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Coops4Aces
06-08-2010, 06:02 PM
Man I wish I had MLB Network right now. Luckily MLB TV is giving a free live look-in when Strasburg pitches tonight :bandance:

http://washington.nationals.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?topic_id=6350584

Whappeh
06-08-2010, 06:02 PM
I'm parked in front of my TV right now. Got nothing else to do for an hour.

Fenway
06-08-2010, 06:05 PM
Boswell

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/07/AR2010060704463.html?hpid%3Dskybox

Coops4Aces
06-08-2010, 06:07 PM
He threw a 2 balls and they booed him? I'm not sure if I should laugh or not.

SephClone89
06-08-2010, 06:09 PM
He threw a 2 balls and they booed him? I'm not sure if I should laugh or not.

Pretty sure they were booing the ump.

BadBobbyJenks
06-08-2010, 06:13 PM
He is flat out nasty and I get to hear Costas. :bandance:

mccoydp
06-08-2010, 06:14 PM
He threw a 2 balls and they booed him? I'm not sure if I should laugh or not.

I'm sure they were booing the ump, but there was no way that they were strikes.

Coops4Aces
06-08-2010, 06:15 PM
I'm sure they were booing the ump, but there was no way that they were strikes.

I assumed they were booing him especially after the 2nd pitch that wasn't even close.

mccoydp
06-08-2010, 06:15 PM
Thank you, Ryan Zimmerman, for the HR and the fantasy points. :D:

october23sp
06-08-2010, 06:19 PM
This is all I will be watching because I'm at work and it is the free game of the day on ipod touch.

BadBobbyJenks
06-08-2010, 06:20 PM
Man 99 on the 4 and 91/92 on the 2 seamer.

Lol and then he finishes you with that hard curve.

Coops4Aces
06-08-2010, 06:21 PM
100mph and then that curveball? My God!!!

october23sp
06-08-2010, 06:21 PM
He looks ****ing great.

mccoydp
06-08-2010, 06:21 PM
It's so good to see some excitement in D.C. for the "Natinals".

october23sp
06-08-2010, 06:22 PM
Cancel the postgame show.

october23sp
06-08-2010, 06:25 PM
4 Ks thru 2.

BadBobbyJenks
06-08-2010, 06:25 PM
K's the side and 4 out of 5.

Baron
06-08-2010, 06:25 PM
His curveball is sick....

Coops4Aces
06-08-2010, 06:26 PM
Sox @ Nats tix just arrived in the mail today, the Friday and Saturday games. Please stay on schedule Strasburg!

twinslayer
06-08-2010, 06:26 PM
I'm beginning to think even a sliver of this hype is justified. His stuff is nasty!

Boondock Saint
06-08-2010, 06:27 PM
I missed the first inning, but boy, did he ever impress me in the second. That deuce combined with that fastball is criminal.

EMachine10
06-08-2010, 06:28 PM
Man, he looks great. As advertised.

mccoydp
06-08-2010, 06:30 PM
Looks like Washington's pulling out some offensive support tonight to back up Strasburg.

HomeFish
06-08-2010, 06:31 PM
Is this former White Sox pre and post game show guy Dave Wills as the color commentator on MLB Network?

Coops4Aces
06-08-2010, 06:32 PM
Looks like Washington's pulling out some offensive support tonight to back up Strasburg.

I know you guys are going to kill me, but if Philly doesn't wake up, Washington will make a run at the East.

mccoydp
06-08-2010, 06:34 PM
I know you guys are going to kill me, but if Philly doesn't wake up, Washington will make a run at the East.

They're definitely starting to look better than they have for the last few years.

soxinem1
06-08-2010, 06:34 PM
I know you guys are going to kill me, but if Philly doesn't wake up, Washington will make a run at the East.

I just came back from DC and watched them. Even on defeat they have been competitive and are playing hard.

And that was before Strasburg.

What a difference a year makes.....

october23sp
06-08-2010, 06:38 PM
Kkkkk

october23sp
06-08-2010, 06:38 PM
Jeff Karstons look was epic.

