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DirtySox
06-07-2010, 01:58 AM
-Tonight at 7 pm ET, Round 1 and the Supplemental Round of the first-year player draft takes place. It will be televised on MLB Network and streamed live at MLB.com

-Rounds 2 through 30 will take place Tuesday, June 7th at Noon ET with live programming on MLB.com

-Rounds 31 through 50 will commence Wednesday, June 8th at Noon ET, likely followed on the draft tracker portion of MLB.com

*The White Sox have draft picks 13, 63, 95, and 114, then the 13th pick of each following round.

Some basic and useful information information about players in this year's draft can be found in MLB.com's Draft Reports (http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?topic_id=8080130).

Baseball America also has a list of its top 200 draft prospects (http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/draft-preview/2010/2610039.html) along with each player's stats for this year.


Draft Order:


First Round:

Day 1 Results:

Round 1:

1 Washington Nationals - Bryce Harper, C
2 Pittsburgh Pirates - Jameson Taillon, RHP
3 Baltimore Orioles - Manny Machado, SS
4 Kansas City Royals - Christian Colon, SS
5 Cleveland Indians - Drew Pomeranz, LHP
6 Arizona Diamondbacks - Barrett Loux, RHP
7 New York Mets - Matt Harvey, RHP
8 Houston Astros - Delino DeShields Jr., 2B
9 San Diego Padres - Karsten Whitson, RHP
10 Oakland Athletics - Michael Choice, OF
11 Toronto Blue Jays - Deck McGuire, RHP
12 Cincinnati Reds - Yasmani Grandal, C
13 Chicago White Sox - Chris Sale, LHP
14 Milwaukee Brewers - Dylan Covey, RHP
15 Texas Rangers - Jake Skole, OF
16 Chicago Cubs - Hayden Simpson, RHP
17 Tampa Bay Rays - Josh Sale, OF
18 Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim - Kaleb Cowart, 3B
19 Houston Astros - Mike Foltynewick, RHP
20 Boston Red Sox - Kolbrin Vitek, 2B
21 Minnesota Twins - Alex Wimmers, RHP
22 Texas Rangers - Kellin Deglan, C
23 Florida Marlins - Christian Yelich, OF
24 San Francisco Giants - Gary Brown, OF
25 St. Louis Cardinals - Zack Cox, 3B
26 Colorado Rockies - Kyle Parker, OF
27 Philadelphia Phillies - Jesse Biddle, LHP
28 Los Angeles Dodgers - Zach Lee, RHP
29 Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim - Cam Bedrosian, RHP
30 Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim - Chevy Clarke, OF
31 Tampa Bay Rays - Justin O'Conner, C
32 New York Yankees - Cito Culver, SS


Supplemental First-Round:

33 Houston Astros - Michael Kvasnicka, 3B
34 Toronto Blue Jays - Aaron Sanchez, RHP
35 Atlanta Braves - Matthew Lipka, SS
36 Boston Red Sox - Bryce Brentz, OF
37 Los Angeles Angels - Taylor Lindsey, SS
38 Toronto Blue Jays - Noah Syndergaard, RHP
39 Boston Red Sox - Anthony Ranuado, RHP
40 Los Angeles Angels - Ryan Bolden, OF
41 Toronto Blue Jays - Asher Wojciechowski, RHP
42 Tampa Bay Rays - Drew Vettleson, OF
43 Seattle Mariners - Taijuan Walker, RHP
44 Detroit Tigers - Nick Castellanos, 3B
45 Texas Rangers - Luke Jackson, RHP
46 St. Louis Cardinals - Seth Blair, RHP
47 Colorado Rockies - Peter Tago, RHP
48 Detroit Tigers - Chance Ruffin, RHP
49 Texas Rangers - Mike Olt, 3B
50 St. Louis Cardinals - Tyrell Jenkins, RHP
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2010 White Sox Draft Results



1. Chris Sale LHP Fla. Gulf Coast
2. Jacob Petricka RHP Indiana State
3. Addison Reed RHP San Diego St.
3s. Thomas Royse RHP Louisville
4. Matthew Grimes RHP Mill Creek, Ga.
5. Andrew Wilkins 1B Arkansas
6. Rangel Ravelo 3B Hialeah, Fla.
7. Tyler Saladino SS Oral Roberts
8. Josef Terry 2B Cerritos Coll.
9. Kevin Moran RHP Boston Coll.
10. Ross Wilson 2B Alabama
11. James McDonald SS Chaparral, Az.
12. Crayton Lee SS Morehead St.
13. Ethan Icard RHP Wilkes CC
14. Michael Blanke C U. of Tampa
15. Sean O'Connell C Chatsworth, Cal.
16. Edward McCray RHP Tennessee
17. Michael Schwartz 1B U. of Tampa
18. Randall Thorpe LF San Jacinto N.
19. Douglas Murray RHP San Francisco
20. Jose Ramos C W. Okla. St.
21. Tyler Jones RHP Madison Coll
22. Ozney Guillen RF Opa Locka, Fla.
23. Austin Evans RHP U. of Tampa
24. Jordan Keegan OF Col. of S. Nev.
25. Ethan Wilson SS Indiana
26. Kevin Rath LHP CS Fullerton
27. Pete Gehle LHP Azuza Pacific
28. Thomas Windle LHP Osseo, Minn.
29. Michael Earley OF Indiana
30. Kylin Turnbull LHP Santa Barb. CC
31. Robert Young LHP Dartmouth
32. Jarrett Casey LHP Nrthrn Kentucky
33. Jamaal Hollis RHP Miami (Ohio)
34. Dusty Harvard CF Oklahoma St.
35. John Spatola OF Boston College.
36. Benjamin Griset LHP Gustine, Calif.
37. Christopher Lee LHP Tampa, Fla.
38. Bradley Salgado SS Temecula, Calif.
39. Levi Schlick LHP Barton County CC
40. Conrad Gregor RF Carmel, Ind.
41. Samuel Phippen RHP UC Santa Barbara
42. Brett Bruening RHP Texas Tech
43. Lucas Irvine RHP Northwestern St.
44. Matthew Chavez RHP San Francisco
45. Ronald Cotton OF Florence, Ky.
46. Ronzelle Fort LHP Chicago
47. Matt Reida 2B Russiaville, Ind.
48. Audry Santana 2B Cape Coral, Fla.
49. Pat Schatz RHP Iowa
50. David Vazquez 2B Miami Lakes, Fla.

GAsoxfan
06-07-2010, 08:34 AM
How is the order of the compensation round determined?

102605
06-07-2010, 08:35 AM
Sweet! I love this day but don't want to wait until prime time.

I personally want to hear the future White Sox LF or RF "Bryce Brentz" called out but I know I am a minority.

:bandance:

cws05champ
06-07-2010, 09:45 AM
Sweet! I love this day but don't want to wait until prime time.

I personally want to hear the future White Sox LF or RF "Bryce Brentz" called out but I know I am a minority.

:bandance:
It couldn't be that you have him in the Dynasty league is it? :cool:

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 09:46 AM
How is the order of the compensation round determined?

Determined by Elias Ranking.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 09:53 AM
As of right now, the smart money would be on the Sox selecting a signable college pitcher. Shocking, no?

I'd bet it will be one of the following:

-Asher Wojciechowski
-Brandon Workman
-Barret Loux
-Alex Wimmers

102605
06-07-2010, 09:55 AM
It couldn't be that you have him in the Dynasty league is it? :cool:

Hey I would take Manny Machado for the Sox too!

Thats just a bonus for me. The Dynasty league did force me to do an early dive into this draft but I've been a fan of Brentz. I had him scouted out after his monster year in 2009.

EMachine10
06-07-2010, 09:59 AM
I think getting McGuire would be nice if he's still available, but after that I would probably prefer Wimmers or Workman. In my opinion, Asher W projects as a reliever.

102605
06-07-2010, 09:59 AM
As of right now, the smart money would be on the Sox selecting a signable college pitcher. Shocking, no?


[vomit smiley]

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 10:06 AM
I think getting McGuire would be nice if he's still available, but after that I would probably prefer Wimmers or Workman. In my opinion, Asher W projects as a reliever.

Many scouts think the same about Asher, but they love his frame and the fastball/slider. If he develops his changeup, he could be a 2 or 3 starter.

I'm not the biggest fan of Workman. His mechanics and delivery are all over the place and there are repeatability issues. He does have a very nice curveball though. I don't think his upside is considerably higher than Wimmers, who I think is underrated. Wimmers has two secondary pitches described as plus, and a fastball that sits in the 90-93 range with good movement.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 10:09 AM
In Law's final mock, Wojo is the pick. Grandal is being considered if available, and there is limited interest in McGuire. (Thanks Jeff)

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 10:14 AM
Those interested in the draft probably know this already, but the first 4 picks are very close to being sure things.

