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Viva Medias B's
08-30-2010, 02:03 PM
I don't think this was posted yet so...

Hurricane Earl, now a Cat 3, could potentially impact our weekend series in Boston. Earl's cone of uncertainty (http://weather.com) takes it into New England Friday into Saturday. If conditions warrant, could that series be relocated?

kjhanson
08-30-2010, 02:09 PM
I hear Chicago is nice this time of year. I say we move it there.

DumpJerry
08-30-2010, 02:14 PM
Since, according their fanbase, the Red Sox are God's team, I say they have to forfeit since they caused the games to not be held.

doublem23
08-30-2010, 02:14 PM
0% chance a series gets moved from Boston.

downstairs
08-30-2010, 02:17 PM
BTW, for those that care to track this stuff, this is a much better site:
http://www.stormpulse.com

The "cone of error" 5 days out is a total crapshoot. Anything can happen, don't believe anything but 2-3 day predictions.

Fenway
08-30-2010, 02:18 PM
Hurricane Earl could come within 88 miles of the Cape Friday http://tiny.cc/jr4bp

Harvey Leonard at WCVB who is our Tom Skilling is VERY worried because a second weather pattern currently in Montana could make this into a 'perfect storm'.

New England is WAY overdue for a direct hit as we had Andrew-Hugo like storms in 1938 and 1954.

Manny and Earl on same weekend eek

Fenway
08-30-2010, 02:43 PM
ACK

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs300.snc4/41333_1542904005247_1014362077_31554200_4901314_n. jpg

downstairs
08-30-2010, 02:48 PM
No way this affects the Sox series. Unless it's some bizarre direct hit that devistates Boston (it won't)... hurricanes are just going to bring a quick bunch of rain. And usually its pretty nice and dry afterwards.

Fenway
08-30-2010, 02:56 PM
Since, according their fanbase, the Red Sox are God's team, I say they have to forfeit since they caused the games to not be held.

They could flip flop as Boston still has to go to Chicago

Actually

RONNIE WOO WOO : God is it true we are the chosen fans?

GOD: Yes

WOO WOO: Could you choose somebody else?

doublem23
08-30-2010, 03:05 PM
They could flip flop as Boston still has to go to Chicago

Except right now there's 4 in Chicago and 3 in Boston.

Viva Medias B's
08-30-2010, 07:54 PM
Watching The Weather Channel, I see that Bryan Norcross is now their hurricane specialist. He is best known for his role on WTVJ in South Florida during Hurricane Andrew.

Here is his latest available Tropical Update (http://www.weather.com/outlook/videos/tropical-update-6584#6584), and he says that if Earl takes the leftward track, it would produce things not seen on the East Coast in decades.

ewokpelts
08-30-2010, 08:46 PM
hurricane manny AND earl?

oh my

Viva Medias B's
08-30-2010, 08:50 PM
hurricane manny AND earl?

oh my

[in Geico spokesman voice]Manny will be Manny, but will Earl be Earl?[/in Geico spokesman voice]

Fenway
08-30-2010, 09:14 PM
Boston's WCVB is the station we trust for weather....

http://www.thebostonchannel.com/wxmap/24770041/detail.html

Last major hurricane in So New England was 1994...all we can do is watch and hope it blows east

DSpivack
08-30-2010, 09:16 PM
Boston's WCVB is the station we trust for weather....

http://www.thebostonchannel.com/wxmap/24770041/detail.html

Last major hurricane in So New England was 1994...all we can do is watch and hope it blows east

Those maps are all collected from the National Hurricane Center/NOAA, right?

Fenway
08-30-2010, 09:58 PM
Those maps are all collected from the National Hurricane Center/NOAA, right?

Yes...but WCVB's Harvey Leonard is top notch ... It will be a link to watch.

Leonard is watching this cold front out in the midwest and is worried that may pull Earl just a little more west (which means us)

Another problem is these tropical storms sometimes get 'stuck' as they hit cooler waters north of Cape Cod. - we have seen storms also make a complete u-turn off the coast of Maine.

Very HOT here right now but not humid...

Viva Medias B's
08-30-2010, 10:08 PM
Keep in mind that the cone of uncertainty is specific to the eye of the hurricane. This means that even if New England does not take a direct landfall, the outer bands of the storm could certainly affect the area.

OmahaSoxFan
08-30-2010, 10:08 PM
Yes...but WCVB's Harvey Leonard is top notch ... It will be a link to watch.

