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salty99
08-31-2010, 01:53 PM
Pierre LF
Vizquel 2B
Rios CF
Konerko 1B
Quentin RF
AJ C
Kotsay DH
Ramirez SS
Teahen 3B

GregO23
08-31-2010, 01:55 PM
Hey thats not the new DH.

doublem23
08-31-2010, 01:57 PM
Hey thats not the new DH.

Shouldn't be a surprise yet, the Sox still haven't made a roster move to put Manny on the 25-man roster yet.

salty99
08-31-2010, 01:58 PM
He doesn't even land in Cleveland until 3PM.

hawkjt
08-31-2010, 01:58 PM
Does this mean the Sox do not have to take Torres or Harrell off the roster for tonite? Or is Manny activated? If so, then he should play,but if they want to preserve one of the only rested bullpen arms on the roster,makes some sense.

doublem23
08-31-2010, 02:02 PM
Does this mean the Sox do not have to take Torres or Harrell off the roster for tonite? Or is Manny activated? If so, then he should play,but if they want to preserve one of the only rested bullpen arms on the roster,makes some sense.

Well, they're going to have to add Manny to the 25-man roster by today if they want him to be eligible for the postseason roster, if I understand MLB roster rules correctly. The only loophole that I know of is they could move a DH or OF to the 60-day DL and then use Manny as the alternate.

oeo
08-31-2010, 02:02 PM
Does this mean the Sox do not have to take Torres or Harrell off the roster for tonite? Or is Manny activated? If so, then he should play,but if they want to preserve one of the only rested bullpen arms on the roster,makes some sense.

Manny would not be postseason eligible unless he's on the 25 man roster tonight.

Send Torres down. If he we need him at all, we're in trouble anyway. Mark Gonzalez mentioned this yesterday: Bristol's season is finished after tonight, all you have to do is demote Torres to Bristol for tonight then bring him back tomorrow when rosters expand.

salty99
08-31-2010, 02:02 PM
Does this mean the Sox do not have to take Torres or Harrell off the roster for tonite? Or is Manny activated? If so, then he should play,but if they want to preserve one of the only rested bullpen arms on the roster,makes some sense.

I'm guessing he'll be on the roster tonight.

Noneck
08-31-2010, 02:06 PM
Does this mean the Sox do not have to take Torres or Harrell off the roster for tonite? Or is Manny activated? If so, then he should play,but if they want to preserve one of the only rested bullpen arms on the roster,makes some sense.


I dont get it either. Dropping Torres or Harrell trumps not having a 4m a month savior in the lineup? Tomorrow they can bring up more arms. You pay a guy this kind of money for a month and you are worrying about a one day roster move, something stinks here.

tstrike2000
08-31-2010, 02:06 PM
Manny would not be postseason eligible unless he's on the 25 man roster tonight.

Can't see why that would even be in question or what would've been the whole point in acquiring him in the first place?

Crestani
08-31-2010, 02:07 PM
I'm guessing he'll be on the roster tonight.


If he isn't, you have got the scoop of the year..!! (And somebody's job)

salty99
08-31-2010, 02:08 PM
If he isn't, you have got the scoop of the year..!! (And somebody's job)

Just because he isn't starting doesn't mean he won't be on the team tonight.

thomas35forever
08-31-2010, 02:09 PM
I guess I can wait one more day.

oeo
08-31-2010, 02:09 PM
I dont get it either. Dropping Torres or Harrell trumps not having a 4m a month savior in the lineup? Tomorrow they can bring up more arms. You pay a guy this kind of money for a month and you are worrying about a one day roster move, something stinks here.

Who is worried? Sox have just not announced their move yet.

doublem23
08-31-2010, 02:13 PM
Who is worried? Sox have just not announced their move yet.

When is the exact deadline for players to be on the 25-man roster? I suppose maybe they'll make the move after the game, too? Though that's probably too risky to be true.

Noneck
08-31-2010, 02:14 PM
Who is worried? Sox have just not announced their move yet.

If the move was made he should be in the lineup.

Chez
08-31-2010, 02:15 PM
When is the exact deadline for players to be on the 25-man roster? I suppose maybe they'll make the move after the game, too? Though that's probably too risky to be true.

Probably one second before midnight (eastern time). I'm disappointed that Manny couldn't or wouldn't get to Cleveland in time for the game.

salty99
08-31-2010, 02:16 PM
Probably one second before midnight (eastern time). I'm disappointed that Manny couldn't or wouldn't get to Cleveland in time for the game.

He will be there for the game.

oeo
08-31-2010, 02:18 PM
If the move was made he should be in the lineup.

The move will be made, if not, this was all a waste. His ETA was about 20 minutes ago. This might not be the lineup by the time the first pitch is thrown. According to Cowley, Ozzie is going to see if Manny is up to playing tonight. And considering he's arriving just a few hours before the game starts, I wouldn't expect him to.

I don't see why he couldn't have left yesterday, then I would expect him to play tonight. Maybe he had to cut his hair.

Noneck
08-31-2010, 02:23 PM
The move will be made, if not, this was all a waste. His ETA was about 20 minutes ago. This might not be the lineup by the time the first pitch is thrown. According to Cowley, Ozzie is going to see if Manny is up to playing tonight. And considering he's arriving just a few hours before the game starts, I wouldn't expect him to.

I don't see why he couldn't have left yesterday, then I would expect him to play tonight. Maybe he had to cut his hair.