1. WAS - Bryce Harper
2. PIT - Jameson Taillon
3. BAL - Manny Machado
4. KC - Yasmani Grandal


Washington's pick is obvious. Pit seemingly has been flip flopping between Machado and Taillon for a while. Whoever they don't pick is assuredly going to be selected by the Orioles. The Royals supposedly have a pre-draft deal with Grandal.

Everything after the first 4 is in flux. I think there will be some surprises tonight.

doublem23
06-07-2010, 10:14 AM
Banner headline at whitesox.com regarding the Draft:

"White Sox never ones to play it safe early"

:rolling:

I guess they think nobody's been paying attention.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 10:17 AM
Banner headline at whitesox.com regarding the Draft:

"White Sox never ones to play it safe early"

:rolling:

I guess they think nobody's been paying attention.


Ugh, yes. I cringed when I read that yesterday.

EMachine10
06-07-2010, 10:18 AM
Many scouts think the same about Asher, but they love his frame and the fastball/slider. If he develops his changeup, he could be a 2 or 3 starter.

I'm not the biggest fan of Workman. His mechanics and delivery are all over the place and there are repeatability issues. He does have a very nice curveball though. I don't think his upside is considerably higher than Wimmers, who I think is underrated. Wimmers has two secondary pitches described as plus, and a fastball that sits in the 90-93 range with good movement.
Right on with Wimmers. He's been my favorite so far this year.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 10:44 AM
Callis has a new mock up.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/mock-draft/2010/2610137.html

I will be very unhappy if Loux is taken. Yuck.

russ99
06-07-2010, 10:45 AM
We definitely need to stock up on pitchers, but I don't get why Merkin has to telegraph something like that to the other teams...

Maybe we won't take a college pitcher.

canOcorn
06-07-2010, 10:55 AM
Callis has a new mock up.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/mock-draft/2010/2610137.html

I will be very unhappy if Loux is taken. Yuck.

Meh. I don't really like any of the 4 pitchers you listed earlier, but Loux has the highest ceiling (probably lowest floor too).

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 10:57 AM
The hell?

http://a3.twimg.com/profile_images/664446153/profilepic_normal.jpg (http://twitter.com/FrankiePiliere) FrankiePiliere (http://twitter.com/FrankiePiliere)
Draft Buzz: Indians jumping in late trying to top Royals' deal with Grandal http://bit.ly/9wih9z 4 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/FrankiePiliere/status/15638220534) via web

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 11:07 AM
Here is a list of players with Boras as an agent for this year's draft. IE the White Sox are very unlikely to select the following players:



Kyle Blair (http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?topic_id=8080130&content_id=7189187), college RHP
Seth Blair (http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?topic_id=8080130&content_id=7177791), college RHP
Gary Brown (http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?topic_id=8080130&content_id=7189183), college OF
Christian Colon (http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?topic_id=8080130&content_id=7189151), college SS
Bryce Harper (http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?topic_id=8080130&content_id=7222475), junior college C
Matt Harvey (http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?topic_id=8080130&content_id=7604027), college RHP
Jacoby Jones (http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?topic_id=8080130&content_id=7461547), high school SS
Manny Machado (http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?topic_id=8080130&content_id=7243401), high school SS
James Paxton, independent league LHP
Greg Peavey, college RHP
Brian Ragira (http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?topic_id=8080130&content_id=7733641), high school OF
Anthony Ranaudo (http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?topic_id=8080130&content_id=8003787), college RHP
LeVon Washington (http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?topic_id=8080130&content_id=7733643), junior college OF

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 11:38 AM
http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/19750912/kgotto_normal.jpg (http://twitter.com/Kevin_Goldstein) Kevin_Goldstein (http://twitter.com/Kevin_Goldstein)
In the 20s. RT @zacdefrancesca (http://twitter.com/zacdefrancesca): @Kevin_Goldstein (http://twitter.com/Kevin_Goldstein) as a MTSU fan where do you see Bryce Brentz goin? 8 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/Kevin_Goldstein/status/15640555321) via TweetCaster (http://tinyurl.com/tweetcaster)

___________

I expect this as well. I think he goes to the Giants. Most people see him in the 20's when ranking players in this year's draft.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 12:22 PM
[Comment From Alan: ]
Any new White Sox buzz? Please tell me Barret Loux won't be the pick.

Frankie Piliere:
I continue to hear Brentz. Wojciechowski and Kvasnicka also are options.
http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2010/06/07/2010-mlb-draft-chat-first-round/?sms_ss=twitter

GAsoxfan
06-07-2010, 12:24 PM
Determined by Elias Ranking.

So does that mean Elias had Valverde as the highest ranked FA (relative to his position), Scutaro 2nd...?

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 12:27 PM
So does that mean Elias had Valverde as the highest ranked FA (relative to his position), Scutaro 2nd...?

Essentially. I'm not entirely sure how things are sorted, but that is the gist of it. Maybe someone else can weigh in. Elias rankings are rather convoluted.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 12:29 PM
http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/19750912/kgotto_normal.jpg (http://twitter.com/Kevin_Goldstein) Kevin_Goldstein (http://twitter.com/Kevin_Goldstein)
I've heard nothing but college arms. RT @mrausch86 (http://twitter.com/mrausch86): @Kevin_Goldstein (http://twitter.com/Kevin_Goldstein) who do you see the ChiSox drafting? I have seen Brentz.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 12:36 PM
Piliere's Final Mock:

http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2010/06/07/mlb-mock-draft-4-0-final-countdown/?sms_ss=twitter

EMachine10
06-07-2010, 12:59 PM
The more I think about it, the more I may want the Sox to seriously consider taking Bentz. I like Wimmers and McGuire, but hopefully the Sox can nab a few pitchers in the early rounds like they did last year. Brentz really does intrigue me.

102605
06-07-2010, 01:02 PM
Piliere's Final Mock:

http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2010/06/07/mlb-mock-draft-4-0-final-countdown/?sms_ss=twitter

I feel like these guys are just recycling each others information at this point.

Brentz could be one of the quicker guys in this draft to make it up to the majors if he end up playing to his potential. Thats another reason I would love that pick. The Sox need offense!

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 01:04 PM
The more I think about it, the more I may want the Sox to seriously consider taking Bentz. I like Wimmers and McGuire, but hopefully the Sox can nab a few pitchers in the early rounds like they did last year. Brentz really does intrigue me.

I don't buy the bat potential or the plate discipline. I think his ceiling is as a bit above average corner OF.

I think the situation at 13 sucks. Laumann described the position as no-man's land. Since the Sox limit themselves primarily to cheap college pitchers and college position players, options are limited. A bunch of middle of the rotation starter types if things pan out, or a few underwhelming college bats.

I will be pretty indifferent if any of the college pitchers or Brentz are picked. This draft class is very underwhelming.

soltrain21
06-07-2010, 01:13 PM
Banner headline at whitesox.com regarding the Draft:

"White Sox never ones to play it safe early"

:rolling:

I guess they think nobody's been paying attention.

Well, they never play it safe in terms of having their first pick actually be good.

EMachine10
06-07-2010, 01:14 PM
I don't buy the bat potential or the plate discipline. I think his ceiling is as a bit above average corner OF.

I think the situation at 13 sucks. Laumann described the position as no-man's land. Since the Sox limit themselves primarily to cheap college pitchers and college position players, options are limited. A bunch of middle of the rotation starter types if things pan out, or a few underwhelming college bats.

I will be pretty indifferent if any of the college pitchers or Brentz are picked. This draft class is very underwhelming.
Right, the middle of the draft, and even late in the round for that matter, is so tough. Next year's draft will be very important for us (barring some remarkable turnaround). Like the Beckham draft, picking in the top 10 gives you far and away better choices than the middle of the pack.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 01:51 PM
Mayos' Final Mock:

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100607&content_id=10910172&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

More Wojo.

Pablo_Honey
06-07-2010, 02:26 PM
Mayos' Final Mock:

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100607&content_id=10910172&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

More Wojo.
We could do better with that 13th pick but I'd be happier with Wojo than Workman or Loux. Wimmers is growing on me but I'd still prefer the more aggressive type in Wojo.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 02:32 PM
We could do better with that 13th pick but I'd be happier with Wojo than Workman or Loux. Wimmers is growing on me but I'd still prefer the more aggressive type in Wojo.

I don't mind Wojo to be honest. Good fastball, power slider. He could be a nice starter if he develops his change, or he could be a good reliever/setup man/closer. He kind of fits the mold of the Poreda pick. Hopefully with better results though.

