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thomas35forever
07-13-2010, 10:51 PM
Girardi's lucky he's got a good roster.

Rockabilly
07-13-2010, 10:52 PM
NL played a great game today

Blueprint1
07-13-2010, 10:52 PM
You can't win every year.

GoGoCrede
07-13-2010, 10:52 PM
That was crappy. Enjoy the World Series win, Cubs.

We still love you, Matt!

hi im skot
07-13-2010, 10:52 PM
The Sox will sweep and win it at home.

http://tiffchow.typepad.com/deal-with-it.gif

Rikirk
07-13-2010, 10:52 PM
Dam...thornton now has a kick me sign on his back.

BadBobbyJenks
07-13-2010, 10:53 PM
Eric Karros is a mega douche, that is all.

Domeshot17
07-13-2010, 10:53 PM
Next year all sox players should politely decline, rest up, worry about the 2nd half, save some face lol. Ozzie can send Kotsay to be our rep.

Coops4Aces
07-13-2010, 10:53 PM
NL played a great game today

No one played a great game. That was pretty much atrocious.

BleacherBandit
07-13-2010, 10:53 PM
Anyone else think Brian Wilson looks like Peter Stomare?

hi im skot
07-13-2010, 10:53 PM
Dam...thornton now has a kick me sign on his back.

You meant Ortiz, right?

esbrechtel
07-13-2010, 10:53 PM
I think Girardi really blew it in this game

Rohan
07-13-2010, 10:53 PM
Eric Karros is a mega ******, that is all.

What did he say?

WhiteSox1989
07-13-2010, 10:53 PM
The Sox will sweep and win it at home.
I like this kind of attitude! :thumbsup:

thomas35forever
07-13-2010, 10:53 PM
What really shifted the momentum was the strike 'em out, throw 'em out and I recognized it right away.

JermaineDye05
07-13-2010, 10:53 PM
Girardi's a dope. I'm sure he didn't want to use A-Rod, but if he really wanted to win, you have got to play him, at the very least pinch hit him or pinch run him for that fat ass.

hi im skot
07-13-2010, 10:54 PM
Important question - who will win the freecreditreport.com band contest?!?

Rikirk
07-13-2010, 10:54 PM
Ortiz as well.

BNLSox
07-13-2010, 10:54 PM
Is there a reason Girardi didnt pinch run for Ortiz? I know he wasnt the tying run, but having an aged and overweight slugger on first in the 9th is a liability.

Not thrilled with the way he used his roster today.

Boondock Saint
07-13-2010, 10:54 PM
Important question - who will win the freecreditreport.com band contest?!?

Everybody loses.

Zakath
07-13-2010, 10:55 PM
I think Girardi really blew it in this game

Hell, he could have brought a pitcher in to run for Ortiz if he wanted to save A-Rod for later. Why leave a guy slower than Paulie on base in that situation?

GoGoCrede
07-13-2010, 10:55 PM
Guess they had to win it sometime, but too bad for Matt having his first All-Star game go this way.

Now that's over with, let's get back to real baseball and kicking Minnesota ass.

Viva Medias B's
07-13-2010, 10:55 PM
That sucked.

WhiteSox1989
07-13-2010, 10:55 PM
Important question - who will win the freecreditreport.com band contest?!?
I want the old band back.

Rockabilly
07-13-2010, 10:55 PM
No one played a great game. That was pretty much atrocious.

The NL pitchers shut down a great AL line up..

Domeshot17
07-13-2010, 10:55 PM
Is there a reason Girardi didnt pinch run for Ortiz? I know he wasnt the tying run, but having an aged and overweight slugger on first in the 9th is a liability.

Not thrilled with the way he used his roster today.

Arod on the bench, you don't pinch run for a non tying or winning run. That is about the only play where Ortiz ills you, where he just gets caught in between.

thomas35forever
07-13-2010, 10:56 PM
Guess they had to win it sometime
It's appropriate that it happened in a year like this.

Zakath
07-13-2010, 10:57 PM
What really shifted the momentum was the strike 'em out, throw 'em out and I recognized it right away.

One of a number of AL mental mistakes that cost them the game. Stupid play by Andrus.

Rohan
07-13-2010, 10:57 PM
Arod on the bench, you don't pinch run for a non tying or winning run. That is about the only play where Ortiz ills you, where he just gets caught in between.