Thanks for all the info, Ill save my comments until after I see how this all plays out.

manders_01
08-31-2010, 02:24 PM
The says he is expected to be in uniform, may not start: Link (http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2010_08_31_chamlb_clemlb_1&mode=preview)

oeo
08-31-2010, 02:25 PM
When is the exact deadline for players to be on the 25-man roster? I suppose maybe they'll make the move after the game, too? Though that's probably too risky to be true.

My understanding is it's your 25-man roster for your game on August 31st. I don't think making a move after the game would work, technically that wouldn't be your roster until September 1st.

Harry Chappas
08-31-2010, 02:45 PM
At $4 million for roughly 40 games, each game he sits when he is available to play is like setting $100K on fire.

What do you supposed KW and/or Jerry will say when/if Guillen benches him in favor of Kotsay or Jones down the road?

dwitt76
08-31-2010, 02:48 PM
Where is Manny????? :angry: How long does it take for a guy to take a flight to Cleveland. Should have been here yesterday.

Foulke You
08-31-2010, 02:50 PM
At $4 million for roughly 40 games, each game he sits when he is available to play is like setting $100K on fire.

What do you supposed KW and/or Jerry will say when/if Guillen benches him in favor of Kotsay or Jones down the road?
I couldn't agree more! 31 games left! That's $129,000 per game. If he is in uniform, give him a bat and send him out there. The sand is running through the hour glass here. Are we resting him for the team he signs with next year?:mad:

pythons007
08-31-2010, 02:52 PM
Didn't they do something by moving Peavy to the 60 day DL? Does that make room form Manny on the 25?

Rdy2PlayBall
08-31-2010, 02:55 PM
This is starting to look like he wishes he was going to Tampa or somewhere else... I hope this isn't a sign that he wont be working for a contract in the offseason because he already knows that he will get payed my someone anyway. Kind of annoying, but hopefully he can pinch-hit for Teahen when the bases are loaded today... Or even better, start the game.

doublem23
08-31-2010, 02:55 PM
Didn't they do something by moving Peavy to the 60 day DL? Does that make room form Manny on the 25?

No that made it so Manny could be placed on the 40-man roster without having to release someone.

Foulke You
08-31-2010, 03:05 PM
This is starting to look like he wishes he was going to Tampa or somewhere else... I hope this isn't a sign that he wont be working for a contract in the offseason because he already knows that he will get payed my someone anyway. Kind of annoying, but hopefully he can pinch-hit for Teahen when the bases are loaded today... Or even better, start the game.
I think this is Ozzie. Yesterday, he made it sound like he didn't want to start him today no matter what. Also, I know this is a side issue from winning games but from a PR standpoint, having him make his Sox debut tomorrow at 11AM when nobody with a day job can see the game is not good.

DirtySox
08-31-2010, 03:06 PM
To be clear: The lineup could be changed. But #Manny (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23Manny) must talk his way IN. #WhiteSox (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23WhiteSox) 29 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/22643330114) via txt (http://twitter.com/devices) Retweeted by 1 person

Stoky44
08-31-2010, 03:08 PM
http://twitter.com/cst_sox/status/22645090377

BigHurt3515
08-31-2010, 03:08 PM
He just walked into the locker room. 3 hours before game time so who knows

ChiSoxGal85
08-31-2010, 03:08 PM
I just saw a clip on MLB network that showed Manny arriving at Progressive Field. Didn't say what time that was.

Noneck
08-31-2010, 03:08 PM
To be clear: The lineup could be changed. But #Manny (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23Manny) must talk his way IN. #WhiteSox (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23WhiteSox) 29 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/22643330114) via txt (http://twitter.com/devices) Retweeted by 1 person

As in?

Skip: "You ready"
M.Ramirez: "Yeah"

doublem23
08-31-2010, 03:09 PM
To be clear: The lineup could be changed. But #Manny (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23Manny) must talk his way IN. #WhiteSox (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23WhiteSox) 29 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/22643330114) via txt (http://twitter.com/devices) Retweeted by 1 person

Ozzie being Ozzie

soltrain21
08-31-2010, 03:09 PM
To be clear: The lineup could be changed. But #Manny (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23Manny) must talk his way IN. #WhiteSox (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23WhiteSox) 29 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/22643330114) via txt (http://twitter.com/devices) Retweeted by 1 person

He has to talk his way into the lineup to Ozzie? What in the ****. Seriously, Manny. Print Kotsay's statsheet.

Stoky44
08-31-2010, 03:11 PM
Sounds like he will NOT start. On a side note, what the **** is Cowley doing bringing up JD. What an *******.
http://twitter.com/cst_sox/status/22645364110

kittle42
08-31-2010, 03:11 PM
What you guys don't understand is that he would be replacing known superstar Mark Kotsay. Of *course* he has to talk his way in!

delben91
08-31-2010, 03:12 PM
Everything, everywhere, sucks!!!!!!!! :angry::angry::angry:

BigHurt3515
08-31-2010, 03:13 PM
Sounds like he will NOT start. On a side note, what the **** is Cowley doing bringing up JD. What an *******.
http://twitter.com/cst_sox/status/22645364110

Theres 3 hours before game time. Anything can happen. He can go take a 2 hour nap if he wants

Stoky44
08-31-2010, 03:14 PM
Theres 3 hours before game time. Anything can happen. He can go take a 2 hour nap if he wants

Then Cowley reports, Kenny screws up again, he obtains a player that sleeps in the clubhouse and does not support his team.

hi im skot
08-31-2010, 03:15 PM
So, I think we know where Cowley stands on the Ramirez acquisition...