He isn't an ultra sexy pick, but there aren't many of those in this draft class.

Pablo_Honey
06-07-2010, 02:54 PM
I don't mind Wojo to be honest. Good fastball, power slider. He could be a nice starter if he develops his change, or he could be a good reliever/setup man/closer. He kind of fits the mold of the Poreda pick. Hopefully with better results though.

He isn't an ultra sexy pick, but there aren't many of those in this draft class.
Wojo's mechanics worries me a bit. He starts moving his lower half a bit slowly, he has a 'inverted W' and he recoils at the end. Other than that, yeah, I agree that he is a decent pick considering the other options that have come up so far. I guess I'm all caught up in the Castellanos bandwagon even though there is virtually zero chance Sox pick him.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 02:56 PM
KG's last mock:

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=11106

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 03:18 PM
More crazy rumors going around:

Frankie Piliere:
UPDATE: Word is that the DBacks would indeed take Barrett Loux over Pomeranz, but not over Chris Sale

Frankie Piliere:
UPDATE: Don't rule out a shock at #4 if Grandal falls through. How about this for shock? Bryce Brentz may be an option. Likely? No, but he's a name being tossed about.

We could see a crazy first round tonight.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 03:20 PM
http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/19750912/kgotto_normal.jpg (http://twitter.com/Kevin_Goldstein) Kevin_Goldstein (http://twitter.com/Kevin_Goldstein)
True RT @n_schaef (http://twitter.com/n_schaef): @kevin_goldstein (http://twitter.com/kevin_goldstein) True or False: Asher W. has a higher ceiling than college arms like McGuire, Loux etc. due to velocity.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 04:06 PM
Pomz sliding:

http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/19750912/kgotto_normal.jpg (http://twitter.com/Kevin_Goldstein) Kevin_Goldstein (http://twitter.com/Kevin_Goldstein)
And a hell, yes to that. RT @keithlaw (http://twitter.com/keithlaw): Text from scouting director: "You hearing anything about Pomeranz sliding?" Yes, in fact.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 04:08 PM
http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/19750912/kgotto_normal.jpg (http://twitter.com/Kevin_Goldstein) Kevin_Goldstein (http://twitter.com/Kevin_Goldstein)
It's getting fun. RT @keithlaw (http://twitter.com/keithlaw): @Kevin_Goldstein (http://twitter.com/Kevin_Goldstein) I'm also hearing from teams having "uh-oh" moments because they didn't discuss him enough. half a minute ago (http://twitter.com/Kevin_Goldstein/status/15656103550) via TweetDeck (http://www.tweetdeck.com/)

http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/19750912/kgotto_normal.jpg (http://twitter.com/Kevin_Goldstein) Kevin_Goldstein (http://twitter.com/Kevin_Goldstein)
Team in teens: "It's a joke, we're ranking 11 f---in' guys in here because we have no idea what's happening in front of us." less than 20 seconds ago (http://twitter.com/Kevin_Goldstein/status/15656422270) via TweetDeck (http://www.tweetdeck.com/)

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 04:12 PM
Frankie Piliere:
UPDATE: Grandal deal is in big trouble with KC. They thought they had a deal and KC doesn't seem too happy about them looking for more now.


(http://twitter.com/Kevin_Goldstein)

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 04:42 PM
Law is hearing Ruffin to the Reds. That would be a shocker.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 05:00 PM
http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/246556180/happy_normal.jpg (http://twitter.com/JonathanMayoB3) JonathanMayoB3 (http://twitter.com/JonathanMayoB3)
Still #mlbdraft (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23mlbdraft) uncertainty at no. 4. Colud be christian colon, could be chris sale. less than 10 seconds ago (http://twitter.com/JonathanMayoB3/status/15658809873) via OpenBeak (http://www.orangatame.com/products/openbeak/)

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 05:19 PM
http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/246556180/happy_normal.jpg (http://twitter.com/JonathanMayoB3) JonathanMayoB3 (http://twitter.com/JonathanMayoB3)
If Grandal is available, White Sox would be interested. Wonder if money would get in way. #mlbdraft (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23mlbdraft) less than 10 seconds ago (http://twitter.com/JonathanMayoB3/status/15659806476) via OpenBeak (http://www.orangatame.com/products/openbeak/)

Yes please!

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 05:43 PM
Frankie Piliere:
UPDATE: Hearing Bryce Brentz could end up in the last 5-6 picks of the first round

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 05:54 PM
Frankie Piliere:
UPDATE: So, what now. A couple sources tell me it may not be Grandal to KC. Then i ask "probably Sale?" The answer is still no. Are we looking at Choice or Asher Wojciechowski? I think it's going to shock us

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 06:02 PM
http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/64868094/applepie_normal.JPG (http://twitter.com/keithlaw) keithlaw (http://twitter.com/keithlaw)
Hearing the Royals may take Christian Colon at 4 instead of Chris Sale or Yasmani Grandal

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 06:03 PM
Time for a bunch of commentators that know very little about the draft prospects, but will rave about every single one nonetheless.

EMachine10
06-07-2010, 06:12 PM
Time for a bunch of commentators that know very little about the draft prospects, but will rave about every single one nonetheless.
Ha, about right.

No surprises, Harper went 1.

Announced as an OF....

...
06-07-2010, 06:12 PM
Time for a bunch of commentators that know very little about the draft prospects, but will rave about every single one nonetheless.

That's because it's their job.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 06:14 PM
Ha, about right.

No surprises, Harper went 1.

Announced as an OF....

Yep. He will get there faster as an OF, and the bat will play anywhere.

102605
06-07-2010, 06:20 PM
Well we finally get to find out. When do you think the White Sox pick will come up? I've got to run out in a bit. I'm guessing somewhere around 7:00 CST?

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 06:22 PM
Now things get interesting.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 06:25 PM
http://a3.twimg.com/profile_images/664446153/profilepic_normal.jpg (http://twitter.com/FrankiePiliere)FrankiePiliere:
#Indians (http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23Indians) expected to take Drew Pomeranz 5th overall. Told I should take it to the bank

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 06:26 PM
Colon indeed. Kind of an overdraft imo.

102605
06-07-2010, 06:27 PM
Grandel maybe for the Sox?

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 06:28 PM
Grandel maybe for the Sox?

He's all over the place on draft boards today. Callis said the Sox won't take him because of his price though. Law and Mayo says they are interested though.

...
06-07-2010, 06:28 PM
Grandel maybe for the Sox?

Will they open the pocketbook?

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 06:29 PM
http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/246556180/happy_normal.jpg (http://twitter.com/JonathanMayoB3) JonathanMayoB3 (http://twitter.com/JonathanMayoB3)
Cleveland will take drew pomeranz no 5, arizona will take barret loux at no 6. #mlbdraft (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23mlbdraft) 1 minute ago (http://twitter.com/JonathanMayoB3/status/15663639885) via OpenBeak (http://www.orangatame.com/products/openbeak/)

________________________

If I'm a D-Backs fan and this happens, I'm not pleased.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 06:33 PM
Chris Sale might be falling out of the top 10. I think the Sox would jump all over him.

KRS1
06-07-2010, 06:33 PM
Wow, Drew has the worst haircut ever. What's that called, the "emo scrub" look?

...
06-07-2010, 06:34 PM
Wow, Drew has the worst haircut ever. What's that called, the "emo scrub" look?

It's called the Gordon Beckham.

http://www.codball.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/gordon-beckham.jpg

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 06:35 PM
http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/64868094/applepie_normal.JPG (http://twitter.com/keithlaw) keithlaw (http://twitter.com/keithlaw)
Hearing Matt Harvey to the Mets at 7 after the D-backs take Loux. less than 20 seconds ago (http://twitter.com/keithlaw/status/15664069044) via web

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 06:38 PM
Overdraft, very signable.

We are lucky he is no longer a Sox option.

KRS1
06-07-2010, 06:39 PM
It's called the Gordon Beckham.

http://www.codball.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/gordon-beckham.jpg

Nah, Gordo's had it pretty balanced all around and long up top, this was short on the sides and one big gigantic flop of straight puffy hair on his forehead.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 06:39 PM
Kevin Goldstein: At six, Arizona goes with Loux at 6. Just . . . shocked. No idea how that guy is the sixth best talent. No clue at all. Low 90s w/ command, but not killer stuff and tons of college arms are better. Bad pick there folks. I could look smart for putting Harvey @ 7.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 06:42 PM
Wow. Houston wants Delino Jr at 8? Yikes.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 06:43 PM
Frankie Piliere:
Chris Sale not in the mix for the Padres, there or not I'm told

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 06:46 PM
nschaef (CT): As a White Sox (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/team_audit.php?team=CHA) fan I can't express how relieved I am that the Diamondbacks (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/team_audit.php?team=ARI) drafted Loux.