Welp.. It happened. :rolleyes:

Boondock Saint
07-13-2010, 10:57 PM
The NL pitchers shut down a great AL line up..

That'll happen when you have your insurance run overslide 2nd on a steal and have a key runner not make it from first to second on a single in the ninth.

soxinem1
07-13-2010, 10:57 PM
Watching the three OF's from HOU, ARI, and CHC jump in the air at the end had me believe that those three established an All-Star record:

First time in NL history that the teams of the three OF's who jumped and bumped after the last out are guaranteed to not play in the post-season.

Congrats...

thomas35forever
07-13-2010, 10:57 PM
One of a number of AL mental mistakes that cost them the game. Stupid play by Andrus.
The little things mean the difference.

soltrain21
07-13-2010, 10:58 PM
Hell, he could have brought a pitcher in to run for Ortiz if he wanted to save A-Rod for later. Why leave a guy slower than Paulie on base in that situation?

In no way would he bring a pitcher in to run. You are crazy if he think he'd do that. The team he did it for would go ape****.

BadBobbyJenks
07-13-2010, 10:58 PM
What did he say?

He was yelling into the mic and getting excited like he was playing.

soltrain21
07-13-2010, 10:59 PM
Watching the three OF's from HOU, ARI, and CHC jump in the air at the end had me believe that those three established an All-Star record:

First time in NL history that the teams of the three OF's who jumped and bumped after the last out are guaranteed to not play in the post-season.

Congrats...

They were excited they won and celebrated. Byrd had a nice little game for himself. Wouldn't you be excited too?

ChiSoxGirl
07-13-2010, 10:59 PM
Guess they had to win it sometime, but too bad for Matt having his first All-Star game go this way.

Now that's over with, let's get back to real baseball and kicking Minnesota ass.

This. :thumbsup:

1908<2005
07-13-2010, 10:59 PM
Game 1 of the World Series will be at Wrigley Field folks.

hi im skot
07-13-2010, 11:00 PM
They were excited they won and celebrated. Byrd had a nice little game for himself. Wouldn't you be excited too?

We're White Sox fans - fun is overrated.

Boondock Saint
07-13-2010, 11:00 PM
Game 1 of the World Series will be at Wrigley Field folks.

:tealpolice:

BadBobbyJenks
07-13-2010, 11:00 PM
Watching the three OF's from HOU, ARI, and CHC jump in the air at the end had me believe that those three established an All-Star record:

First time in NL history that the teams of the three OF's who jumped and bumped after the last out are guaranteed to not play in the post-season.

Congrats...

The nerve of people to get excited about winning for the first time since 1996!!!!! :angry: :angry: :angry: GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

hi im skot
07-13-2010, 11:00 PM
Game 1 of the World Series will be at Wrigley Field folks.

Nope, on so many levels.

thomas35forever
07-13-2010, 11:01 PM
Just a reminder, Jason Bere gave up the game-winning hit in the '94 ASG.

chisoxfanatic
07-13-2010, 11:01 PM
Game 1 of the World Series will be at Wrigley Field folks.
:tealpolice:

Back to the games that really matter.

thomas35forever
07-13-2010, 11:01 PM
:tealpolice:

Back to the games that really matter.
This one counted, remember?

soxinem1
07-13-2010, 11:02 PM
One of a number of AL mental mistakes that cost them the game. Stupid play by Andrus.

Lets hope it does not rub off on the White Sox All-Star representatives who were unfortunate enough to have to share the field with him.

hi im skot
07-13-2010, 11:02 PM
Just a reminder, Jason Bere gave up the game-winning hit in the '94 ASG.

And we know how that worked out for him.

thomas35forever
07-13-2010, 11:03 PM
And we know how that worked out for him.
Could you elaborate? I only have vague memories of him.

soxinem1
07-13-2010, 11:04 PM
They were excited they won and celebrated. Byrd had a nice little game for himself. Wouldn't you be excited too?

Considering that none of their teams will be in the post-season, uh, no....

GoGoCrede
07-13-2010, 11:04 PM
Considering none of their teams will be in the post-season, uh, no....

All the more reason for them to celebrate.


I hope people don't rag too much on Matt tomorrow.

Baron
07-13-2010, 11:05 PM
I wasnt able to watch Joe Mauer screw up what did he do?

soltrain21
07-13-2010, 11:06 PM
Considering that none of their teams will be in the post-season, uh, no....

