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LITTLE NELL
07-09-2010, 01:52 PM
Now that we lost Peavy for who knows how long should the Sox consider bring Javy back. It looks like the Yankees are going to get Lee and Javy just might be available. If the Yankees pick up part of his salary the worst Javy would do as a fifth starter is win half his starts and eat up a lot of innings.

Boondock Saint
07-09-2010, 01:53 PM
Now that we lost Peavy for who knows how long should the Sox consider bring Javy back. It looks like the Yankees are going to get Lee and Javy just might be available. If the Yankees pick up part of his salary the worst Javy would do as a fifth starter is win half his starts and eat up a lot of innings.

:bundy

sox1970
07-09-2010, 01:54 PM
Hudson is going to get 15 starts, and he'll be in the 85-95 inning range. He'll be fine.

Craig Grebeck
07-09-2010, 01:55 PM
I would do it. He won't cost much.

pythons007
07-09-2010, 01:58 PM
This thread could get ugly really quick....

VMSNS
07-09-2010, 02:00 PM
If the Sox are seriously preparing for the playoffs, then Javy won't do us any good. If we can get him for cheap, then I guess I wouldn't mind having him, but you can't really expect much out of him during those big game situations.

The best place for him to go is a small-market NL team, which is exactly where some people on the Score were predicting him to go earlier this morning.

tstrike2000
07-09-2010, 02:03 PM
:vazquez:

Hey, you know I'm your 5th and 6th inning man.

LITTLE NELL
07-09-2010, 02:04 PM
The guy is not exactly a slug, he was 15-10 last year in Atlanta with a 2.87 ERA. Lifetime he is 149-146 with a 4.21 ERA. I think he would be an ideal 5th starter, plus he's never hurt and saves your bullpen by eating up innings.

russ99
07-09-2010, 02:07 PM
LOL.

As if the Sox would bring him back after the way he burned bridges on the way out.

DaveFeelsRight
07-09-2010, 02:08 PM
The guy is not exactly a slug, he was 15-10 last year in Atlanta with a 2.87 ERA. Lifetime he is 149-146 with a 4.21 ERA. I think he would be an ideal 5th starter, plus he's never hurt and saves your bullpen by eating up innings.in the NL, on a team with no expectations.

mzh
07-09-2010, 02:08 PM
:chunks

Sorry, I'd rather trust Dan Hudson in September than Javy Vazquez

Jurr
07-09-2010, 02:09 PM
:chunks

Sorry, I'd rather trust Dan Hudson in September than Javy Vazquez

Hell, I'd rather trust Floyd Bannister than Javy. At least Floyd's old ass would care that he was getting rocked.

WhiteSoxFTW
07-09-2010, 02:10 PM
No ****ing way.

Ron Karkovice
07-09-2010, 02:13 PM
I'll take him if Hudson sucks his first 4 or 5 starts

DumpJerry
07-09-2010, 02:13 PM
Sure, bring him back. Here are the conditions:

1. He cannot pitch in any games we need to win or are otherwise called a "big game."

2. Every time Coop or Ozzie make a mound visit, they have to say "please" and "thank you" to him so he won't have hurt feelings no matter how many hits/run he just gave up that inning. An occasional "I love you" from AJ or Ozzie during a mound visit would not hurt.

3. Any and all fans who boo him (don't know why someone would), must be immediately ejected from the ballpark and banned from all MLB games until five years after Javy's last appearance in a MLB game.

Have I left out anything?

LITTLE NELL
07-09-2010, 02:14 PM
A lot of Javy hate going on here.
I hope Hudson can do the job, lets hope he can handle the pressure of being thrown into the heat of a pennant race. I would have liked Hudson to begin his major league career at the start of a season rather than being called up basically to fill the shoes of a former Cy Young winner.

WhiteSox5187
07-09-2010, 02:15 PM
I have no desire for a guy who quit on his team in the middle of a pennant race. He can go back to his house in Puerto Rico for all I care.

Gavin
07-09-2010, 02:16 PM
But he was awesome in the NL East....

RCWHITESOX
07-09-2010, 02:16 PM
in the NL, on a team that with no expectations.

The perfect team for him none other than the Cubs!

Coops4Aces
07-09-2010, 02:17 PM
A lot of Javy hate going on here.
I hope Hudson can do the job, lets hope he can handle the pressure of being thrown into the heat of a pennant race. I would have liked Hudson to begin his major league career at the start of a season rather than being called up basically to fill the shoes of a former Cy Young winner.

This is the exact reason to not want Javy.

mantis1212
07-09-2010, 02:20 PM
A lot of Javy hate going on here.
I hope Hudson can do the job, lets hope he can handle the pressure of being thrown into the heat of a pennant race. I would have liked Hudson to begin his major league career at the start of a season rather than being called up basically to fill the shoes of a former Cy Young winner.

That's not really true. The way I look at it, everyone moves up a notch and Hudson is now your fifth starter, even getting skipped once in a while.

As for Javy, not gonna happen. No one wants him here, and he doesn't want to be here.

Ron Karkovice
07-09-2010, 02:21 PM
That's not really true. The way I look at it, everyone moves up a notch and Hudson is now your fifth starter, even getting skipped once in a while.

As for Javy, not gonna happen. No one wants him here, and he doesn't want to be here.

How often do 5th starters actually get skipped in the second half of a season? Just wondering...

Madvora
07-09-2010, 02:22 PM
With guys like KW at Ozzie at the helm, once you leave here under bad circumstances, you never have a chance of coming back. Forget about this.

LITTLE NELL
07-09-2010, 02:24 PM
How often do 5th starters actually get skipped in the second half of a season? Just wondering...

Sox have 7 off days after the break so I guess thats 7 games Hudson doesn't start, but remember sometimes Burls needs a little dead arm rest.
Looking at those 7 days they do not come every five days, so some juggling would have to go on.

Jurr
07-09-2010, 02:26 PM
A lot of Javy hate going on here.
I hope Hudson can do the job, lets hope he can handle the pressure of being thrown into the heat of a pennant race. I would have liked Hudson to begin his major league career at the start of a season rather than being called up basically to fill the shoes of a former Cy Young winner.

If filling the shoes of Peavy means going 7-6 with a 4.50+ ERA, I think the kid's got a shot.

twinsuck
07-09-2010, 02:27 PM
NO. I'll take Hudson over that...

CWSpalehoseCWS
07-09-2010, 02:27 PM
I always liked Javy, but he folds in pressure games. I would prefer the Sox go after a bat and give Hudson a shot instead.

LITTLE NELL
07-09-2010, 02:29 PM
If filling the shoes of Peavy means going 7-6 with a 4.50+ ERA, I think the kid's got a shot.

I would be extremely happy with that out of a 5th starter.
Our pitchers including Peavy have all improved their records and ERAs in the last 5 weeks.

WizardsofOzzie
07-09-2010, 02:29 PM
Pulled from Office Space....

Michael Bolton (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0379114/): That's the worst idea I've ever heard in my life, Tom.
Samir (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0619651/): Yes, this is horrible, this idea.

eriqjaffe
07-09-2010, 02:31 PM
On the bright side, Vazquez always comes with a side order of Boone Logan!

wilburaga
07-09-2010, 02:37 PM
I think we should follow the example of Sully the pilot - when you're in trouble go for the Hudson.

GAsoxfan
07-09-2010, 02:38 PM
Have people erased 2008 from their memories? How could you want Javy back on the Sox? I would rather give Hudson, Torres, and Pena a shot before bringing in Javy.

The Yankees should just give him to the Red Sox or Rays. Dumping Javy before the pennant race heats up is addition by subtraction.

21stcenturySox
07-09-2010, 02:45 PM
Now that we lost Peavy for who knows how long should the Sox consider bring Javy back.
:roflmao:

RockJock07
07-09-2010, 03:19 PM
Pulled from Office Space....

Michael Bolton (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0379114/): That's the worst idea I've ever heard in my life, Tom.
Samir (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0619651/): Yes, this is horrible, this idea.

Javy...Naga.....Naga.....Not gonna pitch here anymore!

Hitmen77
07-09-2010, 03:36 PM
Sure, bring him back. Here are the conditions:

1. He cannot pitch in any games we need to win or are otherwise called a "big game."

2. Every time Coop or Ozzie make a mound visit, they have to say "please" and "thank you" to him so he won't have hurt feelings no matter how many hits/run he just gave up that inning. An occasional "I love you" from AJ or Ozzie during a mound visit would not hurt.

3. Any and all fans who boo him (don't know why someone would), must be immediately ejected from the ballpark and banned from all MLB games until five years after Javy's last appearance in a MLB game.

Have I left out anything?

:rolling:

Hitmen77
07-09-2010, 03:41 PM
A lot of Javy hate going on here.
I hope Hudson can do the job, lets hope he can handle the pressure of being thrown into the heat of a pennant race. I would have liked Hudson to begin his major league career at the start of a season rather than being called up basically to fill the shoes of a former Cy Young winner.

Let's see how Hudson does in a few starts first before we start clamoring for the Sox to trade away talent for another pitcher.

Technically, he's not starting his major league career now. He did pitch for us in September (against teams that were in contention for the playoffs) and did fairly well.

Is it ideal for him to have to start for us now? No, but I think he can be successful. If our other 4 starters pitch as well as they've done recently then I don't think Hudson is going to be a "black hole" for us every 5th start.

PaleHoser
07-09-2010, 05:12 PM
I'd rather see Linebrink start before bringing Vazquez back.

Ron Karkovice
07-09-2010, 05:15 PM
I'd rather see Linebrink start before bringing Vazquez back.

:o:

tstrike2000
07-09-2010, 07:03 PM
I'd rather see Linebrink start before bringing Vazquez back.

Don't know if I'd go that far.

october23sp
07-09-2010, 07:21 PM
:bart

Lillian
07-09-2010, 07:23 PM
I think we should follow the example of Sully the pilot - when you're in trouble go for the Hudson.

Very clever. I like it.

Lillian
07-09-2010, 07:25 PM
Have people erased 2008 from their memories? How could you want Javy back on the Sox? I would rather give Hudson, Torres, and Pena a shot before bringing in Javy.

The Yankees should just give him to the Red Sox or Rays. Dumping Javy before the pennant race heats up is addition by subtraction.

Not only that, but based on his track record, he would be an asset to the Yankees pitching for those division rivals, in the heat of a pennant race.

Tragg
07-09-2010, 07:40 PM
Now that we lost Peavy for who knows how long should the Sox consider bring Javy back. It looks like the Yankees are going to get Lee and Javy just might be available. If the Yankees pick up part of his salary the worst Javy would do as a fifth starter is win half his starts and eat up a lot of innings.
Think the Yanks would take Flowers for him?

WhiteSoxOnly
07-09-2010, 09:29 PM
Love this thread.This beauty is why Sox fans are the best.The
biting,sarcastic humor here is second to none.Javy Vasquez
wearing a Sox uniform again,not in anyone's lifetime.

C-Dawg
07-09-2010, 11:42 PM
Yet another in a long line of ex-Sox players people have clamored for the return of, warranted or not.

Hey think we can get Swisher next year?

RadioheadRocks
07-10-2010, 12:28 AM
LOL.

As if the Sox would bring him back after the way he burned bridges on the way out.


No more calls, we have a winner.

thomas35forever
07-10-2010, 12:33 AM
I will think Kenny has lost his mind if he so much considers this.