Leonard is watching this cold front out in the midwest and is worried that may pull Earl just a little more west (which means us)

Another problem is these tropical storms sometimes get 'stuck' as they hit cooler waters north of Cape Cod. - we have seen storms also make a complete u-turn off the coast of Maine.

Very HOT here right now but not humid...

The Weather Channel just re-ran a special called "It Could Happen Tomorrow" early last week that was showing a storm taking that "left track" and how it could devastate the Eastern Seaboard, and completely flood New York City and could cause a catastrophe that would rival Hurricane Katrina. I know there is a lot of uncertainty with this hurricane, but the Eastern Seaboard like it was mentioned earlier in this thread is WAY overdue for a nasty storm to run up the coast. The last "discussion" from the National Hurricane Center said the latest models are showing a farther and farther westerly track with this storm, which is not good.

If the storm races up the coast as most storms do, a low to middle range Category 3 storm could cause a major disaster to the big cities along the northeast coast.

Either way, I would expect this system to affect at least a game or two, if not the whole series if the storm is strong enough to cause damage in Boston.

Lip Man 1
08-30-2010, 10:29 PM
Me thinks that if something happens they postpone the games and see if they need to be made up at the end of the year, which right now doesn't look like it would be since neither team looks like they are postseason bound.

Lip

Viva Medias B's
08-30-2010, 11:03 PM
Latest advisory (http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/graphics_at2.shtml?5-daynl?large#contents) from the National Hurricane Center. The cone now covers the Jersey Shore (Will it be strong enough to mess up Pauly D's hair?), New York City, all of Long Island, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, and Maine. Earl would impact this area as a Cat 2, but it could be quite messy.

LoveYourSuit
08-30-2010, 11:21 PM
Flying out of Warwick back home on Thursday, you guys think I will be fine or should I ask the airline to push me back for Sunday and not give up my hotel room?

OmahaSoxFan
08-30-2010, 11:29 PM
Latest advisory (http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/graphics_at2.shtml?5-daynl?large#contents) from the National Hurricane Center. The cone now covers the Jersey Shore (Will it be strong enough to mess up Pauly D's hair?), New York City, all of Long Island, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, and Maine. Earl would impact this area as a Cat 2, but it could be quite messy.

All the latest computer models are showing the cold front hanging up in the Midwest this weekend, allowing Hurricane Earl to move more to the left (or west). Not a good sign showing up for the East Coast. The storm appears like it will start to accelerate Wednesday evening as it approaches the Outer Banks of NC, so hopefully the NHC can get a good handle on this thing and get warnings out quickly... if they are needed!

OmahaSoxFan
08-30-2010, 11:31 PM
Flying out of Warwick back home on Thursday, you guys think I will be fine or should I ask the airline to push me back for Sunday and not give up my hotel room?

Tough call, the way it looks like right now, Warwick would at least get some tropical storm force winds as it gets brushed by the northwest part of the storm. But if the storm moves further west as some models are suggesting, Connecticut and Rhode Island could be closer to the center of the storm. I am sure a lot more will be known after the AM runs tomorrow morning... just watch the latest advisories from the NHC, best way to get info in a situation like this.

Fenway
08-31-2010, 12:04 AM
The Weather Channel just re-ran a special called "It Could Happen Tomorrow" early last week that was showing a storm taking that "left track" and how it could devastate the Eastern Seaboard, and completely flood New York City and could cause a catastrophe that would rival Hurricane Katrina. I know there is a lot of uncertainty with this hurricane, but the Eastern Seaboard like it was mentioned earlier in this thread is WAY overdue for a nasty storm to run up the coast. The last "discussion" from the National Hurricane Center said the latest models are showing a farther and farther westerly track with this storm, which is not good.

If the storm races up the coast as most storms do, a low to middle range Category 3 storm could cause a major disaster to the big cities along the northeast coast.

Either way, I would expect this system to affect at least a game or two, if not the whole series if the storm is strong enough to cause damage in Boston.

Long Island sooner or later is going to get nailed - and there are not that many ways to drive off it

1938 was brutal

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_England_Hurricane_of_1938?wasRedirected=true

1954 hit Boston hard - destroyed the steeple of the Old North Church of Paul Revere fame and knocked down channel 4's 1000 foot tower.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Carol?wasRedirected=true

This is just lousy on the last big weekend for Cape Cod.

Right now this is being watched from the Carolina's to Newfoundland. Somewhere wll get nailed.

Noneck
08-31-2010, 12:38 AM
Me thinks that if something happens they postpone the games and see if they need to be made up at the end of the year, which right now doesn't look like it would be since neither team looks like they are postseason bound.