Whatever you say fun police.

Edit - And you know what? It's probably the thrill of a lifetime for some of these guys. It's very stupid to think they shouldn't be excited about winning. Their teams are terrible, but that doesn't mean they can't be excited for themselves for a the accomplishment of making the team, and then helping that team win.

tstrike2000
07-13-2010, 11:06 PM
Ok, NL won, Fox continues to have announcers to suck, and this break is over after tomorrow. Now lets continue to put the rest of the division in our dust.

hi im skot
07-13-2010, 11:10 PM
Could you elaborate? I only have vague memories of him.

Well, 1994 was easily Bere's best season. He essentially flirted with mediocrity after '94.

chisoxfanatic
07-13-2010, 11:10 PM
Oh, I hear enough of that stupid "I love LA" song during hockey season (it's the Kings' goal song)...I didn't need to hear it in it's full form.

tstrike2000
07-13-2010, 11:13 PM
Oh, I hear enough of that stupid "I love LA" song during hockey season (it's the Kings' goal song)...I didn't need to hear it in it's full form.

They knew you'd be watching and played it just for you.

TDog
07-13-2010, 11:15 PM
Is there a reason Girardi didnt pinch run for Ortiz? I know he wasnt the tying run, but having an aged and overweight slugger on first in the 9th is a liability.

Not thrilled with the way he used his roster today.

Of course there was a reason Girardi didn't pinch-run for Ortiz. Aside from the fact that he didn't have anyone available to pinch-run for Ortiz, Ortiz's run doesn't mean anything. If Boston had been in that situation in a game they needed to win, Francona wouldn't have pinch-run for Ortiz because the pinch-runner wouldn't have tied the game. All you are doing is wasting a player.

If the game were in September with the rosters expanded, Francona might have put in a speedy weak hitter and gamble not having Ortiz available if the game goes into extra innings. Or he could use a pitcher and scramble if the Ortiz spot came up in extra innings. There is no way you are going to bring in a pitcher to pinch run for the AL in an All-Star Game.

The game wasn't lost because Girardi didn't hold back a speedy player to pinch-run for Ortiz with the tying run at the plate in the ninth inning, as ridiculous as that sounds. The game was lost because Thornton couldn't get strike three past Byrd and then gave up a two-out, three-run double.

There isn't a huge difference between the American League and the National League, as much as people around here insist on calling it a minor league.

I really didn't want Thornton to pitch tonight. Fortunately, he had one of his bad outings in a game where it didn't cost the White Sox. If the White Sox get to the World Series, I am confident they can win in National League ballparks. They didn't need the homefield advantage to win in 2005. Actually, the only game they lost in the 2005 postseason was at home.

longshot7
07-13-2010, 11:17 PM
Oh, I hear enough of that stupid "I love LA" song during hockey season (it's the Kings' goal song)...I didn't need to hear it in it's full form.

Who played it - Fox? What a terrible choice! Everyone knows that Anaheim is not LA.
(oh, and I DO love LA)

mccoydp
07-13-2010, 11:20 PM
Time to trade Thornton.

Rdy2PlayBall
07-13-2010, 11:22 PM
Time to trade Thornton.Dump him and PK to save money and maybe get some prospects since we're sellers.

twinsuck
07-13-2010, 11:23 PM
oh well, 3 straight at home isn't too shabby. :tongue:

Boondock Saint
07-13-2010, 11:26 PM
oh well, 3 straight at home isn't too shabby. :tongue:

You mean two straight. :wink: :cool:

twinsuck
07-13-2010, 11:27 PM
You mean two straight. :wink: :cool:
I am corrected. :redface:

Boondock Saint
07-13-2010, 11:30 PM
I am corrected. :redface:

You aren't corrected. It was a clever "sweep" comment. A little too clever, I guess. :)

twinsuck
07-13-2010, 11:33 PM
You aren't corrected. It was a clever "sweep" comment. A little too clever, I guess. :)
I got it. you're just sure the Sox won't let it get to the 3rd straight game at home. :wink:

MtGrnwdSoxFan
07-13-2010, 11:46 PM
On my Facebook, the Cubbie fans are gloating like it's Christmas morning.

