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vinny
05-24-2010, 04:21 PM
Probably not a surprise to many.

Six of our "regulars" have an OPS+ of less than 101:
TCQ
Beckham
Teahen
Pierre
AJ
Ramirez

http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/6298

Rohan
05-24-2010, 07:14 PM
Good thing 4 of the 6 players listed there are starting to hit.

TheCommander
05-24-2010, 10:29 PM
Thanks for the good news.

eriqjaffe
05-25-2010, 09:27 AM
Probably not a surprise to many.

Six of our "regulars" have an OPS+ of less than 101:
TCQ
Beckham
Teahen
Pierre
AJ
Ramirez

http://www.baseball-reference.com/blog/archives/6298Mark Kotsay has more starts at DH than anybody else, so he's kind of a regular there, and his OPS+ is a paltry 70.

russ99
05-25-2010, 09:43 AM
Mark Kotsay has more starts at DH than anybody else, so he's kind of a regular there, and his OPS+ is a paltry 70.

Another meaningless stat. Besides, aren't we being punished even more with this due to the park-adjusted part? If the rest of the league is hitting well at the Cell and we're not, that's a double-whammy with OPS+

I'd be curious to see the same numbers with regular OPS or better yet something like runs created, which takes the homer-weighted "P" aspect out.

Someone like Juan Pierre is never going to have a 100 OPS+, in any ballpark. Look at all the leadoff and #2 hitters on that list.

vinny
05-25-2010, 11:23 AM
Another meaningless stat. Besides, aren't we being punished even more with this due to the park-adjusted part? If the rest of the league is hitting well at the Cell and we're not, that's a double-whammy with OPS+

I'd be curious to see the same numbers with regular OPS or better yet something like runs created, which takes the homer-weighted "P" aspect out.

Someone like Juan Pierre is never going to have a 100 OPS+, in any ballpark. Look at all the leadoff and #2 hitters on that list.

Runs created to-date and OPS, 2010:
TCQ - 17, .703
Beckham - 13, .548
Teahen - 14, .706
Pierre - 18, .610
AJ - 11, .597
Ramirez - 12, .622

Rios and Konerko have 33, .943 and 32, .963, respectively.

If you run a query on teams with "everyday players" (approx 100 PAs so far) and less than 15 runs created, the Sox have 4 players that match (only Cleveland and Seattle are worse with 5 matches). Run the query on OPS less than .725 and we are the worst in the majors with 6 (listed above).

But again, this isn't really telling us anything we don't know: our hitting has more or less sucked this season, although it's getting better.