Lip

Lip,

Having the possibility even if not probable would be a major logistical problem for the MLB. Think about it, either the Sox or blowsox down 3 games at season end, the team behind 3 sweeps and then has to play game 163.

I say even if the series is washed out, they have to figure a way to make up at least 1 game before the season ends.

chisoxfanatic
08-31-2010, 12:52 AM
If they relocated an entire series for the Jays because of the G8 Summit, they can relocate the entire Sox/Carmines series to Comiskey with the Red Sox hitting in the bottom of each inning, if the weather looks bad by Thursday.

PeteWard
08-31-2010, 01:21 AM
And Tropical Storm Billy Bob is right on Earl's heels!

Viva Medias B's
08-31-2010, 01:55 PM
Officials have said (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/weather/sns-ap-tropical-weather,0,6836852.story) that people living along the East Coast, from Cape Hatteras to Cape Cod, might be asked to evacuate if Hurricane Earl comes closer. It seems that the forecast track has been nudging ever-so-slightly to the west.

peelwonder
08-31-2010, 02:02 PM
I live only 4 miles from the Gulf as the crow flies so I know all too well about Hurricanes....

Here's a sight that I like to use with computer models...etc....

http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/

na_na_na_na
08-31-2010, 02:13 PM
It's now a Category 4 and tracking west again. http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/business/consuminginterests/blog/2010/08/baltimore_cruise_ships_change.html

hawkjt
08-31-2010, 02:56 PM
I hope this monster turns east and misses the entire east coast,but there seems to be a good chance this storm will disrupt the Sox series,at least on Friday....just what the Sox need, a doubleheader? Yikes.

Also worried about Bucholz being pushed back to Friday...he is their best pitcher. Beckett and Lackey, I can live with,but no doubt that the Red Sox pitching could pose real problems...maybe I would prefer playing this series after the regular season when the Red Sox are dead...or do we just root for the O's to put them out of their misery this week?

Fenway
08-31-2010, 03:06 PM
I hope this monster turns east and misses the entire east coast,but there seems to be a good chance this storm will disrupt the Sox series,at least on Friday....just what the Sox need, a doubleheader? Yikes.

Also worried about Bucholz being pushed back to Friday...he is their best pitcher. Beckett and Lackey, I can live with,but no doubt that the Red Sox pitching could pose real problems...maybe I would prefer playing this series after the regular season when the Red Sox are dead...or do we just root for the O's to put them out of their misery this week?

Friday don't look good

http://www1.whdh.com/weather/tracking-hurricane-earl

ramblermgr9599
08-31-2010, 03:33 PM
are all the Sox fans that planned on going to Boston still going? Could the series be moved? Maybe to Houston? (neutral for both teams).

Noneck
08-31-2010, 03:40 PM
This whole situation is screaming, games to played after season if necessary.

Jollyroger2
08-31-2010, 03:42 PM
are all the Sox fans that planned on going to Boston still going? Could the series be moved? Maybe to Houston? (neutral for both teams).

I think that's a bit extreme. No matter what happens, every computer model has this thing hitting Nova Scotia by Saturday a.m. It's going to go from off Va Beach to Nova Scotia in 24 hrs, that's pretty fast if accurate. Friday night's game might get rained out but that's probably all.

Viva Medias B's
08-31-2010, 09:21 PM
A Hurricane Watch (http://www.weather.com/outlook/weather-news/news/articles/watches-warnins_2010-08-30) has been posted for the North Carolina coastline. Meanwhile, on this TWC Threat Level map (http://www.weather.com/outlook/weather-news/news/articles/tropical-depression-seven-storm-hurricane-earl_2010-08-23), the NC Outer Banks along with Cape Cod and the Islands are in the high threat level.

sodfatherjunior
08-31-2010, 10:11 PM
...........Brewers are out of town this weekend.........

cws05champ
08-31-2010, 10:20 PM
Lip,

Having the possibility even if not probable would be a major logistical problem for the MLB. Think about it, either the Sox or blowsox down 3 games at season end, the team behind 3 sweeps and then has to play game 163.

I say even if the series is washed out, they have to figure a way to make up at least 1 game before the season ends.

I think at worst case they will have one clear day, probably Sunday to play a DH. They may even be able to get Fridays game in....especially if they moved up the start time. They may have some feeder bands come through once in awhile, but it may not be that bad Friday. It looks like Saturday will be a washout.