KKKKKK.

mccoydp
06-08-2010, 06:39 PM
Ain't it going to be fun to watch the Sox against this guy? :redneck

Coops4Aces
06-08-2010, 06:39 PM
"6 of the last 7 have fanned" -Bob Costas

Or just 6 in a row

mccoydp
06-08-2010, 06:40 PM
Great play by Zimmerman and tag by Dunn.

Coops4Aces
06-08-2010, 06:40 PM
Ain't it going to be fun to watch the Sox against this guy? :redneck

If Sox fans have heard of the pitcher, the Sox will hit him.

Boondock Saint
06-08-2010, 06:41 PM
Ain't it going to be fun to watch the Sox against this guy? :redneck

I'm talking to some buddies right now about getting tickets.

Coops4Aces
06-08-2010, 06:42 PM
I'm talking to some buddies right now about getting tickets.

You'll need plane tickets as well :wink:

Boondock Saint
06-08-2010, 06:43 PM
You'll need plane tickets as well :wink:

Really? So much for that idea.

october23sp
06-08-2010, 06:47 PM
Anyone else just not care about the Nationals at bats?:redneck

BadBobbyJenks
06-08-2010, 06:48 PM
Anyone else just not care about the Nationals at bats?:redneck

I DVR'ed it so I could just watch him pitch, but I got sucked into watching it live anyway.

Boondock Saint
06-08-2010, 06:49 PM
Anyone else just not care about the Nationals at bats?:redneck

The next time the Nats come up to bat, I'm going to make dinner. :thumbsup:

EMachine10
06-08-2010, 06:54 PM
Whoops, cancel the plaque order. 2 runners on.

SephClone89
06-08-2010, 06:55 PM
Is this former White Sox pre and post game show guy Dave Wills as the color commentator on MLB Network?

Erm no.

That's Jim Kaat.

BadBobbyJenks
06-08-2010, 07:00 PM
So much for that hype train.

october23sp
06-08-2010, 07:00 PM
He's apparently human.

doublem23
06-08-2010, 07:00 PM
I know you guys are going to kill me, but if Philly doesn't wake up, Washington will make a run at the East.

Not this year.

HomeFish
06-08-2010, 07:05 PM
trivia: Jamie Burke was the last catcher to catch Strasburg in the minors

october23sp
06-08-2010, 07:28 PM
KKKKKKKKKKK.

Unbelievable stuff. The only flaw IMO is that he doesn't throw his fastball enough.

Boondock Saint
06-08-2010, 07:31 PM
KKKKKKKKKKK.

Unbelievable stuff. The only flaw IMO is that he doesn't throw his fastball enough.

I agree. It's that heater that's setting up the other stuff.

BadBobbyJenks
06-08-2010, 07:35 PM
Haha I am on the phone right now and I said I guarantee Dunn hits a homer on this pitch.

Boondock Saint
06-08-2010, 07:36 PM
Finally, the kid gets some run support.

kevingrt
06-08-2010, 07:37 PM
Kid is sick. We need a good nickname for him. He is awesome.

russ99
06-08-2010, 07:46 PM
I know it's the Pirates, but this kid is not pitching like it's his first start. Nasty stuff, 11Ks.

I wonder if he'll come back in the 7th, he's on a pitch count.

Hope the Sox don't have to face him.

asindc
06-08-2010, 07:50 PM
He is still throwing 95 with about 5 inches of tail on his fastball. 14 Ks through 7.

mccoydp
06-08-2010, 07:51 PM
It sounds like a ****ing playoff game in D.C. Good stuff!

october23sp
06-08-2010, 07:51 PM
14 K. Surpasses even the hype.

Boondock Saint
06-08-2010, 07:51 PM
Holy ****. I can not recall a more impressive debut.

russ99
06-08-2010, 07:51 PM
Wow. He's getting better the later he goes. 7 IP, 14K's - Kerry Wood's gotta be nervous.

Oh, and to all the fools who laughed when I picked him in my fantasy league, take that!!

EMachine10
06-08-2010, 07:52 PM
Are you kidding me? 14 K's through 7.