Kevin Goldstein: Smart White Sox (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/team_audit.php?team=CHA) fan.


This sentiment is all over it seems.

Coops4Aces
06-07-2010, 06:47 PM
I sounds like the Sox may get lucky with a few overdrafts?

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 06:47 PM
Piliere clarifies that Josh Sale coming at 8, not Delino.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 06:48 PM
Frankie wrong.

Holy overdraft.

Coops4Aces
06-07-2010, 06:49 PM
Piliere clarifies that Josh Sale coming at 8, not Delino.

Or not :tongue:

102605
06-07-2010, 06:49 PM
Nice. I hope the Padres take a bat here.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 06:50 PM
People guessing Whitson than O'Connor next.

There are going to be some interesting options for the Sox. Too bad they will likely bypass them because of monetary concerns.

Ditka v. God
06-07-2010, 06:53 PM
The Sox need to nut up here and draft Grandal or one of the Sales. If you don't sign them, we get another top 15 pick in next year's stronger draft. That Delino DeShields pick was horrible!

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 06:53 PM
Whitson, I like. Good work.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 06:55 PM
The Sox need to nut up here and draft Grandal or one of the Sales. If you don't sign them, we get another top 15 pick in next year's stronger draft. That Delino DeShields pick was horrible!

Agreed 100%.

EMachine10
06-07-2010, 06:59 PM
Choice to Oakland.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 06:59 PM
Choice is awesome. Love this pick.

Ditka v. God
06-07-2010, 07:02 PM
There are going to be some pretty good college 3B available in the later rounds. Despite the overall weakness of this draft, there are some talented 3B prospects coming out of college this year. Cox, Segedin, Thompson, Olt, Leonard, etc. I wouldn't mind the Sox grabbing one in the 4-10 rounds, we need some power in that position.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 07:03 PM
Some great names are going to be available.

Both Sales, Grandal, maybe McGuire.

EMachine10
06-07-2010, 07:04 PM
McGuire to Toronto

Pablo_Honey
06-07-2010, 07:05 PM
McGuire gone. That's one less uninspiring option we have to worry about.

Coops4Aces
06-07-2010, 07:05 PM
God, I'm nervous, I have no faith in the Sox here

Pablo_Honey
06-07-2010, 07:06 PM
God, I'm nervous, I have no faith in the Sox here
At least we won't be criticzed for making the worst pick in the first round. That honor would go to the D-Backs for drafting Loux. I still can't believe that one.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 07:07 PM
Frankie Piliere:
Hearing Brandon Workman is going next

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 07:07 PM
C'mon Grandal, or either Sale for the Sox!

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 07:08 PM
http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/64868094/applepie_normal.JPG (http://twitter.com/keithlaw) keithlaw (http://twitter.com/keithlaw)
Reds taking Grandal - that's a win half a minute ago (http://twitter.com/keithlaw/status/15665981625) via web

Ditka v. God
06-07-2010, 07:10 PM
That sucks.

KRS1
06-07-2010, 07:10 PM
Damn, really wanted Grandal.

Pablo_Honey
06-07-2010, 07:10 PM
Grandal off the board. Nice pick by Reds there. Aaaaand now here we go!

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 07:10 PM
Nuts.

The Sox have to pick Chris Sale here.

102605
06-07-2010, 07:10 PM
Darn. Nice pick for the Reds.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 07:10 PM
Frankie Piliere:
Chris Sale is going to the Chisox

EMachine10
06-07-2010, 07:12 PM
Frankie Piliere:
Chris Sale is going to the Chisox
I saw this and was going to post it. This would be a big move for the Sox.

KRS1
06-07-2010, 07:13 PM
Frankie Piliere:
Chris Sale is going to the Chisox

Looks like everyone is passing that one around as truth. Very solid pick, but I'm still bummed about Grandal.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 07:14 PM
http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/799878370/harrison_pick_normal.jpg (http://twitter.com/jimcallisBA) jimcallisBA (http://twitter.com/jimcallisBA)
CWS not going cheap either. Taking top guy left on BA board, Chris Sale. #mlbdraft (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23mlbdraft) half a minute ago (http://twitter.com/jimcallisBA/status/15666292128) via UberTwitter (http://ubertwitter.com/)

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 07:15 PM
Awesome pick! Great value White Sox!

This guy is a top 8 talent easily. He likely fell due to the mechanical/injury concerns.

Perfect storm for him to last to 13.

Ditka v. God
06-07-2010, 07:15 PM
Good job! Good pick!

Pablo_Honey
06-07-2010, 07:16 PM
Woot! What a ballsy move by the Sox here! I don't really like his mechanics but his upside is well worth the risk. Maybe, just maybe, this draft will be the proof that we are heading in the right direction.

EMachine10
06-07-2010, 07:18 PM
Hmm, the draft tracker on MLB has the wrong height, and apparently they didn't show him hitting?

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 07:18 PM
Also, for those that heard Harold call Sale a soft thrower, he's completely wrong.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 07:18 PM
http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/799878370/harrison_pick_normal.jpg (http://twitter.com/jimcallisBA) jimcallisBA (http://twitter.com/jimcallisBA)
I like C.Sale a lot. Think he can be good SP, like a little more than Pomeranz. #mlbdraft (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23mlbdraft) less than a minute ago (http://twitter.com/jimcallisBA/status/15666567399) via UberTwitter (http://ubertwitter.com/)

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 07:19 PM
http://a3.twimg.com/profile_images/210170411/ahlogowhitesox_normal.jpg (http://twitter.com/InsideTheSox) InsideTheSox (http://twitter.com/InsideTheSox)
Kenny Williams calls Chris Sale's cell phone. Gets message. Trying his home. #WhiteSox (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23WhiteSox) #MLBDraft (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23MLBDraft) half a minute ago (http://twitter.com/InsideTheSox/status/15666644543) via Twitter for BlackBerry® (http://blackberry.com/twitter)

http://a3.twimg.com/profile_images/210170411/ahlogowhitesox_normal.jpg (http://twitter.com/InsideTheSox) InsideTheSox (http://twitter.com/InsideTheSox)
Kenny connects with Chris. Congratulates him and welcomes him to the #WhiteSox (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23WhiteSox). #MLBDraft (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23MLBDraft) less than 20 seconds ago (http://twitter.com/InsideTheSox/status/15666794861) via Twitter for BlackBerry® (http://blackberry.com/twitter)

EMachine10
06-07-2010, 07:22 PM
Ugh, I was looking at Josh Sale above, my bad.

Coops4Aces
06-07-2010, 07:23 PM
He didn't have his cell? Did we draft a moron?

EMachine10
06-07-2010, 07:24 PM
He didn't have his cell? Did we draft a moron?
Probably getting a lot of calls at this time.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 07:27 PM
J.P. (Chicago): Kevin, how much of a concern is Chris Sale's 3/4 delivery?
Will the Sox have to overhaul his mechanics for him to be a starter?

Kevin Goldstein: Yeah, it's an issue. I don't like low 3/4 guys, but his velo and command are such rarities for a lefty, I'll take it.

Ditka v. God
06-07-2010, 07:27 PM
Texas Rangers...uhhhhh...:scratch:

tm1119
06-07-2010, 07:27 PM
Not sure how I feel about Sale. He seems like a bit of a risk given his frail frame and low arm slot in his delivery. However, he also may have the highest ceiling of the college arms that it seems we were destined to take. Not disappointed in the pick by any means. I would love if we were able to get Seth Blair in the 3rd round or so, both Blair and Sale have very high ceilings and arent extremely far off like most of the HS kids.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 07:31 PM
LOL

*** Cubs?

soltrain21
06-07-2010, 07:32 PM
He didn't have his cell? Did we draft a moron?

Because nobody else would have been calling him at that time. It went to voicemail because he was probably talking to someone else.

Valiant effort on that one, though.

Pablo_Honey
06-07-2010, 07:32 PM
Wow, another joke pick. Hayden who?

Ditka v. God
06-07-2010, 07:32 PM
Ha! That's a total shocker.

Ditka v. God
06-07-2010, 07:33 PM
Wow, another joke pick. Hayden who?