Noneck
08-31-2010, 11:04 PM
I think at worst case they will have one clear day, probably Sunday to play a DH.

The Sox have a day game on Monday in detroit. A day-night DH would be brutal for the Sox.( I dont think a team can play a night game away and then a day game in another away city according to union rules but maybe I am wrong) I can never see the blowsox going for a true DH on Sunday with a noon start.

Brian26
08-31-2010, 11:14 PM
Harrelson is already warming up for this weekend.

Viva Medias B's
09-01-2010, 09:38 AM
The cone of uncertainty, per the latest advisory (http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/graphics_at2.shtml?5-daynl?large#contents), is actually drifting eastward. Unlike a couple of days ago, the cone only touches the eastern half of Long Island, eastern Connecticut, Rhode Island, eastern Massachusetts, and coastal Maine.

ewokpelts
09-01-2010, 09:50 AM
Harrelson is already warming up for this weekend.heavy yaz references expected.

Viva Medias B's
09-01-2010, 10:05 AM
In spite of my comment about the cone moving eastward, Earl could still slam Boston and Eastern Massachusetts with tropical storm force winds when it passes by. Hurricane force winds could impact Martha's Vineyard and Cape Cod. Also, MSNBC's Bill Karins pointed out that it could easily still jog to the west.

GeauxSox
09-01-2010, 04:01 PM
[QUOTE=doublem23;2607636]0% chance a series gets moved from Boston.[/QUOTE

If that beast runs through Fenway, they won't play any games there for weeks. It's not expected to, but you never know with these things.

chisox12
09-01-2010, 04:19 PM
This sucks. I'm supposed to fly out to Boston Friday afternoon and go to the game on Sunday. I hope this ******* Early doesn't mess up my plans here. I'm sure they'll be playing on Sunday, but who knows when I'll be able to fly in...

Ex-Chicagoan
09-01-2010, 05:15 PM
Harrelson is already warming up for this weekend.

I assume Joe West is in charge of hurricanes, too?

OmahaSoxFan
09-01-2010, 05:57 PM
Earl now back to Cat 4 storm as it approaches the North Carolina coast. What is amazing is on the forecast track, by Saturday afternoon this storm will be up in Canada. The game on Friday is definitely in jeopardy (which isn't a terrible thing giving the fact that the pen needs some rest), and Saturday could be iffy up to a point (if the high winds get into the Boston Metro Area, which is still possible to some extent). But I think the chances of a game getting in later on Saturday, and a doubleheader on Sunday are looking good.

At least the worst of the storm will definitely be off to the east and south of Boston, it will be a close call though, and still appears the storm could be mid to high end range Cat 2 storm at that point. This is going to get interesting, both storm-wise and baseball-wise this weekend in the Northeast.

ChiSoxGirl
09-01-2010, 10:08 PM
Earl now back to Cat 4 storm as it approaches the North Carolina coast. What is amazing is on the forecast track, by Saturday afternoon this storm will be up in Canada. The game on Friday is definitely in jeopardy (which isn't a terrible thing giving the fact that the pen needs some rest), and Saturday could be iffy up to a point (if the high winds get into the Boston Metro Area, which is still possible to some extent). But I think the chances of a game getting in later on Saturday, and a doubleheader on Sunday are looking good.

At least the worst of the storm will definitely be off to the east and south of Boston, it will be a close call though, and still appears the storm could be mid to high end range Cat 2 storm at that point. This is going to get interesting, both storm-wise and baseball-wise this weekend in the Northeast.

The last thing we need is another damn doubleheader, and I'm sure everyone here would agree with that sentiment. Two since the break isn't enough?!

Soxman219
09-01-2010, 11:14 PM
The last thing we need is another damn doubleheader, and I'm sure everyone here would agree with that sentiment. Two since the break isn't enough?!

Agreed! We aren't getting any breaks to catch the Twins!

LoveYourSuit
09-01-2010, 11:21 PM
Agreed! We aren't getting any breaks to catch the Twins!


Who's to blame for that?


Us. We were in 1st place and pissed it away.

I'm not looking for any breaks or any favors at this point. We want to win it, we have to earn it. 20 of 30 run is almost a must now.

voodoochile
09-01-2010, 11:24 PM
Not disappointed to be living in San Jose this year. That thing has a chance to nail my old area.

jdm2662
09-02-2010, 09:29 AM
According to the weather guy on GMA, the hurricane is predicted to be a cat 2 by the time it hits Cape Cod. It is expected to reach there at 2AM EDT. It will be an interesting weekend.