His night may be over. 100 pitch limit, at 94 now.

getonbckthr
06-08-2010, 07:53 PM
Just SICK!!!

october23sp
06-08-2010, 07:53 PM
This reminds me of the movie "Rookie of the Year."

kevingrt
06-08-2010, 07:53 PM
Early GOAT candidate.

Kid is sick nasty though!

arKnaD7
06-08-2010, 07:55 PM
wowzers :o:

mccoydp
06-08-2010, 07:55 PM
Oh, and to all the fools who laughed when I picked him in my fantasy league, take that!!

I tried to pick him up, but I wasn't fast enough (he was a FA). I couldn't get Ubaldo Jimenez either.

october23sp
06-08-2010, 07:55 PM
Book closed on Strasburg.

2 R, 4 H, 14 K, 0 BB

EMachine10
06-08-2010, 07:56 PM
I tried to pick him up, but I wasn't fast enough (he was a FA). I couldn't get Ubaldo Jimenez either.
Jimenez should have never been available. :o:

russ99
06-08-2010, 07:56 PM
I tried to pick him up, but I wasn't fast enough (he was a FA). I couldn't get Ubaldo Jimenez either.

I drafted him late and hung on once how I saw how he was eating up AA hitters.

mccoydp
06-08-2010, 07:57 PM
Good to see a Wee Willie at-bat. :redneck

BadBobbyJenks
06-08-2010, 07:58 PM
Kid is sick. We need a good nickname for him. He is awesome.

I assumed it was Stars-Burg

DuckSnort
06-08-2010, 08:00 PM
Amazing debut. Truly fun to watch that performance. I have to say I'm torn now. I have a couple of his rookie cards and the best one which was selling for around $20 this weekend (ebay) is now up to about 40-50. I was going to keep it, but I may just have to cash in :redneck

SephClone89
06-08-2010, 08:00 PM
When the hell is his second start?

EMachine10
06-08-2010, 08:02 PM
When the hell is his second start?
Sunday

Boondock Saint
06-08-2010, 08:03 PM
I assumed it was Stars-Burg

I'm getting a little tired of all the "name manipulation" nicknames. The greatest are more creative. The big hurt, the round mound of rebound, the great one, the big unit, prime time, the minister of defense, the human highlight reel, sweetness, the glove, magic. Those are the names that endure.

SephClone89
06-08-2010, 08:06 PM
Sunday

Too late for TBS to pick it up?

I'll be watching the World Cup anyway.

bridgeportcopper
06-08-2010, 08:17 PM
This kid is gonna be fun to watch. Except for a week from Saturday of course.

soltrain21
06-08-2010, 08:47 PM
What a stud.

Coops4Aces
06-08-2010, 08:55 PM
This kid is gonna be fun to watch. Except for a week from Saturday of course.

I wouldn't be surprised to see the Sox win. Rios and Konerko can "turn a 30-30 around" (That's for Hawk night :tongue:)

NDSox12
06-08-2010, 10:01 PM
Just got back from the game. Unbelievable performance and unbelievable atmosphere!

Coops4Aces
06-08-2010, 10:07 PM
Just got back from the game. Unbelievable performance and unbelievable atmosphere!

I think that's what I miss the most from '05, '06 and parts of '08.

Domeshot17
06-08-2010, 10:37 PM
So Jab, was this enough?

palehozenychicty
06-08-2010, 11:02 PM
I was most impressed with the 7th inning. The Pirates had no chance at all. Granted, they are the Pirates, but his curve is unreal. He will get rocked in time, but if he stays healthy, he should be a strong player in this game.

Bob Roarman
06-08-2010, 11:26 PM
The hype is going to be blinding, as it's the media's job, but wait for next season. Next season, friends and neighbors, we'll see how Strasburg fares. Or maybe even later this season. I'm not wishing him to do bad or anything, it's just that we have to see how the league adjusts to him and how he adjusts back to really gauge how good a pitcher he can be.

Boondock Saint
06-08-2010, 11:32 PM
The hype is going to be blinding, as it's the media's job, but wait for next season. Next season, friends and neighbors, we'll see how Strasburg fares. Or maybe even later this season. I'm not wishing him to do bad or anything, it's just that we have to see how the league adjusts to him and how he adjusts back to really gauge how good a pitcher he can be.