ChiSoxGal85
08-31-2010, 03:16 PM
Sounds like he will NOT start. On a side note, what the **** is Cowley doing bringing up JD. What an *******.
http://twitter.com/cst_sox/status/22645364110

I just unfollowed Cowley this morning. I'm done with him; he used to be funny sometimes, but he's mostly being an ass now. And I really don't care about his college sports bantering with his fellow writers.

Rdy2PlayBall
08-31-2010, 03:19 PM
I think this is Ozzie. Yesterday, he made it sound like he didn't want to start him today no matter what. Also, I know this is a side issue from winning games but from a PR standpoint, having him make his Sox debut tomorrow at 11AM when nobody with a day job can see the game is not good.Him not being in the lineup today might be on Ozzie... but Manny not being there and ready is on Manny himself. I hope he makes the start, but if the Sox are going to make the playoffs, they shouldn't need him to help beat Clevland today.

Martinigirl
08-31-2010, 03:22 PM
So, I think we know where Cowley stands on the Ramirez acquisition...

I think we know where Cowley stands on anything Kenny does. I have never read a more negative person and he has an all out hatred for Kenny, which is why Cowley loves Oney.

Dibbs
08-31-2010, 03:22 PM
**** you Ozzie! "Talk" his way into the lineup my ass :angry:. Manny could hit better than Ozzie, or even Kotsay for that matter, if he just swung with his left arm. Get him in the game and ride him hard until the end of the year.

Oh, and fire Ozzie while we are at it!

Stoky44
08-31-2010, 03:24 PM
This whole talk of Ozzie needing Manny to talk his way into the lineup is so it takes the pressure off Manny to play today. I am sure he had an early morning with a long flight, and Ozzie does,'t want the media to attack Manny for not playing.

JermaineDye05
08-31-2010, 03:26 PM
I hope he's ready to pinch hit. We may need him. Hopefully Masterson continues to be bad and Jackson continues to dominate.

soltrain21
08-31-2010, 03:27 PM
This whole talk of Ozzie needing Manny to talk his way into the lineup is so it takes the pressure off Manny to play today. I am sure he had an early morning with a long flight, and Ozzie does,'t want the media to attack Manny for not playing.

Oh yeah, I forgot about Ozzie "The Beautiful Mind" Guillen has a reason for every single thing he has ever done in the history of his genius.

Chez
08-31-2010, 03:27 PM
FWIW, Manny would have had to caught a 6:00 am flight out of LAX to get to Cleveland by 3:30 eastern. According to Orbitz' website, there are no direct flights from LAX to Cleveland!

Soxman219
08-31-2010, 03:30 PM
Talk his way in my ***! Shut it ozzie!

pythons007
08-31-2010, 03:30 PM
FWIW, Manny would have had to caught a 6:00 am flight out of LAX to get to Cleveland by 3:30 eastern. According to Orbitz' website, there are no direct flights from LAX to Cleveland!

The White Sox charter is a direct flight!

Gavin
08-31-2010, 03:33 PM
FWIW, Manny would have had to caught a 6:00 am flight out of LAX to get to Cleveland by 3:30 eastern. According to Orbitz' website, there are no direct flights from LAX to Cleveland!

Orbitz? Really?

voodoochile
08-31-2010, 03:35 PM
Everything, everywhere, sucks!!!!!!!! :angry::angry::angry:
:rolling:

TheOldRoman
08-31-2010, 03:35 PM
**** you Ozzie! "Talk" his way into the lineup my ass :angry:. Manny could hit better than Ozzie, or even Kotsay for that matter, if he just swung with his left arm. Get him in the game and ride him hard until the end of the year.

Oh, and fire Ozzie while we are at it!Manny should have been in Cleveland last night. I don't know the circumstances surrounding him staying overnight, but maybe Ozzie is pissed about Manny taking his sweet ass time. Maybe Ozzie is keeping him out of the lineup today to show him that the crap he pulled elsewhere isn't going to fly here. That's all I got.

If Manny isn't in the lineup tomorrow, I will officially be angry.

delben91
08-31-2010, 03:37 PM
Orbitz? Really?

I'll bet Manny was on Orbitz last night trying to book his flight...

Noneck
08-31-2010, 03:37 PM
I just heard Cowley on wscr and Manny doesnt speak english anymore, didnt cut his hair and was up at 5am, so he is tired and only available for PHing duty today.

voodoochile
08-31-2010, 03:39 PM
I'll bet Manny was on Orbitz last night trying to book his flight...

Boycott Orbitz. Manny can't start it's their fault...:angry:

harwar
08-31-2010, 03:40 PM
I just heard Cowley on wscr and Manny doesnt speak english anymore, didnt cut his hair and was up at 5am, so he is tired and only available for PHing duty today.

Yea, when i saw that he had a 6 am flight i didn't expect him to be in the lineup .. not sure why everyone is so angry actually

delben91
08-31-2010, 03:40 PM
I just heard Cowley on wscr and Manny doesnt speak english anymore, didnt cut his hair and was up at 5am, so he is tired and only available for PHing duty today.

Wait.

What?

Noneck
08-31-2010, 03:41 PM
Wait.

What?

Yea he had a translator according to Cowley.

Craig Grebeck
08-31-2010, 03:44 PM
So much useless information. I don't care if he has eight translators, a segway, and batting gloves made from dolphins. He can hit.

Milw
08-31-2010, 03:44 PM
I'll bet Manny was on Orbitz last night trying to book his flight...
I know you're being facetious, and I don't really think this happened, but amazingly/sadly it doesn't seem far-fetched to me... That would definitely qualify as "Manny being Manny," whatever that means.