Viva Medias B's
09-02-2010, 09:41 AM
Hurricane Earl is now a strong Cat 4 and poised to strike the NC Outer Bands. Hurricane and Tropical Storm watches and warnings are posted throughout the east coast north of the NC-SC border. Cape Cod is under a Hurricane Watch. It seems that Earl is taking a track similar to Hurricane Bob (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Bob) from 1991. Below is The Weather Channel coverage of Hurricane Bob that includes the late John Hope, then TWC's hurricane specialist, and current Storm Stories host Jim Cantore.

Pg0Lk4cc2X8&feature=related

Fenway
09-02-2010, 09:43 AM
According to the weather guy on GMA, the hurricane is predicted to be a cat 2 by the time it hits Cape Cod. It is expected to reach there at 2AM EDT. It will be an interesting weekend.

Boston at the least will get a lot of rain...I think we looking at a DH at some point which could be a TV nightmare

Harvey at Channel 5 now thinks Boston's south shore may get nailed as well....

http://bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/20100902meteorologists_keeping_an_eye_on_hurricane/srvc=home&position=0

#1swisher
09-02-2010, 09:48 AM
Where is the team (White Sox) now?

Viva Medias B's
09-02-2010, 10:06 AM
Where is the team (White Sox) now?

I did not see the game yesterday (work); did anyone who did hear Hawk say anything like "the Sox will board their charter..."?

Also, keep in mind that with the exception of the eyewall itself, the most intense part of a hurricane is west of the eye.

Fenway
09-02-2010, 10:11 AM
As this Boston weatherman says - one thing history has taught us, these things can surprise when they get around New England.

http://www.thebostonchannel.com/video/24845793/index.html

Example - more than once a storm has just stopped and stays around hours more than expected.

Hitmen77
09-02-2010, 10:17 AM
Hurricane Earl is now a strong Cat 4 and poised to strike the NC Outer Bands. Hurricane and Tropical Storm watches and warnings are posted throughout the east coast north of the NC-SC border. Cape Cod is under a Hurricane Watch. It seems that Earl is taking a track similar to Hurricane Bob (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Bob) from 1991. Below is The Weather Channel coverage of Hurricane Bob that includes the late John Hope, then TWC's hurricane specialist, and current Storm Stories host Jim Cantore.

Pg0Lk4cc2X8&feature=related

Look at that young Jim Cantore with hair! Actually, considering that was almost 20 years ago, he's aged very well. Aside from the hair, he looks pretty much the same.

sox1970
09-02-2010, 11:11 AM
Where is the team (White Sox) now?

They flew to Boston after the game yesterday.

nug0hs
09-02-2010, 04:33 PM
cnnbrk (http://twitter.com/cnnbrk)
Mass. Gov Patrick, declared a state of emergency for Massachusetts over #hurricane (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23hurricane) #Earl (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23Earl) http://on.cnn.com/csf4Gq

Fenway
09-02-2010, 04:56 PM
cnnbrk (http://twitter.com/cnnbrk)
Mass. Gov Patrick, declared a state of emergency for Massachusetts over #hurricane (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23hurricane) #Earl (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23Earl) http://on.cnn.com/csf4Gq

This is getting worse for Boston by the hour -

Looks like tomorrow will be called no matter what as the Mayor doesn't want the extra traffic.

Soxman219
09-02-2010, 06:02 PM
Is there anyway this series can be moved to another MLB stadium?

DickAllen72
09-02-2010, 06:10 PM
If the Red Sox had any kind of class at all, they would simply forfeit the three games to the White Sox and save everybody a lot of trouble. :redneck

Hitmen77
09-02-2010, 06:16 PM
Is there anyway this series can be moved to another MLB stadium?

I hope so.

That's all we need for our faint hopes of catching the Twins: more Doubleheaders stacked up so that pitching rotation can't cover the games and our bullpen has to be stretched thin yet again.

I think it will depend if they think they can get Saturday's game in. If yes, then they'll just take the rainout and have a DH. But if both Fri and Sat games are in jeopardy, I hope they are looking at alternate locations.

cards press box
09-02-2010, 06:31 PM
Precedent exists for this situation. When Hurricane Ike approached Houston in September 2008, MLB moved a weekend series between the Cubs and Astros to Miller Park and gave the Astros last bats.

Once again, Miller Park is empty this weekend and is available if MLB wants the games played at a "neutral" site. Of course, when the G-8 summit was in Toronto in June 2010, MLB moved a three game series between Philadelphia and Toronto from Skydome to Philadelphia and, once again, gave the re-located home team (Toronto) last bats.