Well, I don't think anybody's crowning his ass just yet, but he went out there and showed what he's capable of. To do that well in your first start shows great ability, great confidence, and great composure. That stadium sounded like it was going to crumble to the ground from all the cheering after every strikeout, and he didn't buckle under the pressure.

LoveYourSuit
06-08-2010, 11:33 PM
Just looked at the higlights:

No walks is the most impressive stats of them all.

His control is unreal with the stuff he features.

He is my next pick for a perfecto, maybe even against our ****ty Sox.

RadioheadRocks
06-09-2010, 12:54 AM
The hype is going to be blinding, as it's the media's job, but wait for next season. Next season, friends and neighbors, we'll see how Strasburg fares. Or maybe even later this season. I'm not wishing him to do bad or anything, it's just that we have to see how the league adjusts to him and how he adjusts back to really gauge how good a pitcher he can be.


Not wishing him to do bad either, but I'm with you on this one. One phenomenal MLB debut does not guarantee the second coming of Cy Young (as the media would like us to believe).

Fenway
06-09-2010, 02:10 AM
See David Clyde

Still his stuff looks good but any pitcher with control looks good to a team that has never seen him before.

But the Nationals/Expos could be a force the next 5 years

palehozenychicty
06-09-2010, 04:25 AM
Well, I don't think anybody's crowning his ass just yet, but he went out there and showed what he's capable of. To do that well in your first start shows great ability, great confidence, and great composure. That stadium sounded like it was going to crumble to the ground from all the cheering after every strikeout, and he didn't buckle under the pressure.

Indeed. The hype for this guy started BEFORE he was drafted, and was building up exponentially. Impressive debut.

doublem23
06-09-2010, 06:31 AM
The hype is going to be blinding, as it's the media's job, but wait for next season. Next season, friends and neighbors, we'll see how Strasburg fares. Or maybe even later this season. I'm not wishing him to do bad or anything, it's just that we have to see how the league adjusts to him and how he adjusts back to really gauge how good a pitcher he can be.

Strasburg is earning a lot of that hype, though. He hasn't blinked yet as a professional, he was great in Spring Training, great in the minors, and great in his debut. There's not much more you can ask of a rookie, especially a former #1 overall pick.

soltrain21
06-09-2010, 06:51 AM
See David Clyde

Still his stuff looks good but any pitcher with control looks good to a team that has never seen him before.

But the Nationals/Expos could be a force the next 5 years

That's an understatement. His stuff looks out of this world.

TheOldRoman
06-09-2010, 09:21 AM
So Jab, was this enough?No, and that is absolutely ridiculous. Strasburg is not one of the top five pitchers in the game today. Nobody said he wasn't talented, but he just is not one of the top 5 pitchers in baseball right now. He might be at the end of the year, but not now. Having great stuff doesn't make you a top pitcher. Having one single incredible game doesn't make you a top pitcher. I am not saying Strasburg will fail; I hope he succeeds. But declaring him a superstar at the MLB level after one game is just as ridiculous as doing so before he's ever thrown an MLB pitch.

munchman33
06-09-2010, 09:54 AM
No, and that is absolutely ridiculous. Strasburg is not one of the top five pitchers in the game today. Nobody said he wasn't talented, but he just is not one of the top 5 pitchers in baseball right now. He might be at the end of the year, but not now. Having great stuff doesn't make you a top pitcher. Having one single incredible game doesn't make you a top pitcher. I am not saying Strasburg will fail; I hope he succeeds. But declaring him a superstar at the MLB level after one game is just as ridiculous as doing so before he's ever thrown an MLB pitch.

Using track record to determine best 5 seems rather obtuse. Strasburg's age is not his fault, and it doesn't make him any less good than 99% of the league.