Noneck
08-31-2010, 03:45 PM
So much useless information. I don't care if he has eight translators, a segway, and batting gloves made from dolphins. He can hit.

But he has to stand at the plate 1st before we see that.

delben91
08-31-2010, 03:46 PM
So much useless information. I don't care if he has eight translators, a segway, and batting gloves made from dolphins. He can hit.

Please tell me someone can photoshop a shot of Manny up to bat on a segway and with dolphin batting gloves.

A million times please.

white sox bill
08-31-2010, 03:47 PM
Ya know after many 12 hr plus days being self-employed,and getting barely 5 hrs of sleep per PM at times, I can't say I feel sorry for Manny if he didn't get his little nappy nappy in. He'll still collect his $160K for each game.

How does he do it???

oeo
08-31-2010, 03:47 PM
Oh yeah, I forgot about Ozzie "The Beautiful Mind" Guillen has a reason for every single thing he has ever done in the history of his genius.

Don't you usually have a reason for doing things? :scratch:

mbwhitesox
08-31-2010, 03:47 PM
I'm sure it has something to do with the fact that we have a day game tomorrow. Ozzie probably doesn't want to use him in a day game after a night game so it kind of makes sense to bench him tonight since he's been on a plane all day and use him tomorrow in the day game. :dunno:

BadBobbyJenks
08-31-2010, 03:48 PM
I had my dreads all ready for the game too. :(:

soltrain21
08-31-2010, 03:48 PM
Don't you usually have a reason for doing things? :scratch:

Of course, but people act like every single thing Ozzie does is this brilliant calculated move. It's not.

dickallen15
08-31-2010, 03:48 PM
Yea, when i saw that he had a 6 am flight i didn't expect him to be in the lineup .. not sure why everyone is so angry actually
The White Sox and Manny routinely have late flights and have to be ready to play a ball game sometimes early the next afternoon. There are no excuses. The guy took his time reporting, which is his right, but people spinning poor Manny he's tired, that's a bunch of BS. I'm sure he was in first class. He could have napped on the plane.

beasly213
08-31-2010, 03:49 PM
Ya know after many 12 hr plus days being self-employed,and getting barely 5 hrs of sleep per PM at times, I can't say I feel sorry for Manny if he didn't get his little nappy nappy in. He'll still collect his $160K for each game.

How does he do it???


:rolleyes:

Craig Grebeck
08-31-2010, 03:49 PM
But he has to stand at the plate 1st before we see that.
He'll be there some time. Christ. We need him more for Boston than we do for Cleveland.

soltrain21
08-31-2010, 03:49 PM
Ya know after many 12 hr plus days being self-employed,and getting barely 5 hrs of sleep per PM at times, I can't say I feel sorry for Manny if he didn't get his little nappy nappy in. He'll still collect his $160K for each game.

How does he do it???

I'm sure he will cry on his pile of money tonight because you don't feel bad for him.

Chez
08-31-2010, 03:50 PM
Orbitz? Really?

I checked Orbitz's site to see whether there was a way for Manny to get to Cleveland earlier than 3:30. There wasn't -- unless he left last night. So rather than talking out of my ass, I thought it might be helpful to acutually have, you know, FACTS before I posted. And no, I didn't expect manny to be booking his flight on Orbitz! :smile: OAG's site confirms the same flight schedule as Orbitz.

doublem23
08-31-2010, 03:51 PM
Ya know after many 12 hr plus days being self-employed,and getting barely 5 hrs of sleep per PM at times, I can't say I feel sorry for Manny if he didn't get his little nappy nappy in. He'll still collect his $160K for each game.

How does he do it???

FWIW, his job is likely, a billion times harder than any of ours.

Noneck
08-31-2010, 03:51 PM
He'll be there some time. Christ. We need him more for Boston than we do for Cleveland.


You are right, its a long season, no rush.

Craig Grebeck
08-31-2010, 03:52 PM
FWIW, his job is likely, a billion times harder than any of ours.
And no slight to the OP, but I seriously doubt he is in the top .1% of the world at his job.

Craig Grebeck
08-31-2010, 03:53 PM
You are right, its a long season, no rush.
Oh, please. You had your pitchfork ready for anything.

MisterB
08-31-2010, 03:55 PM
The White Sox and Manny routinely have late flights and have to be ready to play a ball game sometimes early the next afternoon. There are no excuses. The guy took his time reporting, which is his right, but people spinning poor Manny he's tired, that's a bunch of BS. I'm sure he was in first class. He could have napped on the plane.

At exactly what time did the Sox-Dodgers trade talks end and this deal become a pure waiver claim?

Noneck
08-31-2010, 03:56 PM
Oh, please. You had your pitchfork ready for anything.

I really didnt, I cant stand the guy but I was really hoping against hope that he would do whatever it takes this time. I didnt say anything bad about him till today.

Chez
08-31-2010, 03:57 PM
FWIW, his job is likely, a billion times harder than any of ours.

I know we have a couple of police officers who post and at least one guy in the military stationed in harm's way. Maybe a fireman. Ask those guys if Manny's job is a billion times harder than their jobs. Unlikely.

Milw
08-31-2010, 03:57 PM
FWIW, his job is likely, a billion times harder than any of ours.
No doubt. On the other hand, his job is likely a billion times more fun than any of ours, so let's call it a wash...

Noneck
08-31-2010, 04:00 PM
No doubt. On the other hand, his job is likely a billion times more fun than any of ours, so let's call it a wash...

And the rewards are millions of times more than most here.

VeeckAsInWreck
08-31-2010, 04:01 PM
At exactly what time did the Sox-Dodgers trade talks end and this deal become a pure waiver claim?

Probably when Manny got tossed after seeing one pitch as a pinch hitter. At least I think that's the time when Kenny got the call from Ned Colletti that said "Aw screw it, you can have him for nothing".

RockJock07
08-31-2010, 04:03 PM
Yea, when i saw that he had a 6 am flight i didn't expect him to be in the lineup .. not sure why everyone is so angry actually

I don't get it either. Yes, he should play but the sox need to step up and beat a bad indians team on their own. Manny loves big time moments and this weekend he'll be primed to perform in front of RS nation.

Craig Grebeck
08-31-2010, 04:04 PM
I know we have a couple of police officers who post and at least one guy in the military stationed in harm's way. Maybe a fireman. Ask those guys if Manny's job is a billion times harder than their jobs. Unlikely.
And if they were the best of the best of the best, like Manny is, they'd have some special rules and perks. That's not to take away from the danger/honor of their jobs, I'm just saying that in all occupations, exceptions are made for the best. It's how the world works.

Craig Grebeck
08-31-2010, 04:05 PM
And the rewards are millions of times more than most here.
Again, if you were one of the best twenty or so people in the world at what you do, you would be paid handsomely.

Rdy2PlayBall
08-31-2010, 04:06 PM
Not sure if this news was already posted in some way...
http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/news/story?id=5516690

Second and third paragraphs explain that Manny is to have his hair... "trimmed". Maybe he has been spending some time with his hair before he has to say goodbye? :(:

Also, what is the Sox policy? Will this mean they (his dreads) become a little shorter... or almost gone?

Meixner007
08-31-2010, 04:07 PM
I know we have a couple of police officers who post and at least one guy in the military stationed in harm's way. Maybe a fireman. Ask those guys if Manny's job is a billion times harder than their jobs. Unlikely.

I think you're missing his point. You're right that police officers and military jobs are far more noble, but millions of people can do either of those jobs. Only a handful of people can be a pro baseball player, and like him or not, he reaps the financial rewards.

tstrike2000
08-31-2010, 04:09 PM
Him not being in the lineup today might be on Ozzie... but Manny not being there and ready is on Manny himself. I hope he makes the start, but if the Sox are going to make the playoffs, they shouldn't need him to help beat Clevland today.

Unfortunately, with this team lately anything has been possible.

Rdy2PlayBall
08-31-2010, 04:11 PM
I think you're missing his point. You're right that police officers and military jobs are far more noble, but millions of people can do either of those jobs. Only a handful of people can be a pro baseball player, and like him or not, he reaps the financial rewards.Having skill in a sport doesn't equal the difficulty of the job.... :scratch:

oeo
08-31-2010, 04:12 PM
Of course, but people act like every single thing Ozzie does is this brilliant calculated move. It's not.

Why would this seem brilliant? He's made a point that it's him that made the decision, not Manny.

Hitmen77
08-31-2010, 04:13 PM
He'll be there some time. Christ. We need him more for Boston than we do for Cleveland.

Yeah, but it won't matter when this weekend's games are washed away by Earl. :redneck

Noneck
08-31-2010, 04:13 PM
Again, if you were one of the best twenty or so people in the world at what you do, you would be paid handsomely.

I know but I would hope I would be appreciative of my compensation and do my utmost in earning that compensation. But I am really not that good at anything so I will never know how I would react.

Meixner007
08-31-2010, 04:17 PM
Having skill in a sport doesn't equal the difficulty of the job.... :scratch:

Um...yes it does?

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–adjective 1. not easily or readily done; requiring much labor, skill, or planning to be performed successfully

twsoxfan5
08-31-2010, 04:17 PM
This Manny deal if nothing else has provided me with reading pleasure for a few days now. This site is going to burn to the ground with all this Manny hysteria. Say what you want about him (and many of you have many, many, times) this guy is quite the polarizing figure.

dickallen15
08-31-2010, 04:18 PM
At exactly what time did the Sox-Dodgers trade talks end and this deal become a pure waiver claim?
Yesterday, early afternoon it became official. Manny knew about it the day before. I'm not complaining he left at 6 am today, I'm saying even if he did, he could have gone to bed early last night, rested on the plane, Continental has a non stop, and I'm sure he's in first class. But poor Manny, he's tired. If he's so tired, maybe instead of having him watch from the dugout and perhaps inserting him in the game late when he'd really be out of it, they should just send him to the hotel for some shut eye.

UofCSoxFan
08-31-2010, 04:19 PM
If it's true Manny isn't landing in Cleveland until 4 hours before the game, then I don't mind Ozzie's decision not to start him I do question why he wasn't there sooner however.

Rdy2PlayBall
08-31-2010, 04:19 PM
Um...yes it does?So if I was the greatest in the world at picking my nose, and got paid millions to do it... it would be a difficult job?

oeo
08-31-2010, 04:20 PM
This thread is hilarious. People are just grasping at things to complain about.

soltrain21
08-31-2010, 04:21 PM
If it's true Manny isn't landing in Cleveland until 4 hours before the game, then I don't mind Ozzie's decision not to start him I do question why he wasn't there sooner however.

He is legally allowed an allotted time to get there. He didn't break it.

Meixner007
08-31-2010, 04:22 PM
So if I was the greatest in the world at picking my nose, and got paid millions to do it... it would be a difficult job?

If you could somehow prove you have the best picking "technique" and market it to the masses to pay to watch you to do it, then yes that would be pretty difficult.

kittle42
08-31-2010, 04:23 PM
This thread is hilarious. People are just grasping at things to complain about.

And I'm complaining about those people! :D:

As soon as he hits a homer, people will shut the hell up.

Daver
08-31-2010, 04:24 PM
And I'm complaining about those people! :D:

As soon as he hits a homer, people will shut the hell up.

You taking bets on that?

delben91
08-31-2010, 04:25 PM
And I'm complaining about those people! :D:

As soon as he hits a homer, people will shut the hell up.

Heaven help us if he strikes out in his first AB. Or hits into a double-play.

DSpivack
08-31-2010, 04:26 PM
And I'm complaining about those people! :D:

As soon as he hits a homer, people will shut the hell up.

And I'm complaining about you complaining about those people. :angry:

ChiSoxGal85
08-31-2010, 04:27 PM
Not sure if this news was already posted in some way...
http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/news/story?id=5516690

Second and third paragraphs explain that Manny is to have his hair... "trimmed". Maybe he has been spending some time with his hair before he has to say goodbye? :(:



:rolling:

GoGoCrede
08-31-2010, 04:28 PM
This thread is hilarious. People are just grasping at things to complain about.

I just got up from a nap. Lineup thread is already 6 pages long?! Mercy.

Rdy2PlayBall
08-31-2010, 04:30 PM
If you could somehow prove you have the best picking "technique" and market it to the masses to pay to watch you to do it, then yes that would be pretty difficult.I didn't know Manny marketed how to play baseball?...

We're not talking about how rare it is to get a certain job, we're talking it's difficulty. It may be difficult to be a MLB player, or any other sports player... based on the skills your born with and the hard "work" you have to have growing up playing a game.

Let me ask you one question, would you rather...
1)work 2 jobs, 340+ days a year, risking your life in one of them, and breaking your back in another... or
2)play baseball?
Both pay the same.

Don't chose the wrong one. Plenty of people "choose" option #1 because that's all they can do, and they get payed nothing compared to Manny.

Hitmen77
08-31-2010, 04:31 PM
I just got up from a nap. Lineup thread is already 6 pages long?! Mercy.

Why did you need a nap? Did you take a red-eye in from LA today?

GoGoCrede
08-31-2010, 04:33 PM
Why did you need a nap? Did you take a red-eye in from LA today?

I was on a plane today, actually. :lol: There was no sign of a red carpet rolled out for Manny at the airport, so that's how I knew he wasn't gonna be in the lineup today.

Rdy2PlayBall
08-31-2010, 04:34 PM
I was on a plane today, actually. :lol: There was no sign of a red carpet rolled out for Manny at the airport, so that's how I knew he wasn't gonna be in the lineup today. Why the teal?

:tongue:

Meixner007
08-31-2010, 04:38 PM
I didn't know Manny marketed how to play baseball?...

We're not talking about how rare it is to get a certain job, we're talking it's difficulty. It may be difficult to be a MLB player, or any other sports player... based on the skills your born with and the hard "work" you have to have growing up playing a game.

Let me ask you one question, would you rather...
1)work 2 jobs, 340+ days a year, risking your life in one of them, and breaking your back in another... or
2)play baseball?
Both pay the same.

Don't chose the wrong one. Plenty of people choose option #1 because that's all they can do, and they get payed nothing compared to Manny.

Did you not even read the definition?

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–adjective 1. not easily or readily done; requiring much labor, skill, or planning to be performed successfully; hard: a difficult job.

Also, this isn't a debate on what job I would rather do, or what job is better at serving the greater good. This is a debate on which job is more difficult, and by the definition of difficult it's clearly being a baseball player.

delben91
08-31-2010, 04:40 PM
Holy crap. Can the game just start already?

Rdy2PlayBall
08-31-2010, 04:40 PM
Did you not even read the definition?

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–adjective 1. not easily or readily done; requiring much labor, skill, or planning to be performed successfully; hard: a difficult job.

Also, this isn't a debate on what job I would rather do, or what job is better at serving the greater good. This is a debate on which job is more difficult, and by the definition of difficult it's clearly being a baseball player.:rolleyes:

Meixner007
08-31-2010, 04:43 PM
Why the **** are you rolling your eyes? Let me guess, you're one of those people who don't let facts get in the way of your argument.

BigHurt3515
08-31-2010, 04:45 PM
Why the **** are you rolling your eyes? Let me guess, you're one of those people who don't let facts get in the way of your argument.

who cares, geez

Rdy2PlayBall
08-31-2010, 04:47 PM
Why the **** are you rolling your eyes? Let me guess, you're one of those people who don't let facts get in the way of your argument.http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/8171/691d.jpg

MisterB
08-31-2010, 04:48 PM
:rolleyes:

So smileys the man who's comparing being an elite athlete with picking your nose. :?:

Stoky44
08-31-2010, 04:48 PM
who cares, geez

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Craig Grebeck
08-31-2010, 04:48 PM
Popcorn.

BigHurt3515
08-31-2010, 04:52 PM
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I like it :happybday

ilsox7
08-31-2010, 04:53 PM
Did you not even read the definition?

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–adjective 1. not easily or readily done; requiring much labor, skill, or planning to be performed successfully; hard: a difficult job.

Also, this isn't a debate on what job I would rather do, or what job is better at serving the greater good. This is a debate on which job is more difficult, and by the definition of difficult it's clearly being a baseball player.

The poster obviously didn't. S/he had a point to make, facts be damned.

Meixner007
08-31-2010, 04:54 PM
Listen, I really don't care. Maybe I'm going off because I'm bored at work, but I've been reading since the beginning of this thread and the pure stupidity of some posters who are ready to write him off before he even sees a single pitch is mind boggling.

I'm not going to give a big kumbaya speech about how we're all sox fans and let's just agree to disagree, b/c I think that's stoooopid sentimental bull****.

I'm just trying to get back to a time when these boards were about honest and frank discussion backed up with facts and not solely on emotion.

Stoky44
08-31-2010, 04:54 PM
Popcorn.
:popcorn:I got mine ready. But can't we all just :chillpill: and then :hug:. Or do we all have to :duel:and :bitchslap: and:club: and :haddock:. Let's just all :whiteflag:and be done with the :angry:.

Is that too much to ask? :rolleyes:

Edit: I am just trying to make a joke and calm the mood. I am in no way trying to instigate or further the fighting. Let's just root for the sox for the next 30 days, who ever is on the team or playing, and hope we make the playoffs. Please do not ban me again and say I was trooling. I will delete the post if it is taken that way by anyone.

Rdy2PlayBall
08-31-2010, 04:56 PM
:popcorn:I got mine ready. But can't we all just :chillpill: and then :hug:. Or do we all have to :duel:and :bitchslap: and:club:. Let's just all :whiteflag:and be done with the :angry:.

Is that too much to ask? :rolleyes::rainbow: > :stooges:

I can't wait for the game to start...

GoGoCrede
08-31-2010, 04:58 PM
Listen, I really don't care. Maybe I'm going off because I'm bored at work, but I've been reading since the beginning of this thread and the pure stupidity of some posters who are ready to write him off before he even sees a single pitch is mind boggling.

I'm not going to give a big kumbaya speech about how we're all sox fans and let's just agree to disagree, b/c I think that's stoooopid sentimental bull****.

I'm just trying to get back to a time when these boards were about honest and frank discussion backed up with facts and not solely on emotion.

Great post, I agree. I haven't read the whole thread yet, but when I woke up and saw it had over 100 replies, I knew it was going to be a doozy.

I heartily dislike Manny, but I'm going to give him a chance (although I refuse to wear a Manny wig. :) )

I hope we win tonight.

ilsox7
08-31-2010, 04:58 PM
Listen, I really don't care. Maybe I'm going off because I'm bored at work, but I've been reading since the beginning of this thread and the pure stupidity of some posters who are ready to write him off before he even sees a single pitch is mind boggling.

I'm not going to give a big kumbaya speech about how we're all sox fans and let's just agree to disagree, b/c I think that's stoooopid sentimental bull****.

I'm just trying to get back to a time when these boards were about honest and frank discussion backed up with facts and not solely on emotion.

Cheers! You're not the only one here who is sick of idiotic posts in these threads. Sure, I can choose not to read the thread. But **** it, some days I want to open a thread, see an intelligent debate, maybe chime in, etc. Instead, we get stupid ass posts based on absolute bull****.

Uncontested
08-31-2010, 04:58 PM
Have they moved someone off the roster yet for him? ESPN is saying he wont be in line up still tonight.

Taliesinrk
08-31-2010, 04:59 PM
Did you not even read the definition?

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–adjective 1. not easily or readily done; requiring much labor, skill, or planning to be performed successfully; hard: a difficult job.

Also, this isn't a debate on what job I would rather do, or what job is better at serving the greater good. This is a debate on which job is more difficult, and by the definition of difficult it's clearly being a baseball player.

I'm way too behind on school work to read all these pages - and this entire discussion (mostly because I've been procrastinating all day by reading all of Lip's posts on White Sox history oddities - which I highly recommend to anyone that hasn't check the thread out yet), so I apologize if I've missed something here... But, I think the problem here is that the word "difficult" is multi-faceted (sp?). Like some words have multiple definitions, so does difficult. You're talking about difficult in regards to technique and "skill", whereas Rdy2Play is talking about difficult in regards to tediousness or "requiring much labor". Both parts are in your definition of difficult. It's just that they're difficult in different ways. Manny's job requires more specialization and training (making it more difficult) whereas the guy in Rdy2Play's scenario has a job that may lack the amount of skill, but could (in his hypothetical) require more sustained effort - which, in time, can be very difficult.

TheCommander
08-31-2010, 05:00 PM
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.tvsquad.com/media/2007/07/jerryspringer1.jpg

Taliesinrk
08-31-2010, 05:00 PM
Cheers! You're not the only one here who is sick of idiotic posts in these threads. Sure, I can choose not to read the thread. But **** it, some days I want to open a thread, see an intelligent debate, maybe chime in, etc. Instead, we get stupid ass posts based on absolute bull****.

hahaha. my apologies.

KMcMahon817
08-31-2010, 05:01 PM
Have they moved someone off the roster yet for him? ESPN is saying he wont be in line up still tonight.

Optioned Torres to AAA according the SOX site. He is no longer available in the playoffs, should the SOX make it. He can return when Charlotte's season ends.

JermaineDye05
08-31-2010, 05:01 PM
WSI being WSI

#1swisher
08-31-2010, 05:02 PM
Cowley posts a pic of Manny (http://plixi.com/p/42563632)

Foulke You
08-31-2010, 05:02 PM
:popcorn:I got mine ready. But can't we all just :chillpill: and then :hug:. Or do we all have to :duel:and :bitchslap: and:club: and :haddock:. Let's just all :whiteflag:and be done with the :angry:.

Is that too much to ask? :rolleyes:
Nicely done! :wink:

ghostface36
08-31-2010, 05:03 PM
some of you guys are extremely immature when it comes to this stuff with manny

GoGoCrede
08-31-2010, 05:04 PM
Cowley posts a pic of Manny (http://plixi.com/p/42563632)

I can't tell if that's a Sox shirt he's wearing or not.