So, it seems that MLB has some precedent and some options if Hurricane Earl threatens to cause rainouts both Friday and Saturday. The games could be moved to either Miller Park or U.S. Cellular without any problem at all. If Boston Mayor Thomas Menino is concerned about crowds and doesn't want extra traffic (and if the games can't be played on Saturday, either), then MLB should act soon and send the series to Milwaukee or Chicago.

LoveYourSuit
09-02-2010, 06:36 PM
Storm downgraded to Cat 3, I think only Friday's game is an issue.

doublem23
09-02-2010, 06:40 PM
Precedent exists for this situation. When Hurricane Ike approached Houston in September 2008, MLB moved a weekend series between the Cubs and Astros to Miller Park and gave the Astros last bats.

It's not really the same thing since Houston took a direct hit from Ivan, so Minute Maid Field wasn't in shape to host games for days after the storm even ended.

Right now, Earl is set to rub up against New England, meaning there will be some rain, some flooding, and probably some damage, but Fenway will be good to go much, much earlier.

Jpgr91
09-02-2010, 06:43 PM
Precedent exists for this situation. When Hurricane Ike approached Houston in September 2008, MLB moved a weekend series between the Cubs and Astros to Miller Park and gave the Astros last bats.

This is a totally different situation. Red Sox ownership would have to forefit millions of dollars in revenue if the game is moved. I am sure a big reason why the game was moved from Houston to Milwaukee was because the financial hit was not too large.

havelj
09-02-2010, 06:52 PM
MSNBC's Bill Karins pointed out that it could easily still jog to the west.

MSNBC is still on the air?

cards press box
09-02-2010, 07:03 PM
This is a totally different situation. Red Sox ownership would have to forefit millions of dollars in revenue if the game is moved. I am sure a big reason why the game was moved from Houston to Milwaukee was because the financial hit was not too large.

I'm sure you're right about the financial impact but the decision really turn on that? In other words, if Earl makes a direct hit and Fenway Park is unplayable this weekend, wouldn't the games have to be moved regardless of financial impact on the home team?

It's not really the same thing since Houston took a direct hit from Ivan, so Minute Maid Field wasn't in shape to host games for days after the storm even ended.

Right now, Earl is set to rub up against New England, meaning there will be some rain, some flooding, and probably some damage, but Fenway will be good to go much, much earlier.

Well, the governor has declared the state of emergency and, naturally, I thought that Earl might hit the Boston area pretty hard. Hopefully, Earl blows out to sea and, at most, rubs against New England. If, however, Earl renders Fenway unplayable on Friday and Saturday, then I hope that MLB does the right thing and moves the series, as opposed to postponing the games until after the final Sunday of the regular season.

Having said that, I agree with this post. If Fenway is not playable on Friday but is good the rest of the weekend, then the teams will likely play a doubleheader on Saturday and then Sunday's game. That would be OK.

Ultimately, I suppose, the big question is whether Earl will be a glancing blow or a direct hit on the Olde Towne?

cards press box
09-02-2010, 07:11 PM
MSNBC is still on the air?

Bill Karins is a meteorologist for the Weather Channel. I haven't checked but has the Weather Channel made any predictions about Earl's path?

SCCWS
09-02-2010, 08:07 PM
Bill Karins is a meteorologist for the Weather Channel. I haven't checked but has the Weather Channel made any predictions about Earl's path?

Latest forecast would appear only Friday cancellation. Storm will dump only heavy rain Friday night and Saturday should be sunny.

Brian26
09-02-2010, 08:11 PM
I hope so.

That's all we need for our faint hopes of catching the Twins: more Doubleheaders stacked up so that pitching rotation can't cover the games and our bullpen has to be stretched thin yet again.

I think it will depend if they think they can get Saturday's game in. If yes, then they'll just take the rainout and have a DH. But if both Fri and Sat games are in jeopardy, I hope they are looking at alternate locations.

:hawk

"Well, I'll tell ya what. Joe West knew two days before this series began that this Hurricane was coming. I went down to talk to the grounds crew, and they showed me the system on the radar. They knew the exact hour it was going to hit. Meanwhile, I'm locked down in the basement of the Boston Marriot Copley Place playing cards with Mean Joe Groove while we're scheduled to play a tripleheader on Sunday."

#1swisher
09-02-2010, 08:28 PM
Bill Karins is a meteorologist for the Weather Channel. I haven't checked but has the Weather Channel made any predictions about Earl's path?