TheOldRoman
06-09-2010, 10:17 AM
Using track record to determine best 5 seems rather obtuse. Strasburg's age is not his fault, and it doesn't make him any less good than 99% of the league.Track record has to be used here becase he hasn't shown he can get major leaguers out. There is a big difference between the majors and minors. Though the stuff isn't usually as good as his, lots of guys come to the majors with "can't miss" stuff. Not all of them become All-Stars. He might become a hall of famer, he might flame out, he might become a decent third starter or anything in between. There is so much more to pitching than just "stuff". I don't know his mental makeup, how he deals with adversity, how he will react the first time he gets pounded, etc. Last night was great, but I also got the impression from his work in the minors that he would be a pitcher who walked way too many batters. We will see. You absolutely can't say he is one of the best pitchers in baseball before he has shown he can do it at the MLB level. Keep in mind that kids, especially pitchers, often struggle starting out and usually take a few seasons to hit their stride. So, as talented as he is, if he finishes the year with an ERA or 4.8, which is more than respectable for a rookie, would he still be one of the best pitchers in baseball?

munchman33
06-09-2010, 10:33 AM
Track record has to be used here becase he hasn't shown he can get major leaguers out. There is a big difference between the majors and minors. Though the stuff isn't usually as good as his, lots of guys come to the majors with "can't miss" stuff. Not all of them become All-Stars. He might become a hall of famer, he might flame out, he might become a decent third starter or anything in between. There is so much more to pitching than just "stuff". I don't know his mental makeup, how he deals with adversity, how he will react the first time he gets pounded, etc. Last night was great, but I also got the impression from his work in the minors that he would be a pitcher who walked way too many batters. We will see. You absolutely can't say he is one of the best pitchers in baseball before he has shown he can do it at the MLB level. Keep in mind that kids, especially pitchers, often struggle starting out and usually take a few seasons to hit their stride. So, as talented as he is, if he finishes the year with an ERA or 4.8, which is more than respectable for a rookie, would he still be one of the best pitchers in baseball?


Looking at track records within one frame of baseball is just as foolish as just looking at "stuff" only. Strasburg's got a track record and stuff, and both of those are of the once in a generation type.

PatK
06-09-2010, 10:33 AM
Even worse that they hype over this kid is the hate

TheOldRoman
06-09-2010, 10:56 AM
Looking at track records within one frame of baseball is just as foolish as just looking at "stuff" only. Strasburg's got a track record and stuff, and both of those are of the once in a generation type.No, he doesn't have a track record of getting out major leaguers. He hasn't shown he can consistently get out major league hitters. Once he does that, he can be in the coversation.

Even worse that they hype over this kid is the hateWho is hating on him?

PatK
06-09-2010, 11:10 AM
Who is hating on him?

I see it on numerous sites. I don't get it.

doublem23
06-09-2010, 11:44 AM
No, he doesn't have a track record of getting out major leaguers. He hasn't shown he can consistently get out major league hitters. Once he does that, he can be in the coversation.

You can still talk about him in terms of "stuff," though.

Look at this. It's incredible:

http://www.brooksbaseball.net/pfxVB/pfx.php?month=6&day=8&year=2010&game=gid_2010_06_08_pitmlb_wasmlb_1%2F&pitchSel=544931&prevGame=gid_2010_06_08_pitmlb_wasmlb_1%2F&prevDate=68

Nearly 20 MPH difference over his pitches, the movement on his breaking stuff, the swinging strikes scattered all over the place.

This kid is insane.

doublem23
06-09-2010, 11:47 AM
Strasburg's already got a burger named in his homage. I DON'T SEE A TIM LINCECUMBURGER.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2010/06/strasburger_mania_hits_dc.html

TheOldRoman
06-09-2010, 12:10 PM
You can still talk about him in terms of "stuff," though.

Look at this. It's incredible:

http://www.brooksbaseball.net/pfxVB/pfx.php?month=6&day=8&year=2010&game=gid_2010_06_08_pitmlb_wasmlb_1%2F&pitchSel=544931&prevGame=gid_2010_06_08_pitmlb_wasmlb_1%2F&prevDate=68

Nearly 20 MPH difference over his pitches, the movement on his breaking stuff, the swinging strikes scattered all over the place.

This kid is insane.I agree, and I hope he stays healthy to fulfill the promise he has.