Take your All-Star win. I'd rather lose the ASG and be in first 7 days a week, and twice on Thursday.

palehozenychicty
07-14-2010, 12:19 AM
Of course there was a reason Girardi didn't pinch-run for Ortiz. Aside from the fact that he didn't have anyone available to pinch-run for Ortiz, Ortiz's run doesn't mean anything. If Boston had been in that situation in a game they needed to win, Francona wouldn't have pinch-run for Ortiz because the pinch-runner wouldn't have tied the game. All you are doing is wasting a player.

If the game were in September with the rosters expanded, Francona might have put in a speedy weak hitter and gamble not having Ortiz available if the game goes into extra innings. Or he could use a pitcher and scramble if the Ortiz spot came up in extra innings. There is no way you are going to bring in a pitcher to pinch run for the AL in an All-Star Game.

The game wasn't lost because Girardi didn't hold back a speedy player to pinch-run for Ortiz with the tying run at the plate in the ninth inning, as ridiculous as that sounds. The game was lost because Thornton couldn't get strike three past Byrd and then gave up a two-out, three-run double.

There isn't a huge difference between the American League and the National League, as much as people around here insist on calling it a minor league.

I really didn't want Thornton to pitch tonight. Fortunately, he had one of his bad outings in a game where it didn't cost the White Sox. If the White Sox get to the World Series, I am confident they can win in National League ballparks. They didn't need the homefield advantage to win in 2005. Actually, the only game they lost in the 2005 postseason was at home.

Indeed. I think it's disrespectful. The best players in the NL can do it anywhere, and the AL is the same.

tstrike2000
07-14-2010, 12:32 AM
On my Facebook, the Cubbie fans are gloating like it's Christmas morning.

Perhaps they should buy the Cubune tomorrow and re-look at the NL Central standings.

Crede24Thome25
07-14-2010, 12:45 AM
I think Girardi really blew it in this game
exactly how do you not have A-roid in the game(at least to pinch run for ortiz). Matt really needs to work on throwing his other pitches for strikes besides the fastball. Another example of him getting ahead 0-2 and walking a batter. I still love you Matt just don't do in a Sox game please:D:

TDog
07-14-2010, 01:19 AM
exactly how do you not have A-roid in the game(at least to pinch run for ortiz). Matt really needs to work on throwing his other pitches for strikes besides the fastball. Another example of him getting ahead 0-2 and walking a batter. I still love you Matt just don't do in a Sox game please:D:

I can't imagine any manager pinch-running for Ortiz in that situation.

BadBobbyJenks
07-14-2010, 01:21 AM
There isn't a huge difference between the American League and the National League, as much as people around here insist on calling it a minor league.



There is actually a difference.

Crede24Thome25
07-14-2010, 01:28 AM
I can't imagine any manager pinch-running for Ortiz in that situation.
Just a thought, but arod should have been in the game any how.

october23sp
07-14-2010, 01:46 AM
Eh, whatever, real baseball starts again very soon.

doublem23
07-14-2010, 05:58 AM
Just a reminder, Jason Bere gave up the game-winning hit in the '94 ASG.

So, there's going to be a strike?

Madvora
07-14-2010, 07:36 AM
Girardi's lucky he's got a good roster.
Girardi's lucky he doesn't have to worry about the World Series this year.

Moses_Scurry
07-14-2010, 07:57 AM
Every team has guys who are going to have bad all-star games and good all-star games. Thornton isn't the only culprit, but he was the most visible one. Thornton didn't only score 1 run. Thornton didn't get the guys on first and third with 1 out. Thornton didn't get thrown out at second on a basehit to the outfield.

Oh well, winning the WS at home will be better anyways!

Hitmen77
07-14-2010, 08:43 AM
On my Facebook, the Cubbie fans are gloating like it's Christmas morning.

Take your All-Star win. I'd rather lose the ASG and be in first 7 days a week, and twice on Thursday.

That's just idiotic.

This is why I hate many Cubs fans. They come out of the wood work after hiding from baseball discussions for the last month to gloat about this? :rolleyes:
Maybe we should hand over the "BP Cup" to them too.

I guess they have no shame even when they're team is sucking at 10 games out in 4th place while the Sox have skyrocketed to 1st place. Enjoy it suckers, tomorrow you can go back to pretending that there is no baseball news in Chicago this summer.

LongLiveFisk
07-14-2010, 08:48 AM
On my Facebook, the Cubbie fans are gloating like it's Christmas morning.