Wind/Flood impact

http://www.weather.com/outlook/weather-news/news/articles/trop-hurricane-earl-forecast-impacts_2010-09-02?page=2

SOXSINCE'70
09-02-2010, 09:22 PM
The last thing we need is another damn doubleheader, and I'm sure everyone here would agree with that sentiment. Two since the break isn't enough?!

I agree. And it seems the team that wins game 1 loses game 2 every time.
And vice versa.

SOXSINCE'70
09-02-2010, 09:23 PM
:hawk

"Well, I'll tell ya what. Joe West knew two days before this series began that this Hurricane was coming. I went down to talk to the grounds crew, and they showed me the system on the radar. They knew the exact hour it was going to hit. Meanwhile, I'm locked down in the basement of the Boston Marriot Copley Place playing cards with Mean Joe Groove while we're scheduled to play a tripleheader on Sunday."

I think you meant Mean Joe Grub.It just sounds like Groove.

SOXSINCE'70
09-02-2010, 09:29 PM
heavy yaz references expected.

With percipitation of yarns featuring Jim Rice, Dwight Evans, George Scott, Jim Lonborg and Rico Petricelli to follow. :D:

Jpgr91
09-02-2010, 10:27 PM
I'm sure you're right about the financial impact but the decision really turn on that? In other words, if Earl makes a direct hit and Fenway Park is unplayable this weekend, wouldn't the games have to be moved regardless of financial impact on the home team?

I would think that if Red Sox ownership feels they could fit a few games in between now and the start of the playoffs they would have no reason to move the games. I also think that any decision to move the location of a game rests solely with the home teams ownership, seeing that they would be the only stakeholder in the situation that could potentialy lose a lot of money.

hawkjt
09-03-2010, 08:34 AM
I heard Gammons say this morning that they likely will not get a game in until tomorrow nite, leaving them to play a day/nite doubleheader on Sunday, then the Sox have an afternoon game on Monday at Detroit.
4 games in 44 hours...with another 6 following that in 6 days? Then a day off and 3 with the Twins?....arrrgh,mother nature must be a twins fan.

ChiSoxGirl
09-03-2010, 08:41 AM
I heard Gammons say this morning that they likely will not get a game in until tomorrow nite, leaving them to play a day/nite doubleheader on Sunday, then the Sox have an afternoon game on Monday at Detroit.
4 games in 44 hours...with another 6 following that in 6 days? Then a day off and 3 with the Twins?....arrrgh,mother nature must be a twins fan.

No, not another damn doubleheader!!!! :angry: :angry: :angry: That would be our third one in a little over four weeks, which is not only cruel, but just not right. First, there was a rainout with Detroit from earlier in the year that had to be made up (August 3), then that idiocy in Kansas City on August 21, and now the possibility for a doubleheader on Spetember 5 because of a hurricane. Whatever can possibily work against the Sox seems to be doing just that. :(:

WisSoxFan
09-03-2010, 09:42 AM
Is the decision as to when and how to get the games in up to the Red Sox? Can MLB step in and say you can't play a day/night DH on Sunday because Chicago has to be in Detroit for an afternoon game on Monday? Is there something in the collective bargaining agreement that won't allow a team to play a night game in one city followed by a day game in another?

DSpivack
09-03-2010, 10:44 AM
Is the decision as to when and how to get the games in up to the Red Sox? Can MLB step in and say you can't play a day/night DH on Sunday because Chicago has to be in Detroit for an afternoon game on Monday? Is there something in the collective bargaining agreement that won't allow a team to play a night game in one city followed by a day game in another?

I think there is something like that if there is travel involved. If there's a DH, I would expect it to be a straight DH, but then the Red Sox would protest losing a gate, so I don't know.

roylestillman
09-03-2010, 11:00 AM
If there is a split double header on Sunday, would the Sunday night game be televised given ESPN's exclusivity.

No, wait it's Boston. ESPN is probably moving into position to bring a Sunday Night Baseball Special Edition.

dickallen15
09-03-2010, 11:08 AM
I heard Gammons say this morning that they likely will not get a game in until tomorrow nite, leaving them to play a day/nite doubleheader on Sunday, then the Sox have an afternoon game on Monday at Detroit.
4 games in 44 hours...with another 6 following that in 6 days? Then a day off and 3 with the Twins?....arrrgh,mother nature must be a twins fan.
Joe West obviously has some control of the weather.

#1swisher
09-03-2010, 12:04 PM
Per The Score, if the game is called due to "Earl" doubleheader Saturday.