Bob Roarman
06-09-2010, 01:20 PM
Strasburg is earning a lot of that hype, though. He hasn't blinked yet as a professional, he was great in Spring Training, great in the minors, and great in his debut. There's not much more you can ask of a rookie, especially a former #1 overall pick.

I'm not going to debate hype. It's the media's job, that's what they do. How one earns it or whatever, I don't really care. Again, I'm not wishing him to do bad, I hope, for the sake of parity rather than anything else, that he does become one of the best pitchers in the league for years and years to come for the Nats.

But saying that, you have to keep it in perspective. We should know this by now. Strasburg will probably dominate his next start and it wouldn't surprise me if he did the rest of the season more or less. It's how he adjusts to the league adjusting to him is what will show just how good he can become. Like I said, the real litmus test will probably be next year, or maybe later this season, it just all depends. It's the same for every player coming up. For every "phenom", no matter the position, coming up from the minors. We're seeing it first hand with Beckham.

doublem23
06-09-2010, 01:28 PM
I'm not going to debate hype. It's the media's job, that's what they do. How one earns it or whatever, I don't really care. Again, I'm not wishing him to do bad, I hope, for the sake of parity rather than anything else, that he does become one of the best pitchers in the league for years and years to come for the Nats.

But saying that, you have to keep it in perspective. We should know this by now. Strasburg will probably dominate his next start and it wouldn't surprise me if he did the rest of the season more or less. It's how he adjusts to the league adjusting to him is what will show just how good he can become. Like I said, the real litmus test will probably be next year, or maybe later this season, it just all depends. It's the same for every player coming up. For every "phenom", no matter the position, coming up from the minors. We're seeing it first hand with Beckham.

True, although Beckham's not nearly as polished as Strasburg.

soltrain21
06-09-2010, 01:56 PM
I'm not going to debate hype. It's the media's job, that's what they do. How one earns it or whatever, I don't really care. Again, I'm not wishing him to do bad, I hope, for the sake of parity rather than anything else, that he does become one of the best pitchers in the league for years and years to come for the Nats.

But saying that, you have to keep it in perspective. We should know this by now. Strasburg will probably dominate his next start and it wouldn't surprise me if he did the rest of the season more or less. It's how he adjusts to the league adjusting to him is what will show just how good he can become. Like I said, the real litmus test will probably be next year, or maybe later this season, it just all depends. It's the same for every player coming up. For every "phenom", no matter the position, coming up from the minors. We're seeing it first hand with Beckham.

Beckham is a nice prospect, sure - but Strausberg is the type of guy that very rarely comes around.

NDSox12
06-09-2010, 02:10 PM
Last night was great, but I also got the impression from his work in the minors that he would be a pitcher who walked way too many batters. We will see.

I'm not sure how you got that impression. He only walked 13 batters in 11 minor league starts. He had a ridiculous 5.0 K/BB ratio.

TheOldRoman
06-09-2010, 02:24 PM
I'm not sure how you got that impression. He only walked 13 batters in 11 minor league starts. He had a ridiculous 5.0 K/BB ratio.I stand corrected. I remember hearing about him only going 5 innings his first few starts this season, so I figured he was throwing too many pitches and walking people.

Bob Roarman
06-09-2010, 02:24 PM
Beckham is a nice prospect, sure - but Strausberg is the type of guy that very rarely comes around.

I'm just using Beckham as a first hand example of what I'm talking about, not comparing him to Strasburg. Once the rest of the league knows what Strasburg throws, how he pitches at this level and they still can't get to him, that's when we'll know for sure. Meanwhile this will be a story that will run wild, and they might as well get as much as they can from it now. There's always that chance that he isn't able to re-adjust and burns out slowly bouncing from team to team.

SephClone89
06-09-2010, 02:47 PM
I stand corrected. I remember hearing about him only going 5 innings his first few starts this season, so I figured he was throwing too many pitches and walking people.

I'm not a prospect expert or a Strasburg expert, but I think his low IP was due to an imposed limitation on pitches. (which we are going to see all season)

Marqhead
06-09-2010, 02:48 PM
I stand corrected. I remember hearing about him only going 5 innings his first few starts this season, so I figured he was throwing too many pitches and walking people.

The Nats just kept him on a strict pitch count/work load. He got pulled from a couple no-hitters.

Boondock Saint
06-09-2010, 03:00 PM
Using track record to determine best 5 seems rather obtuse. Strasburg's age is not his fault, and it doesn't make him any less good than 99% of the league.

This is true. I don't think there's any doubt that Ubaldo Jimenez is the best pitcher in baseball right now, and the fact that he hasn't been this good before is not relevant to that fact. Same thing applies for Strasburg.

mmmmmbeeer
06-09-2010, 03:03 PM
I'm not going to debate hype. It's the media's job, that's what they do. How one earns it or whatever, I don't really care. Again, I'm not wishing him to do bad, I hope, for the sake of parity rather than anything else, that he does become one of the best pitchers in the league for years and years to come for the Nats.

But saying that, you have to keep it in perspective. We should know this by now. Strasburg will probably dominate his next start and it wouldn't surprise me if he did the rest of the season more or less. It's how he adjusts to the league adjusting to him is what will show just how good he can become. Like I said, the real litmus test will probably be next year, or maybe later this season, it just all depends. It's the same for every player coming up. For every "phenom", no matter the position, coming up from the minors. We're seeing it first hand with Beckham.

I think you're trying entirely too hard to compare Strasburg to other "phenoms" that have come up. You can't do that...this kid is at a level all his own. He quite literally has absolutely NOTHING that looks vulnerable. He's got video game stuff with the composure of a vet. I'm not sure how the league will "adjust" to stuff that they've never seen before in any of their careers?

TheOldRoman
06-09-2010, 03:41 PM
This is true. I don't think there's any doubt that Ubaldo Jimenez is the best pitcher in baseball right now, and the fact that he hasn't been this good before is not relevant to that fact. Same thing applies for Strasburg.Was Jimenez the best pitcher in baseball last year? No. Was he the best pitcher in baseball when teams broke camp in March? No. What made him the best pitcher in baseball? Retiring major league batters consistently.

Iwritecode
06-09-2010, 03:50 PM
He quite literally has absolutely NOTHING that looks vulnerable.

Some are questioning his "perfect" mechanics. (http://www.chrisoleary.com/projects/baseball/pitching/ProfessionalPitcherAnalyses/StephenStrasburg.html)

Boondock Saint
06-09-2010, 04:57 PM
Was Jimenez the best pitcher in baseball last year? No. Was he the best pitcher in baseball when teams broke camp in March? No. What made him the best pitcher in baseball? Retiring major league batters consistently.

The point was that he has no track record. Neither did Jimenez. Was he not the best pitcher until he had retired a certain number of batters? He's been this good all season.

october23sp
06-09-2010, 05:02 PM
Some are questioning his "perfect" mechanics. (http://www.chrisoleary.com/projects/baseball/pitching/ProfessionalPitcherAnalyses/StephenStrasburg.html)

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Bob Roarman
06-09-2010, 05:33 PM
I think you're trying entirely too hard to compare Strasburg to other "phenoms" that have come up. You can't do that...this kid is at a level all his own. He quite literally has absolutely NOTHING that looks vulnerable. He's got video game stuff with the composure of a vet. I'm not sure how the league will "adjust" to stuff that they've never seen before in any of their careers?

See this is what I'm talking about. Wait a little while. That's all I'm saying. And yes, the league "adjusts". I'm not sure why you put that word in quotation marks, it exists. It happens to every rookie worth a damn. There's always that guy "no one has seen before" and then they make a good impression and everyone's going crazy and *poof* a season or two goes by and you wonder what happened to what's his face? As usual, time will tell.

A. Cavatica
06-09-2010, 05:58 PM
The Nats just kept him on a strict pitch count/work load. He got pulled from a couple no-hitters.

We need a poll:


When will Strasburg get his first no-hitter?

Next start ( )
Third start, against the Sox ( )
Churros ( )

TDog
06-09-2010, 07:46 PM
We need a poll:


When will Strasburg get his first no-hitter?