I had one on my FB doing the same. So I commented, "Congratulations! Now the Cubs will have homefield advantage in the World Series! LOL"

:rolling:

TheOldRoman
07-14-2010, 08:51 AM
The Sox will sweep and win it at home.

http://tiffchow.typepad.com/deal-with-it.gif

:rolling: Where do you get this ****?

Hitmen77
07-14-2010, 08:52 AM
There isn't a huge difference between the American League and the National League, as much as people around here insist on calling it a minor league.

I really didn't want Thornton to pitch tonight. Fortunately, he had one of his bad outings in a game where it didn't cost the White Sox. If the White Sox get to the World Series, I am confident they can win in National League ballparks. They didn't need the homefield advantage to win in 2005. Actually, the only game they lost in the 2005 postseason was at home.

Agreed. We're way too many steps away from worrying about how this will affect the Sox in October. If it's NYY or Bos in the Series again, then I don't give a **** that they don't have home field.

If the Sox continue their run in the 2nd half and make it, they should still be able to take care of business.

There is actually a difference.

Agreed. Just because the NL won their first all star win in 14 years isn't evidence that they're about equal to the AL. The better proof is interleague play and the AL has had a winning record there for quite a few years in a row.

That doesn't mean that the NL is like a minor league, but those teams still don't have to get past powerhouses like NYY and Bos to get anywhere.

chisoxfanatic
07-14-2010, 08:56 AM
The Sox did well in NL parks anyways...I think Ozzie manages the NL-style game very well.

fox23
07-14-2010, 09:06 AM
There isn't a huge difference between the American League and the National League, as much as people around here insist on calling it a minor league.



Yeah, other than the fact the AL has mopped up on the NL the last 7 years in a row.

hi im skot
07-14-2010, 09:22 AM
:rolling: Where do you get this ****?

This one is a pretty popular internet meme.

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l4jb4suL2d1qz7um3o1_500.gif

http://knowyourmeme.com/i/000/052/813/original/Deal_with_it_Seal_with_it_gif.gif?1275685123

WhiteSox1989
07-14-2010, 09:28 AM
This one is a pretty popular internet meme.

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l4jb4suL2d1qz7um3o1_500.gif

http://knowyourmeme.com/i/000/052/813/original/Deal_with_it_Seal_with_it_gif.gif?1275685123

:lol:

Spinelli was such a bad ass.

Railsplitter
07-14-2010, 09:29 AM
I'm with the folks who say this means the Sox will clinch a Series sweep at home :thumbsup:

Of the 102 Series that involved teams that played in different parks, only two saw the home team win every game.

I've said it before and I'll say it again if "home field advantage" were true, every team would be .500

g0g0
07-14-2010, 09:31 AM
Yeah, other than the fact the AL has mopped up on the NL the last 7 years in a row.

It goes in cycles. I think the NL still leads the series overall but it's almost even. Something like 41-38-2. The AL needed to catch-up!

Iwritecode
07-14-2010, 09:35 AM
I wasnt able to watch Joe Mauer screw up what did he do?

Threw the ball about 10 feet to the right of second base on a steal attempt.

Hitmen77
07-14-2010, 09:39 AM
It goes in cycles. I think the NL still leads the series overall but it's almost even. Something like 41-38-2. The AL needed to catch-up!

I think he meant 7 years in a row in interleague play.
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/history/interleague/records.jsp

LongLiveFisk
07-14-2010, 09:40 AM
It goes in cycles. I think the NL still leads the series overall but it's almost even. Something like 41-38-2. The AL needed to catch-up!

True. There was a time (I think in the '70s and part of the '80s) that the NL totally dominated. IIRC, they had a streak that surpassed this AL streak.

fox23
07-14-2010, 09:45 AM
True. There was a time (I think in the '70s and part of the '80s) that the NL totally dominated. IIRC, they had a streak that surpassed this AL streak.

Well yeah, same as in every sports league. But right now the AL is killing the NL and making them look like an inferior league.

Oh, and btw, I was talking about interleague play, not the all star game.

TheOldRoman
07-14-2010, 09:49 AM
This one is a pretty popular internet meme.

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l4jb4suL2d1qz7um3o1_500.gif

http://knowyourmeme.com/i/000/052/813/original/Deal_with_it_Seal_with_it_gif.gif?1275685123Wow. And I just picked up on the "Haters gonna hate" boy. I have much to learn.

hi im skot
07-14-2010, 09:52 AM
Wow. And I just picked up on the "Haters gonna hate" boy. I have much to learn.

Eh, I'm just a dork with too much time on my hands. :cool:

PatK
07-14-2010, 09:53 AM
I wasnt able to watch Joe Mauer screw up what did he do?

Mauer also had a baserunning blunder. He ran to third on a ball hit to short and was thrown out.

I can't see Joe being that stupid on his own, which makes me wonder if he was getting a "run on contact" sign.

Carneyman14
07-14-2010, 09:57 AM
Mauer also had a baserunning blunder. He ran to third on a ball hit to short and was thrown out.

I can't see Joe being that stupid on his own, which makes me wonder if he was getting a "run on contact" sign.

Well then genius McCarver was like "Mauer did what he was supposed to. If the ball is hit to your left as a runner you take off." THE BALL WAS TO HIS RIGHT. Only when he started running did it pass him on his left side. I was yelling at the TV at that point

SBSoxFan
07-14-2010, 01:53 PM
Well, nothing like a 45+ minute pregame show to ruin viewership in the Eastern time zones.

According to Buck and McCarver every defense play made was an outstanding or heads up play. :rolleyes: The softball game was much more enjoyable.

I agree with the previous poster who said Thornton needs to start throwing his other pitches. Does he only have one other? I'm tired of seeing Sox pitchers waste so many fastballs on 0-2 and 1-2. I'm thinking a slider to Byrd didn't even have to be that good to get him after seeing nothing but fastballs.

white sox bill
07-14-2010, 04:26 PM
I know there are some people here who don't think the ASG should count, thats is another one of Buds failures. Can I ask why??

kobo
07-14-2010, 04:43 PM
I know there are some people here who don't think the ASG should count, thats is another one of Buds failures. Can I ask why??
Because an exhibition game should not be used to determine who gets home field advantage in the World Series.

LongLiveFisk
07-14-2010, 04:50 PM
Because an exhibition game should not be used to determine who gets home field advantage in the World Series.

I understand why they are doing it. They are trying to liven up the ASG, which is normally boring to most people. Now there are actual stakes. BUT, I just feel that if you have the best record in baseball, you have earned the right to have home field advantage. You earned that right playing hard for that record over the course of six whole months. Being denied due to the outcome of one game that was not only exhibition, but was a mixture of a bunch of everyone's players from your league and not even your own team seems asinine.

soltrain21
07-14-2010, 04:58 PM
Eh, I'm just a dork with too much time on my hands. :cool:

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l3vew1Nb1n1qb4mzio1_400.gif

sox1970
07-14-2010, 05:02 PM
...and it was the lowest rated All-Star Game ever. So that rule must not spice it up enough for people to watch.

slavko
07-14-2010, 05:11 PM
exactly how do you not have A-roid in the game(at least to pinch run for ortiz). Matt really needs to work on throwing his other pitches for strikes besides the fastball. Another example of him getting ahead 0-2 and walking a batter. I still love you Matt just don't do in a Sox game please:D:

If All-Star quality boppers know a straight fastball is coming, they have a pretty good shot at squaring it up. And head-high waste pitches are just that. No one's going to swing at them. What works against KC didn't work in the ASG.

SBSoxFan
07-14-2010, 05:48 PM
If All-Star quality boppers know a straight fastball is coming, they have a pretty good shot at squaring it up. And head-high waste pitches are just that. No one's going to swing at them. What works against KC didn't work in the ASG.

So, you're saying Matt's been getting by the last 5 years by feasting on the KCs and Baltimores of the world? I doubt it.

Rdy2PlayBall
07-14-2010, 05:53 PM
...and it was the lowest rated All-Star Game ever. So that rule must not spice it up enough for people to watch.Pitcher-duals are probably not that fun to the casual baseball fan, which might be another reason.

slavko
07-14-2010, 09:18 PM
So, you're saying Matt's been getting by the last 5 years by feasting on the KCs and Baltimores of the world? I doubt it.

Has he been getting by throwing near 100% straight 97 MPH fastballs to whoever? Say yes.

FielderJones
07-14-2010, 09:29 PM
Has he been getting by throwing near 100% straight 97 MPH fastballs to whoever? Say yes.

If he'd thrown one of those 0-2 to Byrd in the zone, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

slavko
07-14-2010, 10:09 PM
If he'd thrown one of those 0-2 to Byrd in the zone, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.


You're spot on. Or not in the zone, but not ridiculously out of it. But the next guy was ready, willing and able.

Bob Roarman
07-15-2010, 02:44 AM
Well Thornton's career is done it seems. Wow, it was just one outing guys.

The All Star game is a joke. If it's for the fans, don't put the importance of home field advantage on the line. If you don't want to go that route, then you let the managers pick the players and have the fans vote in just a couple. If it's going to have that kind of significance, I don't want a voting war between New York and Boston deciding who makes the team.

TDog
07-15-2010, 03:49 AM
Well Thornton's career is done it seems. Wow, it was just one outing guys.

The All Star game is a joke. If it's for the fans, don't put the importance of home field advantage on the line. If you don't want to go that route, then you let the managers pick the players and have the fans vote in just a couple. If it's going to have that kind of significance, I don't want a voting war between New York and Boston deciding who makes the team.

Homefield advantage isn't that important for the World Series. The World Series rarely goes seven games.

And,. of course, fans voting had nothing to do with the AL losing. If there wasn't such an emphasis on one-dimensional designated hitters in the American League, though, Ortiz wouldn't have been on the team.

doublem23
07-15-2010, 04:23 AM
Homefield advantage isn't that important for the World Series. The World Series rarely goes seven games.

And,. of course, fans voting had nothing to do with the AL losing. If there wasn't such an emphasis on one-dimensional designated hitters in the American League, though, Ortiz wouldn't have been on the team.

You realize home-field advantage has more implications than just who gets to be at home in a potential Game 7, right?

Making the All-Star Game determine home field advantage is stupid, but so is just about any other method. Giving it to the team with the better record is stupid. Alternating it year by year is stupid. Even giving it to the league with the better interleague record, my personal favorite, is stupid.

TDog
07-15-2010, 10:27 AM
You realize home-field advantage has more implications than just who gets to be at home in a potential Game 7, right?

Making the All-Star Game determine home field advantage is stupid, but so is just about any other method. Giving it to the team with the better record is stupid. Alternating it year by year is stupid. Even giving it to the league with the better interleague record, my personal favorite, is stupid.

Playing it at an neutral site would be even stupider.

The way baseball does it, 2-3-2, the homefield advantage is minimized. Each team is guaranteed two games at home. The team with homefield advantage will play three on the road before playing three at home. In the World Series, homefield advantage is slight and rarely comes into play.

Rockabilly
07-15-2010, 10:30 AM
exactly how do you not have A-roid in the game(at least to pinch run for ortiz). Matt really needs to work on throwing his other pitches for strikes besides the fastball. Another example of him getting ahead 0-2 and walking a batter. I still love you Matt just don't do in a Sox game please:D:


A Rod has an injured thumb. That's probably why he didn't play.

doublem23
07-15-2010, 11:05 AM
Playing it at an neutral site would be even stupider.

The way baseball does it, 2-3-2, the homefield advantage is minimized. Each team is guaranteed two games at home. The team with homefield advantage will play three on the road before playing three at home. In the World Series, homefield advantage is slight and rarely comes into play.

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Playing it at a neutral site would be stupider, which is why I, or anyone else, hasn't mentioned that.

I like that baseball uses the 2-3-2 format for the World Series were homefield is difficult to determine (the fact they use it in the LDS, too, however, is outright ridiculous).

That said, I don't see how you can't think home field doesn't have some advantages, even before a Game 7 is ever even necessary. Home field offers the biggest advantage in baseball in any sport, it directly impacts the game.

TheOldRoman
07-15-2010, 11:14 AM
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Playing it at a neutral site would be stupider, which is why I, or anyone else, hasn't mentioned that.

I like that baseball uses the 2-3-2 format for the World Series were homefield is difficult to determine (the fact they use it in the LDS, too, however, is outright ridiculous).

That said, I don't see how you can't think home field doesn't have some advantages, even before a Game 7 is ever even necessary. Home field offers the biggest advantage in baseball in any sport, it directly impacts the game.Why is that? It is fine because it keeps somewhat with the normal rythm of baseball, playing everyday, 3 game sets. It is one thing in basketball and hockey when there is a day or two off between all games, but it would be bad for the baseball playoffs. We don't need two extra days off added to any series. Aside from that, I'm sure the players like it this way. It would suck if an east coast team played a west coast team and they had to take four cross-country 4.5 hour flights during a series.