LITTLE NELL
09-03-2010, 12:06 PM
Storm downgraded to Cat 3, I think only Friday's game is an issue.

Category only refers to the winds. We have had tropical storms here in Florida dump more rain than a hurricane. Amount of rain you get is based on how fast the storm is moving and what side of the storm you happen to be on. Atlantic storms dump more rain on their eastern sides which would be good for the Boston area as the storms western side will brush Boston.

peelwonder
09-03-2010, 12:18 PM
Category only refers to the winds. We have had tropical storms here in Florida dump more rain than a hurricane. Amount of rain you get is based on how fast the storm is moving and what side of the storm you happen to be on. Atlantic storms dump more rain on their eastern sides which would be good for the Boston area as the storms western side will brush Boston.


+1 Northeast Quadrant typically is the worst of a tropical system...surge and rain included....

A. Cavatica
09-03-2010, 12:34 PM
It's still good baseball weather in Boston and is supposed to remain so until 5 pm. They ought to get the game in now. But it looks like Earl is going to be a bust, and there's no guarantee even tonight's game will be rained out. Tomorrow's will be fine.

downstairs
09-03-2010, 12:37 PM
+1 Northeast Quadrant typically is the worst of a tropical system...surge and rain included....

Not really, you'd rather have the storm to the west of you (which the east coast can't do, but the Gulf can of course).

The east of the hurricane gets the wind and the west of the hurricane gets the rain. At least for Atlantic storms, because they travel east to west, and the wind is on the side its travelling, the rain is its "tail" so to speak.

When it gets in the Gulf, for example, it will often curve from its east/west path up and hit. But it will generally retain the winds on the east.

As well, there's really not a "worst" side. The less windy, more rainy side can cause just as much damage if it drops enough rain.

voodoochile
09-03-2010, 12:38 PM
I think there is something like that if there is travel involved. If there's a DH, I would expect it to be a straight DH, but then the Red Sox would protest losing a gate, so I don't know.

They risk losing it anyway because if it's not necessary it won't be made up on Monday after the season ends. However, I kind of like the idea of having a makeup game on Monday followed by a 163 on Tuesday. I don't know why that sounds like a good thing, but it does...:D:

FielderJones
09-03-2010, 12:40 PM
It's still good baseball weather in Boston and is supposed to remain so until 5 pm. They ought to get the game in now. But it looks like Earl is going to be a bust, and there's no guarantee even tonight's game will be rained out. Tomorrow's will be fine.

Forecast (http://www.weather.com/weather/hourbyhour/graph/02115?begHour=12&begDay=246#hhView) shows 90% chance of rain at game time, and 100% chance of rain an hour later. No need to start this today. Pitch Danks on six days rest and Floyd on five days rest Saturday and go for the sweep.

Noneck
09-03-2010, 12:42 PM
However, I kind of like the idea of having a makeup game on Monday followed by a 163 on Tuesday. I don't know why that sounds like a good thing, but it does...:D:

In Boston on Monday and In Minnesota on Tuesday? No thank you.

peelwonder
09-03-2010, 12:52 PM
Not really, you'd rather have the storm to the west of you (which the east coast can't do, but the Gulf can of course).

The east of the hurricane gets the wind and the west of the hurricane gets the rain. At least for Atlantic storms, because they travel east to west, and the wind is on the side its travelling, the rain is its "tail" so to speak.

When it gets in the Gulf, for example, it will often curve from its east/west path up and hit. But it will generally retain the winds on the east.

As well, there's really not a "worst" side. The less windy, more rainy side can cause just as much damage if it drops enough rain.


I've lived only 5 miles from the Gulf for 10 years now and about 90% of the storms have gotten more rain in the northeast quadrant. I'll have to disagree with you on that the northeast quadrant is always the worst.

For instance the eye of Ivan came right over us(Bon Secour, AL). To the west in Fairhope it wasn't nearly as bad but go to the east of us just a few miles and it was much worse. I'm really speaking from experience on these and much rather be on the west end of a storm.

For instance Katrina's worst damage came from the Northeast Side.

gregoriop
09-03-2010, 12:55 PM
In Boston on Monday and In Minnesota on Tuesday? No thank you.


Agreed. We can't get home field on luck this time.

Red Barchetta
09-03-2010, 05:51 PM
Per The Score, if the game is called due to "Earl" doubleheader Saturday.

Yep, that's what the SOX website indicates. I really hate double headers. More often than not, they end up as a split. :(: