labrum & faces surgery. #mlbdraft
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That's 2 almost certain first rounders that are going to fall significantly.

DirtySox
05-28-2011, 07:54 PM
BaseballAmerica Baseball America
RT @aaronfitt: Multiple scouts have told me #UCLA RHP Gerrit Cole threw at least a half-dozen pitches over 100 last night, peaking at 103.
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DirtySox
05-30-2011, 12:35 PM
Sickels has his 2nd Mock Draft up.

1st Round (http://www.minorleagueball.com/2011/5/30/2195070/2011-baseball-mock-draft-mark-ii)

Supplemental Round (http://www.minorleagueball.com/2011/5/30/2195280/2011-mock-draft-mark-ii-supplemental-round#storyjump)

Predicting the supplemental round is an absolute shot in the dark, but it's a useful read if one cares to get a feel for the talent that will be available at that point.

DirtySox
06-01-2011, 12:26 PM
Alan (Chicago): Have anything ChiSox draft related? Feed me. I hunger.


Jim Callis: They don't pick until No. 47, so there's not a lot of White Sox draft buzz. I could see them opting for a multitooled athlete who will sign for slot (which might be tough to find at No. 47) or a lefthanded pitcher. Maybe Chris Reed from Stanford?

http://www.baseballamerica.com/chat/?1306943924

DirtySox
06-01-2011, 02:55 PM
Piliere's 2nd Mock Draft:

http://milb.scout.com/2/1076134.html

Rendon falling to KC could be a steal. Many mixed opinions on him lately though. Whatever pitcher falls in their lap is fine too. Rumor has it they want a college arm that could quickly join a rotation alongside Duffy and Montgomery.

EMachine10
06-01-2011, 03:30 PM
One thing is for sure: It's going to be a fun draft, with not much being certain regarding the top several picks (at least as of yet).

DirtySox
06-01-2011, 03:40 PM
One thing is for sure: It's going to be a fun draft, with not much being certain regarding the top several picks (at least as of yet).

Pretty much. Cole, Rendon, Hultzen, Bundy, and Bauer are all legitimate possibilities at number 1 with the Pirates being linked to all of them at some point. It seems the first 3 listed are the most likely from current reports/speculation.

DirtySox
06-03-2011, 05:43 PM
keithlaw keithlaw
One rumor post-mock - White Sox potentially on Stanford LHP Chris Reed in sandwich round. (Scouting report: http://es.pn/mTeNeh)
2 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

Chris Reed (http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=14690127&topic_id=18682064&c_id=mlb)

DirtySox
06-03-2011, 06:20 PM
Callis has his latest mock draft posted.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/mock-draft/2011/2611880.html

Cole falling to KC would be scary.

khan
06-03-2011, 06:41 PM
Yeah, just find whatever nondescript easy signer out of college that's from Indiana/Kentucky/Ohio, and that'll be the SOX's first pick.

[Am I imagining things, or do the SOX seem to draft/sign a lot of players from Indiana lately? Is the scout for the SOX that covers this area favored in some way by KW?]

canOcorn
06-03-2011, 06:45 PM
Callis has his latest mock draft posted.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/mock-draft/2011/2611880.html

Cole falling to KC would be scary.

They want a college pitcher who can come up in the next two years with the rest of their new core. The Royals, with or without Cole are going to be scary in 2013-14.

And don't take that the wrong way: The thought of them getting Cole is very scary.

DirtySox
06-03-2011, 06:58 PM
They want a college pitcher who can come up in the next two years with the rest of their new core. The Royals, with or without Cole are going to be scary in 2013-14.

And don't take that the wrong way: The thought of them getting Cole is very scary.

Spot on about their intent. They need pitching in the immediate core. They have Duffy and will have Montgomery in the rotation in the near future, but Lamb is headed for TJ surgery. Odorizzi (Greinke trade) is dominating in High-A, but is far away. Adding in a Cole/Barnes/Gray/Bauer would bolster the rotation quickly.

Cleveland is looking to do the same thing. Masterson, White, & Pomeranz will likely be mainstays very soon. Grabbing whatever college arm falls to them in such a deep class will just add to a very impressive potential rotation.

And I mean scary in that Cole has the best stuff and highest ceiling of the top potential arms available. If he realizes that potential, lookout.

DirtySox
06-03-2011, 07:57 PM
Law thinks Reed is one of the biggest sleepers in the draft. An intriguing option no doubt.

DirtySox
06-03-2011, 09:53 PM
KG's current mock draft is up.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=14139

California Sox
06-03-2011, 11:10 PM
Yeah, just find whatever nondescript easy signer out of college that's from Indiana/Kentucky/Ohio, and that'll be the SOX's first pick.

[Am I imagining things, or do the SOX seem to draft/sign a lot of players from Indiana lately? Is the scout for the SOX that covers this area favored in some way by KW?]

Lip had a source who criticized Laumann for picking a lot of players associated with his home area of Cincinnati. Mitchell played Legion ball there, Phegley and all those Indiana State guys are a short drive away, etc. I have no idea if there is anything to it, though.

DirtySox
06-04-2011, 11:55 AM
FrankiePiliere Frankie Piliere
Sources telling me the Astros are trying to cut a pre-draft deal with Stanford lefty, Chris Reed at #11. #mlbdraft
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Helium.

DirtySox
06-04-2011, 02:17 PM
FrankiePiliere Frankie Piliere
So to complete the update, Houston is denying the Chris Reed report. Still keeping an eye on it but important to note they are denying it
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DirtySox
06-04-2011, 02:26 PM
jimcallisBA Jim Callis
Top five has changed, currently think Cole to Pit, Rendon to Sea, Bundy to Ari, Hultzen to Bal, Bauer to KC, then back to Fri mock #mlbdraft
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cws05champ
06-05-2011, 12:59 PM
Man this is such a deep draft....the fact that guys like Kolten Wong, Danniel Norris and CJ Kron could have fallen to the Sox at 25, makes Dunn struggling so much even more painful.

DirtySox
06-05-2011, 01:04 PM
Man this is such a deep draft....the fact that guys like Kolten Wong, Danniel Norris and CJ Kron could have fallen to the Sox at 25, makes Dunn struggling so much even more painful.

23rd pick.

But yes, ridiculous class. The silver lining is that there will be plenty of legitimate talent at 47 this year. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if whoever is drafted jumps to the top of the White Sox prospect list. With Dayan's rookie status exhausted and no one else doing much of anything in the system, the top prospect is a blindfolded shot in the dark right now.

Daver
06-05-2011, 01:38 PM
Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if whoever is drafted jumps to the top of the White Sox prospect list. With Dayan's rookie status exhausted and no one else doing much of anything in the system, the top prospect is a blindfolded shot in the dark right now.

Talk about winning the tallest midget contest...

DirtySox
06-05-2011, 01:54 PM
Talk about winning the tallest midget contest...

Absolutely.

There hasn't been one prospect that has definitively risen from the muck. There have been some intriguing performances from guys like Jose Martinez, Blanke, Petricka, Reed, as well as a whole bunch of fringe. Piecing together a top 20 prospect list at this point would be a depressing exercise. The Sox need depth at almost every position.

DirtySox
06-05-2011, 02:50 PM
ChuckCarltonDMN Chuck Carlton
TCU standout RHP Kyle Winkler twice grabs elbow in pain during the first inning, departs after just 12 pitches against Oral Roberts. Wow.
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Ouch. Poor kid. :(: This is horrible timing with the draft tomorrow.

DirtySox
06-06-2011, 04:51 PM
Late 1st round Cuban sleeper?

http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/draft/2011/06/sleeper-alert-onelki-garcia-speck/

And to make it even more weird, his agent is claiming he isn't draft eligible and a free agent, while the league is saying the opposite. Quite odd.

From the office of the Commissioner:

We understand that Gus Dominguez has contacted Clubs for the purpose of asserting that Onelki Garcia is not eligible for the 2011 First-Year Player Draft, which begins this evening. Consistent with the attached, which Joel Araujo sent to your attention on Saturday, June 4, please be advised that the Office of the Commissioner has determined that Garcia has established residency in the United States and is therefore subject to the 2011 First-Year Player Draft.

Based on the information we have received regarding Garcia’s residency status, it is our understanding that Garcia established residency and began working out in the United States in February 2011. We have repeatedly requested that Gus Dominguez provide us with documentary evidence supporting his claim that Garcia is a legal resident of a country other than the United States, but no such information has been provided to us. The Office of the Commissioner is, of course, unable to declare a player ineligible for the Rule 4 Draft based solely on the bare assertions of his representative that he is not a resident of the United States within the meaning of Major League Rule 4. As a result, the Office of the Commissioner has determined that Garcia is subject to the First-Year Player Draft.

DirtySox
06-06-2011, 06:03 PM
Streaming Live here (http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/events/draft/y2011/draftlive_app.jsp). Also on MLB Network.

DirtySox
06-06-2011, 06:04 PM
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Kevin_Goldstein (http://twitter.com/#%21/Kevin_Goldstein) Kevin Goldstein
MLB has ruled that the Cuban LHP is NOT NOT NOT eligible.
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DirtySox
06-06-2011, 06:07 PM
Cole goes number 1 overall, as expected.

DirtySox
06-06-2011, 06:13 PM
Wow! Hultzen to Seattle.

Will Arizona nab Rendon? Or are they still on Bauer?

DirtySox
06-06-2011, 06:16 PM
Pretty shocking that they didn't take Rendon. The Mariners system and the big league club desperately needs bats. A tandem of Rendon/Ackley/Smoak would have been really appealing.

DirtySox
06-06-2011, 06:18 PM
Every analyst's mock draft has just exploded.

DirtySox
06-06-2011, 06:19 PM
Bauer is a fantastic pick and might help this year in the Bigs.

DirtySox
06-06-2011, 06:21 PM
Do the Orioles stick with Bundy, or do they nab Rendon? KC will probably grab whoever is left.

DirtySox
06-06-2011, 06:22 PM
Mayo says O's not on Rendon. Probably Bundy.

Some see Rendon slipping to the Cubs at 9.