This kid could be something really special, threw a no-hitter last year, put up unreal stats in the last two years. Could be a right-handed Lincecum or a total fluke.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 07:34 PM
http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/64868094/applepie_normal.JPG (http://twitter.com/keithlaw) keithlaw (http://twitter.com/keithlaw)
My phone is blowing up with texts like "are you kidding?" re Cubs half a minute ago (http://twitter.com/keithlaw/status/15667536803) via web

Pablo_Honey
06-07-2010, 07:35 PM
This kid could be something really special, threw a no-hitter last year, put up unreal stats in the last two years. Could be a right-handed Lincecum or a total fluke.
Hmm, maybe. I don't think I've heard his name in any of the mocks I've read. Then again, he's Division 2 so maybe he's underrated.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 07:36 PM
Hmm, maybe. I don't think I've heard his name in any of the mocks I've read. Then again, he's Division 2 so maybe he's underrated.

Frankie Piliere:
There are scouts I am talking to that are baffled so this is not a "the scouting world knew about him" pick

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 07:38 PM
Great pick for Tampa. I love both Sales.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 07:41 PM
J.P. (Chicago): Kevin, was this a signability pick? Should we expect the Cubbies to take a guy with big money demands in the 2nd or 3rd ala Samardzija?

Kevin Goldstein: I don't know what it was. Just totally dying here on that one. Biggest first round shocker since Matt Thornton (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/card/card.php?id=THORNTON19760915A)? Wow, as if the Rays (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/team_audit.php?team=TBA) needed a break here, they get the best high school hitter in the draft at 17. Teams with previous picks with regret this one.

EMachine10
06-07-2010, 07:41 PM
I couldn't find the Cubs pick on BA's top 200.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 07:43 PM
I couldn't find the Cubs pick on BA's top 200.

He isn't

D2 pitcher that most people don't know about. Many scouts simply don't know who the guy is. It's a ridiculously odd pick.

soltrain21
06-07-2010, 07:44 PM
I like that even Cubs fans who are "smart" enough to follow along the draft and understands the ins and outs of it still refer to them as "Cubbies."

EMachine10
06-07-2010, 07:44 PM
He isn't

D2 pitcher that most people don't know about. Many scouts simply don't know who the guy is. It's a ridiculously odd pick.
Jeez, I figured he was just a huge reach - maybe ranked around 100 or something.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 07:45 PM
One wonders if the Angels can/will sign Cowart. He wants to hit, but is likely better off pitching.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 07:47 PM
Jeez, I figured he was just a huge reach - maybe ranked around 100 or something.

One would describe him as a sleeper, but that still doesn't mean you nab him in the 1st. He likely would have been available later. It's just very peculiar.

Also, this comment from a draft chat made me lol:

[Comment From andy andy: ]
from twitter: thedugs OK if you think Hayden Simpson is a sleeper. But the idea behind a sleeper is that you let it sleep awhile, not slap it at 3AM.

Ditka v. God
06-07-2010, 07:47 PM
I couldn't find the Cubs pick on BA's top 200.

He just barely made it on that list, #191.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 07:48 PM
White Sox Buy On Sale (http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/draft/?p=2314)

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 07:49 PM
Adios Folty. :(:

At least we will get to see him pitch against the Cubs.

soltrain21
06-07-2010, 07:49 PM
White Sox Buy On Sale (http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/draft/?p=2314)

And now we get ****ty headlines for years if he pans out. Hooray.

EMachine10
06-07-2010, 07:50 PM
Some fellow named Churchill calls Sale to Sox a reach...:scratch:

http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/blog?name=mlb_draft&id=5262353

Just the number 5 ranked player by BA (Much much much much much more highly regarded when it comes to the draft than ESPN).

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 07:51 PM
Time for Boston to land the uber talent that slips because they have deep pockets.

Edit: Maybe not. Great value for Boston though.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 07:54 PM
Minnesota has to be taking Wimmers or Workman. Supposedly Wimmers was the dream scenario.

Pablo_Honey
06-07-2010, 07:55 PM
Decent pick by the Red Sox. I'd assume they'd convert him back to third base or corner outfields. Unless they have plans to move Pedroia.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 07:58 PM
Dreams do come true for the Twins.

I like Wimmers.

Pablo_Honey
06-07-2010, 07:58 PM
No surprises there. Nice pick by the Twins.

canOcorn
06-07-2010, 08:00 PM
Some fellow named Churchill calls Sale to Sox a reach...:scratch:

http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/blog?name=mlb_draft&id=5262353

Just the number 5 ranked player by BA (Much much much much much more highly regarded when it comes to the draft than ESPN).

Once he said Wimmers or Wojo should have gone before Sale, you can disregard him as being completely full of ****.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 08:01 PM
http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/799878370/harrison_pick_normal.jpg (http://twitter.com/jimcallisBA) jimcallisBA (http://twitter.com/jimcallisBA)
Wimmers fits Twins mold, polished pitcher. Don't underrate his stuff. He's not close to a finesse guy. 1 minute ago (http://twitter.com/jimcallisBA/status/15669092134) via UberTwitter (http://ubertwitter.com/)

____________________

Bolded for emphasis.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 08:01 PM
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Reactions I'm getting to Cubs pick: "Not a priority guy for us" ... "Not in our top 200" ... "Rounds 4-5" (corrected) 1 minute ago (http://twitter.com/keithlaw/status/15669151862) via web

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 08:04 PM
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Laumann on Sale: Pleased he was avail at 13. It came together just today. #WhiteSox (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23WhiteSox) #MLBDraft (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23MLBDraft) half a minute ago (http://twitter.com/InsideTheSox/status/15669377999) via Twitter for BlackBerry® (http://blackberry.com/twitter)

http://a3.twimg.com/profile_images/210170411/ahlogowhitesox_normal.jpg (http://twitter.com/InsideTheSox) InsideTheSox (http://twitter.com/InsideTheSox)
Laumann on Sale: Tall, lanky kid. Likely going to fill out. Jack McDowell/Dan Plesac comps close. #WhiteSox (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23WhiteSox) #MLBDraft (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23MLBDraft) half a minute ago (http://twitter.com/InsideTheSox/status/15669502255) via Twitter for BlackBerry® (http://blackberry.com/twitter)

http://a3.twimg.com/profile_images/210170411/ahlogowhitesox_normal.jpg (http://twitter.com/InsideTheSox) InsideTheSox (http://twitter.com/InsideTheSox)
More Laumann: We are looking at him as a starting pitcher. #WhiteSox (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23WhiteSox) #MLBDraft (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23MLBDraft) 2 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/InsideTheSox/status/15669564540) via Twitter for BlackBerry® (http://blackberry.com/twitter)

http://a3.twimg.com/profile_images/210170411/ahlogowhitesox_normal.jpg (http://twitter.com/InsideTheSox) InsideTheSox (http://twitter.com/InsideTheSox)
Chris Sale on being picked by #WhiteSox (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23WhiteSox): I'm ready to play. I'm a baseball player. That's what I like to do. #WhiteSox (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23WhiteSox) #MLBDraft (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23MLBDraft)

sox1970
06-07-2010, 08:07 PM
I like the Sale pick. Should be interesting to see where Cox and Brentz fall.

canOcorn
06-07-2010, 08:14 PM
http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/799878370/harrison_pick_normal.jpg (http://twitter.com/jimcallisBA) jimcallisBA (http://twitter.com/jimcallisBA)
Wimmers fits Twins mold, polished pitcher. Don't underrate his stuff. He's not close to a finesse guy. 1 minute ago (http://twitter.com/jimcallisBA/status/15669092134) via UberTwitter (http://ubertwitter.com/)

____________________

Bolded for emphasis.

When your plus pitches are curve and change and your fastball that has any movement sits at 88, you're pretty finesse. His fastball that touches 91 or 92 is straight as an arrow.

Edit: And I forgot when you have a max delivery there's not a lot of room for growth.

I see him as high floor, but low ceiling. Soft tossing RH's don't have the greatest track record, but his command and polish fits the Twins system.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 08:18 PM
JonathanMayoB3 (http://twitter.com/JonathanMayoB3)
Zack cox has found a home. He will go 25 to the cards #mlbdraft (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23mlbdraft). half a minute ago (http://twitter.com/JonathanMayoB3/status/15670232866) via OpenBeak (http://www.orangatame.com/products/openbeak/)

________

Open up those wallets.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 08:18 PM
When your plus pitches are curve and change and your fastball that has any movement sits at 88, you're pretty finesse. His fastball that touches 91 or 92 is straight as an arrow.

Edit: And I forgot when you have a max delivery there's not a lot of room for growth.

I see him as high floor, but low ceiling. Soft tossing RH's don't have the greatest track record, but his command and polish fits the Twins system.

I've read in multiple places that he sits 89 to 93, and touches 94.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 08:21 PM
Cox is absolutely not worth Alvarez money, FWIW.

Pablo_Honey
06-07-2010, 08:23 PM
Cox is absolutely not worth Alvarez money, FWIW.
Yeah, his power and defense are quite questionable. His swing looks too highschool-ish to me. We will see whether the Cards will pony up the money or sign him at a realistic price or just let him go.