Next start ( )
Third start, against the Sox ( )
Churros ( )


You left out the the-day-after-Mark-Prior-pitches-his option.

WizardsofOzzie
06-11-2010, 12:05 PM
Well that didn't take long. Cooperstown wants the game ball and hat worn by Strasburg during his first MLB game.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5273257

HomeFish
06-12-2010, 06:02 AM
I'm moving to Washington soon and plan to attend Nationals games. How long before I get banned from a Nationals forum for suggesting that Strasburg has poor mechanics and will get injured?

TomC727
06-12-2010, 11:14 AM
I just got tickets for Saturday's game. I am totally excited. I'll be there in my Ozzie Guillen jersey.

NDSox12
06-12-2010, 12:08 PM
I just got tickets for Saturday's game. I am totally excited. I'll be there in my Ozzie Guillen jersey.

I'm only pointing this out because you posted it in the Strasburg thread, but FYI, Strasburg is probably going to pitch on Friday rather than Saturday. The Nats are planning on pitching him every fifth day rather than every fifth game until the All-Star break.

HawkDJ
06-12-2010, 12:55 PM
I'm only pointing this out because you posted it in the Strasburg thread, but FYI, Strasburg is probably going to pitch on Friday rather than Saturday. The Nats are planning on pitching him every fifth day rather than every fifth game until the All-Star break.

I'm going on Friday!

soxfanreggie
06-12-2010, 02:01 PM
I think you're trying entirely too hard to compare Strasburg to other "phenoms" that have come up. You can't do that...this kid is at a level all his own. He quite literally has absolutely NOTHING that looks vulnerable. He's got video game stuff with the composure of a vet. I'm not sure how the league will "adjust" to stuff that they've never seen before in any of their careers?

He's also used to the media watching his every move. Some players who come up to the big show probably won't be able to handle the scrutiny as well as he can.

TomC727
06-12-2010, 02:18 PM
I'm only pointing this out because you posted it in the Strasburg thread, but FYI, Strasburg is probably going to pitch on Friday rather than Saturday. The Nats are planning on pitching him every fifth day rather than every fifth game until the All-Star break.

:angry:

Marqhead
06-13-2010, 01:41 PM
Another good outing going today.

5 IP 1H 1R 8K

NDSox12
06-13-2010, 02:07 PM
Another good outing going today.

5 IP 1H 1R 8K

He looks more like a rookie today though. He seemed to let some problems with the landing area on the mound get to him and totally lost command in the 6th.

DuckSnort
06-13-2010, 02:09 PM
That mound really got in his head it looked.

102605
06-13-2010, 02:16 PM
He struggled a bit and loaded the bases with just 1 out but Drew Storen came in and got him off the hook.

LoveYourSuit
06-13-2010, 03:33 PM
Today's outing reminded more of Kerry Wood than it did Nolan Ryan.

He was all over the place on his fastball.

I was not impressed.


I think the Sox hitters can hit a good fastball so we will see.

hawkjt
06-13-2010, 03:49 PM
He has given up two homers in two outings...so maybe PK or Alex or Andruw or Kotsay can lite him up after a walk or two. MB will have to bring his smoke and mirrors to trick'em,which he is good at when it is an NL team that has not seen him.

TheVulture
06-13-2010, 03:53 PM
Today's outing reminded more of Kerry Wood than it did Nolan Ryan.

He was all over the place on his fastball.

I was not impressed.


I think the Sox hitters can hit a good fastball so we will see.

You mean Nolan Ryan, the guy who twice walked 200 batters in a single season?

rookie
06-14-2010, 10:33 AM
I'm going on Friday!

So am I! Wonder how many other Sox fans there will be?

Huisj
06-14-2010, 11:39 AM
I'm only pointing this out because you posted it in the Strasburg thread, but FYI, Strasburg is probably going to pitch on Friday rather than Saturday. The Nats are planning on pitching him every fifth day rather than every fifth game until the All-Star break.

I find this kind of hilarious after Fox picked up the Saturday game a few weeks back because they were projecting him pitching.