Dick Allen
08-31-2010, 05:05 PM
Manny hasn't played much in the past week, has he? So I think he should be well rested, late flight or not. No big deal. Thanks to all of you for an entertaining thread.

ChiTownTrojan
08-31-2010, 05:06 PM
Optioned Torres to AAA according the SOX site. He is no longer available in the playoffs, should the SOX make it. He can return when Charlotte's season ends.

So he doesn't have to stay down a minimum number of days?

KMcMahon817
08-31-2010, 05:08 PM
So he doesn't have to stay down a minimum number of days?

He can return September 6th, if the Sox want him.

Chez
08-31-2010, 05:11 PM
Anyone heard whether Thornton will need a short rehab assignment or if he's good to go on Friday?

KMcMahon817
08-31-2010, 05:15 PM
Anyone heard whether Thornton will need a short rehab assignment or if he's good to go on Friday?

I read a quote from Coop that said he expects both Thornton and Putz to return without a rehab assignment.

ghostface36
08-31-2010, 05:15 PM
But poor Manny, he's tired. If he's so tired, maybe instead of having him watch from the dugout and perhaps inserting him in the game late when he'd really be out of it, they should just send him to the hotel for some shut eye.
dude how old are you? because you sound like a 15 year old girl

Mod edit: Knock off the personal attacks. The next one will result in a rip.

#1swisher
08-31-2010, 05:16 PM
So he doesn't have to stay down a minimum number of days?


Torres eligible to rejoin the Sox, Sept. 6th after Charlotte's season ends.

Anthony Castrovince/MLB



(http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100831&content_id=14139352&vkey=news_cws&fext=.jsp&c_id=cws&partnerId=rss_cws)

spawn
08-31-2010, 05:17 PM
This thread has been comedic gold.

Rdy2PlayBall
08-31-2010, 05:18 PM
I read a quote from Coop that said he expects both Thornton and Putz to return without a rehab assignment.I also heard (via the score), that KW believed Thornton could have been ready for this series, but putting him on the DL was just a precautionary move. At the time, the Sox bullpen situation didn't look as bad with Threets coming back. I would expect a more than ready Thornton when he returns.

#1swisher
08-31-2010, 05:23 PM
Anyone heard whether Thornton will need a short rehab assignment or if he's good to go on Friday?

Thornton (http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100830&content_id=14109598&notebook_id=14110210&vkey=notebook_cws&fext=.jsp&c_id=cws) is eligible to come off the DL on Thursday

Chez
08-31-2010, 05:25 PM
Thornton (http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100830&content_id=14109598&notebook_id=14110210&vkey=notebook_cws&fext=.jsp&c_id=cws) is eligible to come off the DL on Thursday

I know. But isn't Thursday an off day?

Ranger
08-31-2010, 05:26 PM
FWIW, his job is likely, a billion times harder than any of ours.

I know we have a couple of police officers who post and at least one guy in the military stationed in harm's way. Maybe a fireman. Ask those guys if Manny's job is a billion times harder than their jobs. Unlikely.

No doubt. On the other hand, his job is likely a billion times more fun than any of ours, so let's call it a wash...

And the rewards are millions of times more than most here.

I think you're missing his point. You're right that police officers and military jobs are far more noble, but millions of people can do either of those jobs. Only a handful of people can be a pro baseball player, and like him or not, he reaps the financial rewards.

To further this last thought, this guy has a job that if he isn't as well rested as possible he's going to be bad at his job and he's going to get beat. And if that happens, people will jump down his throat.

Daver
08-31-2010, 05:27 PM
some of you guys are extremely immature when it comes to this stuff with manny

This from the towering intellect that can't manage to use the shift key or punctuation.

ghostface36
08-31-2010, 05:33 PM
This from the towering intellect that can't manage to use the shift key or punctuation.
it's a message board man not a classroom
and as an admin why would you personally attack me over a difference of opinion?

Chez
08-31-2010, 05:35 PM
To further this last thought, this guy has a job that if he isn't as well rested as possible he's going to be bad at his job and he's going to get beat. And if that happens, people will jump down his throat.

Ranger, your statement applies to many jobs. Even yours. But let's move on.

Daver
08-31-2010, 05:37 PM
it's a message board man not a classroom
and as an admin why would you personally attack me over a difference of opinion?

What personal attack?

This is why it is never wise to debate an idiot, they will merely try to drag you down to their level and then pummel you with experience.

#1swisher
08-31-2010, 05:44 PM
I know. But isn't Thursday an off day?

8/31 - 6:05 start/ CSN
9/1 - 11:05pm start / CSN
9/2 off day

9/3 Boston 6:10 start/ WCIU

ghostface36
08-31-2010, 05:45 PM
What personal attack?

This is why it is never wise to debate an idiot, they will merely try to drag you down to their level and then pummel you with experience.
what have i posted that makes me an idiot? Anyway I have no desire to argue with you or anyone on this board I just come here to talk white sox baseball

goon
08-31-2010, 05:47 PM
His fat ass should be in the lineup.

There is one month left in the season and this team is down 4 games. Ramirez needs to be in EVERY game, I don't ****ing care who the Sox are playing.

ghostface36
08-31-2010, 05:47 PM
8/31 - 6:05 start/ CSN

nice thanks for this i didnt think we started until 7 today

Craig Grebeck
08-31-2010, 05:48 PM
Ranger, your statement applies to many jobs. Even yours. But let's move on.
I don't know what you do for a living, but I'd imagine the public eye does not at all have any effect on your livelihood.