KRS1
06-07-2010, 08:32 PM
Wow, Darren Daulton looks like he could step in for any of the Jersey Shore cast if any of them go down. Oompa Loompa.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 08:37 PM
Wow.

I wonder if Dodgers can buy him out of the football scholarship at LSU. There is no doubt that baseball is a better future for him.

sox1970
06-07-2010, 08:38 PM
Los Angelees? Really Bud?

Vestigio
06-07-2010, 08:44 PM
How many rounds are going tonight? Is it just the first and supplemental rounds?

EMachine10
06-07-2010, 08:45 PM
How many rounds are going tonight? Is it just the first and supplemental rounds?
Correct

sox1970
06-07-2010, 08:45 PM
How many rounds are going tonight? Is it just the first and supplemental rounds?

Yes, just 50 picks tonight. Rounds 2-30 on Tuesday. 31-50 on Wednesday.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 08:45 PM
Plenty of a big names still available.

Allie, Castellanos, Wilson, Ranaudo, Brentz, O'Connor, Workman, Cole, Wojo

sox1970
06-07-2010, 08:47 PM
Plenty of a big names still available.

Allie, Castellanos, Wilson, Ranaudo, Brentz, O'Connor, Workman, Cole, Wojo

Sounds like signability is playing a huge factor.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 08:49 PM
Sale on the phone.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 08:53 PM
Does the evil empire reach deep and grab a Ranaudo/Wilson/Allie?

They are usually rather conservative in draft spending for some reason.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 08:54 PM
Future Sox - Chris Sale (http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/future-sox/2010/06/white-sox-select-left-handed-pitcher-chris-sale-with-13th-pick.html)

EMachine10
06-07-2010, 08:59 PM
Two plus pitches with an above average 3rd...I like Sale a real lot.

Coops4Aces
06-07-2010, 09:04 PM
Does the evil empire reach deep and grab a Ranaudo/Wilson/Allie?

They are usually rather conservative in draft spending for some reason.

Why spend money on an unproven kid when you can just buy an MLB ace?

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 09:06 PM
Two plus pitches with an above average 3rd...I like Sale a real lot.

It is a great pick. The only knock on the guy is his mechanics and arm slot. People see some injury risk. Who knows if/how the Sox plan on altering anything.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 09:07 PM
Forgot about Kvasnicka. I think Houston could have done better here.

Odd that he was announced as a 3B.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 09:14 PM
I bet Detroit grabs Allie if he lasts that long. They aren't afraid of dumping money into the draft. See Porcello, Turner.

Brian26
06-07-2010, 09:14 PM
I didn't see it posted in the thread. Who was the Sox rep at the podium for the Sale announcement?

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 09:15 PM
I didn't see it posted in the thread. Who was the Sox rep at the podium for the Sale announcement?

Bud Selig.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 09:15 PM
That's unfortunate. **** the Red Sox.

They are getting a haul, as expected.

Vitek, Brentz, Ranaudo.

Coops4Aces
06-07-2010, 09:16 PM
I didn't see it posted in the thread. Who was the Sox rep at the podium for the Sale announcement?

Jared Mitchell is the Sox rep at the draft

EMachine10
06-07-2010, 09:18 PM
Jared Mitchell is the Sox rep at the draft
Yes, however, Selig announces all the picks.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 09:18 PM
Jared Mitchell is the Sox rep at the draft

Michael Huff too. But neither of them announce the picks. Maybe in the 2nd round tomorrow?

sox1970
06-07-2010, 09:18 PM
Yes, however, Selig announces all the picks.

In the first round. The team reps are announcing the comp picks.

EMachine10
06-07-2010, 09:18 PM
Of course the Red Sox get Brentz. Damnit.

EMachine10
06-07-2010, 09:19 PM
In the first round. The team reps are announcing the comp picks.
Ah, thank you for the correction.

Brian26
06-07-2010, 09:19 PM
The reason I ask is because I know Alex Fernandez was the rep two years ago when the Sox picked Beckham. Seems like every team has former players as reps (Alomar, Bagwell, Joyner, etc) right now.

Edit- I see....this is only for the 2nd round now.

sox1970
06-07-2010, 09:19 PM
I think Gene Honda should announce all of the picks.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 09:19 PM
Good pick. Wojo is nice.

russ99
06-07-2010, 09:20 PM
Forgot about Kvasnicka. I think Houston could have done better here.

Odd that he was announced as a 3B.

That's all about signability. They have a lot of picks in the first four rounds and need to augment what little talent they have on the farm.

Delino DeShields Jr. was also a bit of a reach on their first pick, they might have been able to get him at 19, but they really wanted him.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 09:24 PM
Great pick for Detroit. Top 15 talent. Not having a 1st rounder lets them spend on falling talent.

EMachine10
06-07-2010, 09:25 PM
Castellanos to Detroit......

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 09:27 PM
Ugh, if Detroit gets both Castellanos and Allie, I'm going to puke.

canOcorn
06-07-2010, 09:29 PM
I've read in multiple places that he sits 89 to 93, and touches 94.

He was nowhere near that during his April starts against Northwestern and Indiana. And he'd have been drafted well before 21 if he had that FB with his change and curve.

I know he sat at 87-89 last year and was a slight tick above that when I saw those April starts. Maybe he amped it up for a start after his injury.

I guess we'll know soon enough. He'll probably be Brad Radke part deux.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 09:29 PM
Not a bad pick by Detroit. Relieved it wasn't Allie.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 09:34 PM
Another good pick. I love Jenkins.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 09:34 PM
Day 1 Results:

Round 1:

1 Washington Nationals - Bryce Harper, C
2 Pittsburgh Pirates - Jameson Taillon, RHP
3 Baltimore Orioles - Manny Machado, SS
4 Kansas City Royals - Christian Colon, SS
5 Cleveland Indians - Drew Pomeranz, LHP
6 Arizona Diamondbacks - Barrett Loux, RHP
7 New York Mets - Matt Harvey, RHP
8 Houston Astros - Delino DeShields Jr., 2B
9 San Diego Padres - Karsten Whitson, RHP
10 Oakland Athletics - Michael Choice, OF
11 Toronto Blue Jays - Deck McGuire, RHP
12 Cincinnati Reds - Yasmano Grandal, C
13 Chicago White Sox - Chris Sale, LHP
14 Milwaukee Brewers - Dylan Covey, RHP
15 Texas Rangers - Jake Skole, OF
16 Chicago Cubs - Hayden Simpson, RHP
17 Tampa Bay Rays - Josh Sale, OF
18 Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim - Kaleb Cowart, 3B
19 Houston Astros - Mike Foltynewick, RHP
20 Boston Red Sox - Kolbrin Vitek, 2B
21 Minnesota Twins - Alex Wimmers, RHP
22 Texas Rangers - Kellin Deglan, C
23 Florida Marlins - Christian Yelich, OF
24 San Francisco Giants - Gary Brown, OF
25 St. Louis Cardinals - Zack Cox, 3B
26 Colorado Rockies - Kyle Parker, OF
27 Philadelphia Phillies - Jesse Biddle, LHP
28 Los Angeles Dodgers - Zach Lee, RHP
29 Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim - Cam Bedrosian, RHP
30 Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim - Chevy Clarke, OF
31 Tampa Bay Rays - Justin O'Conner, C
32 New York Yankees - Cito Culver, SS


Supplemental First-Round:

33 Houston Astros - Michael Kvasnicka, 3B
34 Toronto Blue Jays - Aaron Sanchez, RHP
35 Atlanta Braves - Matthew Lipka, SS
36 Boston Red Sox - Bryce Brentz, OF
37 Los Angeles Angels - Taylor Lindsey, SS
38 Toronto Blue Jays - Noah Syndergaard, RHP
39 Boston Red Sox - Anthony Ranuado, RHP
40 Los Angeles Angels - Ryan Bolden, OF
41 Toronto Blue Jays - Asher Wojciechowski, RHP
42 Tampa Bay Rays - Drew Vettleson, OF
43 Seattle Mariners - Taijuan Walker, RHP
44 Detroit Tigers - Nick Castellanos, 3B
45 Texas Rangers - Luke Jackson, RHP
46 St. Louis Cardinals - Seth Blair, RHP
47 Colorado Rockies - Peter Tago, RHP
48 Detroit Tigers - Chance Ruffin, RHP
49 Texas Rangers - Mike Olt, 3B
50 St. Louis Cardinals - Tyrell Jenkins, RHP

sox1970
06-07-2010, 09:41 PM
Any chance Allie is there at 63?

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 09:48 PM
Any chance Allie is there at 63?

It's possible. I'm surprised he lasted past the supplemental round. His demands must be crazy.

Coops4Aces
06-07-2010, 09:53 PM
It's possible. I'm surprised he lasted past the supplemental round. His demands must be crazy.

How do these kids get away with making demands like they do?

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 09:57 PM
How do these kids get away with making demands like they do?

Leverage and the existence of teams that aren't afraid to spend money.

Tragg
06-07-2010, 10:13 PM
How the heck do the Angels score 5 first round picks??? Losing Figgins? What a first-rate organization the Angels are.

And Tampa - who'd they lose in free agency to warrant themselves several?

That's got to be part of our minor league woes...not working the system and getting all of these picks.

doublem23
06-07-2010, 10:21 PM
How the heck do the Angels score 5 first round picks??? And Tampa - who'd they lose in free agency to warrant themselves several?

That's got to be part of our minor league woes...not working the system and getting all of these picks.

The Angels lost 2 Type A Free Agents this off-season, Figgins & Lackey, both of whom netted them the 1st round pick of the team they signed with, Seattle and Boston, plus a pick each in the Sandwich Round.

The Rays would have had the 17th overall pick based on last year's standings. They acquired the 31st pick in the 1st round when LeVon Washington, their 1st round selection in 2009 didn't sign. Their Sandwich Round pick came because they lost Type B Free Agent Gregg Zaun to the Brewers this offseason.

Tragg
06-07-2010, 10:40 PM
The Angels lost 2 Type A Free Agents this off-season, Figgins & Lackey, both of whom netted them the 1st round pick of the team they signed with, Seattle and Boston, plus a pick each in the Sandwich Round.

The Rays would have had the 17th overall pick based on last year's standings. They acquired the 31st pick in the 1st round when LeVon Washington, their 1st round selection in 2009 didn't sign. Their Sandwich Round pick came because they lost Type B Free Agent Gregg Zaun to the Brewers this offseason.
Thanks
I forgot about Lackey. I didn't realize you get such a high pick for a type B.

SoxSpeed22
06-07-2010, 10:46 PM
Thanks
I forgot about Lackey. I didn't realize you get such a high pick for a type B.Which brings up something. If the Sox can't get much for guys like Paulie, Putz, Jenks and AJ, would it be better to keep those guys, let them walk and get the picks? Resigning Paulie for 2 more years would also work, but just speculating.

DirtySox
06-07-2010, 10:50 PM
Which brings up something. If the Sox can't get much for guys like Paulie, Putz, Jenks and AJ, would it be better to keep those guys, let them walk and get the picks? Resigning Paulie for 2 more years would also work, but just speculating.

There is a lengthy discussion on that topic in this thread (http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=120763&page=3) starting on page 3.

doublem23
06-07-2010, 10:58 PM
Which brings up something. If the Sox can't get much for guys like Paulie, Putz, Jenks and AJ, would it be better to keep those guys, let them walk and get the picks? Resigning Paulie for 2 more years would also work, but just speculating.

To get compensation picks for an FA, they have to be offered and decline salary arbitration (not 100% sure how that process works, but I think at least, you're on the hook for a 1-year-deal that cannot be worth less than 80% of the salary he was just making). That's the caveat, to earn these extra picks, you have to run the risk of these guys believing they can do better on the open market, and considering how unfriendly free agency has been to some vets the last few years, it's debatable whether or not the Sox would offer arbitration to Konerko or AJ. Jenks, on the other hand, is not eligible to be a free agent until after the 2011 season. If he's not traded, the only way he doesn't come back next year is if the Sox don't even tender him a contract which, of course, does not earn you compensation draft picks.

Jeff B
06-07-2010, 11:34 PM
FutureSox prospect profile on Chris Sale:
http://bit.ly/9yRyzd

Really pleased with the pick. When guys like Loux started going top 10 you knew someone good would drop to the Sox. I had Chris Sale top 5 on my draft board with Grandal at 7 and McGuire at 8.

Now hopefully they can get the job done on day 2. I like Workman as a possibility if he drops. Bryan Harper (Bryce's brother) is one I know the Sox like so watch out for him in the 4-7 round range.

Jeff B
06-08-2010, 12:00 AM
Baseball America's best available players list:
15. Stetson Allie, rhp, St. Edward HS, Lakewood, Ohio
20. Brandon Workman, rhp, Texas
23. Brett Eibner, rhp/of, Arkansas
25. A.J. Cole, rhp, Oviedo (Fla.) HS
28. Austin Wilson, of, Harvard-Westlake School, Studio City, Calif.
31. Ryan LaMarre, of, Michigan
33. Chad Bettis, rhp, Texas Tech
35. Yordy Cabrera, ss/rhp, Lakeland (Fla.) HS
37. Jedd Gyorko, ss, West Virginia
38. Ryne Stanek, rhp, Blue Valley HS, Stilwell, Kan.
45. A.J. Vanegas, rhp, Redwood Christian HS, San Lorenzo, Calif.
46. Garin Cecchini, 3b, Barbe HS, Lake Charles, La.
47. James Paxton, lhp, Grand Prairie (American Assoc.)
48. Sammy Solis, lhp, San Diego
50. Jesse Hahn, rhp, Virginia Tech

DirtySox
06-08-2010, 12:12 AM
Realistic options I like in the 2nd - 3rd round:

Workman, Eibner, Yordy, Eldemire, Golden, Bettis, Stanek, Solis, Smelter, and Cisco.

Hitmen77
06-08-2010, 08:32 AM
How the heck do the Angels score 5 first round picks??? Losing Figgins? What a first-rate organization the Angels are.

And Tampa - who'd they lose in free agency to warrant themselves several?

That's got to be part of our minor league woes...not working the system and getting all of these picks.

To get compensation picks for an FA, they have to be offered and decline salary arbitration (not 100% sure how that process works, but I think at least, you're on the hook for a 1-year-deal that cannot be worth less than 80% of the salary he was just making). That's the caveat, to earn these extra picks, you have to run the risk of these guys believing they can do better on the open market, and considering how unfriendly free agency has been to some vets the last few years, it's debatable whether or not the Sox would offer arbitration to Konerko or AJ. Jenks, on the other hand, is not eligible to be a free agent until after the 2011 season. If he's not traded, the only way he doesn't come back next year is if the Sox don't even tender him a contract which, of course, does not earn you compensation draft picks.

Does anyone have a list of Type A and Type B free agents that the Sox declined to offer arbitration to (and thus pass on supplemental draft picks) since Magglio?

Did we offer arbitration to Cabrerra?

doublem23
06-08-2010, 08:40 AM
Does anyone have a list of Type A and Type B free agents that the Sox declined to offer arbitration to (and thus pass on supplemental draft picks) since Magglio?

Did we offer arbitration to Cabrerra?

We did. Orlando signed with the A's who held the 13th pick of the 1st Round. Teams do not forfeit the Top 15 overall picks for FA Compensation, so the Sox received an extra pick in the Sandwich Round (#38 used to take C Josh Phegley) and then the A's pick in the 2nd Round (#61 overall used to select Trayce Thompson).

DirtySox
06-08-2010, 09:32 AM
Interestingly, many sources are noting that the White Sox would have nabbed Grandal if the Reds hadn't taken him. They would have had to shell out some overslot dough for sure with him. Hopefully that money can be allocated to some premium players that are available in the coming rounds.

DirtySox
06-08-2010, 09:37 AM
Some day 1 draft notes:

http://www.mlbbonusbaby.com/2010/6/8/1506763/day-1-thoughts

Another BPA list:

http://www.mlbbonusbaby.com/2010/6/8/1506771/best-players-availble-for-day-two

DirtySox
06-08-2010, 10:21 AM
http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/19750912/kgotto_normal.jpg (http://twitter.com/Kevin_Goldstein) Kevin_Goldstein (http://twitter.com/Kevin_Goldstein)
Sources indicate that Stetson Allie's price tag is $3 million 6 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/Kevin_Goldstein/status/15712938664) via TweetDeck (http://www.tweetdeck.com/)

Randar68
06-08-2010, 10:38 AM
you're on the hook for a 1-year-deal that cannot be worth less than 80% of the salary he was just making

This rule does not apply to full free agent eligible veterans. It only applies to SAE players between 3 and 6 years of service time or "super 2" players.

Randar68
06-08-2010, 10:41 AM
They are usually rather conservative in draft spending for some reason.

Not always. They are notorious for taking guys like Austin Jackson and then giving them big out-of-line money.

DirtySox
06-08-2010, 10:53 AM
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Day 2 of the #mlbdraft (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23mlbdraft) will start with the Nationals taking USD lefty Sammy Solis. 3 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/JonathanMayoB3/status/15714947554) via OpenBeak (http://www.orangatame.com/products/openbeak/)

:(:

tm1119
06-08-2010, 11:12 AM
I would love to see us grab a HS pitcher AJ Cole if he falls to 13. Not sure of his signability, but he projects as a top of the rotation of starter and isnt as raw as most HS pitchers.

http://pnrscouting.com/scoutingreports_2010_coleaj.html

DirtySox
06-08-2010, 11:14 AM
Allie to the Pirates!

Good work Pitt.

DirtySox
06-08-2010, 11:15 AM
I would love to see us grab a HS pitcher AJ Cole if he falls to 13. Not sure of his signability, but he projects as a top of the rotation of starter and isnt as raw as most HS pitchers.

http://pnrscouting.com/scoutingreports_2010_coleaj.html

Not an easy sign at all. Wants a bunch of money.

DirtySox
06-08-2010, 11:15 AM
Damn, Eibner gone too.

DirtySox
06-08-2010, 11:20 AM
Red Sox continue with a fantastic draft by selecting Workman.

EMachine10
06-08-2010, 11:20 AM
Workman to Boston, damnit.

Sockinchisox
06-08-2010, 11:20 AM
There goes Workman.

DirtySox
06-08-2010, 11:20 AM
http://a1.twimg.com/profile_images/19750912/kgotto_normal.jpg (http://twitter.com/Kevin_Goldstein) Kevin_Goldstein (http://twitter.com/Kevin_Goldstein)
If the #Pirates (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23Pirates) sign Allie, this has the POTENTIAL to be a franchise-changing two days. half a minute ago (http://twitter.com/Kevin_Goldstein/status/15716477911) via TweetDeck (http://www.tweetdeck.com/)

tm1119
06-08-2010, 11:22 AM
There goes Workman.

Kinda glad he just went. He seem like the safe college arm we would usually go for. I've seen a couple of videos and read a bunch about him(since a lot of people had us looking at him in the 1st), and it doesnt seem like hes anything special.

DirtySox
06-08-2010, 11:23 AM
Yordy to the A's.

DirtySox
06-08-2010, 11:24 AM
Kinda glad he just went. He seem like the safe college arm we would usually go for. I've seen a couple of videos and read a bunch about him(since a lot of people had us looking at him in the 1st), and it doesnt seem like hes anything special.

Many scouts see him as middle of the rotation potential. There is a chance he ends up in the bullpen if he can't get his mechanics in check.

tm1119
06-08-2010, 11:25 AM
Not an easy sign at all. Wants a bunch of money.

Ehh, trade AJ and someone else and use the money saved to sign a kid like this. These are the kind of picks we are going to have to make if we want to turn this around quickly. Drafting safe, easy signs is what has left our farm system bare for the past 5 years.

Randar68
06-08-2010, 11:25 AM
Jacoby Jones please?

Sox on the clock...

DirtySox
06-08-2010, 11:25 AM
Ehh, trade AJ and someone else and use the money saved to sign a kid like this. These are the kind of picks we are going to have to make if we want to turn this around quickly. Drafting safe, easy signs is what has left our farm system bare for the past 5 years.

Indeed.

Just not realistic based on the track record.

DirtySox
06-08-2010, 11:26 AM
Jacob Petricka.

Power arm.

EMachine10
06-08-2010, 11:26 AM
Petrieka - hard thrower without much effort

Randar68
06-08-2010, 11:26 AM
Petricka? ugh...

DirtySox
06-08-2010, 11:27 AM
I don't mind the pick.

Domeshot17
06-08-2010, 11:27 AM
Just bought a new house, no internet til friday, was thrilled to see our first round. Great Steal and great job taking the best talent and not the safe pick. Would love to see AJ Cole here, those 2 would jump to the top 2 or 3 arms in our farm immediately (with Hudson).

DirtySox
06-08-2010, 11:28 AM
Reggie Golden.

Good pick for the Cubs.

Randar68
06-08-2010, 11:30 AM
I don't mind the pick.

College senior with good velocity, little movement, and underdeveloped secondary pitches. Seems typical for this organization. :(:

Domeshot17
06-08-2010, 11:31 AM
And back to Business As Usual in Round 2. Why do we draft hard throwers who weak secondary stuff that needs to be developed when we can't develop it? He is Poreda without the movement on the fastball aka Andrew Sisco

tm1119
06-08-2010, 11:31 AM
Put Petricka in the bullpen from day 1 if you ask me. Work on just 1 secondary pitch (his curve, which from what i read is pretty bad at this point), and tell him to throw as hard as he can for 1 or 2 innings a game. Probably the best chance he has at being successful. Would most likely speed up his development as well.

DirtySox
06-08-2010, 11:32 AM
There goes Sweeney's little brother.

sox1970
06-08-2010, 11:32 AM
Ryan Sweeney's brother just got drafted by Toronto at 69.

Fungo
06-08-2010, 11:33 AM
Reggie Golden.

Good pick for the Cubs.Very good pick. Great athlete

DirtySox
06-08-2010, 11:34 AM
Petricka has been draft-eligible four times already, out of high school, twice out of junior college (although he didn’t pitch in 2007 after Tommy John surgery), and last year as a red-shirt sophomore, when the Yankees took him in the 34th round.


He started hitting 96-97 repeatedly as a starter in the middle of the spring, and a few weeks ago his power curveball, which started the year as a below-average pitch, became sharper and tighter and had some scouts calling it an average pitch, although the pitch still comes and goes a little. His history of throwing 90% fastballs earned him a Brad Holt comparison from one cross-checker I spoke to.


Despite his ability to hold his velocity late into games there’s still a good chance Petricka ends up as a power reliever due to the inconsistent second pitch and fringy command.




Number 37 on Law's board, 40 on BA's.

DirtySox
06-08-2010, 11:35 AM
I like Buckel alot.

DirtySox
06-08-2010, 11:38 AM
FS on Petricka:

http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/future-sox/2010/06/white-sox-select-rhp-jacob-petricka-with-the-63rd-pick.html

Domeshot17
06-08-2010, 11:38 AM
I like Swaggerty, solid reliever, should be up quick

DirtySox
06-08-2010, 11:38 AM
Bettis was one of my favorites. Good pick for the Rocks.

tm1119
06-08-2010, 11:40 AM
Im going to go out on a limb and sat the Jays take AJ Cole with their next pick.

edit: never mind. wrong. didnt think he had any chance of falling this far.

DirtySox
06-08-2010, 11:46 AM
I wonder if Hague goes back to school. He was a mid 1st round candidate at the start of the season.

tm1119
06-08-2010, 11:49 AM
So whos next? Any ideas?

Randar68
06-08-2010, 11:49 AM
Teams must be scared off by Jacoby Jones's LSU commitment to still be on the board.

DirtySox
06-08-2010, 11:50 AM
Teams must be scared off by Jacoby Jones's LSU commitment to still be on the board.

And Boras.

Would love him picked though.

Randar68
06-08-2010, 11:57 AM
So whos next? Any ideas?

I am going to say HS player...

Then a college player with the compensation pick... HS players have been pretty under-drafted so far, IMO

Randar68
06-08-2010, 11:57 AM
And Boras.

Would love him picked though.

Gotcha. Did not realize that was who was representing him. Would still be interested in making a run at him though at 3rd rnd pick.

Sockinchisox
06-08-2010, 11:57 AM
Addison Reed.

DirtySox
06-08-2010, 11:57 AM
White Sox select Addison Reed.

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?topic_id=8080130&content_id=7334895

cws05champ
06-08-2010, 11:58 AM
3rd Round White Sox select:

Addison Reed RHP San Diego State

Randar68
06-08-2010, 11:58 AM
Addison Reed from SDSU in the 3rd round.

Rockabilly
06-08-2010, 11:59 AM
Reed is a great pick for the Sox..

Maybe our future closer someday

Randar68
06-08-2010, 12:01 PM
Will be interesting to see if the Sox see him as a reliever or starter. His slider can be a bit flat. Interesting prospect. I like him better than Petricka, although his ceiling probably isn't as high. I like his build, though. Might be a future closer candidate.

cws05champ
06-08-2010, 12:02 PM
Reed led the nation in saves in 2009, but converted to starter this year. He went 8-1, 2.07 with 77 strikeouts and 10 walks in 65 innings. Opponents were hitting .197 against Reed.
> 91-92 mph fastball that can peak at 93-94. Moves pitches around the strike zone—in, out, up, down. Effective two-plane curveball. Slider was effective as a closer but flattened out as a starter.

83rd rated prospect according to BA.

DirtySox
06-08-2010, 12:02 PM
There goes Stanek. Another favorite of mine.